Actually Azen's Marth is the only one that consistently beat KDJ's Sheik. He beat him in the MLG events they played at and again at Viva La Smashtaclysm. It probably helped that Azen used to main Sheik though.
KDJ did beat Ken at MLG but if I'm not mistaken Ken did beat him right after that at OC and won the tourney. Then after that he did that whole not really playing thing and only showing up to random Cali tournies.
dude, i don't think you realize how hard it is to levy for position against these kinds of players.
the ledge guarding is just the conclusion to a long string of mini-battles. that's like judging...i dunno...a chess game by saying "professional chess players ALWAYS end their games with the king not being able to move."
reaper ive won tournis too.i thought i was as good as these guys,until i played them.ur prolly some ugly ass acne ridden piece of garbage.great you can play melee well by your standards.and you bitch like a little kid about how these kids suck ken's dick.but i bet the only way you would beat these guys in person would be because of your own rancid breath.because it has the distinct horrid odor of your own uncircumcised dick.the little kid in ET would have shortenedthis commentby shutupenisbreth!
You would have been 4-stocked by Ken in a heartbeat, G6Reaper. He's one of the finest Marth players in the world, and you're some random nobody on Youtube. He'd destroy you.
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it's a fucking videogame you dumb bitch, it's access-able to anyone with money, and you've never seen me play, I'm not going to try to convince you with words, you'd have to see to believe. But I can tell you this, I got this game the day it came out seven years ago and played it at least once every week for hours on end until brawl came out. I wasted so much of my time on that game, that it would be stupid for someone to assume that I don't know what I'm doing or talking about.
If you were any good, you'd be playing on the tournament scene. You're like some drunk guy in the bleachers that thinks he can hit better than Barry Bonds. You're only talking yourself into a corner, so I'd suggest you quit while you're behind.
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Before you reply to my last comment let me say something, it's been made very clear that you and I aren't going to agree on this subject, fair enough. I can see that you're ken's own personal fangirl, good for you. However, the fact of the matter is I'm not going to continue to argue with an ignorant ass kisser, who has no skill of his own. If you want to keep living through someone elses success, than hunt ken down and literally suck his dick like a two dollar hooker, you fucking faggot. STFU.
Also, if he thinks Ken is good and because of that he's "Ken's personal cocksucker", then if we apply that to you, doesn't that mean you blow yourself?
it's just a game. calm down. o.0 this video is pretty old. besides, ken hardly plays the game anymore.
that being said, melee isn't just about how long you've had the game or how often you play. it's a lot about experience and learning how to react to situations that others put you in. if you haven't been in a tournament scene, you'd probably be susceptible to such trickery and mindgames that videos can't show.
it's easy to watch, but it's completely different when you play them.
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I've competed in tournaments just not major league gaming tournaments, and Believe me I have experience. And as far as mind games go, I wooped one guy so bad, that he flipped out and killed himself on purpose. I'm not going to deny that ken is skilled, but I get tired of these losers who are constantly kissing his ass. I'm not sure about the rest of these people, but I'm a confident person with skill to back it up, and you don't win a match by thinking you've already lost.
You don't seem to understand my objection, yet. You're claiming that you're better than one of the best Melee Marth players in the world. In the WORLD.
I'm saying that you have to be pretty damned full of yourself to make such a claim, and I have an extremely hard time believing some random person on the Internet making such a claim.
commentators in general make watching a little more enjoyable, sometimes i don't bother to watch something if its not commentated cuz listening to the bgm and smacking isn't very engaging.
2:39, mistake with the upsmash which should've been a forward smash
2:55 2 steps to the right into an f-smash would have tipped and killed
In all the matches i've seen, his big mistakes always cost him the match
yes, even at his worst ken would still 100stock me, but thats beside the point.
great vid, i play as c. falcon and marth i can l cancel wave dash not to badly, but when you see this style of play it's kinda out of our leagues, especialy how ken tries to 'trap' you very gd :)
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Ken could have won that, he was too buisy showing off his button controll that he didnt fo in for the kill. He had over 4 chances where shiek couldnt dodge or block and she had high percentage, he could have simply smashed and boom, but NooooOOOOOooo! I wanna challenge him so bad =.= Hehe, ive fought soooo many good ppl in this game and so far only one or 2 can keep up with me.
lol where do you live? if its anywhere besides VA/MD, CA, or Chicago (which i know its not) then you pretty much need to stop talking as those "one or two people" who can keep up with you are probably bad players. Ken wasnt showing off his button control, he was trying to trick KDJ into going into a bad spot, or checkmate if you will.
think of chess, do you just send all your guys after the king from get go? no, if you did you would lose all your guys and they would win. you strategize, and then you put the king into tough spots with only a few options, and then you trap him. thats how Ken's style is, and if you think you can beat him without even realizing this, you might as well quit now, because you will get owned hard.
lol, don't forget about NJ >_> M2K is there, xD. Not to mention Eggm, Reik, Tec0, Magus, and....well, w/e that's not the point, xD. Yeah, Ken isn't easily beaten, despite what it may "look" like. You could see someone get 4-stocked on video, play them, and get 4-stocked yourself. *shrugs* I like Ken's style...shame I never got to play him.
my point still lays down as, he could have smashed plenty of time,and what i meant by control is that he'd rather stick to the same routine of the "ken combo" attempts T.T
and dont doubt the power of melee players in other states lol, i find that youll be very surprised ;3
and i highly doubt after playing over63 players in melee that they were ALL bad =,=
actually ken doesnt stick to many paterns, and he wont purposely try to ken combo. and i dont doubt other state's "power". but then again you still never told me where youre from. and do you keep a count of all the people you play or something? you need to travel and play some pros. local people, no matter how good you think they are, are all usually pretty bad.
and dude, you dont even know what youre talking about with the "smash opportunities". the only one that could be thought of as that, is after the 2 fairs he could have fsmashed, but as you saw KDJ jumped which would have made him not. ken knew that and went for a utilt to combo, but messed up. it didnt even seem in any way that he was going for a ken combo.
Sveet is right. Ken plays such smart characters. if you watch his characters like Marth or Fox, you see how unpredictable he is. he has some great mindgames, and i can already tell you that those "good ppl" you played can't match up to his skill.
and lmfao at your list...putting bombsoldier 3rd...its really hard to rank players right now but kdj should def be much higher, i dare say #1 but i havent seen ken play EC players in months so who knows
well first he obviously used dthrow, but then he did a jump cancelled usmash. basically you can do usmash directly out of a dash with any character just by jamming the control stick up and immediately presssing a. the reason it works is because hitting the control stick up makes u jump, cancelling the dash, but hitting a before you actually leave the ground does the usmash. this way, you can charge up a usmash while still sliding forward a little, as you can see in the vid.
yeah im a kid on his way up in the game and i play with marth sheik and fox ... i got wavedashing down to a science, i think i got prety good spacing, i got almost evything down BUT! wat KDJ did on 3:46-3:48 ... he threw him ran real fast and did up smash ... if anyone can plz help me and explain that to me in details it will be greatly appreciated ... KDJ rulesss!
Mango & Armada sucks
trifasia3 4 months ago
Man DJ had him in the beggin then he did that ONE MISTAKE LOOL upB really then Ken went to combo mode^^
GoldenYoshiKing23 6 months ago
ken mindfked kdjs second stock for real...
metashinryu 8 months ago
mango stronker.
MiniDonbeE 9 months ago
3:35 perfect aim with those needles
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xzbzsdhfhnds 1 year ago
1:45 wallbang xD
QWiKTiME3 1 year ago
I wonder how m2k's sheik would do against marth? Anyone have any predictions?
thex0913 1 year ago
1:47 I jumped out of my chair.
Wonkycake 1 year ago
1:45 is pwnage
MaverixHunter 2 years ago
i believe shiek is the only true anti-marth
smashking2006 2 years ago 7
gotta love the tree
jxw6762 2 years ago
ken would've won if he didn't let go of the ledge at around4:00 :( too bad!
Ipownoobz 2 years ago 2
@Ipownoobz no he would have gotten hit by sheiks up-b
Tightness8 1 year ago
wow
very very good match
CaioNintendo 2 years ago
man, Ken is gay, with all of his Grabs and stuff.. >_>
I wanna be like him when i grow up =D
Salevits 2 years ago
gay? O_o?
CloudandSephiroth3 2 years ago 3
No. :D ..To kick other people's asses in Melee.
Salevits 2 years ago
nobody would have expect that smash through the tree and that far
GUSTAVOPINGPONG 3 years ago 3
Nobody except Ken of course.
Fh58k 2 years ago
I do that one all the time on this level, it really pisses off my friends :P
StrikerF2 2 years ago
cool bra
me too
Wendiesel 2 years ago
yo son you thumbed him up brahhh
milosloveshimself 2 years ago
oh bra oh bra oh bra, i give thumbs up like a champ, esp to scrubs ^.^
Wendiesel 2 years ago 2
wow, i had almost forgotten how good KDJ was
incronaut 3 years ago
i HAD forgotten how fucking smart ken is
LWoodyard08 2 years ago 13
Oh yeah.
Is there any chance anyone can upload the rest of the matches from the Ken/KDJ OC set?
twinesper 3 years ago
wow, amazing. i didnt think ken would come back from that epic shiek combo to get the first kill. Wow even better. 2 kills after that.
grapesonastick 3 years ago
cause kdj made the mistake of trying to kill ken with the up-b move. lol.
Chesaurus 2 years ago
alright...the second kill by ken on shik was gay. how the hell does a forward smash hit thru a damn tree?
flamedragon3088 3 years ago
1:46 damn.
Hamsterlord106 3 years ago
i agree
MysticKenji 3 years ago
Man, tough break for Ken. If he had just rolled at 4:05 he would've won the match.
alcheato 3 years ago
2:59 to 3:05... best part of the video LOL
MarthKing5 3 years ago
kdj is amazing
neji1515 3 years ago
they are not japanese
blackjo007 3 years ago
KDJ is way too good. His Sheik beats both Ken and M2k's Marths.
byakuya32 3 years ago 3
but can he beat azen's marth?
TheSizMan 3 years ago
probably...
Phantasius 3 years ago
Actually Azen's Marth is the only one that consistently beat KDJ's Sheik. He beat him in the MLG events they played at and again at Viva La Smashtaclysm. It probably helped that Azen used to main Sheik though.
alcheato 3 years ago
nope. Azen is the only marth that beats KDJ's sheik consistently.
byakuya32 2 years ago
You mean about the time they played, more than two years ago. :P
ggaeta91 2 years ago
lol but that hasn't something to do with the situation here, or what:P?^^
cross25011990 2 years ago
KDJ did beat Ken at MLG but if I'm not mistaken Ken did beat him right after that at OC and won the tourney. Then after that he did that whole not really playing thing and only showing up to random Cali tournies.
twinesper 3 years ago
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professional melee players make it seem like the only way to win is guarding the ledges..
shaunblue 3 years ago
dude, i don't think you realize how hard it is to levy for position against these kinds of players.
the ledge guarding is just the conclusion to a long string of mini-battles. that's like judging...i dunno...a chess game by saying "professional chess players ALWAYS end their games with the king not being able to move."
simus0505 3 years ago 4
suck a mother effing dick composeur....not mine ol bean...not mine
Jarlaxle1157 3 years ago
DJ's definitely sandbagging. Look at :40, how could he think that would ACTUALLY work.
maxisku2 3 years ago
lol i was thinkin the same thing.
flexdex4ever 3 years ago
It does work as a kill.
Very unexpected, but hard to hit with. I've seen him land it.
mattdotzeb 3 years ago
OOOOOOO get soooome... lol
glitch417 3 years ago
holy crap i am getting mindgamed just by looking at them
HeyNythius 3 years ago
That was the greatest 2nd stock Ken took. Tech chases = death
GodheadsLamentX 3 years ago
Holy crap! That was an awesome match!
One of the best Melee matches ever!
blasphemymaster 3 years ago 3
reaper ive won tournis too.i thought i was as good as these guys,until i played them.ur prolly some ugly ass acne ridden piece of garbage.great you can play melee well by your standards.and you bitch like a little kid about how these kids suck ken's dick.but i bet the only way you would beat these guys in person would be because of your own rancid breath.because it has the distinct horrid odor of your own uncircumcised dick.the little kid in ET would have shortenedthis commentby shutupenisbreth!
Jarlaxle1157 3 years ago
Jesus, talk about bitching like a little kid.
Composeur 3 years ago
@Jarlaxle1157
wow ur not funny at all
anthonysob4 11 months ago
@anthonysob4 wow you don't have great grammar at all.
Jarlaxle1157 11 months ago
@Jarlaxle1157
yes cause im so concerned about grammar in a utube comment
anthonysob4 11 months ago
@anthonysob4 good use of sarcasm.
Jarlaxle1157 11 months ago
hmmmm, ken's a rat isnt he supposed to be da best?? i wont say i cant beat him but he is still a rat
diomil3 3 years ago
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I can beat his punk ass, he aint shit. I use fox and I've beaten far better than him, it's just too fucking complicated to get into mlg.
G6Reaper 3 years ago
You would have been 4-stocked by Ken in a heartbeat, G6Reaper. He's one of the finest Marth players in the world, and you're some random nobody on Youtube. He'd destroy you.
0rionBTL 3 years ago
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it's a fucking videogame you dumb bitch, it's access-able to anyone with money, and you've never seen me play, I'm not going to try to convince you with words, you'd have to see to believe. But I can tell you this, I got this game the day it came out seven years ago and played it at least once every week for hours on end until brawl came out. I wasted so much of my time on that game, that it would be stupid for someone to assume that I don't know what I'm doing or talking about.
G6Reaper 3 years ago
If you were any good, you'd be playing on the tournament scene. You're like some drunk guy in the bleachers that thinks he can hit better than Barry Bonds. You're only talking yourself into a corner, so I'd suggest you quit while you're behind.
0rionBTL 3 years ago 2
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Before you reply to my last comment let me say something, it's been made very clear that you and I aren't going to agree on this subject, fair enough. I can see that you're ken's own personal fangirl, good for you. However, the fact of the matter is I'm not going to continue to argue with an ignorant ass kisser, who has no skill of his own. If you want to keep living through someone elses success, than hunt ken down and literally suck his dick like a two dollar hooker, you fucking faggot. STFU.
G6Reaper 3 years ago
Also, if he thinks Ken is good and because of that he's "Ken's personal cocksucker", then if we apply that to you, doesn't that mean you blow yourself?
Food for thought.
kyuukyuu 3 years ago 4
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lol no my simple friend, my multiple bitches do that for me.
G6Reaper 3 years ago
rofl! i love it.
akamouse213 3 years ago
it's just a game. calm down. o.0 this video is pretty old. besides, ken hardly plays the game anymore.
that being said, melee isn't just about how long you've had the game or how often you play. it's a lot about experience and learning how to react to situations that others put you in. if you haven't been in a tournament scene, you'd probably be susceptible to such trickery and mindgames that videos can't show.
it's easy to watch, but it's completely different when you play them.
psychehaha 3 years ago 3
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I've competed in tournaments just not major league gaming tournaments, and Believe me I have experience. And as far as mind games go, I wooped one guy so bad, that he flipped out and killed himself on purpose. I'm not going to deny that ken is skilled, but I get tired of these losers who are constantly kissing his ass. I'm not sure about the rest of these people, but I'm a confident person with skill to back it up, and you don't win a match by thinking you've already lost.
G6Reaper 3 years ago
put a video up then
words are words
kyuukyuu 3 years ago 3
I would, but I have no clue how to do that, it probably involves some type of digital camera but, I don't own one.
G6Reaper 3 years ago
no johns
Hornilope 3 years ago 8
You don't seem to understand my objection, yet. You're claiming that you're better than one of the best Melee Marth players in the world. In the WORLD.
I'm saying that you have to be pretty damned full of yourself to make such a claim, and I have an extremely hard time believing some random person on the Internet making such a claim.
0rionBTL 3 years ago 5
I agree with you on a couple points. People shouldn't kiss his ass and you don't win a match thinking you've lost already.
WeretigerX 3 years ago
lmao
Hornilope 3 years ago
KDJ is a beast. Massive props to him and Ken.
TheGooseMann 3 years ago
commentators in general make watching a little more enjoyable, sometimes i don't bother to watch something if its not commentated cuz listening to the bgm and smacking isn't very engaging.
2:39, mistake with the upsmash which should've been a forward smash
2:55 2 steps to the right into an f-smash would have tipped and killed
In all the matches i've seen, his big mistakes always cost him the match
yes, even at his worst ken would still 100stock me, but thats beside the point.
genovaz 4 years ago
I just don't like these KDJ Ken matches when Wife isn't commenting. That dude's so funny with his comments xD
DocSmash 4 years ago
omfg kdj <333333333333 RAPE
kusakusakiwi 4 years ago
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nice come back
Beansyom 4 years ago 2
kdj did not edgeguard too well. he should've won by 3 stocks. usually kdj does a backthrow to a nice ledgeguard, but he kept lettng ken back on
jngshin 4 years ago
WOOOO!! KDJ IS MY IDOL ESPECIALLY SINCE I LIVE LIKE 20 mins from him lol
SkyShadowX 4 years ago
Ken's teching abilities are just so good... KDJ played beautifully too. +5
DocSmash 4 years ago 2
KDJ Pwns... Silly Marth..
glitch417 4 years ago
these guys are genious's
Mofat 4 years ago
ken and kdj have the most intense matches
teknofuzion87 4 years ago 3
Nice comeback.
shadowblast007 4 years ago
great vid, i play as c. falcon and marth i can l cancel wave dash not to badly, but when you see this style of play it's kinda out of our leagues, especialy how ken tries to 'trap' you very gd :)
0megaridley 4 years ago 2
mindgames at 1:30
texasmonkey61 4 years ago
doh all ken had to do was hit L :)
Juntahh 4 years ago
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Ken could have won that, he was too buisy showing off his button controll that he didnt fo in for the kill. He had over 4 chances where shiek couldnt dodge or block and she had high percentage, he could have simply smashed and boom, but NooooOOOOOooo! I wanna challenge him so bad =.= Hehe, ive fought soooo many good ppl in this game and so far only one or 2 can keep up with me.
xeik190 4 years ago
lol where do you live? if its anywhere besides VA/MD, CA, or Chicago (which i know its not) then you pretty much need to stop talking as those "one or two people" who can keep up with you are probably bad players. Ken wasnt showing off his button control, he was trying to trick KDJ into going into a bad spot, or checkmate if you will.
Sveet 4 years ago 2
think of chess, do you just send all your guys after the king from get go? no, if you did you would lose all your guys and they would win. you strategize, and then you put the king into tough spots with only a few options, and then you trap him. thats how Ken's style is, and if you think you can beat him without even realizing this, you might as well quit now, because you will get owned hard.
Sveet 4 years ago 6
Yes, people need to start recognizing mind games more. =/
I4mLEGION 4 years ago
you are so right
nicki249 4 years ago
lol, don't forget about NJ >_> M2K is there, xD. Not to mention Eggm, Reik, Tec0, Magus, and....well, w/e that's not the point, xD. Yeah, Ken isn't easily beaten, despite what it may "look" like. You could see someone get 4-stocked on video, play them, and get 4-stocked yourself. *shrugs* I like Ken's style...shame I never got to play him.
chostylish 4 years ago
yeah, beating ken has been a milestone for many pros. that tells you something.
jngshin 4 years ago
my point still lays down as, he could have smashed plenty of time,and what i meant by control is that he'd rather stick to the same routine of the "ken combo" attempts T.T
and dont doubt the power of melee players in other states lol, i find that youll be very surprised ;3
and i highly doubt after playing over63 players in melee that they were ALL bad =,=
xeik190 3 years ago
actually ken doesnt stick to many paterns, and he wont purposely try to ken combo. and i dont doubt other state's "power". but then again you still never told me where youre from. and do you keep a count of all the people you play or something? you need to travel and play some pros. local people, no matter how good you think they are, are all usually pretty bad.
Sveet 3 years ago
and dude, you dont even know what youre talking about with the "smash opportunities". the only one that could be thought of as that, is after the 2 fairs he could have fsmashed, but as you saw KDJ jumped which would have made him not. ken knew that and went for a utilt to combo, but messed up. it didnt even seem in any way that he was going for a ken combo.
Sveet 3 years ago
IMO, triple fair > fsmash 80+% of the time =\
Grooviliciousness 3 years ago
Sveet is right. Ken plays such smart characters. if you watch his characters like Marth or Fox, you see how unpredictable he is. he has some great mindgames, and i can already tell you that those "good ppl" you played can't match up to his skill.
KoreanMint00v 4 years ago
"smart characters"? lol
Hornilope 3 years ago
2:59-3:05. They should make a dance from that.
OneSmoothDude 4 years ago
Haha! that part made me laugh. And lmao that would be an awesome dance if someone actually pulled that off hahaha!
CodaBear2 4 years ago
2:22 = teh sexy
itsdragon 4 years ago
thank you stewie i really appreciate it ... KDJ = god of smash ... and i will make my top 5 players in smash rite now
1. Ken
2. PC Chris
3. Bombsoldier
4. KDJ
5. m2k
srry isai azen and others ... n killaor sucks i cant believe he gets payed to play smash ... cant wait for ssbb
CHUCKWIGZ 4 years ago
...and who asked for your opinion/list? lmao
and lmfao at your list...putting bombsoldier 3rd...its really hard to rank players right now but kdj should def be much higher, i dare say #1 but i havent seen ken play EC players in months so who knows
Araknophobik 4 years ago
well first he obviously used dthrow, but then he did a jump cancelled usmash. basically you can do usmash directly out of a dash with any character just by jamming the control stick up and immediately presssing a. the reason it works is because hitting the control stick up makes u jump, cancelling the dash, but hitting a before you actually leave the ground does the usmash. this way, you can charge up a usmash while still sliding forward a little, as you can see in the vid.
stewie19 4 years ago
yeah im a kid on his way up in the game and i play with marth sheik and fox ... i got wavedashing down to a science, i think i got prety good spacing, i got almost evything down BUT! wat KDJ did on 3:46-3:48 ... he threw him ran real fast and did up smash ... if anyone can plz help me and explain that to me in details it will be greatly appreciated ... KDJ rulesss!
CHUCKWIGZ 4 years ago
4:00-4:06
dangerous
blackjo007 4 years ago
hey did you take those match from the OC2 DVD?
blackjo007 4 years ago
Damn Beautiful match
ADamIAkFg 5 years ago
nice comeback KDJ!!! pour that rape sauce alll over ken haha
chhipzahoy 5 years ago
yea, thats a neat trick, he did that in his match vs m2k as well.
doyoung2win 5 years ago
4:05 - 4:06 :(
Colbol123 5 years ago
1:24 big ass combo!
I love ken and kdj, tho i've only met kdj in person. he's so awesome! same w/ pc chris
cu00x19 5 years ago
kdj is sooooo fast
r0flcopter 5 years ago
damn that east coast shiek is crazy for realsies madsies
nameformyskreen 5 years ago
one of the best match ive ever seen
staepuff 5 years ago