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  • Monckton lectures a professor in academic protocol when the idiot doesn't even cite a source on one slide. He then pontificates about dishonesty in Abraham's methods, which involved contacting the authors of articles that Monckton used, selectively and out of context, to justify himself. Monckton rows back from the strident rabble-rousing when his utterances are subjected to scientific scrutiny.

  • Monckton is a bought monkey with the added advantage that the associated politics with this issue is in line with his own.

  • whats the difference between Monckton and a cow? one seem to produce a finite amount of crap while the other one doesn't.

  • Monckton, you made it pretty clear what you thought of the professor, unless you typically use the phrase "an overcooked prawn" as a term of endearment.

  • Monckton sure demands courtesy when he's not to good at giving it himself. As for snide, I'll concede he's probably good at remarking it because he's mastered it himself.

  • @MrLettuceguy His lies, misrepresentations and hypocricies do.

  • @WaddyMuters So does Al Gore and the IPCC but anyway. If you don't like him or don't trust him check out Piers Corbyn at Weather Action.com. He is a meteorologist and astrophysicist who does not believe in man made global warming. He predicts the weather by observing the sun and his forecasts are ridiculously accurate. He gets it right something like 88 or 89 percent of the time, which is something mainstream weather forecasters could not get even close to!

  • @MrLettuceguy 1.) Did I say anything about Al Gore or my opinion on his statements? 2.) Show me the exact instancces where the IPCC lies, misrepresentens and is hypocritical. 3.) Why should I care about a meteorologist/astrophysicists opinion? This is about the climate, not the weather. Show me his papers on the subject of climate change and I might care. 1.)Strawman 2.)Lie 3.)Redherring

  • @WaddyMuters You know that measuring climate by models is not the most accurate way to observe climate change, the numbers can be easily twisted and manipulated to get a point across when in fact it is not reality. It is better to observe actual evidence and most of the IPCC's findings are from models which should raise some questions. Btw Piers Corbyn is very knowledgable on the subject. And so u know most of the people on the warmist side aren't climate change scientists either.

  • @MrLettuceguy 1.) It isn't? Show me the source for that claim. 2.) Doesn't matter all the majority of "climate" scientists agree that global warming is happening and is linked to mankinds co² output. Who cares if some people who aren't climate scientists agree. It's not about the opinion of some random dude. It's about scientific consensus.

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  • Check out Piers Corbyn Weather Action.com

  • AGW supporters like the United Nations, National Governments, and NGO's are outspending critics at a ratio of $3500 to $1.

    And, are still losing the battle for the minds of intelligent people, because they are dishonest, and just plain WRONG.

  • What an egomaniac. Abraham's presentation was in no way a personal attack. Monckton can believe so if he wishes, like how he believes he's a man of science, but at the end of the day it doesn't change the fact he's a compulsive liar.

  • @WaddyMuters your the fool, this is Sacha Baron Cohen in disguise

  • @evspatsfan22 I certainly have egg on my face now.

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  • @WaddyMuters How is stating his opinion that Abraham is a "climate extremist", yet asking people to make up their own minds, hypocritical? BTW, what is a "hypocethies"? He did list his sources. Did you not watch the video?

  • @jackplant1952 "How is stating his opinion that Abraham is a "climate extremist", yet asking people to make up their own minds, hypocritical?"

    Refering to a respected scientist as something as redicules as a "climate extremist" shows that he really doesn't want to have a honest conversation, from which people should make up there own mind.

    It's a OBVIOUS hypocrisy.

    His opponent holds the majorty opinion so why is he reffering to him as a extremist? Because Moncktons intetion is to influence.

  • It's worrying that people can't see Monckton for the charlatan that he is.

  • This guy is a hoot. He seems to think that the validity of a scientific hypothesis rests on broad public support. He also seems to think he's a member of the House of Lords. But here's what the House of Lords says:

    "You are not and have never been a member of the House of Lords. Your assertion that you are a member, but without the right to sit or vote, is a contradiction in terms."

    As has been shown, his understanding of climate science is equally muddled.

  • @WaddyMuters Its his opinion that Abraham is an extremist, hes allowed to have an opinion, that in no way conflicts with his statement about people making up their own mind, you show a lack of logical thought and so YOU'RE the fool.

  • "The normal way in academia."

    Hahaha.

    What papers have you submitted for peer review, "Mr. Science?"

  • what a clown, first of all he is outright lying that its normal to notify people of a academic rebuttal, and sounds like a whiny child. Second of all, ANGRY? are you F-ing joking? Abrahams rebuttal is so blazee that I almost fell asleep and I very interesting in this topic. SELLOUT CRACKPOT. I hope your mother weeps for how you turned out, you pathetic disservice of a human being.

  • Good speaker; many turkey comments in relation to scientific content. Lets get on with action eg increase renewables - even when tobacco and oil funding aids some of the denial approach - which wants to delay or prevent such action.

  • @WaddyMuters

    Lord Monckton supremely states the correct rules of academic debate. Abraham IS a climate extremist. I feel that you are terrified of Monckton. You should be. He reveals your AGW religion to be false.

    Peace

  • @GhenisCanne LOL you denialists are a joke.

  • @Drgamedood

    My ...did the good Lord Monckton strike a nerve?

  • @GhenisCanne ROFL. omg not u again. go suck monckton's dick.

  • @Drgamedood

    Oh? Freudian slip?

  • Abraham is a joke!

  • Abraham angry? I have never heard a less angry person in all my life.

  • I cannot believe people actually thumbed this up. Fact is, Monckton DID make many mistakes, he deluded people with false information, he is facing legal actions because many scientists he stated or cited, do not acknowledge the fact that he give statements out of context and manipulates data in a way that it seems to go to his favour. Why do people press like on a video that is made by a person that is full of lies. He is a politician not a scientist, he does not stand on any giant's shoulder.

  • Are you going to listen to a Lord that changes his arguments and tackles against climate change according to his audience (scientific audience, he pretends to be scientific, normal people he even never gives any scientific reference, he tackles this issue with politics and verbal attacks, not facts). Or are you going to listen to a Professor that knows stuff, tries to bring across the truth and won't try to talk his way out of his mess. Monckton isn't scientific, he does not admit his mistakes.

  • He pretends to be this top scientist that rightfully stands out of the rest. However, Dr. Abraham does not need to pretend. He knows how to cite your work properly, he knows much about the principals involved in climate change and so on. He clearly provided evidence that Monckton misinterpreted the works of others. There are other presentations and even documentaries that show Moncktons reactions, when his work is debunked and it seems that he always tries to talk himself a way out of it.

  • Scientists have been out there collecting data, trying to get their head around on how to collect the data, getting funds, publishing, getting peer-reviewed etc. And along comes Monckton, this arrogant want to be scientist, and tells us, thy are all lying, all those scientists are wrong. When, in fact, he is the person who has misinterpreted lots of data sets. He made this issue politic instead of scientific. I have never heard of such a courtesy, he never published anything, how could he know?

  • Monckton poisoning the well right at the beginning? Ad hominems and projections of his own lack of honesty? Weak.

  • Haha, Monkton is a fucking moron!! I've watched the whole Abraham's presentation. To call him angry is mind-numbingly moronic. The guy couldn't speak more softly and simply presents evidence. Doesn't this halfwit realize that people can go and check what he says???

  • Wait dickhead, why didn't you just provide the necessary citations in the first place!

  • ugh. can't take this disingenuous jerk. oooooooooh everyone who rebuts his errors needs to send advance notice?! wtf?

    in academic rebutals? CM has NO expertise in the field!

  • Shamless liar Monckton! The world would be a better place without you!

  • "all the endless funding..." - by ExxonMobil and Chevron?

  • I disagree completely. The rebuttal was not angry, I was impressed at how he kept his cool. Besides Monckton's presentation should stand on is own. And his point was that the viewers Monckton is misrepresenting to will have difficulty verifying. (which it seems to rely on)

  • Monckton, you butthurt fool, you are not part of academia in any way so why would you require inter-academic treatment? Do you think your "lord" title makes it so? Afraid not. and why do you repeat the lie that you are a member of the house of lords? you've lied about your credentials before as exposed by potholer54, and you keep doing it you dishonest scumbag. If you want academic respect you have to put forward something worthwile, quote mining does not constitute academic work.

  • @Paxmax It also struck me to wonder whether Monckton has ever bothered to contact all those he has called liars to allow them to respond and correct. :)

  • CFACT, funded by Exxon and Chevron. My derp meter exploded.

  • Well that is laughable, you have described the professors presentation as angry and the professor as an extremist and you say you are not going to get personal. I look forward to seeing how you explain away misquoting people even when it has been pointed out to you that they did not make those statements.

  • It may be a rule in the world of acadimia, BUT your not a scientist young Monckton, the very claim that you are disgusts me.....

  • Monkton is an Idiot with a title.

  • He didn't tell you that you were going to be debunked? OH NOES! and he was angry! That makes Monckton cry :'(

  • All of you people are deliberately ignorant. Monckton is a paid liar.

  • Haha, If Monckton is your best guy you deniers are really in trouble. He has been exposed as a liar and a fraud, not just on climate change, and someone who is PAID BY BIG OIL AND BIG MINING and right-wing think tanks to protect their interests.

  • Thanks professor Abraham for an outstanding and careful presentation. King Monckton is a complete charlatan. The only people who take him seriously are those who have already made up their minds that gravity is a big hoax.

  • I knew Kit at college. Most of us guessed that one day he would do something as dumb as gambling his house away.

    But Kit always knew that anybody can look smart as long as he hangs around folk dumber than he is.

  • Which conflicts have been caused by climate change?

    Which of them did Al Gore prevent or work towards the solution to?

    He is working towards stopping hypothetical wars by showing hypothetical polar bears (that aren't going extinct) floating on shrinking icebergs, and he gets to live a lifestyle he wants to deny 99.999% of the world because he's so very important.

    This is very relevant to his efforts towards enacting legislation and regulation that effect the lives of everyone else.

  • @worldofdraculas Darfur.

  • @worldofdraculas Somalia

  • Oh, and I go to the University of St. Thomas

  • This is just so unbecoming for an english lord... Serving up Bull**** to basement dwelling conspiracy theorists like some common waiter in order to help his greedy, ungrateful masters to destroy the planet. I wonder what his daddy would think of him were he alive today... Poor Christopher. =(

  • @AmbientSmiley So I am a basement dwelling conspiracy theorist then, funny how I don't live in a basement or believe in any other conspiracies...

  • @xxusspwngxx But you do believe in this one! ;)

  • @AmbientSmiley What is that supposed to mean? I think you believe in the money making conspiracy of man made global warming? I said that in my post tard. get out of your mom's basement.

  • @xxusspwngxx Its supposed to mean you are a conspiracy theorist. But let me be less confrontational. Let me ask you something. How are these scientists supposed to be making money off of saying they are sure about the science? I don't understand this, so please explain it to me! ;)

  • @AmbientSmiley You don't think they get paid for posting their articles in the paper, etc.? What about Al Gore? I think one million dollars for an award he didn't deserve is pretty good money. (By the way he took a private jet to receive that award so you do the math and tell me how much CO2 he pumped into the air to receive an award that he won for telling people not to put more CO2 into the air...

  • @xxusspwngxx Fine. But attacking the characters of scientists and Al Gore is not a scientific refutation. Awarding Al Gore and the IPCC the nobel peace prize is about raising awareness about an effort to mitigate violent conflict in the world. The reason why I attacked conspiracy theorists in my original post is that to fake an entire scientific field is about as hard as breaking the laws of physics themselves. I think you should read some of the science for yourself. Cheers.

  • @AmbientSmiley You think I just blindly follow the overall less popular side to climate change? I have done the research and I made an informed decision as to which side I wish to support. I never stated that the entire thing was faked, I just believe that it is being hyped out of control and that they are mistaken on cause and effect relationships.

  • @AmbientSmiley Also, check the Nobel Prizes official website. Al Gore won his prize for raising awareness on man made global warming, not "raising awareness about an effort to mitigate violent conflict in the world".

  • @xxusspwngxx Yes because the nobel committee as stated recognizes the connection between climate change and conflict. Read a little further on their website and you'll realise that is why the PEACE PRIZE was awarded to Al Gore and the IPCC. Just the way you might want to read a little further on the science. This less "popular" side? Well, I dunno what it has to do with popularity. Popularity being what most people think, science isn't about what most people think. Its about what's correct. ;)

  • @AmbientSmiley Popularity is the one of the only reasons that someone would support something that they haven't actually read into themselves. I was just illustrating the fact that if I hadn't looked into the science I would be most likely to support the more popular side. And regardless of the connections made between climate change and conflict, Al Gore still won the award for his efforts to raise awareness on man made global warming, and it doesn't change the fact that he owns a private plane

  • @xxusspwngxx I can't answer for everyone concerned with climate change. Some are into it because they understand the science. Some are into it because they might consider scientists trustworthy. And even some are into it because its the pop thing to do these days. The nobel prize committee awarded Gore because of climate change's connection to conflict. -Fact... And refuting his character does not refute the science you propose to know so well.

  • @AmbientSmiley I don't care why he got the award, it doesn't change the fact that he is a hypocrite. I never tried to say that because he was a hypocrite that the science wasn't right, I just feel like there are differing interpretations on the actual science and we have to do our own research and make our own opinions, I feel that the majority of data out there does not support man made climate change.

  • @AmbientSmiley Also enough with the condescending statements and winky faces, it doesn't make you look clever or witty or whatever you are trying to accomplish with it, it just makes you look like a pretentious snob

  • @xxusspwngxx Pretentious snob my ass. I'm trying to keep a civil tone with you, because you came off calling me a tard that needs to get out of him mom's basement. I'm giving you the smileys to try and show you some good will. But you keep coming back to these personal attacks. I dunno what mine, Al Gore's or scientist's characters and personalities have to do with everything. Stop getting so goddamn personal all the time. Go to Potholer54 and Greenman3610's channels and away from Monckton.

  • @AmbientSmiley Your original comment was in a civil tone? Calling all of us "basement dwelling conspiracy theorists?" either way I apologize for my insulting comment, I was angry at someone on Monckton's second video acting like his insults were making him sound better than me. Regardless of the reason it was still out of line.

  • @xxusspwngxx "Basement dwelling conspiracy theorists" wasn't aimed at you. I refer to his interviews with conspiracy theorists like We Are Change and Glenn Beck. -But the insult is aimed at Monckton, who I think should be dragged by his feet to the Hague, to stand trial for crimes against humanity. Al Gore is a hypocrite, but I don't agree on "our own research". Trust scientists and Peer review. I trust them for Gravity and Evolution. I don't trust Monckton to sit the right way on a toilet seat.

  • @AmbientSmiley I honestly don't believe in Evolution and something like Gravity you don't need to see research to believe unless you are talking about the theory behind how it works. Both sides have scientists supporting their scientific claims. What crimes are you speaking of when you say he should stand trial? What has he done for people to believe that he is basically the devil?

  • @xxusspwngxx Because of what he has done to you, and thousands like you: "Both sides have scientists supporting their scientific claims.", "there are differing interpretations on the actual science", "it is being hyped out of control and that they are mistaken on cause and effect relationships.", "they get paid for posting their articles in the paper, etc." -These are all examples of the bull**** he serves and the worlds eco systems will be his victims. I'm really sorry I have to be so blunt.

  • @AmbientSmiley Because he has presented us with data and his own interpretation of this data? And for doing what countless number of scientists have done for years he deserves to be labeled a criminal? Its funny how people would have reacted the same way as you when the first scientist suggested that the earth was not the center of the universe.

  • @xxusspwngxx Go see Ambrahams refutation of Moncktons slide shows. See greenman3610 and potholer54s videos on monckton, and perhaps take some courses on the climate system? :) Monckton is not a scientist. He's not even the science advisor to Thatcher that he poses to be. He's a misinformer who presents you with false data and misinterprets the science. Do more to educate yourself on this! This is it for this debate for me. I've enjoyed it, and thanks, and good luck with your studies. Cheers! ;)

  • @AmbientSmiley Just for your information, I have watched Monckton's original speech, I watched Abraham's refute, and now I have watched Monckton's response. I am currently attending the University of St. Thomas where I have heard him and colleagues speak on Climate Change, don't try to act like I am not educated on this topic. I have also enjoyed the debate, good luck with whatever endeavors you may choose to undertake in your future.

  • Monckton got Punckton'ed by Abraham and now he's trying to play nice....

    Poor baby, wasn't told that he wasn't going to be held up to scrutiny.

    I can hardly wait for his next presentation.

  • He's being much nicer than he was in his written rebuttal.  After whining about Abraham being part of a "Backward Bible College, his rebuttal sums up his argument this way: 1). He took an elemental energy equation (Stefan-Boltzman equation), and couldn't see how it relates it to AGW.

    2). He stood by his false assertion that Al Gore was at odds with IPCC's finding on sea level rise.

    3). He attributes a graph to an "algebraic mean" of several data sets (which all showed warming.

  • Such a competant speaker

  • Excellent.

  • Global Warming is the new Political Correctness..any Nation which is found in breach of their allotted Carbon Emissions will have to pay reparations..not sure who they'll have to pay it to tho. Bankers..the FedRes?!!

  • "We" have to wonder about all those scientists that Lord Monckton himself rebutted in his presentation... Did he give them the warning he so desperately needed from Dr Abraham? "We" somehow doubt it.

  • Tried to watch this but found myself shouting 'come on, come on'. I don't care about his fragile ego and his stunning double standards (I am getting very sure Monckton is a psychopath) just get on with it Monckton. In fact if you look up 'pretentious prick - you'll see a picture of Monckton. And if they make progress in medicine there may one day be a an operation to remove a grossly swollen ego and Monckton can the have the operation and stop working to kill the planet.

  • @StunnedByStupidity

    it wasn't his fragil ego, it was, he was talking with published scientists.

    when you do that, you have to speak "scientist". they don't understand common words.

  • @charleskafka Please dont defend this nasty man. He has nothing but contempt for your intelligence or your families future. If Monckton really wanted to debate he would publish in peer reviewed journals - he doesn't because he can't - he is as mad as a hatter...I would love to have him checked for psychopathy. Look, global warming is real, man made and going to be WAY worse than you believe - BILLIONS of peoples lives are at stake!

  • @StunnedByStupidity Do you understand why nobody cares about answer this...?

  • @StunnedByStupidity Apparently you really are stunned by stupidity if you believe in man made global warming.

  • Lord Monckton: expert debater, expert liar.

  • the audio is bad on several parts of this: it's a left side only stereo recording

  • that was a waste of 9 minutes, no alleged mistakes so far, just putting Abraham down.

  • Monckton doesn't mention here Abraham's very first slide (concerning Monckton's presentation) that shows that a quote Monckton and others attributed to former IPCC head John Houghton, "Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen," was actually completely made up. How's that for

    2:25: "giving him a chance to see what you're saying about him so he can comment"

    4:30: "examples of dubious and dishonest techniques"

    7:50 "essentially a personal attack on me"

    Follow your own rules Lord Monckton.

  • @DeadlyV1RU5 You are right. The correct quote is "If we want a good environmental policy in the future, we'll have to have a disaster." (Sir John Houghton to writer Frances Welch, The Sunday Telegraph (UK), September 10, 1995).

  • Ha!...What a BUFFOON! Professional Ass-hat, Monckton was proved to be a liar. A perpetrator of misinformation. He got caught using wrong data, ignoring data and just flatly making things up.

    Again, BUFFOON!

  • @TheWad1959 Proved to be a liar wrong,show the proof.perpetrator of misinformation wrong again bozo.He got caught using wrong data.yet again u r wrong.You are just plain wrong.The smear campaign against Monckton has failed just as it failed against Lindzen,Ball and all the other truth speakers that are a threat to the fraud.which is dangerous manmade climate change.There is one born every minute.

  • @ezeeskank, Monckton in no way debunked the points that Abraham made in disputing Monckton half-assed attempt at science. Monckton is a showman...a carney of the most dishonest order.

    Abraham's take down was clean, well documented and details. Monckton=Fail=Liar.

  • Don't believe in these gravy train so-called scientists, they are peddling you a load of BS. Abraham is just another good-for-nothing, lucrative endeavor searching, scam scientist. Well done Monckton for putting him back in Elementary school!

  • @valleyshadows of course, but lashing into him is nothing but counterproductive

  • @valleyshadows check out the moncton bunktum series here on youtube, done by a potholer54 or somthing like that... well worth the time

  • @Lindholmer5k Yes, seen that good-for-nothing, too.

  • @valleyshadows Yeah another one of those stupid published respected scientists put back in his place by somebody who has published in.......er.......well.

    Waaiittt a minute.

  • @myjizzureye "stupid published respected scientists" Why would you respect a stupid scientist? Try to make sense before making stupid comments son...

  • @valleyshadows Publicly displaying an inability to decipher sarcasm in an attempt to put me down that's backfired into a whirlwind of self ownage could be deemed as making "stupid comments" by some.

    Seriously have another go, its like watching a down syndrome child trying to pickup an oiled peanut with a pair of chopsticks.

  • @myjizzureye Your lame sarcasm was quite easily deciphered by I. Me choosing to throw it back at you and you not being able to decipher that I had decipher yours would leave you to be considered stupid by all. Regarding the rest of your comment, it is not even worth a reply especially since it is making a mockery of a child with a terrible disease. How sad it is you have no compassion...

  • @valleyshadows I am sorry but I don't speak backward simpleton. Its like watching a drunk walk blindfolded in a yard filled with rakes.

    " deciphered by I. Me choosing to throw it"

    How is it possible for somebody to type that, actually read it, and then go hmm hmmm yes that seems like a coherent and logical response.

    Its like you have taken the English language, tied it over a barrel, and then called in a circus elephant to just climb on and ram its cock all the way up its ass.

  • @myjizzureye It was perfectly coherent son, so there is no need to childishly pretend it wasn't to try to weasel your way out of it. Resorting to "it's like" quotes is terribly imaginative, yet is completely irrelevant and meaningless, not to mention totally vulgar. Quotes like that only continue to show off your undoubted stupidity...

  • @valleyshadows No it shows my originality, humor and cutting wit, all of which you lack.

    You're bland and stupid, both of which could be forgiven if it was not for the fact that you're also an intolerable bore.

    Your only redeeming characteristically is you continue to walk face first into a whirlwind of self ownage leaving me to just sit back and watch.

    I am unsure what exactly what you think is going on here but I am glad you are clueless to it for the rest of us to enjoy (^.o)

  • @myjizzureye "my originality, humor and cutting wit" LOL, all of what you said previous was copy and pasted from elsewhere. Very lame, no originality, completely vulgar, and complete mockery nonsense. You ought to be ashamed of yourself son.

  • @valleyshadows Copy and pasted? Do a google search and find it for me dickhead.

    That is the height of arrogance......and incredulity.

    Seriously are you so far up your own ass that when you get owned in a comment section your only plausible explanation is that the other guy is copy and pasting and not that you are a bland humorless uncreative fucktard?

    Do a google search for anything I have said.......

    I suppose I should take it as a compliment but still....holy fuck you are arrogant.

  • @myjizzureye You could never own me son. The only thing you own is a complete vulgar, smutty, and crude sense of humor that you should never confuse for anything other. Your stupidity continues to shine through and is obvious to all...

  • @valleyshadows Well the only thing you own is your penis while looking over your collection of mens muscle monthy mags.

    Away with you now you bore me.....

  • @myjizzureye Given up now have you son? I guess it must have dawned on you what a sad, vulgar, lonely, smutty, characterless twat you are, not to mention utterly stupid...

  • @valleyshadows No I just don't want to be seen as to be picking the low hanging fruit by the wider community.

    I don't attack people incapable of defending themselves.

    Also you project wwaayyy to much and just parrot the same stuff so not a lot more to be said.

    If you don't believe me (I doubt your arrogance will let you accept that you're a boring repetitive unimaginative twat) scroll back through your last few posts and count how many times you say the exact same thing.

    Dull.....

  • @myjizzureye I'm afraid repetition is the only answer for ppl such as yourself with such obvious learning difficulties. Please do not try to blame others for your own failings son. I would suggest you stick to picking the low hanging fruit as I can never really see a mentally retarded individual such as yourself ever being able to take to a ladder.

  • @valleyshadows This is gold, all people need do is look at our posts then look at the time stamps :)

    The best part is you have no clue whats just happened here hehehe.

  • @myjizzureye Shame to see you surrender son. I thought you might put up more of a challenge. What a nonsense you are...

  • @valleyshadows Cool story bro (^.o)

  • @myjizzureye Cat got your tongue? Or have you gone completely belly up? Strange for somebody with such a big dirty vulgar mouth to just dither away like that....

  • @valleyshadows Cool story bro

  • @valleyshadows You do know Monckton claims to have cured aids, MS and cancer right.....

  • And your scientific self correcting system can take many years to find it's mistakes.

    That's been shown over and over again particularly in mainstream medicine with results that were fatal to many. This is the same. What it would be fatal to is human freedom crushed in the hands of a few elitists.

  • @ancestralblue Funny how that "scientific correction system" has given you pretty much everything you take for granted in your daily life. That computer you're working on right now is a product of the scientific process.

    The "mistakes" related to climate change were worked out long ago. This has been an accepted theory for over 100 years.

  • @robhoneycutt Well there's good science and then there's science that's corrupted by elite customers. As I told you...a study had 45%of them admitting that they slanted studies in favor of who pays them.Those scientists are willing to look the otherway on just about anything that would interfere with their income...just like you.

    You ignore what undermines the "agenda" like Agenda 21 and HAARP. You prefer to go with the limited explanation hiding the full picture.

  • @ancestralblue You keep referring to this study but you never provide a source.

    There is no agenda in the science other than to understand what is going on.

  • @robhoneycutt Deny whatever you like.That seems to be your MO. That study regarding scientists who admitted that they slanted studies (45% of them) was published in Ode Magazine.

  • @ancestralblue well, id rather say that it would be fatal to humanity if, infact the science is right, and monckton is wrong... the matrialistic price is cheap compared to the end of humanity....

  • @Lindholmer5k If...that's the issue. It's been proven that the case being built was built on a lie. That lie was constructed to facilitate World Government set to be imposed in Copenhagen. But just prior we had "climategate" that proved that the research had been massaged. The whole thing was a farce. I agree that pollution and industry needs curbs. MOST CERTAINLY...but not this stuff where they wanted to enslave the common man through taxes for this.

  • This man is dangerous. And sick.

  • @SingSingSE

    so, you have money invested in the total enslavement of everyone?

    don't worry, you investments are probably safe.

  • Fact is that science is a priesthood that excommunicates those who go against the grain. And up to 45% of all scientists have admitted that they slant studies in favor of who funds them. It's an "inconvenient truth" that the global warming movement was about the move toward world communism and that won't be happening.

  • @ancestralblue Wow! You guys have been so duped by the fossil fuel industry that you can't even see what's in front of your faces.

  • @robhoneycutt The ones who have been duped are those who haven't examined geoengineering,HAARP and chemtrailing (there's the global warming) and the reasons behind it all. It's called World Government and Agenda 21 proposed by the same banking interests who own just about everything.Global warming was the vehicle into a communist world government and the total mind control and slavery of all of the common man.They count on you to swallow the bait. It works with many...as we can see.

  • @ancestralblue You forgot to throw Bigfoot in there somewhere. Bigfoot is a Marxist, you know.

  • @robhoneycutt Well I guess that's your best response. Truly pathetic!

  • @ancestralblue You obviously can not see the absurdity of your own statements.

  • @robhoneycutt No he isn't

  • @ancestralblue You are trying to tell me that a bank basically owns the world?

  • @robhoneycutt you are wasting your time trying to debate with these people. The science is stacking up against them day by day. Lord Monckton is looking more and more the clown that he is. Even some denialist bloggers are revising their views in the light of the overwhelming evidence.

    The right want to make this a political battle, but it's not, and disinformation can only keep going for so long in the face of real evidence.

  • @MezclaCasual Actually, I don't think it's a waste of time. I will definitely never convince the people I'm arguing with. That's a given. But there are thousands of other people who read these comments. That is the audience I'm writing for. Maybe a few of those will end up taking the time to read some of the scientific literature and make a rational determination on this issue rather than thinking this is some crazy Marxist takeover of the world.

  • @robhoneycutt It's obvious that you are a paid blogger who's there to further the "agenda". You haven't read the history or the plan and you're perfectly willing to sell humanity out for a paycheck. The "new world order" is a plan for a communist world government riding on the back of "global warming" as their vehicle and the absurdity is yours.

  • @ancestralblue Crap. I wish someone would pay me for all the time I spend on this issue.

  • @robhoneycutt Yeah..."all the time that you spend" is in the pentagon budget. Google pentagon hires bloggers. A study in Ode magazine stated that 45% of all scientists slant studies in favor of those who pay them and with the reality that the Pentagon IS paying bloggers to further the agenda by attacking any opposition, it's very clear that people like you play that part. And for the NWO...watch the video of Henry Kissinger saying that he thought Obama would bring in the NWO.

  • @ancestralblue Dude. I do this on my own nickel because I have two small children and a care about the world that this generation is bequeathing to them.

  • @robhoneycutt It's good that you care about your children and thus you would not want them turned into slaves, would you? Is there an issue with pollution? You bet there i! But, it's not about global warming. It's more about poisoned water and desecrated land. That's what needs to stop. Not putting the same old system in control of the situation that they created to gain wealth and power over the masses and then letting them be at the helm. No...no way!

  • @robhoneycutt I'm glad you decided that the best world for your children to grow up in is one of massive debt crippling our economy and possibly pushing the whole country into poverty

  • @robhoneycutt And research Agenda 21 the UN plan. I really find it amazing that the people believing the "global warming" story don't ven look a the the proponents of the notion like Al Gore ( thousand dollar a month electric bill, rides around in a hummer and a private jet) and Bill Gates ( the top of the line for living the high life) and yet they would like the rest of humanity to live like slaves.

  • @ancestralblue You conspiracy wonks are a hoot.

  • @robhoneycutt Your insults won't aid your cause. Anyone can look this info up and the longer the conversation goes on...the more they'll be able to research. So keep going! Tonight after my work is done ( I do work everyday and don't just man a post shooting at the opposition as you apparently do) we'll discuss the IMF, the Fed and whose behind it all. This can be real FUN!

  • @ancestralblue Look, I've seen all this stuff from a handful of you conspiracy theory guys. You literally get yourselves so twisted up in your own rage that you can't see straight. I don't have enough patience to watch your self destruction.

    How about we stick to science, seeing as that's what the Monckton videos here are referring to?

  • @robhoneycutt I'd say that "twisted in your own rage" is reflected in one who waits around to attack all opposition. And science with an agenda behind it ALWAYS corrupt,( ie. scientists from the WHO declaring a swine flu pandemic when in fact swine flu was milder than any of the previous strains. The declaration was proven to be nothing more than hype to further pandemic futures on the stock market.) If anyone is self destructing...it's you lackeys. The internet is your undoing.

  • @ancestralblue Do you have a list of conspiracies you go off of, or do you just make these up ad hoc?

  • @robhoneycutt Google all of those subjects or are you afraid to look? Aaahhh...I think you'll just deny! Denial ain't just a river in Egypt ya' know! I will say...you really are FUN! Bet you think that everything you see in the mainstream news is backed by truth. Doesn't really matter anyway. The "agenda" is failing badly and it will continue to do so.

  • @ancestralblue Not afraid to look. My patience for crackpot BS is just very small.

    Show me something in peer reviewed literature and I'll spend time on it.

  • @robhoneycutt So's your patience for the wider truth. It all sounds like BS when you don't want to know. As far as "peer review" that's all BS if they're all working for the same people. The pharmaceutical industry has peer review up the wazoo,but, bottomline...none of that is about having a healthy population...It's about profit margins.