9/11 Johnstown Air Traffic 9/11

[beckyperigo]

The plane existed, it flew over my house and was extremely loud and low. I was at the crash site that evening and saw the hole. Locals at Indian Lake Marina saw paper raining down from the sky BEFORE the plane crashed. I really believe it was shot down and a lot of people from the area do as well.

[4vermont]

Why were they told to evacuate the Tower? By Who? What would that do?

Total BS

[brokenstyx]

hey - thanks for the add

so johnstown air traffic control was evacuated?!

[WakeUpZombies74]

ROBERT MEDARIOS

[WakeUpZombies74]

BERTHA CHAMPAGNE

[WakeUpZombies74]

APRIL GALLUP

[WakeUpZombies74]

APRIL GALLUP

[WakeUpZombies74]

I lived there 2 no plane! Look man wake up type in smoking gun fraud flight 93 Google earth that same hole 5 years prior same hole !!!!o but the passports survied there 2 LOL

[beadarop]

Get the facts straight. I also live in Johnstown and was involved with the incidents on 9/11 as a police officer.

Everything was happening so quick and there was mis-communications between county 911 centers. After the FAA grounded all planes there were reports that there was a planes coming into Johnstown airport with bombs on board. All businesses where evacuated and the local SWAT team (NOT THE FBI) took up positions on buildings. Bomb dogs where brought in searched all planes

[davutz]

Funny thing is I live in Johnstown PA, and theirs a Lowes right near the airport my dad works at.

Well on 9/11 i remember my dad said that lowes was evacuated by the FBI and snipers were on the roof of lowes, i guess because of the closeness of flight 93. Kinda made me wonder tho.

[cheer11princess]

So I suggest you make sure everything is alright with your soul, because tommorrow is not promised.

SgtSpline,

This is where FAITH comes in handy.

And BTW Mr Spline, i just happen to be 14. Yet it seems i have ALOT more sense than some of you.

[SgtSpline]

Cheer11princess,

Thanks for your replies. My mistake about college, I read "Nonaya Business Acedemy" and thought you were at a college you wished to remain unnamed. And please, do not think that I was attacking your faith. I believe in Jesus too. I was merely pointing out, that if our faith is basically supported from a few hundred pages of an ancient book, then surely, you might concede to opening your mind to examine the mounds of evidence supporting a conspiracy for 9/11.

[SgtSpline]

I know that your faith and mine are both more complicated than whatthe Bible says alone as well, so don't get me wrong there either... just examine and think about what I've actually said.

As for you being 14, I applaud your interest in the events of that day. At least half of your life span has been been effected by 9/11, and less than a quarter of mine. It is a fair statement to say however, that the rest of both of our lives will continue to be effected by it in one way or another.

[SgtSpline]

For that reason alone, we should be eager to make sure that all we've been told is the actual truth of the matter. There is a great deal of research that has been done in this regard. Furthermore, I can assure you that proving the story of 9/11 one way or the other would be far easier than proving the existence of God.

I hope you will consider what I've written, and turn over a few stones in looking for the truth of that day. Best wishes to you for a bright future.

Sgt. Spline

[cheer11princess]

oh okay.

=)

[cheer11princess]

And the funny thing about it is, that I am not perfect at all. I sin everyday. I say things I shouldnt say and i do things I shouldn't do, yet he still loves me. And when you die, you will have to come face to face with God and give an account of your life and your actions. And if you haven't admitted to God that you are a sinner, and that you believe that He died on the cross for YOU, then He will say 'I'm sorry. I never knew you.' and you will spend the rest of eternity in hell.

[cheer11princess]

And I believe in Jesus because I know he is real. I know that he loves me and I have personally experienced His love and grace. And it is a very beautiful thing. God has blessed me with so much, and He is so real. And I know that He watches over me every day.

[cheer11princess]

Actually, SgtSpline,

Many things in the Bible have been proven true.

For example the red sea crossing. Archaeologists have gone back and there is evidence that a large amount of people had once crossed it. There are also many egyptian artifacts, such as chariot wheels and different parts, that just "happen to be there". And on the tops of the HIGHEST MOUNTAINS IN THE WORLD, there are sea shells and fish fossils that just "happen to be there."

[emg140]

I believe that while everyone has the right to express themselves freely, there are individuals who should self police their own voice. this chain of comments proves that.

"it is better to be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt" - unknown.

Apparently common courtesy has joined common sense as virtues that are really no longer common.

[drcrook9584]

OMG how stuiped can some of these ppl be? theres no plan wreckage or bodies....not one single drop of blood...no shit....why dont you dumbass make a trip down here and we will show you ourselfs.....that plan was soo damn low u could see the fucking windows...if you hate america soo much y dont u become a sand nigger so our armed forces can blow ur fucking head off

[GreatHakuProductions]

Dumbass. Yeah, right, you could see windows of a 530mph plane. Perp. Fake witness alert

[kmljtown]

omg that person that said about there parents livin there i was at school at the time the plane flew right over my school it was so loud it crashes 15miles from were i was

[Trackside1234]

nrty1 said

"where are the engines where is the tail and a 20ft crater crap the world terrorist is the american administration liars and murders of their own people in the name off oil" ______________________________­___________

Do you have any conception what happens when an airliner hits the ground at 500 mph? You are so blinded with your "hate America" craziness that you have no clue about physics and the laws of nature. The engines and the tail disintegrated.

[donnya2217]

Well, i hate to tell you but one of the engines WAS found in a lake 15 miles away from the crash site...i saw it with my own two eyes. My opinion...it was hot down. Just an opinion no one says you have to agree.

[Trackside1234]

You need to step away from the crack pipe. There was no engine found in any lake. Show me a link to a news article about an engine in a lake and I will believe it.

[niatnuoms2007]

There WAS a crater, as well as eye witnesses that saw the plane nosedive. Do you think the average person is lying or part of a government conspiracy? Don't be stupid, people!

My parents live in Johnstown and heard the jet fly over their house at a very low altitude, which was something that never happened in that area prior to that day. The Johnstown airport is a small commuter airport, so jets of that size are never heard flying in that area.

[niatnuoms2007]

Also, I have a friend who was part of the search and rescue team. They DID recover bone fragments at the disaster site. The largest bone fragments were only the size of a fist. The plane nosedived into the ground at such a high speed that it instantly smashed to smithereens and Flight 93 exploded on impact.

How dense do some of you conspiracy theorists want to claim to be?

[niatnuoms2007]

Finally, you cannot apply logic to 9-11 conspiracy theories. 9-11 conspiracy theorists tried to claim that no debris of the plane that hit the Pentagon could be found to support their theory that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missle. This, despite the fact that dozens, if not hundreds, of pictures of airline debris exist, as well as eye witness accounts which conspiracy theorists completely ignore.

[NblracerN37]

that was very frightning

[vocalyouth]

I live in Johnstown, PA and I heard the plane, very loudly overhead from the classroom I was in at the time and was freaking out because of what had just happened. I remember telling my classmates "holy shit, I just heard a plane right outside!". About 15 minutes later the news reports that a plane went down near Shanksville, which is about 20 miles south of town. It had to be Flight 93.

[nrty1]

where are the engines where is the tail and a 20ft crater crap the world terrorist is the american administration liars and murders of their own people in the name off oil

[rushfan9thcmd]

so as a witness, you saw it at tree top levels. It had come down from the higher altitude. are you suggesting that after you witnessed the plane it went back up to several thousand feet and then nose dived and disappeared??? at 500 mph do you suppose it made an arc back up and then nose dived?...since there are no skid marks, it could only go straight down into the location. I am still wondering how debris got several miles away and why CNN never replays that footage......

[truthunveiled]

PLEASE, view "Loose Change." How could a 757 NOT be seen on radar 15 miles away. Believe the air controllers. Next, review this video repeatedly and tell me if you have ever since footage of a plane wreck with NOTHING THERE. You've listened to lies so long, it's hard to see the very very obvious. There is NO plane wreckage or bodies. The Shanksville county morticianer said her never saw one single drop of blood. He says there were no bodies.

[cheer11princess]

hmm.

let me say this as simple as possible.

plane go down.

plane go down fast.

plane blow up.

fire come from plane.

bodies do not survive boom boom and fire fire.

genius.

and we shouldnt be arguing over this! these poor people died! and we're disrespecting their memory.

and if it is a conspiracy, then what happened to flight 93, or the missing people, or the pilot, and the freakin recordings from the plane. and the people from the plane called their families, and left messages.

[SgtSpline]

Cheer11princess,

Thank you for your comment. I noticed on your own YouTube profile you stated that JESUS!!! is one of your hobbies/interests. That is great, because you will be familiar with His admonishment, that we should seek the truth. You'll also be familiar with the saying, "The Truth Shall set you Free".

You are undoubtedly a bright girl in college, so I know you have critical thinking skills. Follow along with me on a few points that the video makes, and then draw some conclusions.

[SgtSpline]

1st: The reporter says the small aircraft control tower got word just before the plane went down, that it was going to crash, and that they needed to evacuate the tower. The ATC states that it was odd that they could not see any planes of that size 15 miles out, which was unusual.

-A: Do you think it is odd that these men got a call BEFORE the crash, when a crash at such a remote location should have been as "unforseeable" as a crash into the Trade Towers or Pentagon? Doesn't seem plausible.

[SgtSpline]

-B: Do you think it odd that these men would be told to evacuate their tower, when they in fact should have had one of the best vantage points in the area to WITNESS the events. Do you think the authorities actually considered the Johnstown ATC Tower a target within minutes of their clarevoyant act of forseeing the plane crash would happen, and were merely concerned for those three or four guys safety?

-C: The ATC said he and others ignored the warning and stayed behind to see the plane.

[SgtSpline]

-C: (Con't) He specifically says that is unusual that they would not have been able to see the plane- and he is a man trained to spot airplanes.

To answer your post further, we are not arguing. You viewed a clip that I posted, and made a comment, which is exactly what I want people to do. I am not disrespecting the memory of the passengers on that flight. To the contrary, I am trying to honor them by investigating the truth and reality of that days events.

[SgtSpline]

Cheer11princess,

I'm not asking you to take my word for it. There is plenty of data that is available for study.

It has been gleaned from tens of thousands of hours re-watching the tens of hundreds of hours of video footage, news reports, special editions, and print media saved by concerned citizens. It has been sought and found in physical evidence by scientists. It has been uncovered by architects and engineers. It has been spoken of by eyewitnesses.

Please look for those sources too.

[SgtSpline]

And finally Cheer11princess,

If you are willing to believe in Jesus, even though nothing exists of His time here, other than the writings of a few men who knew Him, and many who DID NOT, then perhaps, it should not be so difficult to consider these mounds of evidence pointing to a conspiracy of people and events that day. Perhaps, you might even find that lending credence to a great deal of the proffered information is not that difficult if you actually think about it for a few moments.

[SgtSpline]

Our world is collapsing around us, and wrapping your endorsement of official events in a cutesy regurgitation isn't going to get us to the underlying truth.

You asked me if there was a conspiracy, then what happened to Flight 93 and the people. I don't know for sure. What does your imagination say might have happened to them, if in fact, we were to ever conclusively prove to all's satisfaction that it was a conspiracy?

This is where that critical thinking comes in handy.

Sgt. Spline

[rushfan9thcmd]

interesting that the debris field is several miles across, especially the CNN report of the debris field 6 miles away. That is a great video report that seems to never get discussed. Darrin Kagan spoke to the reporter live. By the way, just how much altitude and speed does it take for a plane to disappear into the ground? It couldn't have been very high, witness reports state it was flying low...

[rushfan9thcmd]

interesting that it could nose dive from just tree top level and disappear completely into a hole..well kind of a hole...by the way..just how far is the crash site from Iron Mountain where they have the 93 wreckage now??

[bossmantd]

im an air trafic controller, and a B757 is easy to spot when 15 miles out, a globalhawk however would be invisible at that distance. period.

[leftwaffe]

When an aircraft is at its normal flight altitude, what you say is true. However, with the altitude Flight 93 was flying at and the terrain involved, it is not unreasonable to assume that you have to be within a mile or two inorder to have a visual on Flight 93. Remember, these guys were trying to avoid detection.

[RISENANDSHIZEN]

FREEMASONS

[mdeasy]

Got word from who??? About What??? Who told them to evacuate the tower??? For what reason??? An experienced ATC says "at 15 miles out it is quite unusual that we couldn't see an aircraft that size." All of this is worth investigating. Also, I suggest to anyone that cares, ignore the rude, ignorant and inflamatory posts. Their tone confirms their ignorance. Peace...marshall

[loewenm]

Please do not waste time on conspiracy theories. You embarass youselves.

[rushfan9thcmd]

Now thats funny! the official story about some guy in a cave half a world away directing 19 guys with boxcutters to outwit the best defense system in the world is the most rediculous theory of all!!

[paulasm5]

You have a better idea or clue yourself buddy?

[loewenm]

Yes. That terrorists hi-jacked planes and flew them into the towers, buddy.

[Fiireball]

thats sad.... u notice the 911 stands for 911 police, 911, september (9th month) 11 (date, 911, the first crash happened at 9:11AM and 911, came out in crosses after the crash. SOOO sad! ;[

[rushfan9thcmd]

LMAO...of all places to see this video..FOX NEWS. They constantly ridicule anyone that says anything about the official story. Who had such a handle on the situation to call the traffic control tower to warn that a plane was coming down? ....The Gov't knew a plane was headed to the Pentagon(Mineta), someone knew that this plane was coming down(FOX NEWS), Old Buddy RUDY G. was told the towers were coming down(ABC NEWS).

[xpluto999]

93 was obviously meant to hit wtc7. When the hero passengers on board thwarted the plan, our government shot the flight down and brought down wtc7 with controlled demolitions

[twisted2006]

aw really? I would of aimed for something bigger, like...the statue of lib

[xpluto999]

I'm just sayin it makes sense . . . if it was an inside job . . . everything was all set but when 93 never showed up they had to blame wtc7 on debris from the towers. (And yeah, the statue of liberty would have been a hell of a target!)

[911REICHSTAG]

93 WAS SHOT DOWN

[genghis6199]

not true . there would be wreckage. 93 did not end up in shanksville

[bigjstokes]

He couldn't see the plane. Where's the government cover-up?

[SgtSpline]

Don't you find it strange that the single most likely group of people in the immediate area that should be able to witness what is taking place in the skies above them were told to evacuate their tiny little outpost? I find it reasonably suspicious considering all of the other "suspect information" that surrounds the day's events.

[bigjstokes]

Here's all the "suspect information" one needs: UBL is the leading suspect for the attacks. I love how conspiracists ignore likelyhoods and probabilities. They try to tell me that it is inconveivable for a small group of jihadists to conspire to attack us, and that it is much more reasonable to believe our own government did it - based on stuff like this? Gimme a break!

[SgtSpline]

Don't mistake looking for the truth as equaling forgiveness for UBL and his band. I would still like to see him brought to justice. Furthermore, while it is not inconceivable that a small group of jihadists perpetrated these crimes on their own, the body of "suspect information" that says otherwise is to great for all but the most stubborn of ostriches to ignore.

[bigjstokes]

On the contrary, I find the case against our government unconvincing, and in all likelihood a wild goose chase. We can at least agree on good bird analogies.

[4duos]

Great post. Heard your call on Alex Jones.

[k4n3]

hmm interesting video. I found out about this video from listening to the Alex Jones show today. Take care man :)