Saturday Morning: Here I Go

[hinotonlife]

i agree

the bible says  what leave vengeance to the lord?

ok well lets strap that murderer in an electric chair and send him ofrf with a prayer (to heaven if he asks forgiveness?)

I guess Jesus moves too slow for some christians

[Juggaloserialeater]

I use drugs to find the real reasons I hurt. to give me more intense emotions then pain to relate to..to go after my problems not run from them.

[sammipooh]

'the opium of the masses'

[mk0246]

Thanks for the new videos, I have been waiting since your last one a few months ago. What was the hiatus about?

[celticarchie]

Just to note, I can barely get through one of Jack's videos. I'll see a response video from you or someone else, and I'll click on the link to see what Jack was dribbling about. I either lose the thread of what he's saying because of a contradictory loop-de-loop he's done, or my bullsh!t-o-meter will just go into overdrive. :P

[pickofthepatch]

Exodus Moses demanding the release of his people.God warned(WARNED) that the first born will die unless there is lambs blood brushed over the doors.The Angel of Death passed through all of those who did not believe and had not followed the directions lost their first born including the Pharaoh's son.

[achampag]

you should get some throat coat tea...from yogi or traditional medicines...

[LEV1ATHYN]

Cris, I think that your cheesecake is tasty.

[55ella2007k]

Satire is a dying art form, my friend :) People are looking for easy answers - as usual. And they need some sort of authority figure, either real or imagined, in order to feel secure. People want a FINAL answer, no matter what, and too much ambiguity, things too complex, does not interest them. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you ask me.

[Viktir666]

5 stars. It's all true.

[bowlsallbroken]

A couple of days ago my wife and I were in Barne's & Noble looking for gifts for my niece and nephew. I stumbled upon the "Religious Children's" section. I'm not sure I could accurately describe the creepiness of some of these books or the exact depth and nature of my discomfort.

[MilitantPeaceist]

XD kodak colour moment!

[pickofthepatch]

It blows me away how many people shoot off their mouths about a subject that they obvious do not have the first clue about.

Its like teaching someone to run a Nuclear power plant without knowing anything about radiation or the atom.

[MilitantPeaceist]

Dam I wish I could rate this again!!!!

[MilitantPeaceist]

Delusion!!

LOL Jesus even died for our sins (apparently) to save ALL of us from going to hell (like FUCK the afterlife shit, it's here and now)

and then the fundies somehow wove hell back in!

LOLOL

[MilitantPeaceist]

As I found out today, ther are so many biggoted atheists on YouTube that it astounded me.

but atheists can be anarchists too!

Just for a laugh - chk out the gospel of Thomas (the book the fundies DONT want you to read). If you come to atheism, then you came to the same conclusion as I.

Want an analogy (but the fundies wont like it) It is like a transgender person growing up in a defined gender dichotomy when they are smack dab in the middle with no stereotype!

5* awesome!!!

[MaikUniversum]

atheist is not a synonim for a free-thinker. Free-thinker could be a skeptic synonim (I don't know for sure), but atheist ? No. Not all atheists are free thinkers

[ExSaint1379]

Get Tussin Maximum strength Cough and Cold reliever. It makes you high.

[BGenerous]

Religion is like beer:

It numbs the pain

It helps shut out reality

It makes you pee

OK, it is *almost* like beer.

[dilemmix]

I got it wrong then! I was told that religion is like opium, lol.

[BGenerous]

lol, and I've heard that about television too.

Does that mean religion is like television?

Hour long shows sprinkled with fantastical claims by the sponsor. Yeah, that fits. :)

[CocoMac877]

whats the other channel?

[htoontube]

You speak so true, Cristofer, thank you.

[htoontube]

Das American Atheist!

[dilemmix]

Oh but everything in the bible about God being cruel is due to bad translations! Hahaha this is what a Christian (Catholic) friend told me. She really believes that all the bad stuff like God ordering to kill all 1st borns or something was put there by people or bad translations, while all the happy clappy things were written by God. Talk about deluded!

[pickofthepatch]

Wow try that one again...Try reading the Book.Oh by the way Bible is latin for Book.....

The bad in the scripture is due to our sin.

It was the Pharoh that the ordered the 1st born of all families to be killed~Not God

The Pharoh feared Christ

[nickrose83]

Actually Exodus 12 discusses God killing all the first born in Egypt.

Ex 12:

29: "At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well.

30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead."

[dilemmix]

Agree with nickrose. You should read the Book :)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

Read (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

[2200ratedHunter]

Keep up the good work man, I really like these video's makes me glad to see someone thats so smart, calm and yet got so many opinions about the beliefs. And always with a logical sense next to it.

[nintendo64isking]

u speak so much truth cristofer7

[sotijas]

ok man, show us the kitty

[DescartesPupil]

It's great that you point out again that the Christian god really does hate humanity. Christians are fond of proclaiming that "God is love" but if you ask one, as I asked Nephilimfree on one of his videos, to show how their god loves people you will not get an answer.

Sending Jesus to suffer some temporary pain by being crucified, even if it were true, does not demonstrate to me that such a god loves me. If that is love I shudder to think what he might do to people that he does not love.

[EyeLean5280]

Well, Benjamin Franklin contended that beer is proof of God's love.

[DescartesPupil]

That is a good quote, for showing what an excellent beverage beer is if not for showing the love of a deity.

However, Benjamin Franklin was reportedly a deist and did not believe in the divinity of Jesus and was therefore, by definition, not a Christian. I strongly doubt that he used that phrase with the same intent that you are using it now.

[EyeLean5280]

You're wrong.

He used it exactly the same way.

I was JOKING.

[dilemmix]

And, since God is supposed to be all-powerful, he could've forgiven mankind for their sins by having people pick flowers, instead of crucifying his 'son'.

It's all very silly, really.

[slipcurve]

15 minute cris vid? What a pleasant surprise in my subscriptions.

[pickofthepatch]

Why do you waste your time?

Why do any of you waste your time with this issue.Why is it an issue at all?

[Darkhunt66]

Demonization. That's why it's an issue; If you were constantly stereotyped and saw your category of belief divided because some don't wish to associate with it (agnostics) then you'd feel the same.

[pickofthepatch]

Whatever you say here is not going to change anything.

Demonization or not.

I see here on YT Theist and Atheists and whatever inbetween going around and around and for what?

[Darkhunt66]

Because we don't share your apathy.

[Darkhunt66]

You know something, I always find it humorous on the debate of what Atheism should mean that it's Theists arguing with Agnostic Atheists on what the term implies. I never see for instance find Gnostic Atheists trying to defend themselves and support the notion that Atheism means a denial of Gods existence... hmm, I wonder :/

[rmac40]

I laughed hard at the start of your vid!

[Darkhunt66]

Still though, I stand by that all Atheism entails is 'A-theism' which is without god. Implying it's anything else is as unfair, if not more so, than saying every Muslim is an extremist. Let us decide what we are, please.

[jrmasterdebater]

let US decide who WE are? sounds an awful like a group of people sharing the same ideas, theories, and beliefs :)

[Darkhunt66]

Nope. Not really. For a Christian, you were quick to "take that out of context". Just so you also know, I actually called it a belief in one of my earlier comments aswell, which you could have just as easily snapped out to call me out on.

But whatever, let me clarify: Atheism is a group, as in a category, no doubt. We have all different ideas, theories and beliefs, but we all have an agreement on what Atheism itself should be defined as.

[jrmasterdebater]

again, i'm not here to change anybody's mind, i'm here to get a better grasp of other people's beliefs, or lack thereof

I would just like you to clarify how you AREN"T believing in something. If there is no concrete evidence on either side, doesn't there have to be some element of faith in your beliefs? (or lack thereof)

[Darkhunt66]

This isn't a competition, the term atheist implies nothing but a lack of belief in God. The fact that there's an overwhelming amount of religion in the world is somewhat daunting, but the implication that our confidence that we're correct equals faith is no less to the point that we have faith we're not in The Matrix right now.

We all are confident in our opinions, views and perceptions of things but comparing that to religious faith is ludicrous. Confidence in logic and reason is not faith.

[Darkhunt66]

When I said let us decide, I meant how the social stigma of the term Atheism came from the religious' own misconception of what the term meant. Stop telling Atheists what they are just because of a definition you hear in a dictionary fueled by this historical ignorance, as no Atheist really agrees that it's a dismissal of a deity possibly existing, even if they are gnostic themselves. Notice I'm saying "agree on the definition" not their stance on the subject of God.

[jrmasterdebater]

I am a christian, and am a christian because i believe the facts are in fact there. But i do agree with this video to an extent, I personally don't care for religious people(s) of any kind (atheists included) that try to "force" their religion to others. Ultimately people are going to believe what they are going to be, and if people are not wanting to change who the hell am I to try to make them. But good video, to an extent :)

[Darkhunt66]

Atheism is not a religion.

[jrmasterdebater]

although this is such a tremendous arguement, i guess i'll try to muster up a response... simple internet definition:

a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons

hmmm.. atheism, the belief that there is no god and large number of people not only follow it, but try to make pathetic naive christians follow their thought process? don't see where you're getting your 5 word arguement from :)

[Darkhunt66]

I hate to use the redundant "bald isn't a hair colour" argument, but I'm sure you realize that Atheism is a lack of belief in God, or at least that is what most of us prefer to acknowledge it as, so calling it a religion would be false.

But I do agree that imposing your beliefs on someone or trying to shut someone's beliefs down isn't correct in the slightest if they don't want to argue the point, but as a matter of debate it's justified.

[jrmasterdebater]

But until there can be a CONCRETE answer, one that cannot be refuted on either side there MUST be some element of faith, no matter to what degree. and if that faith is in fact there, how does that differentiate from religion?

[dilemmix]

So do you think that because you cannot refute that there are no fairies dancing on your bed when you're out, you must have some faith in that?

[Delinexwow]

first atheism isnt a religion. secondly people believe in christianity because they are indeed forced to as children most of the time.

[jrmasterdebater]

first: great arguement on atheism isn't a religion, as far as i'm concerned it is a large group of people that have a similiar central BELIEF... and secondly really? atheists often state that they have reached an "awakening" of some sort when they realize organized religion... are you telling me christians can't have this awakening when they, too, can "think for themselves"? not christian is a puppet :)

[Delinexwow]

First, no, atheism is not a religion. its SIMPLY a lack of a belief in a god. YOU are an atheist as well. Let me demonstrate, Do you believe in zeus? If you say no IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, you are an atheist. period, no way around it, you ARE an atheist if you say no when dealing with zeus. does that make you a religious atheist against zeus? no. it simply means you dont believe in zeus.

[jrmasterdebater]

again, that is all up to individual interpretation. It can be the position that deities to not exist, which is my own interpretation, but arguing personal interpretations is obviously a never-ending debate.

[Delinexwow]

no, again, you are twisting the definition, atheism is NOT exclusively a belief that deities do NOT exist. you can VERY VERY WELL say you think there is prob a got out there but dunno, which most think is agnostic, its STILL atheism, because you have NO direct belief in ANY particular god. atheism does NOT mean belief there is no god. without a DIRECT belief in any god, regardless if thats deism or theism, you are atheist.

[jrmasterdebater]

I really don't understand your point in this at all, definitions can be found all over defending both sides of this arguement, which again goes down to being ONE MAN'S OPINION. And because i don't believe in Zeus, how does that e/affect (always confuses me haha) my DIRECT belief in the christian GOD, so basically what i'm trying to say is HOW IS THAT RELEVANT TO ANYTHING??

[Delinexwow]

no, it doesnt. a pen is a pen. its defined as a pen, you can try and say a pen includes pencil, it doesnt, a pen is a pen. just as an atheist is an atheist, just because you dont fully understand the definition doesnt make you any less wrong. an atheist is SIMPLY a lack of a belief in a god, it also comes from greeks, which called CHRISTIANS atheist first. you are an atheist just the same, there is NO religion behind atheism.

[jrmasterdebater]

your arguements don't link delinex. I fully understand MY definition and apparently as well as other sources all over the internet, which again COMES DOWN TO INTERPRETATION, your ignorance to acknowledge multiple interpretations of a term surprises me. AND HOW DOES ZEUS RELATE TO ANYTHING? How can one be a theist and an atheist at the same time?

[Darkhunt66]

You can interpret anything in any way, doesn't mean it is a correct interpretation. It was not too long ago that being an atheist was interchangable with being a satanist. Are you seriously going to tell me that's correct? Or to say that being a homosexual means you're evil?

The definitions still exist, but you have to admit there's not a huge enough stance on Atheism to get such false interpretations removed. The point is denying deitys exist came from a misconception by theists of the term.

[Delinexwow]

holy shit, you really cant get this can you? ATHEIST IMPLIES TO ONE GOD AT A TIME, DO YOU BELIEVE IN ZEUS?! IF YOU DO NOT YOU ARE INDEED AN ATHEIST. the word ATHEIST comes from greeks, THEY CALLED CHRISTIANS ATHEISTS when they professed christ was the one true god. its not interpretation, you are telling scholars, AND greek history THEY are wrong and you are right. you are telling those that INVENTED the word you use that they arent using it right. you are wrong on the definition

[Delinexwow]

how do you not get it? how do you not get why i implied zeus? its not ignorance on my part, its fucking stupidity on yours. its not that hard to get, you just dont like the fact that the ones you argue against you yourself are included in. YOU ARE AN ATHEIST when it comes to zeus, doesnt matter if you understand how or why, you ARE, by definition, an atheist. just like it doesnt matter if you know what a pen is, A PEN IS STILL A FUCKING PEN.

[Delinexwow]

i dont acknowledge multiple interpretations for ar eason, people lie and change them, look at hovind for example, as you mentioned earlier, christians are VERY VERY VERY VERY bad at lying to make shit fit their way. i dont accept multiple interpretations on this specifically BECAUSE THERE ISNT, WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE WORD, WE KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. regardless of HOW many people do not like it and disagree with it and want to change it, it MEANS what it means. find a new word.

[Delinexwow]

and as well atheism can imply to all gods, however generally your ignorant ass definitions COMES from religious people refusing to admit hey are atheists at all, for one that means god lied, since he says we dont exist. which is also absurd considering if god himself doesnt believe in a supreme being above him it makes him an atheist. it breaks down shit and its wrong, the original and root word is the definition i gave you, you are using changed, altered definitions of the word. its wrong.

[Darkhunt66]

Delinex, what are you getting so butthurt over? I haven't even seen him post a reply in the last 30 minutes. I know you're somewhat aggrivated but you aren't exactly doing the atheistic stance a favour by ranting and raving away for three comments with the caps lock on, it makes you look childish.

[Delinexwow]

the zeus thing is simple. when on a discussion about zeus, you believe in him, or you dont, as a supreme power, if you do NOT believe in zeus, you ARE an atheist when it comes to zeus...its not that difficult.

[Delinexwow]

its not your interpretation im arguing, its your definition, which your definition is wrong.

[Darkhunt66]

The biggest issue with Atheism is that people generally seem to have different interpretations of what the term implies. A lot of Atheists are actually identical to Agnostics, but those that call themselves Agnostic will insist that we Atheists deny all possibility of God when most of us don't.

A lot of religious think that to be an atheist you're inherently militant and pushing your beliefs down others throats. I think the saturation of atheism is why these debates will never safely conclude.

[jrmasterdebater]

As a christian I can definitely feel you on that. I have Hovand and jeezusfreak on "my side" and they are constantly forcing their beliefs down others' throats haha... but i agree, arguing interpretations really gets us nowhere

[Delinexwow]

secondly, your whole awakening thing you are attempting to bunch up all atheist on what a very few have said. that is NO different than me saying christians often say you should pray to mother mary instead. which they DO. look up catholics. is this fair to you? regardless of how you want to spin it, atheism is NOT a religion. jus because a few have some beliefs doesnt mean its part of their atheism. just like me saying many christians claim jesus came to the indians in america..mormans.

[jrmasterdebater]

I'm attempting to bunch up all atheists' arguements in one? I was merely using that as an example. If there are these people that have no sense of awakening and never grow to believe anything for themselves, are they really relevent to anything?!? and i'd study up on your theism. I'm definitely not a morman, but have attended enough morman services to know that you are making a stereotype and generalization, that really doesn't even exist, making you a hypocrite??? i believe so

[Delinexwow]

who said they awaken to anything? many people are raised atheist, and never change. their are RELIGIONS that are atheist. they just dont have a god in them.

and no im not making a stereotype of anything, im making an example just like you did, mormans ARE christians, catholics ARE christians. if you argue this then you are putting christians in hte minority religions. 1.2 BILLION catholics, they are considered christians. im SHOWING You stereotyping is WRONG. its what you did.

[jrmasterdebater]

delinexwow, I fail to see any substance in this, as well as any point whatsoever, you're making completely irrelevent arguements in a seemingly pointless debate at 5:30 in the morning haha

[Delinexwow]

ok...lets try this again, slowly. you bunched up atheist when saying this.

"atheists often state that they have reached an "awakening" of some sort when they realize organized religion..."

THATS a stereotype. not all atheist had religions, and not all atheist arent religious.

i showed you its wrong by saying catholics say to pray to mother mary, should i use htat against YOU? is it fair? no it is not.

i did the SAME thing with mormons.

i did not stereotype, i showed you how its wrong.

[Delinexwow]

my whole point is the 'example' you used was a horrible example and implies to very few atheist to start with. it shouldnt be used at all.

[Darkhunt66]

"atheists often state that they have reached an "awakening" of some sort when they realize organized religion..."

Heh. I never saw that Delinex. Just to add substance to that point, I was raised a free thinker and in that sense have been an Atheist all my life. I'm still an Atheist, and that stereotype doesn't imply to me at all.

[Darkhunt66]

apply*

[Delinexwow]

thank you darkhunt. apparently it wasnt that hard to understand then. hopefully you can understand it now jrmaster.

[jrmasterdebater]

deline, the only thing you have proven is your sheer ignorance for different interpretations, You say no matter how many other people share a similiar definition with me we're wrong? that's just plain IGNORANT. And if there is no awakening and everybody is a free thinker like you claim, how can people be swayed by their parents if they're ALWAYS FREE THINKERS. :)

[Delinexwow]

im saying you are using an argument that NOT MANY ATHEIST AGREE WITH. what the fuck do you not understand? how fucking hard is it to understand? i dont claim everyone is everything, im claiming FREE THINKERS IS NOT AN ATHEIST REQUIREMENT, THEIR ARE RELIGIOUS FUCKING ATHEISTS FROM BIRTH TO DEATH. what the fuck do you not get, how fucking stupid can you be? JUST like i cant say many christians agree jesus spoke to the fucking indians and use that agains you.

[jrmasterdebater]

hahaha I think somebody's ignorance is showing :) and if you really can't make an effective counter responses. You wonder why there's such a negative connotation with some atheists? look at yourself asshole. I'm done with this ad hominem attack bull shit. if you want to make an actual intelligent response then come talk to me, until then keep to yourself, sound good?

[Delinexwow]

its not ignorance and its not lack of effective counter responses, its lack of patience for someone so fucking stupid they cant see a blatent obvious response even when they have others saying yes, hes correct. you are dense, you ignore any fucking topic, and you just assert shit again and again. you have absolutely no fucking clue what you talking about. RELIGIOUS people are atheist too. what do you not get? THEY ARE NOT WHAT YOU CALL FREE THINKERS.

[Delinexwow]

and i said fucking stereotyping is wrong, what do you not fucking get? you are STEREO TYPING, in other words you are arguing against atheist, using an argument that only works for VERY FEW FUCKING ATHEIST, and acting like it holds water, IT DOESNT. ALL FUCKING CHRISTIANS ARE ALSO ATHEISTS when it comes to zeus, are they free fucking thinkers? EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN HE WORLD in an atheist in atleast one sense. they are ALL free thinkers? is it really that fucking hard to understand?

[Delinexwow]

and fuck your ad hominem bullshit, its not ad hominem, im just applying you are a fucking retard, which you are, along with the point. the argument still stands on its merits, however i just ADDED You are a fucking retard, thats not an ad hominem, you dont even know what the fuck an ad hominem is. you have NO IDEA WHAT AN ATHEIST IS.

[MilitantPeaceist]

Sorry dude.

There is not 1 atheist that is religious unless you are Buddhist. period and you can argue as much as you want and Buddhaism is not a religion as it has no deity.

Reasearch the term atheist.

I think you mean agnostic.

[Delinexwow]

no, im not, read up on the history of the word. you are an atheist if you reject zeus.

you are an atheist if you reject thor

you are an atheist if you reject apallo.

you ARE an atheist when you reject ANY GOD when it comes to that god. period.

secondly agnosticism isnt self held.

you can be an AGNOSTIC ATHEIST

or you can be an AGNOSTIC THEIST.

EXPECIALLY when it comes to a direct god.

i hate the label atheist, i PREFER agnostic when it comes to overall, however its WRONG. i am an atheist.

[MilitantPeaceist]

You can argue all you like 8)

As we are evolved, we do not look to redefine things from past events. And I have a doco on my AthiestArchive Channel that goes into it in a 18 part series.

Dawkins did classically say

"We are all atheist's, fundamentalists just take their god, 1 god further"

BUT

Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities (thats a plural)

[Delinexwow]

supreme being or beingS. sorry you fail. you can claim you are far more intelligent than all our scholars and scientists, and how they are all wrong, and how the root of the word is wrong. but in the end you are still an atheist.

i hate accepting it just as much as you do. however, we are atheists, deal with it.

you ARE an atheist. just because you do not like the definition, and what it is, doesnt mean you can change it.

[MilitantPeaceist]

HAHAHAA

Ok so we are ALL wrong and you are right.

hmmm, where have I heard that b4.

I know

Narcissism! It seems that is your main religion - you!

[Delinexwow]

you are attempting to redefine a word when its not redefined. what degrees do you have to support this?

[MilitantPeaceist]

What is the doctrine of Atheism

And education also includes theology, which is just as deluded. So qualifications are futile in this respect as you are redefining a term in which already has been displayed to you.

If you truly think I believe in no god or that I do not believe in a God - please use aristotle and tell me how that can be apparent withing the laws and science of meta-physics?

So as a person, that does not believe in ID, what am I?

You have failed at objectivity!

[Delinexwow]

i will try and explain this again.

atheist comes from greeks. a meaning without, theist means belief in god.

they called CHRISTIANS atheist because they rejected gods, EVEN THOUGH THEY BELIEVED IN CHRIST. they were without a belief in THEIR gods, therefor THEY WERE ATHEIST.

its the root of the word, the meaning of the word, and what it truly means.

agnostic can not be held by itself, i AM an agnostic atheist, very. however for any doctrine im a militant atheist.

[MilitantPeaceist]

Sorry, you've failed miserably.

And all the caps in the world will not save you!

[Delinexwow]

nice try ;), no i havnt. you can reject it all you want, but you are what ya are. deal with it, we are all atheists, and NOONE is just 'agnostic'. as much as you dream and pray we are. you arent.

agnosticism is what you KNOW

atheism and theism is what you BELIEVE.

2 different answers to two different questions. do more research.

[MilitantPeaceist]

So I believe in the belief of nothing.

Oh now your are just stupid, you cannot counter a counter. That is ridiculously insane and peer reviewed to the point of hysterical laughter!

[Delinexwow]

you believe that gods dont exist, such as jesus, zeus thor or whatever else you may reject

yes that is a belief fucktard.

atheism is NOT a belief in nothing. it may be a LACK of a belief, yet it STILL deals with what you believe, as in you do NOT believe in jesus.

and your are just stupid is not a good sentence to use to insult someones intelligence...

i countered it just fine, learn what the fuck atheism is.

[MilitantPeaceist]

I believe in peace, period

Tell me.

What is my doctrine?

[Delinexwow]

peace doesnt deal with a god. so i couldnt tell you from the lack of information, however since you didnt mention one, you are an ATHEIST. period. otherwise you just havnt mentioned a god.

[bowlsallbroken]

The Non-Aggression Principle

[bowlsallbroken]

Or maybe Pacifism.

Need for info.

[MilitantPeaceist]

I'd definately say that information and the wonders we have today to in technology and the rest is just awesom, and so epic in proportion to religion or even anything as simple as a god.

The reason why God still exists is we intrinsicly think that way, it's just how the brain works with that little inner voice (ooo I got a voice in my head) lolol( when I answer myself, I'l shoot myself XD XD XD)

[MilitantPeaceist]

And christianity believe in the trinity which is why they are shunned by the catholics as they try and worship 3 entities, Father, Son & the holy Spirit and try to conceal it as the trinity.

fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail & fail

tata

[Delinexwow]

you dont know much about christianity do you? . the father son and holy spirit are considered ONE. still considered one god. ive never heard a single christian EVER claim they were sperate, AND I WAS A CHRISTIAN.

secondly, technically, catholics are christians ;)

just a different branch of the christianity you speak of.  i do seriously hope you knew that.

[MilitantPeaceist]

you are deluded and narcissistic. I suggest you go to a psychotherapist and suggest this all to him, not me, as you are all alone in this one.

In fact argue this on the 'FightingAtheist" site please, I will meet you there!

[jrmasterdebater]

Like i asked delinex, if we are ALL free thinkers then and there is no "awakening" (which looking back now was terrible word choice haha) then why are you so torn up about parents swaying their young children. If at some point of our lives, whether it be at birth or this "awakening" when we can think for ourselves, then we would be making the choice for ourselves would we not? Either way not everybody in organized religion is a puppet :)

[Darkhunt66]

Umm, what? I'm assuming by "Awakening" you're talking about when a brainwashed christian starts to question their faith? I don't really know first hand about that, as I've already explained I was raised an Atheist, but as I understand it's a mental barrier that comes with building a faith and takes a lot of effort to click so that you can think freely again.

However, I've always been critical of Gods existence, so I can't really argue your point here.

[YouKite]

I think most religious people _sincerely_ believe in a false idea and they cannot grasp reality because of (childhood) indoctrination.

[JOKERSFREAK]

It's interesting to me that you can "ramble" on about something that at first seems irrelevant, but then it turns into something brilliant!

Great video!

[philhellenes]

If I could choose my neighbours, YOU'd be living in England. :)

[skweegie]

yeah buddy, welcome to reality.

[Rahab111222]

Drugs are bad man, I am in just one sick horrifying trip right now.

[Textra1]

I think the drug analogy is perfectly apt. Just as drugs are a shield from reality, so is religion. I often hear the religious say, "If there is no god, then there is no meaning to the universe." to which I respond, "And?" If the only reason you believe something is because you don't like the implications of the alternative, you're denying reality. It may well be that there is no ultimate meaning to the universe. Not wanting that to be so changes nothing.

[Intellisecular]

At 12:53 you mentioned that a Christian is a Christian. I agreed with your prior point. They don't care about the facts. But, what's interesting is that most Christians are followers of Paul, not JC. There were Christians who thought Paul was a fraud. Most Christians won't read (or care to hear) what Scholars like Elaine Pagels or Bart Ehrman have to say. Most don't even care about having the facts about their own Religion let alone knowing the truth.

[trumasamune]

"Shut up, it is that simple!"

lmfao

[teenspirit1]

yeah. Religion doesn't provide any moral framework. They just have a framework which somehow tries to prevent harm and does nothing to give any human centric incentives to do so.

[Deathinmusic]

I can't really watch Jack or the like. I guess it's the disrespect for reality, the dishonesty. The blatant dishonesty. If they just came right out and said they don't care about what's true, only what feels good, I could respect them more.

I always love listening to your thoughts though, even if most of this stuff has been said a thousand times before. You have a way of making it engaging.

[M0stBlunt3d]

Make more videos!!

[Katalyzt]

The christianty=drug analogy seems accurate, and very appropriate. ;O) ★★★★★

Katalyzt

[jmm1233]

religion is more of a psychological addiction like excessive gambling

where as most often but not all drugs are physical addictions like heroin

but the way religion is passed to others is more of a way drug addictions are passed through the use of peer pressure and the urge to be accepted into a particular social cultural environment and also to escape from painful reality ,

[ChaosIncarnate7]

Love the cheap smokes they got at Walgreens.

[Pentazoid111]

Since supposedly all atheists believe in science, I bet most atheists cannot understand or just recit all of the scientific laws that governed the universe or the biological laws that governed the mechanisms for sustaining life. I bet most athiests never even picked up the Origins of Species nor the Descent of man by chales darwin . So atheists who claimed that their scientific minded are just as bad as the religious guy who did not know the ten commandments.

[Arkalius80]

You're confusing the scientific method with the knowledge obtained by using it. No one, not even scientists, could have a comprehensive grasp of all of that knowledge. It's far too vast.

Cristofer's point with the guy who didn't know the ten commandments was to demonstrate that his motives were not based on his reverence for the text of the commandments, but for some need to make more ubiquitous symbols of his faith, perhaps based on some need to have his beliefs validated in this way.

[unclexbob]

"Since supposedly all atheists believe in science"

Most atheists find science fascinating, but it is not required. Just requires a bit of critical thinking

[jmm1233]

atheists don't need a book to prove reality , they have their experience of it , and every atheist will draw conclusions from the evidence of reality from the scientific method of observation , an theist needs faith and possible a book to believe in a certain religion and are told not to trust in their actual observations of reality but to trust in faith that has not independent evidence to support it , a breeder of race horses doesn't need Charles Darwin to breed horses

[Seccanzz]

"Believe in science"- like it's some kind of other religion? wtf?

[Deathinmusic]

Atheism is not a belief system, and thus doesn't have any tenets. Not all atheists understand or appreciate the value of science. You can be an atheist and believe in astrology, ghosts, all kinds of supernatural nonsense.

There's exactly one thing all atheists necessarily have in common, and it's that they have no belief in any deities.

[FenriX123]

THE ICECREAM MAN IS COMMING !

[tecnoblix]

The drug analogy was perfect, ESPECIALLY because the negative connotations fit as well! Hell, drugs do more good and have killed less people then religion has.

[AncientAtheist]

You just love to talk about the things that Christians actually *do* and actually *believe* and just shake your head, don't you?

I can't really blame you. I used to too. Not so much any more. Once in a while someone says enough dangerous bullshit that I have to mock the fuck out of their way of seeing things.

But fuck it. The Apocalypse is coming in 2012. And then in 2020. Then 2033....

[pickofthepatch]

The Aztec,and Maya calender move in circle or "gears" not a straight line as in "Western" calenders that move in a neverending straight line into the unseen future.

[xinlo]

dasamericanatheist

[Barklord]

I think the point of the original video that Jack made was that Atheism doesn't make one more free than a religious believer. There are plenty of traps that people can fall into that enslave them. I disagree with your claim that religious people avoid reality more than atheists.

[premed2]

Jack's seems to be having a lot more fun these days with his vids. Its as if he's enjoying all the attention he knows he'll get by pushing the right buttons, without really seeming to put forth much of an effort to make a point. He's really gotten so good at it, that even the great and powerful Az, sees points when instead all there really is is pointless white noise.

[Barklord]

I saw videos by an atheist drunkard and sober theist on the same day that I watched Cristofer7's vid. It was strange that the same people that liked Cris's vid also liked the drunken atheist video but laughed at Jack's vid. I really think this notion that people who believe in God are somehow more weak-minded than atheists is ridiculous.

[TheKingOfRuckus]

Man, that cheesecake comment was funny as shit. You should have named this video "Tasty Cheesecake".

[geroldkid]

Yes, the God in the Bible makes it known that he does hate humans, his own creation. If your "Creator" hates you so much, then why would you worship him? He flooded Earth, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, banished Lucifer forever an angel. I am sure fear is the root of that worship and with fear, every once in a while you will have a Fred Phelps, a Pope, or a psychoatic emerging from that root.

[mediusnacht]

6:44 Ha! I never thought of it that way. Had a good laugh over that.

[smpunditz]

Azrienoch made me laugh even though I thought he was serious.

[TheEnglishAthiest]

It's sunday morning 02;25 GMT 22 nov

Your living in the past, lol