I wish you were still in your b-ball prime payton! Loved your energy, intensity, passion for the game and the great combo with shawn kemp. all went down hill when they got vin baker.
@Domini478 Still a bust, ask any sonic fan how they feel about Vin Baker and they'll tell you he was a disappointment and waste of money and space, Esp. considering he was joining an elite team with an elite pg in GP,replacing Shawn Kemp and he failed to meet the expectations that fanbase and franchise had for him... BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!
@alec9tap You act like the Sonics was great in the playoffs. They went to the finals one time in the 90s and they went to the conference finals 2 times! They had lost in the 1994 & 1995 first round. They struggle to win in the 1997 first round series and it went up to game 5! They lost to a older Houston team in the second round. Kemp was just a athletic person and that was it. Vin was better than him. Btw, the Sonics was big time chokers in the playoffs.
@Domini478 I agree they were playoff underachievers but they were still elite,A finals trip and two conference finals trips along with 50+win seasons consistently in that era make you elite stupid... and Vin Baker was added to help them reach that next level and instead hurt them more than he helped them
@Domini478 He had one good year in Seattle and disappeared, Indicating a free agent bust!!!!! Kind of where Carlos Boozer was headed in Chicago before these last couple of weeks and if he doesn't stay consistent will be just as big a free agent bust as Vin Baker
One thing thing that could be debated as overrated is stockton's assists, considering he had one guy he could consistently keep getting the ball to constantly while giving the entire team touches. Thing is though he is a pass first point guard through and through. He usually had high percentages on shooting because he wasn't a volume scorer despite having the ball most of the time as a point guard. But those assists would be hard to come by without a malone on his team.
Your logic works both ways, Karl Malone wouldn't average as much points as he did if Stockton wasn't there. Stockton spoon fed his teammates easy points, plenty of them being incredible passes so I dont see how you can argue that Stocktons assists are overrated. Stockton made Malone a better player much more so then the other way around. He still would be an all-time point guard and probably still be an assist leader without Malone, though maybe not by the current gap.
@killahoracle most of his assists are from Karl malone. A pass first point guard is only as good as the scorers/shooters surrounding him, even if he does have terrific efficiency. I don't think Magic would've put out the same number of assists as well if he didn't have worthy, scott and others.
There is nothing wrong with the logic considering it further proves malone and stockton's careers are symbiotic. And somewhat unique to that 1-2 combination the NBA doesn't have much anymore of.
@newagepun I said that Stockton's defense was average, just like those I mentioned. By the latter half of Stockton's career, his defense was average, at least the half that I watched (96-03).
He had good vision, dirty picks and a decent jumper. He had a great coast-to-coast pull up 3 that he used throughout his career that was great. I never saw Stockton shut anyone down, ever. I do remember Payton completely obliterating him in 96 when I was little, and that was the reason why I became an
@newagepun advocate of Payton as an underrated PG from a historic perspective kind of guy. Magic's height allowed him to see above the defenses, its not like his supporting players were outstanding outside of Kareem and Worthy. He had Kareem at his lowest point in his career (still good) and Worthy completely made his career off cuts fed by Magic. Put Magic on say the Run TMC Warriors at point with even more threats, and he might have averaged 15 assists per.
@newagepun as opposed to the popular thought that it was a two-way thing. (Malone could've thrived with countless other PGs, not the same for Stockton) I never said Stockton was good, but his only REAL standout attribute is his longevity, and that's it. He knew how to run an offense, had good intangibles and could pass. Everything else he was average and therefore he should only be considered as "above average" or "good", not to the point where Payton says a guy that took like 8 shots a game as
@O2JAMRULEZ Stockton was great... Great Defender,Clutch Playmaker,Best Passer in NBA History,He had alot of standout attributes not just longevity... Growing up in Chicago and watching the Bulls vs Jazz two finals in a row, Stockton was a man that put fear into your heart
@alec9tap Great defender? I'm sorry, but please revisit your old Finals tapes again. Stockton devolved into at best an average defender towards the late 90's. Yes, he was a clutch playmaker, not necessarily the best passer in history, but instead the best roll man on the high pick and roll in history. This video is about GP's toughest matchup, as a Bulls fan wouldn't you agree that MJ should be it?
@O2JAMRULEZ To your "devolved into an average defender at best" statement... So did Jordan and everyone else in the latter part of their careers, Look at Payton's numbers in the second half of his career, He never averaged 2.0+spg after the 98-99 season(I am a GP fan so don't misconstrude that as hating,their just facts) And Jordan only averaged 2+spg once after the 92-93 season... And yes i believe Jordan was the hardest offensive player to ever contain
@alec9tap But in GP's mind he probably felt more admiration for Stockton bc they were both PG's and fighting to be No.1 in the 90's at that position... Plus,in the 97 and 98 finals Stockton averaged more steals than Pippen and Jordan in those series, making your statement about him falling off irrelavant bc he was more consistent in the end than MJ and GP...Don't get me wrong Payton and Jordan are two of the best ever on defense and GP is definitely underrated in league history but
@alec9tap You are stupid as fuck because MJ is third all time on the steals list. MJ won defensive player of the year in 1988 and he was on 9 All NBA defensive teams. MJ has the highest career scoring avg in NBA History...ole dumbass!
@Domini478 You obviously can't comprehend english lol... I believe Jordan is the greatest perimeter defender of all-time, i was just correcting someone's mislead belief about Stock being an average-pretty good defender that devolved into an average defender at best late in his career and used GP and MJ(two of the best) as comparisons to show not only was Stock on par with them in their primes but he did not fall off as significantly as they did steals-wise late in their career
@O2JAMRULEZ And you can make a strong arguement he's the greatest passer ever,along with Magic Johnson and a few others but mind you Magic had Kareem,Worthy,Scott,Perkins,Cooper etc. running the break with him... Stockton had Malone and then Hornacek in the late 90's,name somebody else? Stockton may have done more with less than Magic or any other pg ever did,replace magic with stockton and Worthy with Malone on those laker squads and they may win as many titles
@newagepun his toughest matchup. I think this was skewed by Payton's frequent clashes with Stockton. Talking from a positional standpoint, I think KJ's speed made him the biggest offensive threat as a PG in Payton's time and should've been considered as a tough matchup (despite GP earning his nickname shutting him down), from an overall perspective, Jordan should be it, hands down. Had Karl played Payton on MJ from game one in the Finals, a game 7 was a definite, a Sonics win was a possibility.
as I grow older and get morei n sports I realize how valuable athletes with personality and who can express themselves are. there are so many players who shy away from the spotlight or really just aren't entertaining in the least but when you find players that not only are fun to listen to but can give you perspective on what happens in the ring/ on court/ on the field it is really cool to experience their insight first hand. love this video and love GP the more I watch him speak !!!!!
I guess that Payton didn't major in math at Oregon State University; based on his numbers, Stockton would have scored at least 22 or 23 points in that prototypical game, not 18.
I love how pol here are sitting questioning what Gary pay ton is saying....yet he was the 1 guarding him!in my opinion John Stockton is and was 1 of the all time great pg
@ThaTruth223 Not quite, Magic did what Stockton did and more. This is not to mention that GP himself was practically the reason why the Jazz didn't go far into the playoffs until 97-98, he absolutely outplayed Stockton. On the other hand, Stockton's overall consistency, low-key approach to things, longevity as a guard and his short shorts deserve major props.
@O2JAMRULEZ Okay that may be but you have to realize Magic 6'9 pg and no other guard was built to guard him.Stockton 6'1 and caused just as much havoc as johnson but quieter and pure.Dont get me wrong Magic is arguably the best PG but when it comes to pure PG,shooting %,and the fact that head averaged a double double for 10 straight years out of a 19 year career is incredible.Not to mention that hes the all time leader in assist and steals and one of the best shooters of all time.
@ThaTruth223 Stockton was never able to carry a team for stretches when the team was clearly struggling, in the vein of Magic, Isiah, Paul and Kidd. Talent wise, he was good, but not legendary. He got to where he is now due to a combination of good timing and hard work, which is respectable. Truth be told, if Stockton didn't wind up being Malone's teammate, he would've been a nice starting PG in the vein of someone like Scott Skiles (except starting the majority of his career) or Sam Cassell.
@O2JAMRULEZ he was never a scorer in the vein of magic, isiah nor paul. His style of play fed off more of a team game. You would be a total idiot to try build strictly off his style of play without surrounding him with a finisher like malone, decent ass wingmen and shooters.
Those comparisons are assuming that Stockton never had a HOFer with a playstyle that legit was perfect for him, and that he never put in the extreme work ethic that he used towards his success in the NBA.
On one last note, Stockton's assists are his real respectable stat.
He was really just an average defender that had inflated steals numbers (a la Baron Davis, Allen Iverson and even Sir Charles)
@O2JAMRULEZ I think you don't give stockton's defense enough credit. Baron Davis never struck me as a good defender nor Barkley in a sense. He's a good on ball defender who pushes his size and speed against smaller guys. Iverson is questionable as he also used his speed and reach. Stockton knew just as much how to defend against opposing ball handlers, poke the ball away from bigger guys and work the passing lanes.
Gary Payton knows what he is talking about. Stockto nis the Best Pure PG Ever. The Master Passer, Creator for Points and Best Desicion Maker Ever. Payton was asoume himself but he knows what he is talking about
@2enchant Until the 4th quarter and Lebron would disappear. I love Lebron's talent but he lacks that killer instinct. Defenses can force him to give up the ball in any pressure situation whereas a great player can and will get off a shot no matter who's defending him.Dwayne Wade has that killer instinct.
I need to thank You Gary for this answer. not many people notice Stock in this categories. And Gary play just ONE good series against John so he know what he is talking bout
@thug8200 in his prime?...no one person could shut him down..Gary Payton?..dude won 3 in a row..quit, played baseball, came back to win 3 more. I wonder if Jordan talks about GP as one of his toughest match ups.
This is interesting to hear, especially when you consider the fact that GP absolutely and totaly destroyed Stockton in 96 conference Finals Hakeem-Robinson style..
@HymanKaplan Wow, you're a tough critic. Judging Stockton's entire career on one playoff series? Payton and Stockton matched up for almost 15 years and it was always a good show. I think what Payton was saying was that Stockton was so consistant that you could never fully stop him. If you stop him from scoring, he'll produce through assists. If you stop him from assists he'll grab a bunch of steals. No matter what you do, he'll beat you in one way or the other...
@MikeyIV I'm in no way judging his career by one series. Stockton's consistency was insane. All you said is true, I was just pointing out that I was surprised by GP's compliments about a guy he outplayed this badly in a play offs. As I mentioned Hakeem-Robinson, I think you would be surprised too if Hakeem called Robinson his toughest match-up..
@rob23molina Your right.....it was Dennis Rodman who won games 2 and 6. And Payton did win game 5 against the Bulls by slowing MJ down. Plus, the role players like Kukoc and Longley won the first three games of the series, when Jordan and Pippen were playing below their standards.
Is he on something? Either way he is a huge face:) He is mad funny. Why he aint coaching? Why GP, you should be an nba coach, or at least a point gurad coach for Ty Lawson.
1 of my idol, Stockton was underrated great shooter,his fg,3pt,ft % was wished for nowadays PG starz:) his ast/to number was also pretty good, best decision maker,lead the team but let them do the job without many affairs,u know i mean?! never forget him!!!!!proud to be part of the Utah Jazz fam!
@1swagtrio I think he's giving Stockton major props mainly because Stockton didn't have the elite athleticism as all those scorers. Stockton had great IQ, he would mentally destroy you and that lasted longer than anything else.
@onlyusemegrenade I can't say that. I think Rondo is good, and gonna be great,but he won't reach Stockton's level. He needs a whole lot of work on his jumpshot.The best point guards in the league is Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. The closest style of play I see to Stockton is Deron Williams.
great answer by payton.
Dogotxen 1 week ago
I wish you were still in your b-ball prime payton! Loved your energy, intensity, passion for the game and the great combo with shawn kemp. all went down hill when they got vin baker.
sharkl11 1 month ago
@sharkl11 Hell yeah,Vin Baker was a bust!!!
alec9tap 3 weeks ago
@alec9tap Ole retard! Vin Baker is a 4 time all star...how is that a bust? Ole dumbass nigga!
Domini478 3 days ago
@Domini478 He was a free agent bust dumbass with Seattle
alec9tap 3 days ago
@alec9tap He is not a bust when he is a 4 time all star...stop hating! He was a all star with Seattle...ole dumbass!
Domini478 3 days ago
@Domini478 Still a bust, ask any sonic fan how they feel about Vin Baker and they'll tell you he was a disappointment and waste of money and space, Esp. considering he was joining an elite team with an elite pg in GP,replacing Shawn Kemp and he failed to meet the expectations that fanbase and franchise had for him... BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!
alec9tap 3 days ago
@alec9tap You act like the Sonics was great in the playoffs. They went to the finals one time in the 90s and they went to the conference finals 2 times! They had lost in the 1994 & 1995 first round. They struggle to win in the 1997 first round series and it went up to game 5! They lost to a older Houston team in the second round. Kemp was just a athletic person and that was it. Vin was better than him. Btw, the Sonics was big time chokers in the playoffs.
Domini478 3 days ago
@Domini478 I agree they were playoff underachievers but they were still elite,A finals trip and two conference finals trips along with 50+win seasons consistently in that era make you elite stupid... and Vin Baker was added to help them reach that next level and instead hurt them more than he helped them
alec9tap 3 days ago
@alec9tap Fuck you bitch nigga and this is my last comment!
Domini478 3 days ago
@Domini478 Your a bitch
alec9tap 3 days ago
@Domini478 He had one good year in Seattle and disappeared, Indicating a free agent bust!!!!! Kind of where Carlos Boozer was headed in Chicago before these last couple of weeks and if he doesn't stay consistent will be just as big a free agent bust as Vin Baker
alec9tap 3 days ago
@Domini478 And don't call me nigga!!!!! i ain't black bro haha
alec9tap 3 days ago
is dis dude like that all the time?
keverinkarama 1 month ago
One thing thing that could be debated as overrated is stockton's assists, considering he had one guy he could consistently keep getting the ball to constantly while giving the entire team touches. Thing is though he is a pass first point guard through and through. He usually had high percentages on shooting because he wasn't a volume scorer despite having the ball most of the time as a point guard. But those assists would be hard to come by without a malone on his team.
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Your logic works both ways, Karl Malone wouldn't average as much points as he did if Stockton wasn't there. Stockton spoon fed his teammates easy points, plenty of them being incredible passes so I dont see how you can argue that Stocktons assists are overrated. Stockton made Malone a better player much more so then the other way around. He still would be an all-time point guard and probably still be an assist leader without Malone, though maybe not by the current gap.
killahoracle 1 month ago
@killahoracle most of his assists are from Karl malone. A pass first point guard is only as good as the scorers/shooters surrounding him, even if he does have terrific efficiency. I don't think Magic would've put out the same number of assists as well if he didn't have worthy, scott and others.
There is nothing wrong with the logic considering it further proves malone and stockton's careers are symbiotic. And somewhat unique to that 1-2 combination the NBA doesn't have much anymore of.
newagepun 1 month ago
@newagepun I said that Stockton's defense was average, just like those I mentioned. By the latter half of Stockton's career, his defense was average, at least the half that I watched (96-03).
He had good vision, dirty picks and a decent jumper. He had a great coast-to-coast pull up 3 that he used throughout his career that was great. I never saw Stockton shut anyone down, ever. I do remember Payton completely obliterating him in 96 when I was little, and that was the reason why I became an
O2JAMRULEZ 1 month ago
@newagepun advocate of Payton as an underrated PG from a historic perspective kind of guy. Magic's height allowed him to see above the defenses, its not like his supporting players were outstanding outside of Kareem and Worthy. He had Kareem at his lowest point in his career (still good) and Worthy completely made his career off cuts fed by Magic. Put Magic on say the Run TMC Warriors at point with even more threats, and he might have averaged 15 assists per.
Stockton benefitted from Malone
O2JAMRULEZ 1 month ago
@newagepun as opposed to the popular thought that it was a two-way thing. (Malone could've thrived with countless other PGs, not the same for Stockton) I never said Stockton was good, but his only REAL standout attribute is his longevity, and that's it. He knew how to run an offense, had good intangibles and could pass. Everything else he was average and therefore he should only be considered as "above average" or "good", not to the point where Payton says a guy that took like 8 shots a game as
O2JAMRULEZ 1 month ago
@O2JAMRULEZ Stockton was great... Great Defender,Clutch Playmaker,Best Passer in NBA History,He had alot of standout attributes not just longevity... Growing up in Chicago and watching the Bulls vs Jazz two finals in a row, Stockton was a man that put fear into your heart
alec9tap 4 weeks ago
@alec9tap Great defender? I'm sorry, but please revisit your old Finals tapes again. Stockton devolved into at best an average defender towards the late 90's. Yes, he was a clutch playmaker, not necessarily the best passer in history, but instead the best roll man on the high pick and roll in history. This video is about GP's toughest matchup, as a Bulls fan wouldn't you agree that MJ should be it?
O2JAMRULEZ 4 weeks ago
@O2JAMRULEZ To your "devolved into an average defender at best" statement... So did Jordan and everyone else in the latter part of their careers, Look at Payton's numbers in the second half of his career, He never averaged 2.0+spg after the 98-99 season(I am a GP fan so don't misconstrude that as hating,their just facts) And Jordan only averaged 2+spg once after the 92-93 season... And yes i believe Jordan was the hardest offensive player to ever contain
alec9tap 4 weeks ago
@alec9tap But in GP's mind he probably felt more admiration for Stockton bc they were both PG's and fighting to be No.1 in the 90's at that position... Plus,in the 97 and 98 finals Stockton averaged more steals than Pippen and Jordan in those series, making your statement about him falling off irrelavant bc he was more consistent in the end than MJ and GP...Don't get me wrong Payton and Jordan are two of the best ever on defense and GP is definitely underrated in league history but
alec9tap 4 weeks ago
@alec9tap Stockton was also a great defender, a few steps below those two but still great and never average
alec9tap 4 weeks ago
@alec9tap You are stupid as fuck because MJ is third all time on the steals list. MJ won defensive player of the year in 1988 and he was on 9 All NBA defensive teams. MJ has the highest career scoring avg in NBA History...ole dumbass!
Domini478 3 days ago
@Domini478 You obviously can't comprehend english lol... I believe Jordan is the greatest perimeter defender of all-time, i was just correcting someone's mislead belief about Stock being an average-pretty good defender that devolved into an average defender at best late in his career and used GP and MJ(two of the best) as comparisons to show not only was Stock on par with them in their primes but he did not fall off as significantly as they did steals-wise late in their career
alec9tap 3 days ago
@O2JAMRULEZ And you can make a strong arguement he's the greatest passer ever,along with Magic Johnson and a few others but mind you Magic had Kareem,Worthy,Scott,Perkins,Cooper etc. running the break with him... Stockton had Malone and then Hornacek in the late 90's,name somebody else? Stockton may have done more with less than Magic or any other pg ever did,replace magic with stockton and Worthy with Malone on those laker squads and they may win as many titles
alec9tap 4 weeks ago
@newagepun his toughest matchup. I think this was skewed by Payton's frequent clashes with Stockton. Talking from a positional standpoint, I think KJ's speed made him the biggest offensive threat as a PG in Payton's time and should've been considered as a tough matchup (despite GP earning his nickname shutting him down), from an overall perspective, Jordan should be it, hands down. Had Karl played Payton on MJ from game one in the Finals, a game 7 was a definite, a Sonics win was a possibility.
O2JAMRULEZ 1 month ago
Stockton is the best "pure" point guard to ever play the game. I agree with "The Glove" in his assessment of Stockton.
sd0676 1 month ago
yeah stockton was good too bad he never got a ring
rogerronaldo17 2 months ago
Gary Payton giving you praise is fukin huge. guy is the best defensive guard outside of Jordan in the last 30 yrs
Dkouts57 2 months ago
how the hell are people gonna doubt somebody that actually played against all these players think i would trust his opinion over yours
MrFreshxKicks 2 months ago
as I grow older and get morei n sports I realize how valuable athletes with personality and who can express themselves are. there are so many players who shy away from the spotlight or really just aren't entertaining in the least but when you find players that not only are fun to listen to but can give you perspective on what happens in the ring/ on court/ on the field it is really cool to experience their insight first hand. love this video and love GP the more I watch him speak !!!!!
mariopot789 2 months ago
I guess that Payton didn't major in math at Oregon State University; based on his numbers, Stockton would have scored at least 22 or 23 points in that prototypical game, not 18.
Oh, well ...
ChandlerPol 2 months ago
wow...didn't see that coming !! I just had +100% respect for Mr. Gary Payton !
yoe91 2 months ago
Damn Gary are you drunk? I hope so...
vsmcax1007 2 months ago
I love how pol here are sitting questioning what Gary pay ton is saying....yet he was the 1 guarding him!in my opinion John Stockton is and was 1 of the all time great pg
Carmelov2012 2 months ago
thats a good answer. john stockton really puts out every single play.
ro42023 2 months ago
sounds and acts like wesley pipes
fabien82 3 months ago
GP speaks the truth,Stockon in my opinion is the greatest PG to ever play
ThaTruth223 3 months ago
@ThaTruth223 Not quite, Magic did what Stockton did and more. This is not to mention that GP himself was practically the reason why the Jazz didn't go far into the playoffs until 97-98, he absolutely outplayed Stockton. On the other hand, Stockton's overall consistency, low-key approach to things, longevity as a guard and his short shorts deserve major props.
O2JAMRULEZ 3 months ago
@O2JAMRULEZ Okay that may be but you have to realize Magic 6'9 pg and no other guard was built to guard him.Stockton 6'1 and caused just as much havoc as johnson but quieter and pure.Dont get me wrong Magic is arguably the best PG but when it comes to pure PG,shooting %,and the fact that head averaged a double double for 10 straight years out of a 19 year career is incredible.Not to mention that hes the all time leader in assist and steals and one of the best shooters of all time.
ThaTruth223 3 months ago
@ThaTruth223 Stockton was never able to carry a team for stretches when the team was clearly struggling, in the vein of Magic, Isiah, Paul and Kidd. Talent wise, he was good, but not legendary. He got to where he is now due to a combination of good timing and hard work, which is respectable. Truth be told, if Stockton didn't wind up being Malone's teammate, he would've been a nice starting PG in the vein of someone like Scott Skiles (except starting the majority of his career) or Sam Cassell.
O2JAMRULEZ 3 months ago
@O2JAMRULEZ he was never a scorer in the vein of magic, isiah nor paul. His style of play fed off more of a team game. You would be a total idiot to try build strictly off his style of play without surrounding him with a finisher like malone, decent ass wingmen and shooters.
newagepun 1 month ago
Those comparisons are assuming that Stockton never had a HOFer with a playstyle that legit was perfect for him, and that he never put in the extreme work ethic that he used towards his success in the NBA.
On one last note, Stockton's assists are his real respectable stat.
He was really just an average defender that had inflated steals numbers (a la Baron Davis, Allen Iverson and even Sir Charles)
O2JAMRULEZ 3 months ago
@O2JAMRULEZ you win with the not legendary comment
ThaTruth223 3 months ago
@O2JAMRULEZ I think you don't give stockton's defense enough credit. Baron Davis never struck me as a good defender nor Barkley in a sense. He's a good on ball defender who pushes his size and speed against smaller guys. Iverson is questionable as he also used his speed and reach. Stockton knew just as much how to defend against opposing ball handlers, poke the ball away from bigger guys and work the passing lanes.
newagepun 1 month ago
Gary Payton knows what he is talking about. Stockto nis the Best Pure PG Ever. The Master Passer, Creator for Points and Best Desicion Maker Ever. Payton was asoume himself but he knows what he is talking about
Defender80s 3 months ago
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2enchant 4 months ago
@2enchant Until the 4th quarter and Lebron would disappear. I love Lebron's talent but he lacks that killer instinct. Defenses can force him to give up the ball in any pressure situation whereas a great player can and will get off a shot no matter who's defending him.Dwayne Wade has that killer instinct.
CanvassBlack 3 months ago
@2enchant funny joke
ThaTruth223 3 months ago
@2enchant You are dumb for that comment.
Domini478 3 months ago
I miss Stock & GP. Forget Chris Paul, forget D-Will, even forget Derrick Rose, these two point guards owned that position for a long time!!
corychivers 4 months ago
,,,,great point,,,
noformstyle 4 months ago
I need to thank You Gary for this answer. not many people notice Stock in this categories. And Gary play just ONE good series against John so he know what he is talking bout
paumonamic 5 months ago
only player i have ever seen shut jordan down
thug8200 5 months ago
@thug8200 in his prime? he did a good job in the finals but lost every game since. 45 points in the "George Karl" made it look easy.
cms7777 4 months ago
@cms7777 when payton guarded jordan he shot 35 percent
thug8200 4 months ago
@thug8200 in his prime?...no one person could shut him down..Gary Payton?..dude won 3 in a row..quit, played baseball, came back to win 3 more. I wonder if Jordan talks about GP as one of his toughest match ups.
cms7777 4 months ago
@thug8200 That was just for the finals. Other than that, MJ killed Payton like everybody else.
Domini478 3 months ago
stockton is the man,, less energy in offense to get the job done in defense. doesn't waste too much energy. anticipates team mates.
templar1217 6 months ago
This is interesting to hear, especially when you consider the fact that GP absolutely and totaly destroyed Stockton in 96 conference Finals Hakeem-Robinson style..
HymanKaplan 6 months ago
@HymanKaplan Wow, you're a tough critic. Judging Stockton's entire career on one playoff series? Payton and Stockton matched up for almost 15 years and it was always a good show. I think what Payton was saying was that Stockton was so consistant that you could never fully stop him. If you stop him from scoring, he'll produce through assists. If you stop him from assists he'll grab a bunch of steals. No matter what you do, he'll beat you in one way or the other...
MikeyIV 4 months ago 5
@MikeyIV I'm in no way judging his career by one series. Stockton's consistency was insane. All you said is true, I was just pointing out that I was surprised by GP's compliments about a guy he outplayed this badly in a play offs. As I mentioned Hakeem-Robinson, I think you would be surprised too if Hakeem called Robinson his toughest match-up..
HymanKaplan 4 months ago
Gary Payton keeps it real man. John Stockton is the best pure point guard of all time.
TheSleepaholic 8 months ago
I wonder if he's got that NBA Jam custom machine with him in back there. That machine would be worth thousands now.
puffykilled2pac 8 months ago
Of course you ain't got no bulls stuff up he kicked your ass. Stockton didn't get it done in the finals.
rob23molina 9 months ago
Wow was not expecting this answer ... the reasons he gave were good too
kileer7 9 months ago
I love his response!
RohoicRamz94 9 months ago
It was Ron Harper.
upabittoolate 10 months ago
Gary Payton looks and sounds hammered in this video. And Gary never guarded MJ in his prime. Woulda got his ass violated
tdot4life15 11 months ago
@tdot4life15 The same MJ he held to 22 points twice in the NBA Finals!!
BigdogH201 11 months ago
@BigdogH201 Did payton win those games?? NO he didn't.
rob23molina 9 months ago
@rob23molina Your right.....it was Dennis Rodman who won games 2 and 6. And Payton did win game 5 against the Bulls by slowing MJ down. Plus, the role players like Kukoc and Longley won the first three games of the series, when Jordan and Pippen were playing below their standards.
BigdogH201 9 months ago
@BigdogH201 Good people finally carried their weight. They knew their roles & stepped up. To bad we couldn't say the same for payton's teammates.
rob23molina 9 months ago
@BigdogH201 MJ was avg 30+ the first three games in the 96 finals.
Domini478 3 months ago
@Domini478 You're right. Until George Karl magically put Payton on Jordan from games 4 to 6.
BigdogH201 3 months ago
@tdot4life15
Like I asked MrFan32
What did he face in MJ from 1990-93?
blackadam06 10 months ago
gary never guarded a prime MJ, he woulda gotten raped
MrFan32 11 months ago
@MrFan32
So what was he facing in MJ from 1990-93?
blackadam06 10 months ago
@blackadam06 he`ll get torched like the rest of them
MrFan32 10 months ago
@MrFan32
No argument from me on that, but U said he didn't face MJ in his prime, which he did..
blackadam06 10 months ago
Gary looks big as hell on the link.
hamzaahmed16 1 year ago
Him and Kemp used to play pool ALL the time in Seattle
puffykilled2pac 1 year ago
Hearing him makes me miss him shouting F words on the court.
ElTuco84 1 year ago 7
John was also clutch he was the one who took the game winning shots not Malone but Gary you simply cannot deny that John was dirty as hell!!!
Dirtiest player in NBA history his picks could have gotten him thrown out of the game in todays pussy league.
27twentyseven27 1 year ago 8
@27twentyseven27 John Stockton's picks would have made Kevin Garnett cry and run away.
SirBigDICKNigga 1 year ago
@27twentyseven27 Malone hit game winning shots, too.
Domini478 3 months ago
@27twentyseven27 ahahha funny but very right.
gsvkck 3 months ago
@27twentyseven27 ... true.
ChandlerPol 2 months ago
Is he on something? Either way he is a huge face:) He is mad funny. Why he aint coaching? Why GP, you should be an nba coach, or at least a point gurad coach for Ty Lawson.
Lorenshyne 1 year ago
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1 of my idol, Stockton was underrated great shooter,his fg,3pt,ft % was wished for nowadays PG starz:) his ast/to number was also pretty good, best decision maker,lead the team but let them do the job without many affairs,u know i mean?! never forget him!!!!!proud to be part of the Utah Jazz fam!
botondkiri 1 year ago
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botondkiri 1 year ago
I'm kind of surprised he didn't say Steve Francis, because he used to cross Gary till his glove just looked worn out.
1swagtrio 1 year ago
@1swagtrio lol
Alta626 1 year ago
@1swagtrio I think he's giving Stockton major props mainly because Stockton didn't have the elite athleticism as all those scorers. Stockton had great IQ, he would mentally destroy you and that lasted longer than anything else.
SirBigDICKNigga 1 year ago
lol GP's facial expression reminds me of Marbury
iceicebuddha 1 year ago
stockton was as true of a pg as there will be rondo should base his game after his, i think he has the potential to be like stockton.
onlyusemegrenade 1 year ago
@onlyusemegrenade I can't say that. I think Rondo is good, and gonna be great,but he won't reach Stockton's level. He needs a whole lot of work on his jumpshot.The best point guards in the league is Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. The closest style of play I see to Stockton is Deron Williams.
1swagtrio 1 year ago
@1swagtrio yeah rondo cant even shoot a free throw for his life but he has good court vision he reminds me of a jason kidd
onlyusemegrenade 1 year ago
I love this video. "LAKERS BABY LAKERS!!!" lol
Best of all was giving props to John Stockton, the best pg to ever play
TehGuinness 2 years ago
John was a hell of a player.
chalkmaze 2 years ago