man it's pretty annoying that such a good video is getting downrated and berated in the comments just because people don't get that the text is from keippernicus and PCS is the retarded audio. Very good video, keippernicus!
@plejeune1 Eh, it's all good. 9k views for a video that I posted when I had about 400 subs is pretty darn good. And it doesn't bother me, life is fair or just. Cest la vie.
Stupid video, pull your head out of that book, its not even good, its poorley written, and really really low of imagination, its only full of crap, the guy who wrote the scientology book had more imagination
People, Keippernicus isn't the one doing the most of the audio commentary, that's VenomfangX, he is the retard. Keippernicus is writing the red text in the video showing how fucking dumb VenomfangX is, so keep your insults directed at that brainwashed moron instead.
No matter what your 2000 year old scribblings say we do not know if the universe was created, always existed or simply came in to being. The beauty of science by not knowing we can investigate to the true origins of our universe. We have no proof that there exists anything exists outside of, as you put it , our "little naturalistic box" so why would we assume that there is? Throwing up our hands and saying we know for sure because god told me so truly retards the potential of mankind.
@DarthShepard Hi there, just wanted to let you know I just did the text and the little weasel talking about the little naturalistic box is venomfangx and not me. Cheers.
@DarthShepard - Your not very bright if you think the universe has always existed. It just can't be. Forever began sometime. Thats pretty obvious.
I like thunderfoot and his logical thinking and I like the God believers as well for certain things as well. Too bad there isnt an equal medium.
As for this video portraying thunderfoot as Hitler for believing he is right, well the dude that made this videao also BELIEVES he is right. Hitlers are everywhere huh?
@lbrex78 i was just trying to prove a point when i said the universe always existed, i do believe that the universe did have a beginning just not a super natural one. As my high school English teacher put it everyone likes to think that they are the hero of their own story even terrorists think that they are doing the right thing by killing innocents its just sad sometimes that everyone cant see eye to eye
You raised a few good points and issues that should be clarified but your trying to pull together the notion of 'god' and reality in a desperate manner. A common mistake done by many religious folk. How do you know that there is only one creator? And don't say the bible because we all know that book is a load of shit.
Time is not the measure of changes in matter, It is how humans measure change. A progression from cause to effect so to speak.
Pretty good vid - But you, nor anyone else knows what "created" the universe. So you could wonder, you can speculat, but you CANNOT prove thatpoint. (unless you want to call s/he/it quantum flux). The universe just IS.
Any religion works through faith (blind faith).Science works with provable results. It doesnt mean everythings wrong if science fail to prove it. Moreover, science concepts change sometimes. In spite of this, science is the best "friend" we do have. It works through reason. A reason not to rule out faith, but to make things clearer than they are. One can consider any religious text as metaphores. Scientiphic evolution relies on arguing. We just have to deal this matter with utmost respect.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
He pretty much said: There is an infinite amount of moments between now and 5 seconds in the future. Therefore we can never reach 5 seconds in the future. I hate these idiot arguments.
i do enjoy his quote mining, what i found a good honest discussion with 2 opposing points of view with 2 self respecting gentlemen he has turned into this argument. also the fact that thunderf00t stuttered at points suggests that he was thinking about what he was saying rather than regurgitating information and this ofc was taken out of context.
@Keippernicus i hadnt noticed it. well if thats the case then VFX is simply making fun of him for a speech impediment. how very moral of him, just what the bible teaches.
5:38 Just stupid. Nothing more to say about that one...
5:51 Stereotype!!! I love it when good moral people without sin make christians into stereotypes.
6:00 So you know what the extend of reality is? I believe the extend of reality is explained in the bible, but you don't have that which means you're just spouting BULLSHIT!
4:31 So you base your way of thinking on the opinions of the elite? So you are actually admitting that you can't think for yourself? Hope you see what I did there.
5:19 thank god, i mean big bang, that you are a moral person without sin, calling shawn a "snotty little dipshit" at the beginning of your vid. A hypocritic folks!!
3:45 It's funny how you reason WITHIN the naturalistic box that venomfangx talks about!!! I'm not doing this to make you look ridiculous, you're doing it to yourself.
4:07 Stereotype!!! Of course atheist NEVER try to look smart by defining the origins of words. But when atheist do it, it's called: logic, reasoning, backtracking and using your brain. This seperation is called discrimination. Who could "hang out with Hitler just fine" again?
That's just stupid. Pretend that because what you believe supposedly exists outside of anything and everything tangible and knowable then suddenly that somehow makes it reasonable to assert it exists sans any form of evidence.
If God exists "without time" then there is no passing between one moment and the next. Time is not like a box that anything outside of can pick and choose at which points it enters and exists, it's the passing or changing.
Seriously... You think you are able to conceive EVERYTHING? Because that's how you act. Like you know it better then (a) God. Obviously, your logic fails epicly here. You think you already understand time and everything beyond; which you think doesn't exist. This is a another example of how (most) atheists think: "We can figure out everyting by ourselves", while you can't even be sure that everything around you actually exists. THAT is just stupid. God knows better what time is then you do...
No, that is not how I act, that's your strawman of atheism you're tossing at me.
The reason why your argument fails is because it's a cheap copout for why you're apparently not supposed to give evidence, we're supposed to accept claims which defy anything and everything science knows about physics, chemistry and biology, simply because YOU believe this religion.
You're not God, you don't know your own God, you've never spoken with your God... how do YOU "know"?
I face palmed at this response. My imaginary friend knows what time is than you do too, so like there lol. and mr. bigglesworth says that its time for tea. my imaginary friend is just as real as yours >_> so i want tax exemption nao!
The sad thing is, you are pretending to know everything because you've got stocked up arguments which failed years ago because their flaws are still perfectly intact.
That, and whenever somebody tells you why they're wrong you spit in their face screaming at them that they supposedly think they know everything.
It's a failure of an attempt at any form of argument.
Your entire 'argument' boils down to "You're a hypocrite because you don't accept faith as evidence".
My last comment was posted on the wrong vid. What I want to say on this vid is: You're a thunderfoot fanboy. You follow him blindly, while a lot of your kind, atheists, think religion is blindly following (maybe you think about it that way to, which would make you hypocritical). Being the fanboy that you are, you are offended by venomfangx' arguments, and you counter them with what you think is logic. Silly, silly person... And Hitler wasn't christian, being christian is marked by how you act
"You do have a lot of good points, but I see a lot of thunderfoot fanboys, who don't want to accept that another theory might be correct"
There is no "competing theory"... the current models are the best ones so far and science is perfectly willing to adjust what they know based on new facts, much unlike certain religions which pretend that not changing when reality shows them to be wrong is a virtue.
I don't think that you should blame people for not realising what the video is about. The video is just not that well done, even though I agree with your sentiment on the situation. I had to go back to the beginning pf the video at some point to make sure that the droning voice spouting stupidity wasn't yours... (mainly because I never heard you talk before and followed this link from another video)
this video is the biggest load of fucking trash Ive ever heard in my life each and every one of you godless faggots will burn in hell for all eternity. enjoy sucking thunderf00ts cock while you can
u guys...the red text is the response, this kei guy left the original video with the original guys voice. But if u read the wording, that is the response... learn to read...wow
'Universe' Etymology = 'One Spoken Sentence'? Creationists again arriving at a loaded conclusion that points toward a Deity!
The Oxford University Press Etymology of 'Universe' however, says:
'Universe': which connects un, uni (the combining form of unus or "one") with vorsum, versum (a noun made from the perfect passive participle of vertere, meaning "something rotated, rolled, changed").[4] Lucretius used the word in the sense "everything rolled into one, everything combined into one".
I remember when thunderf00t had an apache helicopter video, explaining how the poor terrorists were nothing but innocent farmers. He spoke in extravagent ways and complicated words, but he eventually took it down after I over and over again pointed out how poor he was with common sense and logic. It was so funny when he realized he was wrong and worse, looking like a fool, ei, being exposed for being a "dumb booksmart guy" lol.
The voice over with the anti thunder foot shit is not the person who made this video it is that little twerp shawn (venomfangX) The text is commenting over the things he is saying. This is a Pro Thunderfoot video although at first i thought it was a bit confusing.
ok, do you know what is unbiased? and your arguments are false (comparing to hitler), or saying that the stone age doesn't mean anything, read a book please... (other than the bible)
Maybe you should make it more clear that this against PCS, because that seems to be causing low-ratings and hateful comments. Like the one part with "irony overload" for a second I thought you were agreeing with him. Just saying.
Religion has killed more people than it has ever saved? That makes me curious. The wars of the 20th century, mostly secular in nature (all major ones), were fought over liberal ideals such as Democracy. Are these ideas to be discounted because of these wars? What about the ideals of socialism? Are they all to be discounted because figures such as Stalin, Hilter, Pol Pot, Calles, Mao, Kim Il-sung, and others executed their own citizens for them, or are these secular ideas worthy intrinsically?
sure religion killed people, did you know that when the abortion was legalized in 1973, more than 30 million kids have been killed, thats 20 times the number of american soldiers killed in action! the Christian religion is against the abortion!
before abortion children were still aborted, just with a knitting needle, but now its safe, in a nice clean room with proper equipment and trained professionals
VFX is an idiot. Ray Comfort is an idiot. You are an idiot. Way to very typically quote mine........ which doesn't work because we have actually seen the other videos. Bible is BS. God isn't real. Grow up.
PCS sounds like an immoral piece of crap. Full of hate. He claims to be full of love yet he attacks everyone he disagrees with? Wow, I'm so glad I'm an atheist and not some war monger like PCS who starts these personal attacks on people but claims that they started it even though all they were doing was saying, this is me here I am. It's like Atheism is a target for Christians to shoot at. I don't see any atheists in Fox holes because we don't go to war for stupid causes.
if you ever watch his videos you can see he backs his belief with fact. unlike religion which is unprovable and uses stories to convey its message. If there was a god do you think the world would be unsafe? its quite easy when you think about it. Now as you say youre an atheist thats a start but i promise oyu if you watch thunderfoots videos you will see not the truth but a step towards rationality
Huh? I've watched the entire video as well as Thunderfoot's videos. I like thunderfoot. PCS sounds like a complete Facsist who has no idea what Christianity really stands for and doesn't follow his own beliefs at all. If I met PCS I would punch him in the face for being an asshole if he said anything to me about his ass backwards beliefs which are hypocritical and irrational.
Religion is bullshit no matter how you look at it and I should know..I'm an Ex Christian. Whether god exists or not..I dunno...but claiming that once has seen is is BLASPHEMY!
thunderfoot is allowed to stutter. it shows that he thought about what he was going to say before he just spewed nonsense out of his mouth. the stone age comment wasnt literal. he was comparing our current technology to the very primitive lives people led 300 years ago. why is there an entire chapter on earths creation if it was one sentence spoken. so stop lying about a mistranslation. im so glad PCS isnt online anymore.
If they are capable of speaking in layman's terms in English, and can read the language, they are fully capable of looking up any word in a dictionary and understanding its definition. Even if that means also having to look up words within those definitions that they likewise did not understand.
Demanding someone refrain from using a big word in place of a lot of small ones does not indicate a willingness to learn. Asking a person "what does X mean," or looking it up, does.
If you wish to limit your vocabulary then go right ahead. But don't then expect to be capable of understanding deep and meaningful conversations among those who do bother to expand their vocab.
JebusGeist is right. Big words convey big concepts.
"if you want to teach, teach with simplicity and illustrations. big words are only meant to impress and
prove nothing"
What if the lesson you are trying to teach them is that, when they do not understand a word or concept, they should look it up and familiarize themselves with it.
I certainly have no problem doing so myself.
Big words convey big concepts with the simplest of ease for the person stating them, and when understood they save time for all parties in a conversation.
lmao shawn!!! Naturalistic narrow minded box??? only a christian could think that way about the massive complex beautiful universe!!... a box... yeah... well down shawn... narrow minded? We don't stop people dreaming of god we stop people when they try and tell us what god wants and what gods personality is.. what a fucking retard.
"BIG WORDS" have a very important place within avant-garde communes perturbed by the desiderata for the anabasis of the perspicaciousness of the status quo of said communes.
It's not that many fossils are unavailable. It's not that we just haven't dug deep enough. They aren't there! Never have been. We should find billions of transitional fossils of organisms we never dreamed of.
The conditions required to form fossils are quite rare. Errosion destroys a lot of fossils. There are millions of fossils, however you won't find a tidy set of transitional forms from one living thing to another due to the conditions and subsequenct destruction of some fossils. The fossils may not be there, and they may never have been, but the living things obviously were.
...you seem to enjoy your ignorance so far be it from me to impose...i would suggest that to maintain your current level of happiness you never do any research ....
Stop looking at one man to demonstrate Christianity to you! My God, though, you sit back, laughing at how stupid and hypocritical you think he is, but then several of you admit to not even watching all of his content! It is true, his info is often flawed. People are not perfect. However, the belief in evolutionary origin sits upon several assumptions at the foundation which many people never feel it is prevalent to address. I am a Christian and shall always be so. I do not hide from you.
All christians tend to fail equally hard at convincing me. Some just do it with more stupidity than others. Venom is one of the stupid/mean ones. The smart/nice ones don't bother me so much because they're not the pushy little hypocrites.
I ask you, then, not to be so broad. I do not condone insulting him publicly, for morality's sake. However, I do not appreciate the Christian-bashing which goes on so often on YouTube just because of one person's flawed info. I do not blame you for that, as I have not seen any I remember at this point; the people who comment on your channel are not the kindest. I mean no offense, some are merely too blunt and presume too much, which is not a good combo. Diversity of sources is important.
I do not take offense to your opinion, and I am happy to have you share it here. But by saying don't listen to this one guy you are belittling my life experience, my education, the decade or so of my life that I WAS a christian and the long arduous journey to escape the mental shackles holding me to it.
And diversity of sources is NOT important if they are all saying the same thing.
I do not belittle you. You could not have possibly heard all there is to hear. It just isn't possible for a human being. I also do not doubt your education. I'm in high school, for Christ's sake. I'm sure you know much more than I do. Being a Christian does not make one an expert on it. Going to church doesn't make one a Christian.
Oh, and I, apparently, am not saying the same thing.
Small pet peeve. But, Creationists, universe' does not come from 'verse' as in phrase. It comes from the Latin 'vorsum', meaning something rolled up. Universe literally means rolled up into one.
Get an education, please. Like life, words don't just spring into being, remaining forever unchanged.
Anyway. I'm sure this was a great video, but I couldn't sit through Shawn's rambling. D: He just doesn't understand what he's talking about.
Keip, from what I can make out of your video, it seems to be a mismanaged dilly. Your concept of time and countability are wrong, for example. I recommend that you learn about the difference between "countably infinite" and "uncountably infinite" sets. ☺
Me, a Glen Beck fan? No, I think Beck is a nut.. I watch Beck videos only to keep track of his nuttiness, and because his foolishness is could have serious negative consequences for the United States. I pray to God that doesn't happen.
I don't know, did I misunderstand your video? I'll have to watch it again. ☺
Don't you just love how Creationists like VFX like to take other people's words to assume the opposite of what that person was intending to mean? This isn't knowledge, this is failed reason at its pinnacle, which is something only VFX is capable of.
Here's how to identify an unquestioning Christian: He feels so insulted when scientists mention the possibility of evolution and diversity from lesser life forms, yet he fully supports the Biblical claim that mankind was made from DIRT.
Well done Keippernicus! Having to sit through a PCS video, and then chop bits out of it to make this one... it makes me weep just thinking about it. I usually laugh at Shawn for the first minute, vomit for the next one and then stop watching the unbearable creep.
he was making a comparison between stone-age and the dark ages, for they both have lousy science
94jmcorrea 1 year ago
irony and sarcasm are lost on fundamentalists
AryannaDeSade 1 year ago
Stop quoting out of context Goddamn it!
supersmash43 1 year ago
lol venomfang x forgets he challenged thunderf00t to a debate
mastaODI56 1 year ago
this dude is a complete fucking idiot
MrShroomtits 1 year ago
man it's pretty annoying that such a good video is getting downrated and berated in the comments just because people don't get that the text is from keippernicus and PCS is the retarded audio. Very good video, keippernicus!
plejeune1 1 year ago
@plejeune1 Eh, it's all good. 9k views for a video that I posted when I had about 400 subs is pretty darn good. And it doesn't bother me, life is fair or just. Cest la vie.
Keippernicus 1 year ago
venomfangx is just pist of his shlong is an inch long .hey id be pissed of 2 lol
swimminglikeaquaman 1 year ago
I think you both need to go back to school....if this is what you call logical argument its pretty pathetic.
OurForcedReality 1 year ago
I think you both need to go back to school....if this is what you call logical argument its pretty pathetic.
OurForcedReality 1 year ago
Big Brother is Jesus and God the Party... welcome to 1984´s hell world
Friederik1010011010 1 year ago
Damn fine video...damn fine
theboytiger 1 year ago
Stupid video, pull your head out of that book, its not even good, its poorley written, and really really low of imagination, its only full of crap, the guy who wrote the scientology book had more imagination
Danovio 1 year ago
Pfew, definitely something wrong with that Venom retard...
wimkellers 1 year ago
People, Keippernicus isn't the one doing the most of the audio commentary, that's VenomfangX, he is the retard. Keippernicus is writing the red text in the video showing how fucking dumb VenomfangX is, so keep your insults directed at that brainwashed moron instead.
Myskuk 1 year ago
lol Tunderfoot is right. I can see that you know how point out someones stutter but that is about it.
MultiInkspot 1 year ago
No matter what your 2000 year old scribblings say we do not know if the universe was created, always existed or simply came in to being. The beauty of science by not knowing we can investigate to the true origins of our universe. We have no proof that there exists anything exists outside of, as you put it , our "little naturalistic box" so why would we assume that there is? Throwing up our hands and saying we know for sure because god told me so truly retards the potential of mankind.
DarthShepard 1 year ago
@DarthShepard Hi there, just wanted to let you know I just did the text and the little weasel talking about the little naturalistic box is venomfangx and not me. Cheers.
Keippernicus 1 year ago 3
@Keippernicus oh i thought that stuck up voice was familiar :)
DarthShepard 1 year ago
@DarthShepard - Your not very bright if you think the universe has always existed. It just can't be. Forever began sometime. Thats pretty obvious.
I like thunderfoot and his logical thinking and I like the God believers as well for certain things as well. Too bad there isnt an equal medium.
As for this video portraying thunderfoot as Hitler for believing he is right, well the dude that made this videao also BELIEVES he is right. Hitlers are everywhere huh?
As for
lbrex78 1 year ago
@lbrex78 i was just trying to prove a point when i said the universe always existed, i do believe that the universe did have a beginning just not a super natural one. As my high school English teacher put it everyone likes to think that they are the hero of their own story even terrorists think that they are doing the right thing by killing innocents its just sad sometimes that everyone cant see eye to eye
DarthShepard 1 year ago
Keippernicus is an idiot
antoshahorosha 1 year ago
thumbs down this vid sucks.
wayneqjr 1 year ago
You raised a few good points and issues that should be clarified but your trying to pull together the notion of 'god' and reality in a desperate manner. A common mistake done by many religious folk. How do you know that there is only one creator? And don't say the bible because we all know that book is a load of shit.
Time is not the measure of changes in matter, It is how humans measure change. A progression from cause to effect so to speak.
Sorry shit taken out of your idiot doesn't count.
tapthepope 1 year ago 3
@tapthepope You seem to have mistaken me for venomfangx, I just did the text. And I am an atheist.
Keippernicus 1 year ago 3
@Keippernicus
Oh haha. My mistake.
tapthepope 1 year ago
fuck you
MrDevenLay 1 year ago
@MrDevenLay Top or bottom?
Keippernicus 1 year ago 3
LOL
murrymurrymurrymurry 1 year ago
this video is stupid.
themaybatatter 1 year ago
@themaybatatter So is your mom.
Keippernicus 1 year ago
@Keippernicus I know you are but what am I?
themaybatatter 1 year ago
irony
frostzor 1 year ago
Pretty good vid - But you, nor anyone else knows what "created" the universe. So you could wonder, you can speculat, but you CANNOT prove thatpoint. (unless you want to call s/he/it quantum flux). The universe just IS.
ccollymore 1 year ago
Always entertaining! :D
(PBURLS)
Praise Be Upon Reason, Logic, and Science
teapotinORBIT 1 year ago
I'm pretty fucking sure that Thunderfoot is wrong about ice meteors, physics genetics, morals, organisms, etc, etc.
FUCK YOU, AND YOUR BULLSHIT
minborox 1 year ago
@minborox Why are you pretty fucking sure of all that? And was that fuck you directed at me or the f00t?
Keippernicus 1 year ago
@Keippernicus
At the maker of the damn video.
Not speaking up for ThunderFoot, or something.
But I am not sure about your stance on evolution or physics or creation.
I don't care whether or not you hate f00t, But if you insult SCIENCE, YOUR MESSING WITH ME!!!
Cuz it's my career.
minborox 1 year ago
@Keippernicus
Previous comment was sacarsm, btw
minborox 1 year ago
@minborox Curious fellow.
Keippernicus 1 year ago
@Keippernicus
I am also retarded, for your info.
minborox 1 year ago
Very good bro...religion is evil...
superwhuffo1 1 year ago
Any religion works through faith (blind faith).Science works with provable results. It doesnt mean everythings wrong if science fail to prove it. Moreover, science concepts change sometimes. In spite of this, science is the best "friend" we do have. It works through reason. A reason not to rule out faith, but to make things clearer than they are. One can consider any religious text as metaphores. Scientiphic evolution relies on arguing. We just have to deal this matter with utmost respect.
xando801 1 year ago
silly xian, fear what you don't understand! lol
Boudiga 1 year ago
calling thunderfoot a hypocrite for being narrow minded is very hypocritical
sizzlorr4 1 year ago
this is sort of missing the point, bit like most americans
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I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
thoughtraid 1 year ago
He pretty much said: There is an infinite amount of moments between now and 5 seconds in the future. Therefore we can never reach 5 seconds in the future. I hate these idiot arguments.
heroicjanitor 1 year ago
i do enjoy his quote mining, what i found a good honest discussion with 2 opposing points of view with 2 self respecting gentlemen he has turned into this argument. also the fact that thunderf00t stuttered at points suggests that he was thinking about what he was saying rather than regurgitating information and this ofc was taken out of context.
fulmetalmage 1 year ago
@fulmetalmage I think Tf00t stuttered because he stutters in general. I'm not 100% sure about that though.
Keippernicus 1 year ago
@Keippernicus i hadnt noticed it. well if thats the case then VFX is simply making fun of him for a speech impediment. how very moral of him, just what the bible teaches.
fulmetalmage 1 year ago
Religious hypocrisy, where would we be without you?
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
5:38 Just stupid. Nothing more to say about that one...
5:51 Stereotype!!! I love it when good moral people without sin make christians into stereotypes.
6:00 So you know what the extend of reality is? I believe the extend of reality is explained in the bible, but you don't have that which means you're just spouting BULLSHIT!
Settlers6 1 year ago
4:31 So you base your way of thinking on the opinions of the elite? So you are actually admitting that you can't think for yourself? Hope you see what I did there.
4:46 and 4:55 = crooked thinking
5:19 thank god, i mean big bang, that you are a moral person without sin, calling shawn a "snotty little dipshit" at the beginning of your vid. A hypocritic folks!!
Settlers6 1 year ago
3:45 It's funny how you reason WITHIN the naturalistic box that venomfangx talks about!!! I'm not doing this to make you look ridiculous, you're doing it to yourself.
4:07 Stereotype!!! Of course atheist NEVER try to look smart by defining the origins of words. But when atheist do it, it's called: logic, reasoning, backtracking and using your brain. This seperation is called discrimination. Who could "hang out with Hitler just fine" again?
Settlers6 1 year ago
That's just stupid. Pretend that because what you believe supposedly exists outside of anything and everything tangible and knowable then suddenly that somehow makes it reasonable to assert it exists sans any form of evidence.
If God exists "without time" then there is no passing between one moment and the next. Time is not like a box that anything outside of can pick and choose at which points it enters and exists, it's the passing or changing.
If God's without time, he's without thought.
sonic8005 1 year ago
Seriously... You think you are able to conceive EVERYTHING? Because that's how you act. Like you know it better then (a) God. Obviously, your logic fails epicly here. You think you already understand time and everything beyond; which you think doesn't exist. This is a another example of how (most) atheists think: "We can figure out everyting by ourselves", while you can't even be sure that everything around you actually exists. THAT is just stupid. God knows better what time is then you do...
Settlers6 1 year ago
@Settlers6
No, that is not how I act, that's your strawman of atheism you're tossing at me.
The reason why your argument fails is because it's a cheap copout for why you're apparently not supposed to give evidence, we're supposed to accept claims which defy anything and everything science knows about physics, chemistry and biology, simply because YOU believe this religion.
You're not God, you don't know your own God, you've never spoken with your God... how do YOU "know"?
sonic8005 1 year ago
I face palmed at this response. My imaginary friend knows what time is than you do too, so like there lol. and mr. bigglesworth says that its time for tea. my imaginary friend is just as real as yours >_> so i want tax exemption nao!
mistereveready 1 year ago
And God DID exist before time. How? BECAUSE HE IS AN OMNIPOTENT BEING. THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT A GOD!
Settlers6 1 year ago
@Settlers6
The sad thing is, you are pretending to know everything because you've got stocked up arguments which failed years ago because their flaws are still perfectly intact.
That, and whenever somebody tells you why they're wrong you spit in their face screaming at them that they supposedly think they know everything.
It's a failure of an attempt at any form of argument.
Your entire 'argument' boils down to "You're a hypocrite because you don't accept faith as evidence".
sonic8005 1 year ago
My last comment was posted on the wrong vid. What I want to say on this vid is: You're a thunderfoot fanboy. You follow him blindly, while a lot of your kind, atheists, think religion is blindly following (maybe you think about it that way to, which would make you hypocritical). Being the fanboy that you are, you are offended by venomfangx' arguments, and you counter them with what you think is logic. Silly, silly person... And Hitler wasn't christian, being christian is marked by how you act
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Settlers6 1 year ago
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"You do have a lot of good points, but I see a lot of thunderfoot fanboys, who don't want to accept that another theory might be correct"
There is no "competing theory"... the current models are the best ones so far and science is perfectly willing to adjust what they know based on new facts, much unlike certain religions which pretend that not changing when reality shows them to be wrong is a virtue.
sonic8005 1 year ago
You are trying too hard, probably because he hurt your feelings.
You are intentionally misinterpreting him, and yes he is harsh but that is only because he is frustrated.
Relax and it will come to you.
mostermand 1 year ago
What will come to me exactly?
Keippernicus 1 year ago
Your reasonable arguments for the creationistic point of view.
mostermand 1 year ago
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@Keippernicus Sorry for the long response time I've been away.
"What will come to me exactly? " Your reasonable argument against atheism.
btw I am an atheist so I do not actualy think you will succeed, but I respect people's opinions anyway
mostermand 1 year ago
Let there be dumb and PCS appeared, and god facepalmed for it was not good.
OMFG :D :D :D LOL!!!!
iscay666 1 year ago
Sick man just sick...
SmalltimR 1 year ago
i see the silly boy is back, fing love this dude he gives me so many laughs.
f8tty 1 year ago 6
Great Vid!
Although I didn't get it at first that it was PCS talking.
continue the good work!
mfg
Gmc
Godsmadconscience 1 year ago
This video comment is rediculous. Your taking the things out context trying to prove your point by arguing symantics.
Danomytus 1 year ago
another religious fundamentalist ranting about nothing. what a waste of time!
Brettsky8 2 years ago 12
I don't think that you should blame people for not realising what the video is about. The video is just not that well done, even though I agree with your sentiment on the situation. I had to go back to the beginning pf the video at some point to make sure that the droning voice spouting stupidity wasn't yours... (mainly because I never heard you talk before and followed this link from another video)
XXIstCenturyBoy 2 years ago
this video is the biggest load of fucking trash Ive ever heard in my life each and every one of you godless faggots will burn in hell for all eternity. enjoy sucking thunderf00ts cock while you can
greener69er 2 years ago
Hey troll, have a donut.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
Oooooooooooh, an ANGRY Christian!
archemedes314 2 years ago
nah we really wont. fucking loser. grow up
bojoben 1 year ago
you need to calm down sir "he who is with out sin" remember that.
kfmapguy 1 year ago
u guys...the red text is the response, this kei guy left the original video with the original guys voice. But if u read the wording, that is the response... learn to read...wow
explos1ve13 2 years ago
THANK YOU!!!!!
Keippernicus 2 years ago
Your such a tw*t. get a life you religious loser, or better yet end it.
MrGuyak 2 years ago 2
Should have watched it with annotations on, smart guy.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
'Universe' Etymology = 'One Spoken Sentence'? Creationists again arriving at a loaded conclusion that points toward a Deity!
The Oxford University Press Etymology of 'Universe' however, says:
'Universe': which connects un, uni (the combining form of unus or "one") with vorsum, versum (a noun made from the perfect passive participle of vertere, meaning "something rotated, rolled, changed").[4] Lucretius used the word in the sense "everything rolled into one, everything combined into one".
Cardiffdance 2 years ago
The bible is the ultimate box.
fatouche99 2 years ago
Well spoken, what do you think of his lame apology?
Keippernicus 2 years ago
I remember when thunderf00t had an apache helicopter video, explaining how the poor terrorists were nothing but innocent farmers. He spoke in extravagent ways and complicated words, but he eventually took it down after I over and over again pointed out how poor he was with common sense and logic. It was so funny when he realized he was wrong and worse, looking like a fool, ei, being exposed for being a "dumb booksmart guy" lol.
matt3794 2 years ago
Still smarter than you, probably me too.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
smarter in school, yes, common sense, no.
matt3794 2 years ago
Overanalyzing and misquoting you're lame
LooneyLopez 2 years ago
Lol
Chi3fSoku 2 years ago
your point is gay.
another moron
kaee81 2 years ago
Thanks for your insight.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
@kaee81 wow.....nice rebuttle
pillarmusicrocks 2 years ago
You make me lol. Seriously... no one really cares... besides jaskass trolls like myself.
If thunderfoot pisses you off, go kill yourself... or something.
TeresaPiers 2 years ago
This is a pro-thunderf00t video, smart person.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
Your the idiot Kei.
13baldjj 2 years ago
The voice over with the anti thunder foot shit is not the person who made this video it is that little twerp shawn (venomfangX) The text is commenting over the things he is saying. This is a Pro Thunderfoot video although at first i thought it was a bit confusing.
manbearpig900 2 years ago 2
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herzglass 2 years ago
Oh good someone else who didn't pay enough attention to realize that this is a PRO thunderf00t video.
Thanks for actually paying attention.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
LOL =D
<.< im dumb then^^
herzglass 2 years ago
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herzglass 2 years ago
The Bible proves nothing! The Bible only tells us what is written in the Bible!
cclpa712 2 years ago
ok, do you know what is unbiased? and your arguments are false (comparing to hitler), or saying that the stone age doesn't mean anything, read a book please... (other than the bible)
shirubana 2 years ago
Maybe you should make it more clear that this against PCS, because that seems to be causing low-ratings and hateful comments. Like the one part with "irony overload" for a second I thought you were agreeing with him. Just saying.
NerdySarcasm 2 years ago
You are insane... simply that, your insane, religion killed more people it will ever save... Face it, you don't know anything about anything, shut up
Shortact 2 years ago
Religion has killed more people than it has ever saved? That makes me curious. The wars of the 20th century, mostly secular in nature (all major ones), were fought over liberal ideals such as Democracy. Are these ideas to be discounted because of these wars? What about the ideals of socialism? Are they all to be discounted because figures such as Stalin, Hilter, Pol Pot, Calles, Mao, Kim Il-sung, and others executed their own citizens for them, or are these secular ideas worthy intrinsically?
shadowdragon970 2 years ago
sure religion killed people, did you know that when the abortion was legalized in 1973, more than 30 million kids have been killed, thats 20 times the number of american soldiers killed in action! the Christian religion is against the abortion!
thejmg9 2 years ago
before abortion children were still aborted, just with a knitting needle, but now its safe, in a nice clean room with proper equipment and trained professionals
IbeeejayI 2 years ago
sure that makes abortion to be right, the mother doesn´t suffer but the kid gets killed!
well done!!!
thejmg9 2 years ago
Rather have an unborn fetus die than both.
IbeeejayI 2 years ago
unborn fetus have life any way!
thejmg9 2 years ago
Doesn't matter, if you value life you would want to save both. What about ectopic pregnancies?
IbeeejayI 2 years ago
i like how you cut out ray being a retard for 60 minutes, your argument is so stupid. you dont know this so god did it, dumb logic
eradius 2 years ago
Yeah, you know I just put in the text part and it was VFX who was smearing thunderf00t right?
Keippernicus 2 years ago
You suck...
FTarquin 2 years ago
Any time!
Keippernicus 2 years ago
attack the beliefs, not the person.
MicahBuzan 2 years ago
VFX is an idiot. Ray Comfort is an idiot. You are an idiot. Way to very typically quote mine........ which doesn't work because we have actually seen the other videos. Bible is BS. God isn't real. Grow up.
brianhclark 2 years ago
PCS sounds like an immoral piece of crap. Full of hate. He claims to be full of love yet he attacks everyone he disagrees with? Wow, I'm so glad I'm an atheist and not some war monger like PCS who starts these personal attacks on people but claims that they started it even though all they were doing was saying, this is me here I am. It's like Atheism is a target for Christians to shoot at. I don't see any atheists in Fox holes because we don't go to war for stupid causes.
artblack01 2 years ago
if you ever watch his videos you can see he backs his belief with fact. unlike religion which is unprovable and uses stories to convey its message. If there was a god do you think the world would be unsafe? its quite easy when you think about it. Now as you say youre an atheist thats a start but i promise oyu if you watch thunderfoots videos you will see not the truth but a step towards rationality
DrumsandSoccerFan19 2 years ago 2
Huh? I've watched the entire video as well as Thunderfoot's videos. I like thunderfoot. PCS sounds like a complete Facsist who has no idea what Christianity really stands for and doesn't follow his own beliefs at all. If I met PCS I would punch him in the face for being an asshole if he said anything to me about his ass backwards beliefs which are hypocritical and irrational.
artblack01 2 years ago
PCS makes me more ashamed to be Canadian then Paul Bernardo and Celin Dion Combined.
soulinite 2 years ago
My god! how do you get out of bed in the morning!?
BlakeimusMaximus 2 years ago
It's not easy dude.
soulinite 2 years ago
We're glad you do it, the US just wouldn't be the same without canada.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
PCS is a piece of creationist shit.
soulinite 2 years ago
This video is stupid...
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
agreed i think this guy wants subscribers badly
Akirilus 2 years ago
I was like..ok..he's doing good" and then BAM!....BS all the way LOL
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
How so? I like feedback.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
Religion is bullshit no matter how you look at it and I should know..I'm an Ex Christian. Whether god exists or not..I dunno...but claiming that once has seen is is BLASPHEMY!
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
4:18 had me laughing hard... thanks for that =D
mysadending 2 years ago
thunderfoot is allowed to stutter. it shows that he thought about what he was going to say before he just spewed nonsense out of his mouth. the stone age comment wasnt literal. he was comparing our current technology to the very primitive lives people led 300 years ago. why is there an entire chapter on earths creation if it was one sentence spoken. so stop lying about a mistranslation. im so glad PCS isnt online anymore.
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago 6
many intelligent people stutter in the same way they have untidy handwriting. they think faster than they can speak or write.
360cbh 2 years ago
true but i think it was a combo of first time in live debate, possibly, and making sure he didnt give creationist a reason to pick on evolution more.
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago
Ahh at first i didnt listen to the start and i was furious xD But im glad you have shown Shawn and his true colours :D Good job :D
jonjon2392 2 years ago
Thunderfoot also stated he stuttered a lot because it was his first debate. I wonder how many times Mr Shawn had to think before he started recording
questionsamson 2 years ago
thunderfoot stuttered because thunderfoot stutters, not because he needs practice. He did a fine job.
rddaos 2 years ago
I didn't know that I am just starting to view his vids
questionsamson 2 years ago
i do give pcs credit for not being an obnoxious little cam whore in this video
Poloapzy 2 years ago
The bit where he takes the mick out of TF's stutter... that's just low. Shawn, if you're reading this, go crawl in a hole and die, cunt.
JensonsBeard 2 years ago
Keippernicus,
my apologies. I mistook the audio as your voice.
agent0sephiroth 2 years ago
Hey, it happens dude no sweat. The only time I talk is at the end of Part 2 to this video.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
This stance is so retarded.
You assert the world has a beginning solely,
because some 2000 year old book declared
that there was a god? lmao. Science is disciplined in what it says. It refers to evidence
instead of referring to empty declarations like
god to explain events. Time for you to wake up!
agent0sephiroth 2 years ago
If they are capable of speaking in layman's terms in English, and can read the language, they are fully capable of looking up any word in a dictionary and understanding its definition. Even if that means also having to look up words within those definitions that they likewise did not understand.
Demanding someone refrain from using a big word in place of a lot of small ones does not indicate a willingness to learn. Asking a person "what does X mean," or looking it up, does.
JebusGeist 2 years ago
If you wish to limit your vocabulary then go right ahead. But don't then expect to be capable of understanding deep and meaningful conversations among those who do bother to expand their vocab.
JebusGeist is right. Big words convey big concepts.
Pinage 2 years ago
"if you want to teach, teach with simplicity and illustrations. big words are only meant to impress and
prove nothing"
What if the lesson you are trying to teach them is that, when they do not understand a word or concept, they should look it up and familiarize themselves with it.
I certainly have no problem doing so myself.
Big words convey big concepts with the simplest of ease for the person stating them, and when understood they save time for all parties in a conversation.
JebusGeist 2 years ago
Proper punctuation fail. There should be a question mark at the end of my first sentence.
JebusGeist 2 years ago
Get em, grammar ninja attack!
Keippernicus 2 years ago
lmao shawn!!! Naturalistic narrow minded box??? only a christian could think that way about the massive complex beautiful universe!!... a box... yeah... well down shawn... narrow minded? We don't stop people dreaming of god we stop people when they try and tell us what god wants and what gods personality is.. what a fucking retard.
happyhappy85 2 years ago
Yah, and Evolutionists try and sounds SMART by using BIG WORDS that really go no place. Just baffling with BS.
AmericasSoapBox 2 years ago
"BIG WORDS" have a very important place within avant-garde communes perturbed by the desiderata for the anabasis of the perspicaciousness of the status quo of said communes.
Pinage 2 years ago
It's not that many fossils are unavailable. It's not that we just haven't dug deep enough. They aren't there! Never have been. We should find billions of transitional fossils of organisms we never dreamed of.
AmericasSoapBox 2 years ago
How do you know that the fossils are not there?
drServitus 2 years ago
The conditions required to form fossils are quite rare. Errosion destroys a lot of fossils. There are millions of fossils, however you won't find a tidy set of transitional forms from one living thing to another due to the conditions and subsequenct destruction of some fossils. The fossils may not be there, and they may never have been, but the living things obviously were.
boggisthecat 2 years ago
fossil record = robust
transitional fossils = found
...you seem to enjoy your ignorance so far be it from me to impose...i would suggest that to maintain your current level of happiness you never do any research ....
UncertainTruth 2 years ago
totally agree wuth you man!
thejmg9 2 years ago
Stop looking at one man to demonstrate Christianity to you! My God, though, you sit back, laughing at how stupid and hypocritical you think he is, but then several of you admit to not even watching all of his content! It is true, his info is often flawed. People are not perfect. However, the belief in evolutionary origin sits upon several assumptions at the foundation which many people never feel it is prevalent to address. I am a Christian and shall always be so. I do not hide from you.
Dethiuste 2 years ago
All christians tend to fail equally hard at convincing me. Some just do it with more stupidity than others. Venom is one of the stupid/mean ones. The smart/nice ones don't bother me so much because they're not the pushy little hypocrites.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
I ask you, then, not to be so broad. I do not condone insulting him publicly, for morality's sake. However, I do not appreciate the Christian-bashing which goes on so often on YouTube just because of one person's flawed info. I do not blame you for that, as I have not seen any I remember at this point; the people who comment on your channel are not the kindest. I mean no offense, some are merely too blunt and presume too much, which is not a good combo. Diversity of sources is important.
Dethiuste 2 years ago
I do not take offense to your opinion, and I am happy to have you share it here. But by saying don't listen to this one guy you are belittling my life experience, my education, the decade or so of my life that I WAS a christian and the long arduous journey to escape the mental shackles holding me to it.
And diversity of sources is NOT important if they are all saying the same thing.
Keippernicus 2 years ago
I do not belittle you. You could not have possibly heard all there is to hear. It just isn't possible for a human being. I also do not doubt your education. I'm in high school, for Christ's sake. I'm sure you know much more than I do. Being a Christian does not make one an expert on it. Going to church doesn't make one a Christian.
Oh, and I, apparently, am not saying the same thing.
Dethiuste 2 years ago
Ray is a lightweight next to thunderfoot.
ExtremeModerate77 2 years ago
Small pet peeve. But, Creationists, universe' does not come from 'verse' as in phrase. It comes from the Latin 'vorsum', meaning something rolled up. Universe literally means rolled up into one.
Get an education, please. Like life, words don't just spring into being, remaining forever unchanged.
Anyway. I'm sure this was a great video, but I couldn't sit through Shawn's rambling. D: He just doesn't understand what he's talking about.
RestlessThoughts 2 years ago
Keip, from what I can make out of your video, it seems to be a mismanaged dilly. Your concept of time and countability are wrong, for example. I recommend that you learn about the difference between "countably infinite" and "uncountably infinite" sets. ☺
upsilon054 2 years ago
That's worth a one star rating to you? And you're a Glenn Beck fan. Right...
Keippernicus 2 years ago
Me, a Glen Beck fan? No, I think Beck is a nut.. I watch Beck videos only to keep track of his nuttiness, and because his foolishness is could have serious negative consequences for the United States. I pray to God that doesn't happen.
I don't know, did I misunderstand your video? I'll have to watch it again. ☺
upsilon054 2 years ago
ppl like you never seem to learn their lesson... just accept defeat!
mrvrabie 2 years ago
penis
pieceofparadox 2 years ago
4 : 54
Don't you just love how Creationists like VFX like to take other people's words to assume the opposite of what that person was intending to mean? This isn't knowledge, this is failed reason at its pinnacle, which is something only VFX is capable of.
Here's how to identify an unquestioning Christian: He feels so insulted when scientists mention the possibility of evolution and diversity from lesser life forms, yet he fully supports the Biblical claim that mankind was made from DIRT.
whippersnippingprick 2 years ago
so this shawn guy has returned to youtube..
JoelDeniro 2 years ago
Well done Keippernicus! Having to sit through a PCS video, and then chop bits out of it to make this one... it makes me weep just thinking about it. I usually laugh at Shawn for the first minute, vomit for the next one and then stop watching the unbearable creep.
Gorteenminogue 2 years ago
Ok first off thunderf00t is useing "stoneage" as a metafor for how primitive sicence was 300 years ago.
Just like when you say that someone is "stuck in the past" that they "are living in the stoneage"
Your 2nd comment is also irelevant i will simply refer to the "achilles and the turtoise" paradox GOOGLE it
3rd the word universe originates from times when people belived in god. But the meaning has changed since then.
Y-y-you are a hypocrite.
I apologize for my spelling.
Alfaomegabravo 2 years ago
Only Religion contradicts logic and science.
KaIVIikaz3 2 years ago
Dont argue with kids,thunder foot! Its pointless and Frustrating. Fight the good fight and stand up to ignorance. Power to you brother!!!!!!!
jimjimyaitshim 2 years ago
Hitler was raised a Catholic, but became a 'pagan', or non specific theist (he believed in a higher power), as he alludes to in Mein Kampf.
aPaThEiSt 2 years ago