Dr. Mercola Interviews Ron Paul (Part 3 of 4)

[tiberiandusk]

Corporations are not people!

[falltoriseagain]

Corporate lobbying is wrong, corporations funding elections is wrong, I like you Ron, but wake up.

[clintcastle]

I support Ron Paul very much but I disagree with him on this one......

[whaletones20009]

@makaisenki How very sad for you

[whaletones20009]

@makaisenki How sad for you.

[ParapaDrifter]

Aw comeon homey-o... but sure, believe the PhD's, it's working so far when we have 195k people dying in the care of hospitals, preventable deaths. They are doing something right, but, I wouldn't call it healthcare.

A surgeon says he'll fix you with a knife, a chemotherapist with chemistry, radiologist with beams. There is incentive. All I'm saying is you can cure disease with nutrition/diet. You can't gain legitimacy by labeling it "modern" or "science"

I say goodbye to your strawman attacks.

[makaisenki]

You're trying to tell me that the people who charge hundreds of dollars for reflexology and homeopathy aren't just trying to get rich? You're trying to tell me that the people who say "Wear this low powered magnet around your neck and it will cure your cancer" are not trying to get rich? LMFAO dude.

Medicine is not supposed to be taken long term. Medicine is to either cure something, or it is to supress the symptoms.

If Chicken soup works for your allergies, then use it. Otherwise use Claratin

[makaisenki]

I'm perfectly ok with people using locally grown honey to try and get past their allergies. I'm perfectly ok with people eating more fruits and vegetables and not getting sick as often.

What i have a problem with are people who make claims, that they can't back up. Like "We can hypnotize your smoking away" and then charge a ton of money. Hypnotizing is good for relaxation. It's healing effects are strictly placebo AT BEST!

Companies slap "Alternative treatment" so that their snake oil sells.

[Dudewittude]

"have alot of people with high character in congress" . Okay Ron Paul. I see what your saying. But how realistic is it!!! Who doesn't become corupt with that job name or that POWER!!!

[makaisenki]

I'm not convinced that power corrupts. I believe that the corrupt seek power. Wal-Mart's founder was a great man. Since he died it's been most of his vile bastard children who have been cutting down their wages, benefits, and other such things.

Look at John McCain. The guy was terrible in the academy, crashed multiple plains, got shot down, tortured, came back, cheated on his wife, then married an heiress and now does anything he can to counter Obama even if he was for the proposal months prior

[ParapaDrifter]

Let your medicine be your food, and your food be your medicine.

Natural medicine can be taken long term because it's food, and reinforces your natural curing systems. Endocannabinoid/immune systems

Also, you're wrong... fluoridated water is long term medicine. albeit horrible, ineffectual, hyped medicine. I also take synthroid, a life long medicine.

And yea the corrupt seek power, what does that say about the FED or the presidency? They are centralized power seats and wield much power.

[makaisenki]

Food can't be medicine. Food is just food.

It is the method in which we sustain the energy needed for life and living.

Water flouridation is no different from consuming iodized salt. I'm not going to say that eating salt is medicinal even though the iodine prevents goiters.

Also you merely used the argument of corrupt seeking power for the FED and President. What about the priests who claim an all powerful divine holy truth? What about commentators like Glenn Beck or CEOS?

[ParapaDrifter]

@makaisenki "flouridation is no different from consuming iodized salt."

Wrong again?! where do you get your responses. a pharmaceutical spam book?

Iodine is a nutrient, Fluorine isn't, it's a deadly poison (note the poison control statement on toothpaste) Evenmoreso, municipally fluoridated water is impossible to avoid! Salt is.

I take 30mg 22,000% RDA potassium iodide and I've never been more mentally coherent

"what about priests/Glenn beck"

I can choose not to participate, PERIOD!!

[makaisenki]

It was a parallel. An example. Our bodies actually require some poisons in order to survive. However the neccessary poisons we need are trace amounts. I never did say that flouride is something we should add to our water, I was merely explaining how it is an additive.

Our water should be as pure as it can be when it comes out of our faucets.

I was merely saying that eating salt is not medicinal just like drinking flouridated water is not medicinal. You somehow took that context out of there.

[ParapaDrifter]

"It was a parallel. An example. Our bodies actually require some poisons in order to survive."

Dont split hairs with me. well if you want to go the RDA route... it has established that iodine has a use thus an RDA amount.

Fluoride doesn't. How simple is that to understand? Medicine doesn't have an RDA limit, jack. I also haven't seen an LD of potassium iodide. Know it?

Care to set the definition on exactly what medicine is? Since you won't consider anything that I say.

[makaisenki]

First of all I have never defended Flouride. You keep bringing it up. I personally have said I don't approve of water flouridation. I don't know how many times you want me to repeat that.

I assume that LD means lethal dosage. But look, there are 2 types of vitamins specifically. Water soluble and fat soluble. Water soluble vitamins are very non toxic. Stuff like Vitamin C would be near impossible to overdose on. However vitamin K is fat soluble, and it can be very lethal if it is over consumed

[ParapaDrifter]

"I assume that LD means lethal dosage. But look, there are 2 types of vitamins specifically. Water soluble and fat soluble. Water soluble vitamins are very non toxic. Stuff like Vitamin C would be near impossible to overdose on. However vitamin K is fat soluble, and it can be very lethal if it is over consumed"

So, potassium iodide, it's the alkaline salt added to "iodized" sodium chloride. I may not be a chemist, but I understand chemistry.

Does it have a lethal dosage?

Medicine or nutrient?

[makaisenki]

All you seemed to do was quote 310 characters I said, add 2 quotes, and thus got left with 188 characters. Of those 188 characters none of them seemed to correlate with anything I actually said.

I don't think you understood what I said, but I also don't know how you didn't understand what I said.

So the communication breaks down to the point where I can't respond. So I"m going to restate a point.

Vitamin K will kill you if you overdose. It's Fat soluble and it's still a nutrient not medicine.

[ParapaDrifter]

Are you still going to skirt the request of me to identify what the difference between a medicine and a nutrient? That's what we were talking about.

so whats the reason fluoride kills you? I'm guessing that it's not because it's fat soluble. What are you trying to get out of this conversation? Are you here to convince me of something or just flame those who look into holistic therapy?

[ParapaDrifter]

I really wish you would identify what the difference between a medicine and a nutrient is.

"So, potassium iodide, it's the alkaline salt added to "iodized" sodium chloride. I may not be a chemist, but I understand chemistry.

Does KI2 have a lethal dosage?

Medicine or nutrient?

And yes, mercury is a neurotoxin.

[ParapaDrifter]

@makaisenki you'll thank me later for setting you straight. Iodine has also been proven to cure breast cancer. (Dr. Brownstein)

[makaisenki]

No I won't thank you for setting me straight. You've set nothing straight.

When trying to eat right and be healthy doesn't work, you need to go and try to get some sort of help when your sick. Even when you're healthy you need to check to see if there are any problems that could be prevented before they get serious.

It's not my fault htat we have one of the most broken medical industries in the industrialized world. Rather than waste money on atlernative medicines I'll just move somewhere else

[ParapaDrifter]

@makaisenki "No I won't thank you for setting me straight."

You will... look, I'm only trying to help you(and others), I'm a cancer survivor. I feel I have an obligation to help people find the facts about curing cancer. cheaply and effectively.

I've learned through my studying of the disease, that there are many cures.. and that the garbage they put cancer victims through are not cures but treatments

Trust yourself, theres' too much snake oil sold from the pharma industry, and medicine

[makaisenki]

So how serious was your cancer.

Because they don't usually chemotherapy people with stage one cancer.

Breast cancer has a 98 percent survival rate at stage 1 after treatment.

By stage 4 the survival rates go down to 20 percent.

I find it interesting that you left out both the stage of cancer you had, as well as what cured you.

Those horrible treatments you talk about are only used in later stages of cancer when it has spread throughout most of the body and are struggling to live longer.

[ParapaDrifter]

@maka I'm not sure what stage it was... but it was at the base of my skull, inoperable, around the corotid artery.

Nasopharangeal Carcinoma was the latin gibberish for it. I was treated with cisplatnin & 5-fluoracil + 7wks radiation

The ladies that came to Dr. Brownstein were terminal, or close to having a masectomy. He treated them with massive amounts of iodine and the ladies were expelling bromide/fluoride from their bodies. They lived considerably longer.

LD50 of potassium iodide?

[makaisenki]

My problem with alternative medicine is it's mostly around due to misinformation. There was a huge out cry of mercury filled teeth, and some alternative medicine NUTS were telling people to get them removed. In fact removing mercury fillings exposes you to more mercury than leaving them in so MORE harm was being done than prevented.

Everyone should want to call themselves skeptics. I've seen alternative medicine sites completely distort the word skeptic and use it with no context of its meaning

[angelodagnolo]

Vaccinations are the DEVILS work I am so convinced they are nothing but a way to kill and poison people. I have five children aged six to sixteen. My wife and I decided that we would bring them up totally naturally. Well its been a success. None of them have had any illness what so ever.(despite been apparently vulnerable) They hardly ever get a cold let alone some of the diseases my wife and I have had. Both my wife and I had vaccines as children.

Amazing, their immune system actually WORKS!

[gigiontube]

angelodagnolo ,

You are very wise people. Good for you and your children!

Best wishes!

[makaisenki]

Just don't let them get near anyone who might have polio. You do realize that we can prove without a shadow of a doubt that the increase in polio in 3rd world countries is DIRECTLY related to the fact that paranoid people are pretending that it's dangerous right?

If your kids are healthy, that's wonderful, but.. .vaccines don't kill your immune system. All they do is introduce a small portion of the disease so that your body creates the neccessary anti-bodies to be able to defend against it.

[ParapaDrifter]

@makaisenki "All they do is introduce a small portion of the disease so that your body creates the neccessary anti-bodies to be able to defend against it. "

WRONG!! WRONG ! well half wrong.

They also put adjuvants in it like squalene that kicks the immune system into high gear, (so they don't have to use as much raw virus)

Don't insult our intelligence with half-truths.

[makaisenki]

I don't know every single detail of every single ingredient added to vaccines. I'm not a medical professional. Neither are you.

I trust my skeptical sources who have medical training, and you trust your alternative medicine people, who profit from you believing them.

The experts I listen to, I don't have to pay money for their information. Nor for their expertise. They do it as a hobby. They look at the science to gain an understanding.

Mercola gives some information, then charges the rest.

[ParapaDrifter]

It doesn't matter if I'm a medical professional anymore. The net is full of information for to people who have the skill of discernment and critical thinking.

"I trust my skeptical sources who have medical training, and you trust your alternative medicine people, who profit from you believing them."

Thats a patently false statement. I've never given Mercola any money.

It's hard to trust the experts when you realize that their job depends on how they treat people, common sense.

name experts.

[thepowerofozone]

two men who make sense.

[ParapaDrifter]

The Chair of the Council of Europes Sub-committee on Health Wolfgang Wodarg said that his panels investigation into the 2009 swine flu outbreak has found that the pandemic was a hoax manufactured by pharmaceutical companies in league with the WHO to make vast profits while endangering public health.

the problem we have today is that governments all over the world have united with big corporations and news outlets. It's called fascism and we're covertly under it.

This is society's blind spot.

[ParapaDrifter]

I'm aware of the conventional wisdom surrounding small pox. But I've never been pointed to the study that supports it. Not to say it doesn't exist... but I've learned to question everything and not fall prey to the fallacy of arguing from authority. Especially from a globalist institution like the WHO.

Besides, many people did survive smallpox... what did they do to cure themselves without vaccinations?! That question lowers the hype around vaccinations.

But anyway do you have a quote in mind?

[ronheri]

Love Dr. Paul.

[marpoq]

some beautiful things were said in this segment

[statesRcountries]

If you were to count $1 every second,

it would take 36 years to count to $1 Billion.

Therefore, if you were to count $1 every second,

it would take you 36,000 years to count $1 TRILLION!!

[jaba987]

you need to pay politicians a lot more than what they are paid in order to motivate quality people to go into politics and make them less bribable.

[leafwatch]

The point is that a change of philosophy by we the people can stop politicians from giving special favors to the highest bidders. That is the only way to stop bribery. Turn off the spigot.

Make corporations work for their money by pleasing consumers instead of lining the pockets of politicians. Voters have to be responsible for electing statesmen of character rather than popularity winners who get in with lies and promises of free stuff. Government can only give what it first takes from us.

[timongarretson]

Really? Politicians aren't usually coal miners, machinists, truck drivers, teachers, nurses, or working class similar to the constituency they represent. So we should pay well-off individuals more in order to discourage them from taking more money? It tends to seem that if anyone anywhere has any amount of money they always want more.

[jaba987]

well if there is no monetary incentives then the other choice is that you will attract a bunch of crooks that will steal everything thats not nailed down. It's a necessary evil and adequate power needs to come with adequate compensation.

[timongarretson]

Might I throw out a suggestion to kick around and get some input? What if we the people reduced the role of politicians to a point of being clerks that handle, administer, and process legislation who then put it to popular vote for their district or area of representation. At this point we mandate the outcome of the vote to be the official position of the representative. That would reduce their power and hence reduce need for compensation. Where's the pitfalls in that line of thinking?

[Chrijz]

UberThink: Do you mean you want lobbyists to be banned? I don't like lobbyists, but other politicians won't ban lobbyists either...

[makaisenki]

just now? Mercola isn't very trust worthy. I subscribed to him a long time ago, because of Kevin Trudeau's book looked like it was pretty much copy and paste from Mercola's website and I didn't trust Keven Trudeau so I listened to what Mercola had to say.

At first I thought he was very practical, but the more I read his endorsements and articles, the more I questioned him. At this point he's pretty much a quack. I only noticed your post because I clicked here to ubsubscibe from this channel.

[ParapaDrifter]

Is there anything specific that you question about Dr. Mercola? Quack is such a harsh label from someone who uses only rhetoric.

Until then, you are the quack, because you don't offer anything subject to scrutiny.

[makaisenki]

Well I only have 500 characters.

But he acts as if there is no benefit what so ever from vaccines. That's intellectually dishonest at best.

I believe that he is a Homeopathy supporter. Yet another completely non scientific approach.

I'm all for stuff that works, and helps people, but there are a lot of problems I have with how he advocates stuff. He acts like modern medicine is ONLY to get wealthy and that the same does not apply to most of the alternative scam treatments like reflexology.

[ParapaDrifter]

"he acts as if there is no benefit from vaccines." ~quote? he may be criticizing the shameless hype surrounding vaccines. just look at all the hype around H1N1

Homeopathy... never heard of it.

The difference is, the scam of modern medicine has been institutionalized and ENFORCED by government decree(FDA), and they refuse to look at hollistic approaches at all, unless they can market it. ie)chemotherapy.

and I always laugh out loud at water fluoridation scam treatments. THC cures CANCER

[BlueEagle8]

Ron Paul is my president!

Dr. Mercoal is my doctor!

Freedom is beautiful and these two men are champions of freedom.

[wmike82]

Can someone put up the link to part 2?