@Mongoose6912 Personally I enjoy knowing the job I have is of interest to others. Railroads made this country great. I'm proud of the fact that I and those who work for me do so in an industry that is colorful, full of history, and so important.
As a lifelong railroader I am more than willing to give a friendly wave or answer a question. I just ask these hobbyist to not tresspass and to respect those of us who work in this industry.
This is a great video. I was browsing Youtube and came across this one. My boys just happened to be with me at the time. They kept asking what the little one is. I told them it's a slug and explained what it was in terms they could understand. My grandparents owned the lumberyard here and the tracks ran right by it. I spent many days there just watching trains go by and have only seen just a couple of them in my 39 years. We like all the vids with 3838 in them and hope to see more of them.
Hey Trevyvs you make some really nice videos makes me want to get into doing this too!!! I conjecture that a slug is what the person below me thought in the same? I've often wondered myself what those were for, however, I've never seen one in person.
No. A Slug is a unit that acts as another engine, but does not have another prime mover. It draws power from the Mother unit, In this case, the GP7U, for added adhesion, and traction effort. Most slugs look as you see them, cut down to size, and have gravel, or concrete blocks where the engine was for weight.
slugs have just the traction motors on the drive axles, the engine has been removed. It is dependant on a "master" unit to provide the electricity for the traction motors to move. The reason for this is to provide additional pulling effort without spinning the wheels. More power isn't needed, more traction is needed. Slugs are typically filled with concrete to provide the weight needed to increase traction. used in slow speed operations typically.
Slugs can also be built with or without a cab. Some slugs are fitted with an extra fuel tank to increase fuel economy so they can keep running and not have to fuel up as much. I have heard that engineers like to operate slugs because without an engine, they provide a more smooth and quiet ride. Railroads like the idea of converting old and obsolete locomotives because it's more economical and better than buying new locomotives.
I believe the GP-7's had only two seats. Plus, with a few more personnel in the switching, it makes for a quicker job.
Kamloops, BC used to have a GP-9m up until March 2008. Sad to see it gone. It was replaced with three SD40-2's. But, there are at least three WV cabooses... all for the extra seats and a bit of crossing safety.
oh, sorry... the CP. I haven't been able to watch the CN switch cars. I have no way of getting out there. The CP GP9m was gone, and three SD40-2's in its place, two in 'multi-mark and one in the latest paint scheme.
i'm a little hazy on the full description . But A slug is a former diesel which has had everything but it's traction motors and electrics removed and extra weight added. a diesel produces more (electric) power than what is needed for itself at low speeds, so by connecting a slug to it the extra power can be transferred to it via the MU cable, giving more traction for switching.
In this case you may notice it still has a fuel tank also. In the case of "road slugs" or heavy duty switching units, they'll often retain the tank and use it as a tender for the mother locomotive. Extra fuel means that they can run longer.
GP7us are just rebuilt GP7s with a chopped-nose. The slug has had everything stripped out except for the traction motor. Plus it adds more weight for better tractive effort.
always nice to see one still in use. Even if it's just as a shoving platform BNSF used an older santa fe CE-8 wide vision on a MOW train as a platform here last year (got lots of photos while it was sitting in town).
I've personally done some restoration work on a CE-8 our local museum has (which my mom got for the museum while she was the director back in 1991).
The cabose has pretty much been extinct from mainline operation we have reverted to the etd (end of train device). The cabose is used for switching operations used as platforms to do long shove moves. It's nice to have a sturdy platform rather than hanging for dear life it makes my job a little easier and a little safer.
when did they scrap her i saw her working in the first week of December at Hutchinson but without the slug also does the slug get the power from just the front of the mother unit?
Kinda reminds me of Temple Texas with all the former Santa Fe classic units being set in the yard. What's up with the yard slug, I'm thinking there aren't many more of those slugs still lest in Santa Fe paint. Oh what the heck, I'd take either one of those units on a good or bad day!
Awesome video!
Engine201 6 months ago
I so love the sound of GP7s! URR URR! Todays motors are boring.
Landaux 7 months ago
there some thing you don't see every day and a nice catch.
texasrupert 9 months ago
Is the slug powered? I see a fuel tank but no exhaust stack. What's a slug for?
JetMechMA 10 months ago
It was a sad day in railroad history for the caboose to be taken off the trains.
benschlechter 1 year ago 4
@benschlechter It was a sad day for railfans and historians. It was a good day for the health of railroading and railroaders.
charlieb640 11 months ago
Where the heck was this taped... Thats a Santa fe caboose on the end and ATSF come BNSF got rid of cabooses in the 80's
7nordic 1 year ago
fuckin foamers how about i show up at the mcdonalds where you work and videotape you????
Mongoose6912 1 year ago
@Mongoose6912 Personally I enjoy knowing the job I have is of interest to others. Railroads made this country great. I'm proud of the fact that I and those who work for me do so in an industry that is colorful, full of history, and so important.
As a lifelong railroader I am more than willing to give a friendly wave or answer a question. I just ask these hobbyist to not tresspass and to respect those of us who work in this industry.
charlieb640 1 year ago 4
@charlieb640 I wish foamers would Respect the Trespassing rule.
xxxseXierIkAF4Grlxxx 11 months ago
@xxxseXierIkAF4Grlxxx 95% of them do. There are always a few in anything that spoils it for the rest.
charlieb640 11 months ago
@Mongoose6912 Wow. Sounds like a paranoid trainman to me.
Boss302fan 8 months ago
Does a slug have only tractions motors and weight?
Gets its power from electrical cable from the locomotive?
robertgift 1 year ago
This is a great video. I was browsing Youtube and came across this one. My boys just happened to be with me at the time. They kept asking what the little one is. I told them it's a slug and explained what it was in terms they could understand. My grandparents owned the lumberyard here and the tracks ran right by it. I spent many days there just watching trains go by and have only seen just a couple of them in my 39 years. We like all the vids with 3838 in them and hope to see more of them.
gotmilkman32 1 year ago
i wonder why a slug?
miklyd 1 year ago
Norfolk Southern still used an old Norfolk and Western caboose in my hometown up until a few years ago.
RailfanTube 1 year ago
Lol I see a train right now
atani10 1 year ago
hey Treyvs so what is the differince of a GP7u and a GP9u?
Railfan19960 1 year ago
Wow that train just appears out of nowhere at 0:26. A ghost train.
verastaki 2 years ago 3
That looks like a track repair crew
Manongjojo 2 years ago
Is that the same GP7u-slug set that had a close call with a Union Pacific freight?
MrDickensonS 2 years ago
@MrDickensonS yeah
RailsandRoads 2 years ago
Hey Trevyvs you make some really nice videos makes me want to get into doing this too!!! I conjecture that a slug is what the person below me thought in the same? I've often wondered myself what those were for, however, I've never seen one in person.
DetroitLove4U 2 years ago
No. A Slug is a unit that acts as another engine, but does not have another prime mover. It draws power from the Mother unit, In this case, the GP7U, for added adhesion, and traction effort. Most slugs look as you see them, cut down to size, and have gravel, or concrete blocks where the engine was for weight.
CountVonBoco 2 years ago
i think.
BIGT6851 2 years ago
a slug is pretty much a regular engine but with out a cab.
BIGT6851 2 years ago
Not really. No. It doesn't have a diesel unit or a generator. It doesn't have all the equipment associated with auxillary racks.
It basically is a bunch of weight sitting on top of traction motors. The traction motors receive electricity from a "regular engine".
Boss302fan 2 years ago
this unit was scrapped and the slug was dumped in a lake somewhere
farrahmills 2 years ago
why?
acelafan123 2 years ago
He's either full of it or trying to be funny. No railroad is going to dump 50 or so tons of scrap metal into a lake. LOL
Boss302fan 2 years ago
no i mean scrap it. it looks in good condition
acelafan123 2 years ago
Yeah. I think he was just messing around. The whole "dumped in a lake" thing made it sound like he made it up
Boss302fan 2 years ago
alguien puede decirme donde es ese lugar
junitosplay 3 years ago
how does a slug work. i have never herd of one
twiggs24 3 years ago
It's basically a traction engine. It's very similar to a B-Unit. They just cut away excess body and you have slug unit.
nascarcasey5914 3 years ago
slugs have just the traction motors on the drive axles, the engine has been removed. It is dependant on a "master" unit to provide the electricity for the traction motors to move. The reason for this is to provide additional pulling effort without spinning the wheels. More power isn't needed, more traction is needed. Slugs are typically filled with concrete to provide the weight needed to increase traction. used in slow speed operations typically.
BudmanPackfan 3 years ago
Slugs can also be built with or without a cab. Some slugs are fitted with an extra fuel tank to increase fuel economy so they can keep running and not have to fuel up as much. I have heard that engineers like to operate slugs because without an engine, they provide a more smooth and quiet ride. Railroads like the idea of converting old and obsolete locomotives because it's more economical and better than buying new locomotives.
GrnArrow092 2 years ago
very nice! but i do hear a train in the background near the end of the video 5:10 5:17, 5:23 5:26
Adam008910 3 years ago
Where was this filmed..
jimmydcap 3 years ago
I believe the GP-7's had only two seats. Plus, with a few more personnel in the switching, it makes for a quicker job.
Kamloops, BC used to have a GP-9m up until March 2008. Sad to see it gone. It was replaced with three SD40-2's. But, there are at least three WV cabooses... all for the extra seats and a bit of crossing safety.
John
Zebrails 3 years ago
are you talking about the cn station in kamloops?
i coulda sworn i saw them switching with that slug a month or two ago. ive noticed the sd 40s more though.
trevorandy 3 years ago
oh, sorry... the CP. I haven't been able to watch the CN switch cars. I have no way of getting out there. The CP GP9m was gone, and three SD40-2's in its place, two in 'multi-mark and one in the latest paint scheme.
Zebrails 3 years ago
that guys is just chillin on the slug isnt he
DX721 3 years ago
what do they do with the slugs??
isb235 3 years ago
i'm a little hazy on the full description . But A slug is a former diesel which has had everything but it's traction motors and electrics removed and extra weight added. a diesel produces more (electric) power than what is needed for itself at low speeds, so by connecting a slug to it the extra power can be transferred to it via the MU cable, giving more traction for switching.
wildfire19861987 3 years ago
yep, go to barstow yard and you will see a lot!
Trains232 3 years ago
In this case you may notice it still has a fuel tank also. In the case of "road slugs" or heavy duty switching units, they'll often retain the tank and use it as a tender for the mother locomotive. Extra fuel means that they can run longer.
darkyoda 3 years ago
Slugs are usually used for the traction motors...
slybrdsngjr 3 years ago
and they fill them full of cement too
9760bn 3 years ago
I'm confused. I've seen the GP7s, but what r the GP7us and the slugs? The slug looks like a gondola. Is it like a B unit for the GP7u or what?
WilbertVereAwdry 3 years ago
GP7us are just rebuilt GP7s with a chopped-nose. The slug has had everything stripped out except for the traction motor. Plus it adds more weight for better tractive effort.
cbehr91 3 years ago
always nice to see one still in use. Even if it's just as a shoving platform BNSF used an older santa fe CE-8 wide vision on a MOW train as a platform here last year (got lots of photos while it was sitting in town).
I've personally done some restoration work on a CE-8 our local museum has (which my mom got for the museum while she was the director back in 1991).
wildfire19861987 3 years ago
AWESOME CATCH! rare unit and caboose!!
thetrainman407 3 years ago
amazing weres that ?
flexspinner 3 years ago
Was that the H&N swicher?
BNSF7776 4 years ago
Yes
Treyvs 4 years ago
The cab top is'nt round?
TrainmasterCurt 4 years ago
it's a GP7u with a "topeka cab", the Bangor & Aroostook bought a few from the santa fe in 1992, so I'm used to seeing those
sd40u 3 years ago
I bought 7 of these about 10 years ago. Great units. Nice electrical systems as they were upgraded. Paid almost nothing for them.
Definitely light units. A couple of the shortlines I sold them to put some cement ballast in every crevice they could find.
Boss302fan 3 years ago
??...you have 7 trains ??
i play trs 2004 , i got f....n shiploads full of trains. lol
euphoritch 2 years ago
7 trains? Huh?
I bought 7 GP7-U locomotives. Not 7 trains. Don't have them anymore. Sold them ages ago.
To be honest, I do not follow your email at all.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
anyway you had 7 of them
i mean did you realy bought 7 of these units , and do you mean a train unit with that?
real life models or scaled?
me 2 did not know wajt you mean with that ,i found it pretty impressive if you have 7 of the things on video
what they call slugg or caboose whatever
nevermind , i was pretty damn stoned ( netherlands so its legal) sorry m8
euphoritch 2 years ago
Understood. They were 7 actual "full size" GP7U locomotives bought from an out-of-service line in Kansas City.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
No, its a GP7u
Treyvs 4 years ago
Really? Sure has a weird front? SRY's GP7u's look different
TrainmasterCurt 4 years ago
very good 10+
yamaha789 4 years ago
why did you cut out the rest of it where it does the best honk the nations ever heard!
BNSF9250 4 years ago
Was this befor or after they almost hit?
Derailedtrain666 4 years ago
Before
Treyvs 4 years ago
The cabose has pretty much been extinct from mainline operation we have reverted to the etd (end of train device). The cabose is used for switching operations used as platforms to do long shove moves. It's nice to have a sturdy platform rather than hanging for dear life it makes my job a little easier and a little safer.
77mr 4 years ago
good stuff
railbum 4 years ago
More history down the drain!
jmehl77 4 years ago
lol yep....I made her famous before she was scrapped
Treyvs 4 years ago
when did they scrap her i saw her working in the first week of December at Hutchinson but without the slug also does the slug get the power from just the front of the mother unit?
iggyjill 4 years ago
Was that a cut up diesel at 0:08!?!
Bellwestern80 4 years ago
Well sometimes they might use an old diesel locomotive as a slug or B-unit and slug's are a B-unit and that there is a slug.
THandBfan 4 years ago
Dude, NICE! That's something you don't see every day. (at least I don't)
mafarnz 4 years ago
Were are they storing those dorn cabooses...Ive seen two but I want to see more.
LenaVideos 4 years ago
i kit bashed an atlas gp7 chop. i love those things
golfingrobert 4 years ago
This is the same switcher that almost collided with that UP loco aint it?
nraman4ever 4 years ago
Yep
Treyvs 4 years ago
GP7 With a Slug & A Caboose? You Are Doing Great Chuck.
chessie93 4 years ago
nice horn on the swicther in the background
Tcostello105 4 years ago
lol that was me :)
Treyvs 4 years ago
Hey that guy was in your way!
BRIANamtrak 4 years ago
Kinda reminds me of Temple Texas with all the former Santa Fe classic units being set in the yard. What's up with the yard slug, I'm thinking there aren't many more of those slugs still lest in Santa Fe paint. Oh what the heck, I'd take either one of those units on a good or bad day!
WolfmanAndrew 4 years ago
I like it! GO BNSF
BoxcarFrank 4 years ago