TF2 Tactics: Cart / Cap Point Speed

[Schokitafel]

not all cap points need the same time to be capped

[blues03]

Watching those bots all shoot at the same point in spawn was oddly awesome.

[zan6669]

You should have started off @ 0:54

[SupaNeo7]

Isn't it nice to see the capture icons on the HUD working properly? Those were the days.

[ammarmalik2007]

insanely informative. thanks!

[pleasurecrew05]

What up with that music???

[BulletToothTon]

Why is it that certain points cap slower or faster than others, i.e. The final point on Steel as compared to the final point on Well?

[Boviking]

3:16

"I think that was TOO FAST to see anything..."

*Obligatorily that's what she said joke here*

[botindeldiablo]

mm I got a question, I realice that every cp is diferent like the last point in Gravelpit and the last point in Egypt so plz can you find some info???

[Megarith123]

you rule!!

[twicecandyfilms]

You missed 3, like others said.

In SDK Hammer there are only 3 speeds for the cart which means the optimal speed is actually 3 people, not 4.

[christianmalazarte]

yeah didnt you see i posted a correction?

[Dunkapotimus]

what if three people?

[MQnoob]

probably around 60% faster

[MrK4rel]

Can u tell me what commands u use to make the bots do the same that u do ?

[SSBMFAITE]

@MrK4rel bot_mimic [0/1]

[Pspimp]

Do this once again but with Scouts.

[kilorat]

Most pl maps have this in the entities, so you can get absolutely correct numbers. Its a percentage of "startspeed".

Goldrush for example has a startspeed of 90, and this is the logic for how many people are pushing it:

OnCase01" "minecart_tracktrain,SetSpeedD­irAccel,0,0,-1"

"OnCase02" "minecart_tracktrain,SetSpeedD­irAccel,0.55,0,-1"

"OnCase03" "minecart_tracktrain,SetSpeedD­irAccel,0.77,0,-1"

"OnCase04" "minecart_tracktrain,SetSpeedD­irAccel,1.0,0,-1"

[FIAlex93]

very helpful thanks

[LordLastDay]

Nice, I never even knew that there was a limit.

[Rafagafanhotobra]

Wow, finally videos with tactics that are really useful for newbies, without that "Duh, shoot at the ground with Rocket and you will be...spawncamping!!!"

[slodice]

This is wrong. The cart reaches its full speed when 3 players are pushing it. Valve confirmed it, its on tf2 wiki

[christianmalazarte]

lol no offense, do your own tests and then come here and say if its still wrong :)

[4RT1LL3RY]

It is a valid statement, you didn't test 3 players. You only tested 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, and 8. So you could be missing an important point of data.

[shinkosai]

it is kinda odd how he missed out both 3 and 7 players x.x

[christianmalazarte]

lol i will have to retest it..

[christianmalazarte]

k the video will be up today, you wer right the limit is 3 players. credit given, ty :)

[PycckuuBouH]

These limits are set by a mapper.

[TigerSlashX]

what is the music?

[DeltaOneAirsoft]

nice intro. after effects ftw :D

[KingKool2099]

OK, this is awesome. Makes me look like a hillbilly with a calculator. This is real science here! The Engy would be proud!

[EJLfilms]

Science? LMAO.

[DarkGeneralRevan]

wow awesome BGM what is BGM name?

[socialjunsu]

I love your videos! BTW, awesome soundtrack!

[axi8148]

lol I can see why Valve didn't want a speeding cart

[n1ghthawkx]

another great video! really want to see more! :)

keep up the great work

[mortirex]

OMG ! why dont u test Cap Point Speed on cp_gravelpit ?

On gravelpit it tooks way longer then on dustbowl...

IMHO it would be much recognizable

[christianmalazarte]

yeah i have a new video that will be available with new tests on gravelpit that also include scout tests :)

[JeronimoGregolini]

Great video as aways.

[LarkinBo]

Great work man - keep those videos coming!

[timbosquad]

Wow, what music is that. It's great.

[christianmalazarte]

user: Hasouni

he has a channel in youtube but youtube wont let me post the link here

[timbosquad]

Ah, thanks very much man :) Found it. Looks like it's Beats #81 and #83 - "Summer Type Beat"

[Planetary0]

Does this apply to all control points? I'm pretty sure slow ones like gravel pit do have a limit on players stacking, like the cart.

[christianmalazarte]

i didn't test other points. maybe i will some other time. the thing is its so marginal that you wont notice it unless you go in and look at each individual frame

[christianmalazarte]

yeah the new test video is on gravelpit and it includes scouts :)

[GawYT]

First :P

Also thanks, I actually wondered about this.