"HUMANISM" supports the welfare, interests, values, and dignity of all men, women, children and races . Welcome to the next step in our evolution. Please use the word humanism or humanist if you care for the well-being of humankind.
I couldn't agree with you more and I wish more women, especially my ex and and the mother of my daughter, were more like you. I have had to spend literally thousands of dollars just to see my daughter every other weekend and when I do see her, I can't really do anything with her, when it comes to anything that cost money, because the ex is draining me through child support. It really sucks to be a man and on the receiving end of family courts and domestic relations.
1.Take any sentence made by a feminist that involves the word man.
2. Replace the word man with the word jew.
All of the sudden it sounds kind of racist right?
Feminism is not about equal rights anymore, its about demonizing men and promoting women regardless of their individual actions through hate propaganda.
Same methods as religious fundamentalism or any dictatorship of the past.
On the thought of men and abortion. It used to be that a child born outside the legal contract of marriage was not entitled to any of the Fathers income. That is what a bastard was. The courts changed it somewhere along the line.
it is something like you don't love me (the mother) and to hear my son crying to her saying yes I do love you but I just want to talk to daddy,
I have caught one of these things happening on my answering machine.
Because my son wanted to spend some time with me through the summer holiday he was told if he spent the weekend with me he was not allowed to go to swimming lessons.
When men bring up isses of equal shared parenting these types of experiences are ignored by it detractors.
My oldest is already showing signs of parental alienation syndrome. The youngest twin girls one cries to see me the other is autistic and when ever I do see her it is as if I am a stranger to her because we have not had the bonding time that I have had with older kids.
the middle kid my son has (unbeknown to his mother) called me only to get caught and to hear her yelling at him and hear him crying saying he just wanted to talk to daddy .
when I call the authorities they just say contact a lawyer. Fine but by the time this got into court my lawyer tells me that I was not the primary care parent because for the year that it took this to get to court the children were in the care of the mother.
My hands have been tied I have no legal remedy and how I have to listen to my kids crying because they want to see daddy and they can't because mom won't let it happen. see more above.
I too was a stay at home dad I did all the cooking the cleaning the packing of lunches the makeing sure the kids got off to school safely and home safely. I did all that was some may call women's work (I don't call it womens work it is house work and takeing care of your kids)
My wife was the working parent because he job had slightly higher pay and much better benefits that benefits the whole family. When she left I come home to an empty house. Her and the kids gone ^
Thanks so much for this, and speaking your truth. I respect you greatly for having the guts to say you're not a feminist, because of the extremes of male-bashing they go to, yet obviously you don't support men abusing women (and neither do I). We really need more American women to have the courage to speak up, because when it's only men who are disagreeing with feminism, we're accused of "hating women"/being chauvinists, and other bullsh#t- to avoid the real issue. Blessed be you. :O))
i start to get mad about feminist, male-bashing hypocrisy. then i realize that not only are men waking up to it, but women like yourself are as well. the truth will prevail. we men are too smart, energetic, and talented to let it go to far. it won't happen feminazis.
You should meet my sister in law. She makes your husbands ex look tame. Is always late dropping the kids off, always abuses him when he drops them off late, which is rare. he misses one payment by as little as a day, still pays just a day late, and she goes off at him for that too. He took thier daughter to the doctor once and she threatened to take him to court over it "because it wasn't her regular doctor", who happened to be 4 hours away, one way.
i dont believe in equality, man r superior to women in certain aspect, and women are pertient for other things. equal rights for honorable rights is good but other than that, it's concession from men.
You should just go to the courts without a lawyer. You don't need a lawyer if his ex-wife blatantly disregards court orders. If you have copies of those court orders, you can just go to the courts and hopefully put his ex-wife in jail
Gender rights is a bunch of shit. A good childhood friend of mine grew up to be very successful. He got married at 27 and had a kid at 28. He got divorced at 30 and she took almost everything. Now he's back home living with his parents paying the bitch he married money to raise a kid he can never see, and this guy is great, the women is psychotic, yet she has the kid... Since this happened to him I've been a strong supporter of men's rights. He would be too if his soul wasn't so shattered.
@beautifulstar33 umm I don't think so. I hope not anyway. Some women are good and some are bad, just like men. I just think the law allows women to ruin a mans life if she wants and the man is pretty much defenceless. Like, for example, a women can accuse me of raping her. If she wins (she probably will), I go to jail, if she's outed as a fake, she won't get in trouble. I don't think that's fair. But the vast majority of women I know are awesome people. My problem is with the law, not women.
@carlinsaves i think that's terrible. but i know many women can be vicious too, as well as men. that's why i think men shouldn't think with their dicks all the time. if she refuses protection, say good-bye fast. i think women who falsely accuse men of rape should be in trouble & get some jail time. on a side note, how coem this doesn't happen in countries like trinidad or nepal?
@carlinsaves i mean, in trinidad or nepal, as well as jamaica and japan, if women act this way, the men don't stand for it. why? evern in my culture, generally(albeit not always), if women act too out of line, the men can hit us. why the difference?
@beautifulstar33 Yes, that's very wrong and sad. I'm adressing American law and American women. I agree with you that women in those countries need more rights and it's terrible the way they're treated. Still though, just because other people have it worse, doesn't mean I should abandon true justice in my own country. You're point is a good one but a little off topic, I think.
@carlinsaves I'm not saying men should be treated like dirt, why do u think that? I think men should be respected more, a lot more. Do you know men have fallen behind iun education compared to woemn in europe/US?Australia? Won't uit hurt us all if that happens? In trinidad, a man who beat his wife & threatened her with a knife was just given a $100 fine and told to avoid her, nothign else, what do u say to that
@beautifulstar33 I don't think that you think men should be treated like dirt. You seem like a smart person, I'm sure you agree with equality. I believe in my country some aspects of the law favors women way more than men, which is wrong, and in other countries, like Trinidad, it's the opposite, men have all the rights, and that's even more wrong than what I'm fighting for. The things I read about how women are treated there is very sad.
@carlinsaves thanks. I try to as far as i can./ was the west always this way with men? Yes, in trinidad and Guyana, japan, Armenia, etc, men don't tolerate this stuff. in fact, the police commissioner of guyana beats his wife and has the backing of some politicians! men CAN HIT Us if they choose too, albeit it's strongly discouraged usually. in the west too, ppl from these countries practice this too. I know my family kind of does. how did u know that trinidad and guyana are tougher on women?
@beautifulstar33 (continued) I think the answer is culture. Men and women are use to that kind of life in other countries, and they're use to the life we have here. I think it's time the whole world abandons all these old traditions and start respecting eachother equally.
If there is any hope whatsoever for American females, it lies with their supporting fathers rights, and equal rights for men in general. Failing to support men in this manner will result in the "marriage strike" continuing and worsening. Current projections will have a statistical zero marriage rate by 2030.
@gulskjegg Also, note that while this is occuring, men from westernized countries are pursuing dating and marriage from non-westernized foreign countries as the alternative to the american/western woman.
@ApollosInsight Yup! And that is why I married a foreign girl. The looks of pure hate and fear we get from American females is worth the $80,000 and two years of my life I spent in the Former Soviet Union. American men need to comprehend that we have so many awesome options with foreign women. Conversely, American females are loathed and despised throughout the entire world, this have virtually no options with foreign men. Sounds like victory to me.
@gulskjegg Yeah, the problem w/ feminism is that there are so many contradictions that they've created...
They claim to be independent, yet still want men to pay their way. They claim that marriage is oppressive, yet single mothers are STILL trying to marry a well-off guy. And they claim that we as men are sexist towards them, yet they raise hell b/c we marry foreign women.
I say that American/western women are the ONLY culprits of their own demise.
@ApollosInsight Excellent points all, but personally I think the quicker feminism meets its demise, the better off we will all be. That is why I encourage American females to act as feminist (re: stupid) as possible. The facts are clear, marriage rates are the lowest in the history of Western Civilization. Instead of trumpeting this as a victory, feminists whine and complain that they cant find a good man. I say we give the modern feminist the husband she so richly deserves. None!
Also, if either the man or a woman is likely to become homeless, hungry or without medical care, and the other person can afford it, there should be some alimony in that case - but only enough to preserve the safety of the other person. And women should have to pay alimony too if a man is going to become homeless or starve. We should all help each other. Life isn't only about protecting and helping women; it's about helping and protecting men, nature, all races, etc.
Men are also second-class citizens when it comes to divorce and alimony. How is it fair that men have to fork over almost everything they have to a woman if they get a divorce, even if the divorce is caused by the woman's boredom or infidelity? Alimony should be abolished. Any abusiveness or the part of the man OR THE WOMAN can and should be penalized by existing laws pertaining to civil court, but turning men into slaves for women via alimony and child support is fascist.
I commend you for being a female and admitting you know the truth. And no hostility to you, but the only females that admit to this bias against men are the females like you who are a wife/girlfriend of a man who is going through it. Your husbands ex sounds like the typical psycho...has he ever had to deal with being accused of domestic violence? If he hasn't, he should consider himself lucky. Women everyday are lying to police to get men arrested for domestic violence. Again, thanks for truth.
OKAY LADIES! TIME TO BOYCOTT SEX & MARRIAGE! DON'T GIVE MEN ANYTHING! THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US! SO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GIVE THE SERVICE, HOSPITALITY, SEX, OR ANY OTHER PLEASURE!!! BOYCOTT MEN!!!!!!
Yes a man should have say in to birth or not to birth. How about when they do plan for children, he works and saves for years, renovates the house, pours himself into the lan to have children. They get pregnant,, but she changes her mind three to four months into the pregnancy and has an abortion or decides she wants a divorce. All of his work goes to crap. She gets support plus maintenance
Men have the right to absolutely refuse to make a child with a any woman. This is done through prevention by whatever means necessary. DO NOT fail here.
Do not marry, no exceptions.
In relationships demand fair, equal treatment. Mutual respect mutual compensation as you see fit. If she fails to live up to her responsibility WALK AWAY.
Any deviation to this will risk the rest of your life to potentially being manipulated by a woman and the state.
It's not just about children and rape accusations. If we both whare on a sinking ship, and only room for one more person in the lifeboat, who do you think would have to go down with the ship? If there's a war, who do you think would be sent to the front to die in honour and glory?
@JayantKumarZ I don't think so. Firstly, rape is an extremely difficult thing to prove. It is therefore impossible to prove a rape that didn't happen. The only way one could is if cops planted evidence. Secondly, false rape accusations are much less common than rape itself and therefore less of a problem. Thirdly, no one gets life in prison for rape. You might not even do any time. That's a sad fact. Caught with drugs? You might get 20 years. Brutually rape a woman? Might get 5 years.
@NoelBlueheart Difficult to prove? maybe... unless the court wants to give justice that is. much less common? where did you get that? and thirdly.... 5 years? you fooling yourself? all get atleast 25 years, 2ndly chance to be proven innocent even if you are, is literally 5%. come to my country if you can live after a rape accusation. trust me you get 30% times life, 50% times 30+ years, and 10% time even death. Brutally? she will be wandering in a hotel just 10 days after rape... vs life. my ass
@JayantKumarZ There is no maybe about that, sweetheart. The standards of proof on rape are very low and it's a he-said-she-said situation, so yes it is very hard to prove. A woman is raped in this country ever 26 seconds, and that's just the one that are reported and convicted - leaving out the ones that don't get reported and the rapists who go free. Only about 8% of reported rapes are unfounded, and unfounded is a lose term which means the statistic could be much lower.
@NoelBlueheart You just said it's hard to prove, and follow up by claiming a statistic as extreme as every 26 seconds... Where's the proof? You can't honestly expect me to believe a number like that without proof? Or is that your intention, to claim it's to hard to prove, so one must have faith to believe such numbers. Faith that people don't lie. Faith people won't try to make money off the backs of victims. faith in human decency (not to do above), and simultaneously, in lack thereof (to rape)
@MNeilGri Don't interrupt a conversation of mine piously demanding proof and saying "you can't honestly expect me to believe a number like that" when I wasn't speaking to you. You have fingers an obviously access to a computer. Look it up. I got that statistics from the FBI, so take a hike. And what are you rambling on about? Do me a favor and read my posts clearly before you start engaging me based on nonsense.
@NoelBlueheart If you wanted this conversation to be private, you should NOT have posted it to a public comments board. Grow up! Also, I noted that you claimed it was difficult to prove and then suggested you had a proven statistic, which would be a contradiction of your first statement. If you had proof that that women were ACTUALLY raped every 26 seconds (US or worldwide? Actual rape or just unwanted sexual advances), then it would also count as proof in court, would t now? typical avoidance
I never wanted a private conversation. Another straw-man! But you butting into it demanding proof for something when I never said it TO YOU is hilarious and a blunder. I already gave you proof of this statistics and you, either out of sheer laziness or fear of finding out you're wrong, obviously didn't look it up. If you can't accomplish a simple task like that then don't even bother conversing with me, halfwit. I told you the source is the FBI. Look it up, dipshit!
@NoelBlueheart You referred to it as a conversation of "yours" and told me not to interrupt it. Furthermore, you still consider my commenting "butting in". Do you understand the concept of a comments section? It isn't a one on one conversation, it is a open declaration of your opinions, open to anyone and everyone to challenge. But you don't like that do you, having your opinions challenged. the amount of cussing and insults in every comment shows you don't handle confrontation and dissent well.
@NoelBlueheart And you're completely missing the point (and you call me stupid). You are contradicting yourself. A claim of 1 rape every 26 seconds (that's 1.2 million/year, or 90 million over a 75 year lifespan, which is more then the typical 1/4. Feminist math never does add up) would indicate that rape is in fact easy to prove (which is opposite of what you claimed), ether that or the 26 second claim isn't based on proof. Which is it? Is rape easy to prove or are your statistic assumptions?
@JayantKumarZ As for sentencing, no it is not 25 years. The average sentencing for rape in the US is six to nine years, most of that time being served on paper and rapists being let out early on good behavior. And please, 5%, 30%, 50% and 10%? You're just making up figures to support your arguments. None of that is factual or verifiable. I've gotten all of my statistics from the FBI. Where do you get yours? No rapists ever get life! You are full of shit.
@JayantKumarZ Sir, you have no point! I provided facts from the FBI and realities about rape, false rape accusations, proving rape, and the sentences for rape. Your point, what ever it was, was never proven. Why can't you accept that false rape accusations are not as big a problem as rape itself? That doesn't mean false rape accusations are not wrong. I'm not saying that out of sexism or feminism. I'm saying that because of the facts!
@MonsterSawce Ha! Yeah fucking right. False rape accusations are A) very rare(only 8%) and B) it's impossible to prove a rape that didn't happen. Seriously, I think falsely accusing a man of rape is wrong for many reasons. It demonizes and ruins his reputation and it makes real rape harder to prove. However, it cannot be compared to the overwhelming epidemic of sexual violence in this country. And it can't compare with what rape is - sexual pleasure from destroying another human being.
@NoelBlueheart "B) it's impossible to prove a rape that didn't happen."
Similarly, it is impossible to prove that consent wasn't given. The justice system doesn't perfectly prove things, it only need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt.
@didles123 It is not *IMPOSSIBLE* to prove that consent isn't given. Things like bruises from forced entry are obvious signs of forcible rape. The only problem when proving consent is when the assailant uses a weapon to threaten and keep the victim still and there are no bruises from forcing himself into her.
@NoelBlueheart But none of that proves that consent wasn't given. Even with larceny for example, it can't be proven that there wasn't an agreement before hand allowing the taking of the item. We have to make common sense inferences. Just as we can infer that bruising indicates non-consensual sex, we can reasonably infer that if the a rape accusation is false if evidence blatantly contradicts the accusation.
@didles123 You're telling me bruises and blood around and in the vagina where the man forced himself into her doesn't prove consent wasn't given? You're full of shit and you know nothing about sexual violence or the legal system. Just fuck off already. You're completely out of your league with me.
@NoelBlueheart You can't play the absolute skeptic card on one issue and not the other. You said it's impossible to prove that a rape didn't happen, which is only true if you're an absolute skeptic. If a woman claims to have been raped around a certain time and place, and there is evidence that she was miles away from said place at said time, how does it not prove the accusation to be false beyond a reasonable doubt? You're equally full of shit.
@didles123 Why can't I? And it's not skepticism in the first place. It's realism. And I think you have a major, pathetic problem with paying attention and reading comprehension. I did *NOT* say "it's impossible to disprove a false rape accusation". I said it's nearly impossible to prove a false rape accusation. Know what the hell I said before you attack me for it, cretin.
Hang on a sec injury during sex doesn't automatically mean rape. Virgin women can bleed and bruise during their first time. People who have rough sex both male and female bruises bleeding can happen.
Has to be a proof of some sort of struggle here where consent wasn't given etc.
One can consent to being in handcuffs during sex and still get wrist injuries doesn't mean they haven't consented or withdrawn consent.
Consensual sex is still an activity where injuries can happen.
@stupidfeminazifoolz Breaking of the hemin or vaginal skin is completely different. It is not an injury and it does not cause bruises. If a woman was having sex rough enough to cause bleeding and bruises, she would not enjoy it and tell the man to stop because of the pain. That's fucking ridiculous. It sound like you know next to nothing about the opposite sex.
Bruises and signs of forced entry are proof of a struggle! Fucking except it.
Sorry but it isn't always the case bruises happen sex is an activity where injury happens. It isn't proof. You have to prove its a struggle. Rough sex can injure someone it happens you need to accept that.
If she doesn't say stop etc it isn't rape. A bruise is caused when soft tissues are bumped causing small capillaries and veins to break this can happen during sex.
Swearing won't get your point across but it is kinda hilarious you sound like you might have a stroke take care
You are so fucking delusional. Talking to you is like banging your head against a wall! This is a fact. I don't care what you damn opinions are, but if a woman is bruised on the outside of her vagina and around the lips that is proof of forced entry. Ordinary sex where the woman is not struggling and the man is not forcing his penis into her vagina cannot cause these type of bruise consistencies. If someone was having sex THAT ROUGH the woman would be in pain and stop. She would not enjoy it!
Also just because the vaginal walls isn't damaged, bruised or bleeding it doesn't mean the woman hasn't been raped either.
Another reason: who's to say the woman didn't injure her vagina after sex just make the man guilty. Some women can be deceitful.
Rape is hard to prove and much more complex than he did it he's guilty. Like i said has to be proof that there was some sort of struggle and/or consent wasn't given but undoubtedly where consent wasn't given.
(cont.) At this point, you're saying that it's more likely that a woman enjoys having her vagina rammed to the point of being bruised and bleeding or she's crazy enough to do it herself to frame a man for rape than if she had actually been raped? Morons like you are the reason why rape victims don't report it and are so afraid to for risk of being belittled and called a liar. You're coming up with every possible scenario BUT a rape scenario. Injuries are proof of battery and forced entry! END!
" you're saying that it's more likely that a woman enjoys having her vagina rammed to the point of being bruised and bleeding
No i clearly stated that im more likely to believe the victim based on their injuries and location with the accused etc and I need proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
"she's crazy enough to do it herself to frame a man for rape than if she had actually been raped? "
Again its a scenario you have to consider given the evidence. You can't assume things.
(cont.2) Correction - it is far, far, FAR more likely that she's a rape victim than she actually enjoys having her vagina annihilated to point of severe internal injury or that she would have the insanity of doing it to herself for attention. It's not a scenario you have to consider because if a woman did it to herself the injury consistences would be a lot different than if it was done by a third party male. Doubting a rape victims does *NOT* help. It causes fear in rape victims of reporting.
"it is far, far, FAR more likely that she's a rape victim than she actually enjoys having her vagina annihilated to point of severe internal injury or that she would have the insanity of doing it to herself for attention."
I agree with you, but i would never call it an open shut case unless i explore all the possibilities, you may not like that because you may think every woman is angel who would never lie, but that's called a fair trial.
If police spent time exploring all possibilities including outlandish ones like yours they would waste a lot of tax payer money and they would waste a lot of time solving the case to it's actual conclusion. Why do you insist that I'm only looking at the woman's angle just because I, as the law agrees, say that internal vaginal bleeding and bruising is proof of nonconsensual sex? No, to consider something that irrational is unfair to the victims, and an advantage to the accused - not fairness!
"If police spent time exploring all possibilities including outlandish ones like yours they would waste a lot of tax payer money and they would waste a lot of time solving the case to it's actual conclusion. "
So its about time and money not justice and fairness. OK.
Anyway im done im not gonna have a long drawn out discussion with you anymore i feel we will go around in circles and false rape accusing/rape trials is only small part of the topics in this video. Plus other people should comment too, rather than have 2 people dominate this board imo.
(cont.) I'll take that as "I lose". The only person who kept this drawn out was you in your stubbornness and inability counter my arguments or defend your own. So far the only thing you've contributed is broad speculation about the female sex life and proposing outlandish, irrational events as "reasonable doubt". Perhaps it is best you just leave with your tail between your legs.
"If a woman was having sex rough enough to cause bleeding and bruises, she would not enjoy it and tell the man to stop because of the pain. "
How do we know she is aware she is in pain what about adrenaline? Rough sex can be extremely vigorous. A small tear that gradually opens up is harder to notice
Its not the first time a woman hasn't stopped because she didn't enjoy it, you hear many stories of women later regretting having sex with whoever despite consenting all the way.
(cont.2) Now, really, you are sounding fucking stupid. You are going to EXTREMES to avoid ruling it a rape scenario. Adrenaline does not prevent you from having pain in vulnerable places. I suppose if a man was full of adrenaline he wouldn't feel it if I punched him in the nuts? NO! Same with a woman. I have had rough sex before, and I can tell you AS A WOMAN that you're full of shit. Yes, it would hurt. You're not a woman and you don't know what it's like to have a vagina. So can it.
We are just going around in circles. You claim that "ALL" will stop if they don't enjoy it, i don't buy that, you talking about yourself and comparing all women to you again this is nonsense not all women are the same.
"I suppose if a man was full of adrenaline he wouldn't feel it if I punched him in the nuts? NO!"
Now you know everything about the male body despite having a female body talk about being a hypocrite. Besides its not the point some men enjoy that kind of pain.
And you claim you know what's in like to be a woman and that it's like to be one having sex. You're comparing all women to your fucked up, delusional ideas about them that are dead wrong. I guarantee you, if a woman is having sex and her vagina starts bruising and bleeding she will be in agony and she will stop. Like I said, if all police and doctors accuse a woman with severe injuries to her vagina of having rough sex before they considered rape, no rape charges would ever be made!
"You are going to EXTREMES to avoid ruling it a rape scenario."
No im looking at the all the possible outcomes to determine the fairest outcome. Rape is a crime that has to be fully evaluated just like gbh assault etc.
You seem to want to rule it a rape scenario no matter what. Like I said proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This conversation is over, worried about your health, sound like your gonna explode. Im getting bored I can't stand emotional wrecks and you sound like one.
(cont.) If a man was found with a knife with the victim's blood, blood on his clothes, had made death threats, and was seen with the victim last, it is POSSIBLE that he stumbled upon the body and picked up the knife and held the victim's body. Anything is possible. However, possible as it may be, it is IRRATIONAL and highly unlikely just like a crying, hysterical woman beaten with internal vaginal injuries having rough sex is IRRATIONAL and highly unlikely. It's not REASONABLE DOUBT.
"If a man was found with a knife with the victim's blood, blood on his clothes, had made death threats, and was seen with the victim last, it is POSSIBLE that he stumbled upon the body and picked up the knife and held the victim's body. "
That doesn't make sense "had made death threats?" how do you know this.
As far as making threats, I'm talking about multiple people hearing him threaten to kill to man. But you know, it is possible be that he meant it out of frustration, was hanging out with the guy that night to make amends, left to pee or buy a beer, and came back to find him dead and got blood on him, picked up the knife, and drove in his truck with the knife to go to the police station before being pulled over. It is possible, right? But it is very irrational and not reasonable doubt!
I dunno for some reason given the way this conversation is going I get the sense I'm feeding a troll, besides that you are unbelievably rude. The hell with this I'm done talking to you. I can see it's pointless. Good Day.
That being said, I am more likely to believe a woman has been raped based on her injuries, the location with the accused etc but it still has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt she didn't consent.
(cont.3) "Reasonable doubt" is subjective and flawed. Reasonable doubt for you is not the same as it is for someone else. If we went by your guidelines, rapists would never be convicted. How many rapists would be caught if police and doctors looked at a girl crying and hysterical with a bleeding and bruised vagina and said, "Oh, she could have been having rough sex or inflicted it on herself to frame him." None! Not only that, but that is evil and insensitive. So fuck you!
(cont.) Your very moronic user name spells out how biased and unreasonable you are. Stop coming up with outlandish scenarios that even if possible are trivial in their possibility compared to rape being the culprit, and educate yourself about women and anatomy. Why would a woman have bruises and bleeding if the man was not forcing himself into her - especially OUTSIDE of her vagina? He's have to be going 100mph and have the strength of a bull to do that consensually. Fucking shut up.
"Your very moronic user name spells out how biased and unreasonable you are."
This didn't stop you debating or discussing with me before. It really goes to show that when you can't win over the other person with you arguments you throw temper tantrums, threats and insults. Pathetic really. You need to grow up.
(cont.4) What you think is "reasonable doubt" is obviously irrational. For the 12th time, it is very UNREASONABLE to say that a woman with severe internal injuries exactly consistent with forced entry was just having rough sex or did it to herself. That is not reasonable doubt. You're full of shit. Obviously, the people in the law know better than you and they do consider forced entry injuries proof, so you think you know better than they do? Fucking can it.
@stupidfeminazifoolz This isn't an assumption. I'm giving you an actual scenario where a man was heard by many witnesses making death threats and was last seen with the victims by the citizens or a police officer. Stop trying to pick apart a fucking hypothetical situation. Maybe the guy was video taped making threats and seen on a security camera with the victims hours before his death. Stop being a whore for conflict and trying to argue over EVERYTHING!
"Stop being a whore for conflict and trying to argue over EVERYTHING!"
Again all this tells me is that you want to end cases quickly because it gets too complicated for you when there is conflict. There is a reason why the jury is a group and they have to unanimously vote.
"Stop trying to pick apart a fucking hypothetical situation."
It has been picked apart. Keep adding more things to it, whats next maybe the security camera recorded him murdering the victim right?
(cont.) No, the problem is that I give you a hypothetical situation in which a man is obviously guilty and I use YOUR LOGIC to show you how anything is possible but not likely or rational or worthy of reasonable doubt. To avoid this argument for which you cannot give and have not given a reply, you start irrelevantly picking the scenario apart. Even still you haven't answered to this argument. You just use diversion like the dishonest cretin you are.
"Even still you haven't answered to this argument. You just use diversion like the dishonest cretin you are."
I have answered the argument. You still treat every scenario as proof. That's your problem not mine. Whether your the prosecution or defendant i will treat you the same when it comes to statements. Your the one who treats defendants and prosecutors differently not me so you see a hypocrisy based on your ideology not mine. It shocks you that i treat it the same.
@stupidfeminazifoolz You never answered to how your argument bases "reasonable doubt" on possibility when anything is possible but "reasonable doubt" is only what is likely or rational. That's what my analogy demonstrated. Do that now, or disappear with your head hung low and your ego bruised. The only thing you did was try to manipulate the analogy, but you did NOT ANSWER TO IT'S PURPOSE!
Do it now, and if you don't, you indirectly admit you are wrong. Just try it.
"Do it now, and if you don't, you indirectly admit you are wrong. Just try it."
What are you on about? seriously?
"The only thing you did was try to manipulate the analogy, but you did NOT ANSWER TO IT'S PURPOSE!"
You mean to your purpose which was what? What was your analogy? to compare a guy who knifed a another person to a rape victim? i don't think it was a good analogy to begin with.
"I use YOUR LOGIC to show you how anything is possible but not likely or rational or worthy of reasonable doubt. "
No you used your own logic on my statements. You apparently set a trap which failed badly dunno why your celebrating. Again if I'm going to question the accuser, why shouldn't i question the defendants. Things can always be fabricated on both ends.
Congratulations. You just admitted defeat by failing to respond. I'll try, as a courtesy, to dumb this down for you one last time.
You said that any possibility is reasonable doubt. I showed you how even when a man is obviously guilty there is always a possibility or, as you said, a "maybe", but that possibilities are not reasonable doubt. Only what is likely or rational is.
You cannot prove a single thing you said to me. Take your bruised ego and begone.
" I showed you how even when a man is obviously guilty there is always a possibility or, as you said, a "maybe", but that possibilities are not reasonable doubt. Only what is likely or rational is."
Is it wrong to question those possibilities? Like i said why does witnesses have to be proof. Why can't you use reasonable doubt on testimonies.
Again what does a man with a knife scenario got in common with a rape victim? its your "analogy" after all.
@stupidfeminazifoolz It is wrong to question possibilities because anything is always possible. It is also flawed to consider a possibility, not a rational likelihood, "reasonable doubt" because in every single situation there are possibilities and maybes, but those aren't proof or disproof of anything. You can't disprove this. You cannot. You have failed again and again.
"It is wrong to question possibilities because anything is always possible."
So you would just take the witnesses word for it?
While i agree the you can't take every possibility you should at-least question the ones you do have. Witnesses are the obvious ones. Which is what the procedure is. If the witnesses hears noise but hasn't seen anything its not proof.
"You can't disprove this. You cannot. You have failed again and again."
Again this is your opinion i know you like to think you are the arbiter of facts but you are not. Again i simply disagree. Its been disproved. Witnesses do get questioned people do take many scenarios into account before they make the decision, for example the kid that said "let him have it" the decision to execute him was hasty because they used your old model before, to not question possibilities .
The problem with you is that you see an assaulted person come in the courts and see a person who has been accused by them and you immediately assume they did it. Based on the fact that the person has injuries. That's the problem.
Creating a case with situations is how all trials start and the job of the prosecutor is to create a case and the defendant has to break it down to convince the jury. because you don't believe in examining possibilities whats the point of a jury?
And this you base nothing on at all. Where do you get off accusing me of immediately assuming the accuser is guilty? Fucking nonsense. I only ever said that signs of forced entry are proof of non-consensual sex on the victim, but I never claimed that is proof that the accuser is the one who did it. No, what's true is that YOU see a woman with internal vaginal injuries and assume she's had rough sex and is lying. Now that is fucked up.
You mean the accused. Read it again. "The person who has been accused".
"No, what's true is that YOU see a woman with internal vaginal injuries and assume she's had rough sex and is lying. "
I don't assume because i never use the word proof as you do. The only person who assumes is you it always has been. I explore other possibilites. Nice try. But try harder. And swear more it might make me laugh more.
"Congratulations. You just admitted defeat by failing to respond. I'll try, as a courtesy, to dumb this down for you one last time."
So did you um yeah... something like that.
Seriously you cannot prove anything either bruised ego please lol. Next time you use an analogy make sure its actually one that fits well that's always the danger with these things. You think your on to something comparing apples to trees but you usually are not.
"I'm giving you an actual scenario where a man was heard by many witnesses making death threats and was last seen with the victims by the citizens or a police officer."
So the witnesses heard noises and threats? did they see who did it, now we have proof based on witness assumptions? please and now your chucking in a police officer. Look simple question did anyone see the person do it? its not called being a whore for conflict just because you don't like it.
(cont.) "Keep adding more things to it..." Exactly! Just like the adrenaline and rough sex bullshit. I refute every single one of your little arguments and come up with more maybes after another until you cam to a woman mutilating her own vagina to fake a rape. Wow. You're starting to become a fucking hypocrite. Keep ignoring the argument with your little diversions. I see straight through you. You're only indirectly admitting defeat.
I mean how can you have an actual scenario/case where there are so many added maybes everytime there is a rebuttal? maybe this, maybe that. If your gonna create a hypothetical situation at-least make it robust. Don't just dress it up to try and prove you are right about something, because if that's the case then you are really poor at this.
"I mean how can you have an actual scenario/case where there are so many added maybes everytime there is a rebuttal?"
Oh, Jesus, thank you! That is exactly what you've been doing this whole fucking time. Your hypothetical situations were so empty and irrational and without explanation. I asked for why a woman would continue sex bleeding and bruised and you say, "Maybe the adrenaline kept her from noticing". Another maybe after another and a lame scenario.
"Oh, Jesus, thank you! That is exactly what you've been doing this whole fucking time. Your hypothetical situations were so empty and irrational and without explanation. "
What a load of nonsense what you are doing is adding evidence that doesn't exist to a case. If there are witnesses to prove a murder you have to question them and find out if the story checks out. Its called examine the evidence. I never said anything about proof? you did. Big difference.
"Another maybe after another and a lame scenario."
Again nonsense. Exploring these scenarios is fine the problem with you is that you take these scenarios just like you take the bruising as proof.
I have every right to question them. If you have witnesses they need to be questioned. You don't see defeat in me trust me what i do see in you however is a desperate attempt to redress the same ideas of yours and pretend these are mine. That's not how you defeat someone. LOL
(cont.) For the last damn time, "possibilities" are not reasonable doubt because anything is possible! That is not how the court works, so stop making shit up. If a woman is proven to have been raped, and the accused man's semen is found in her, it's "possible" that he used a turkey baster to insert the semen of another man to frame him! This is the definitive hypocrisy in you I was talking about as this is the just kind of "maybe this, maybe that" thinking you criticized earlier!
@jayc342009 And where do you get that from? You're own personal guesses and make-shit-up-to-prove-an-argument methods? According to the FBI, rape accusations are only 8% of rape cases. Yes, they are rare, so do some research before you waste any more of my time.
@jayc342009 I truly do not know the ratio - I can only guess.
What I do know is that when people use laws as weapons against people, it destroys everything that law stands for.
If you falsely accuse someone of a crime, you should either face the penalty the accused would face or experience whatever crime you accused them of having commited.
In other words, someone who falsely accused someone of rape would have to choose between being raped or facing the same time in jail as a rapist.
@NoelBlueheart Proven false rape accusations are rare 8%, but that is largely because it is only recorded if someone actually stumbles into the deception. Reports of rape are not investigated beyond the guilt or innocence of the accused. If I'm not mistaken, of all rape allegations made, only 16% are convicted. That leaves 76% of cases which could be False reporting, free rapist or mis-identification. That's 33% of known outcomes are that of false accusations, anything else is "assumptions"
(cont.) Yes, you are mistaken because you fail to comprehend the meaning of statistics. A lack of conviction of the accused does not mean a rape is a false accusation. If that's the way it was, then you'd be implying our courts are infallible and never get it wrong. It means there wasn't enough evidence to convict. A false rape accusation is a rape report that fails to make it to court and is quickly recognized as unfounded.
@NoelBlueheart Typical. Accuse your opposition of "not understanding". IE, slander first, hope that diminishes credibility. Whatever... What you failed to miss is the basic math. If 16% of cases are proven to be rape, and 8% of cases are proven to be false (not just unfounded, but maliciously false. Unfounded are listed as unfounded), that means 1/3 of all cases who's outcome is known are maliciously false. The fact you would even try to make false rape accusations look like unproven rapes ...
(cont.) Are you mentally retarded? Or does it just suit your agenda to completely ignore an argument of mine? I told you that a rape case ending in not guilty verdict is *NOT* the same as a false accusation. The statistic of 8% comes from the reports of rape that are ruled unfounded - not without conviction. If you're going to continue this conversation with your fingers in your ears going la-la-la to everything that puts your ass in it's place, then you can just leave.
@NoelBlueheart Project much? But you are correct about 1 thing, the FBI doesn't track maliciously false accusations, which in and of itself is a problem, given false reporting is supposed to be a crime, and it certainly victimizes men. So you can claim false rape accusations are rare, but the fact is, our legal system refuses to even track it, so we can't know for sure. It also doesn't count women retracting their accusations as being unfounded or false. Being rare is just an empty assumption.
@NoelBlueheart "And it can't compare with what rape is - sexual pleasure from destroying another human being." Are you not aware of the financial gains that can be made through rape support programs? Are you denying the gratification of revenge that so many female music artists sing about? And please, enough of the melodrama. Epidemic? Destroying another human being? I find it interesting also, that you would deem a man's suffering from false accusations as less important then that of a woman's.
(cont2) What are you babbling about? Name which support programs profit off of rape victims and prove it. For you to earlier harass me for proof in what I said not directed to you and then state paranoid bullshit without any proof of your own is erroneous and embarrassing. Hold yourself to your own standards, please. You're comparing being falsely accused of rape to actually being raped? Yeah, and I guess you'd rather be murdered than falsely accused of murder. Unbelievable.
@NoelBlueheart Again, beginning with an insult. There are thousands of sexual assault programs sucking money from the VAWA teet. And that money isn't regulated, that's one of the issues Ted Poe has in congress regarding VAWA reform. And I notice you reworded my statement to say something else. I said there were financial gains to be made through programs, not that programs profit from. It's the people running the programs profiting, programs like unregulated VAWA is what allow it.
(cont2) Please. Don't play the victims. You may not have used any choice words, but the hostile attitude and overwhelming response of 5 posts you approached me with was an insult. Be civil with me and you won't get insulted based on your own behavior. If there are THOUSANDS of sexual assault programs that benefit from rape victims, surely you'd be able to name ONE? But you didn't. Hence, you are a liar and a coward who can't face up to his own standards for "proof".
@NoelBlueheart LOL now playing "you were mean first, be nice and I'll play nice".. FUCK you, hows that for civil. My challenging your opinions should not, in and of itself, be deemed hostile, and the fact I made 5 was simply a matter of catching up. But you clearly don't like your opinions challenged (your responses to the others here shows as much, your immediate hostility to me and choice to INSULT me, and be the first to insult me, confirms such. Fact is, you threw the first insult, first 8+
@NoelBlueheart As for someone that benefits (again, not from the victims themselves, but) from programs designed to help victims, RAINN and it's 1,102 are consistently granted funding from VAWA's Sexual Assault Services Program, and the more they can claim rape happens and that they are needed in order to help those victims come forward, the more money they get. But what I original meant by financial gains was what can be gained in civil suits by "the victim", with Rape prgrams paying legal fees
@NoelBlueheart As to your analogy... 1: Murder ends ones life, they are not able to rebuild themselves after murder. 2: False allegations of murder carry no stigma, allegations of rape follow you for the rest of your life. I would rather be murdered then be falsely accused of rape. Let me ask you, would you rather be abused or falsely accused of infant child abuse? That's closer, given the stigma involved, though you would still have court bias in your favor, looking to blame some man.
(cont3) Child molestation or sexual assault ends a life. Victim are never same. They develop phobias and have difficulty trusting. To be raped and made to feel like nothing but an object with no rights over your own body is much worse than being falsely accused of something. Funny, even in rape cases which are proven it's the victims that carry the stigma of being a whore or a liar and the rapists live on just fine. No, you got it backwards. Look up the story of the Silsbee Texas cheerleader.
@NoelBlueheart "Child molestation or sexual assault ends a life." So do false allegations. That's what you seem unable to understand. Have you even read an account of a falsely accused? are you so unsympathetic as to not understand the violation a falsely accused goes through? Everything you claim a rape victim feels is suffered too by the falsely accused, along with a permanent sicko stigma, huge legal bills, and virtually no chance of getting justice. Why do you deny male victims exist?
@JayantKumarZ Rape *IS* difficult to prove. False rape accusations are only 8% of rape cases (according to the FBI, that's where I get that) and yes the common sentence for rape is 5-10 years. I suggest you do some research before you take in on yourself to just disagree with everything I say. I also suggest you stop making up figures and numbers to prove your point - which if you have to make up statistics to do so then it's obvious you are wrong.
@NoelBlueheart many forms of rape are very easy to prove if the victim acts immediately. It is people like you, that keep telling them the cops and laws are biased against them and won't believe them, that turn the victims away from police help. This is done in order to garner support, not for the victims, but for the causes that make money off those victims. And the truth is, if false allegations were punished, the false accusations would drop off the statistics, making these people obsolete.
(cont3) "People like you" is a ridiculous thing to say to someone based on a single Youtube post, dipshit. I never said the laws or biased and that people won't believe them. Keep your straw-man arguments out of here if you want to converse with me and be taken seriously. And what is the innocent project, pray tell, and what innocent men were released? It may suit your arguments to make shit up but the only one you're impressing is yourself.
@NoelBlueheart You've posted more then one. Furthermore, you proved me right in your (Cont1) response earlier where you say exactly what I accused you of saying, IE, when you said "false allegations are just rape reports that were quickly deemed unfounded". Even acknowledged false allegations are still considered actual rapes that just got covered up too quickly for you. You seem virtually incapable of acknowledging that women LIE, and rape accusations are a huge reve
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hurc662000 1 week ago
Her body may go through the changes but his wallet will be going through all the hurt.
DoItYouWont100 2 weeks ago
men have no rights until its time to pay up xD
MPSecare 1 month ago
you are so right dear !!
sadly these evil acts of feminism has spread all over the world and its not just America !
I see it here in Asia too :/
though Hats off to you Lady for speaking out the truth so boldly :)
shahminhajuddin 1 month ago
I couldn't agree with you more and I wish more women, especially my ex and and the mother of my daughter, were more like you. I have had to spend literally thousands of dollars just to see my daughter every other weekend and when I do see her, I can't really do anything with her, when it comes to anything that cost money, because the ex is draining me through child support. It really sucks to be a man and on the receiving end of family courts and domestic relations.
MrSleepJunkie 1 month ago
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Here is an experiment:
1.Take any sentence made by a feminist that involves the word man.
2. Replace the word man with the word jew.
All of the sudden it sounds kind of racist right?
Feminism is not about equal rights anymore, its about demonizing men and promoting women regardless of their individual actions through hate propaganda.
Same methods as religious fundamentalism or any dictatorship of the past.
PendulumEffecter 1 month ago
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We treat feminism in the same way we treat racism,
We scrutinize any person for feminist opinion,
We refuse to cooperate with a person with feminist opinions,
We ignore and prevent any action from a feminist.
We defend ourselves together against any feminist attack.
We push back the pendulum to that of which feminism has crossed the line.
BUT WE DO NOT MAKE THE FEMINIST MISTAKE OF ATTACKING THE FEMINIST AFTER DEFEATED, WE ONLY BOYCOTT AND STEP AWAY TOGETHER.
PendulumEffecter 1 month ago
i try saying that to one of my friends but she believes that just because women are the ones carrying the child men shouldn't have any rights at all
TrueBlueCanuck 1 month ago
@TrueBlueCanuck that's why men need not reproduce with women like that
gokuudo 1 month ago
@gokuudo thank you defending men's rights btw
TrueBlueCanuck 1 month ago
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SPEAK UP AND TELL THE WORLD YOUR GREAT OPINION. You are right! Tell them off!
Keep spreading the word of the hypocrisy of feminism.
crangdaniel 2 months ago
On the thought of men and abortion. It used to be that a child born outside the legal contract of marriage was not entitled to any of the Fathers income. That is what a bastard was. The courts changed it somewhere along the line.
TheKuffarKid 2 months ago
it is something like you don't love me (the mother) and to hear my son crying to her saying yes I do love you but I just want to talk to daddy,
I have caught one of these things happening on my answering machine.
Because my son wanted to spend some time with me through the summer holiday he was told if he spent the weekend with me he was not allowed to go to swimming lessons.
When men bring up isses of equal shared parenting these types of experiences are ignored by it detractors.
mraNewfoundland 2 months ago
My oldest is already showing signs of parental alienation syndrome. The youngest twin girls one cries to see me the other is autistic and when ever I do see her it is as if I am a stranger to her because we have not had the bonding time that I have had with older kids.
the middle kid my son has (unbeknown to his mother) called me only to get caught and to hear her yelling at him and hear him crying saying he just wanted to talk to daddy .
Here is the kicker when he wants to talk to me...
mraNewfoundland 2 months ago
when I call the authorities they just say contact a lawyer. Fine but by the time this got into court my lawyer tells me that I was not the primary care parent because for the year that it took this to get to court the children were in the care of the mother.
My hands have been tied I have no legal remedy and how I have to listen to my kids crying because they want to see daddy and they can't because mom won't let it happen. see more above.
mraNewfoundland 2 months ago
I too was a stay at home dad I did all the cooking the cleaning the packing of lunches the makeing sure the kids got off to school safely and home safely. I did all that was some may call women's work (I don't call it womens work it is house work and takeing care of your kids)
My wife was the working parent because he job had slightly higher pay and much better benefits that benefits the whole family. When she left I come home to an empty house. Her and the kids gone ^
mraNewfoundland 2 months ago
EQUALITY HAS NO GENDER!
WarmachineVengeance 2 months ago
Thanks so much for this, and speaking your truth. I respect you greatly for having the guts to say you're not a feminist, because of the extremes of male-bashing they go to, yet obviously you don't support men abusing women (and neither do I). We really need more American women to have the courage to speak up, because when it's only men who are disagreeing with feminism, we're accused of "hating women"/being chauvinists, and other bullsh#t- to avoid the real issue. Blessed be you. :O))
bookguitarguy 2 months ago
i start to get mad about feminist, male-bashing hypocrisy. then i realize that not only are men waking up to it, but women like yourself are as well. the truth will prevail. we men are too smart, energetic, and talented to let it go to far. it won't happen feminazis.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
pecker....haha. props on video
Justin054J54 3 months ago
You should meet my sister in law. She makes your husbands ex look tame. Is always late dropping the kids off, always abuses him when he drops them off late, which is rare. he misses one payment by as little as a day, still pays just a day late, and she goes off at him for that too. He took thier daughter to the doctor once and she threatened to take him to court over it "because it wasn't her regular doctor", who happened to be 4 hours away, one way.
davidsfriend01 3 months ago
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Thank god for people like you
megaoprahwinfrey 3 months ago
i dont believe in equality, man r superior to women in certain aspect, and women are pertient for other things. equal rights for honorable rights is good but other than that, it's concession from men.
warrior4just 3 months ago
You should just go to the courts without a lawyer. You don't need a lawyer if his ex-wife blatantly disregards court orders. If you have copies of those court orders, you can just go to the courts and hopefully put his ex-wife in jail
KhagarBalugrak 3 months ago
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i laugh at you and your ideas of equality it will never happen
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powermediaworks 3 months ago
menimist
joc69uk32 4 months ago
Gender rights is a bunch of shit. A good childhood friend of mine grew up to be very successful. He got married at 27 and had a kid at 28. He got divorced at 30 and she took almost everything. Now he's back home living with his parents paying the bitch he married money to raise a kid he can never see, and this guy is great, the women is psychotic, yet she has the kid... Since this happened to him I've been a strong supporter of men's rights. He would be too if his soul wasn't so shattered.
carlinsaves 4 months ago
@carlinsaves do many women really do this?
beautifulstar33 4 months ago
@beautifulstar33 umm I don't think so. I hope not anyway. Some women are good and some are bad, just like men. I just think the law allows women to ruin a mans life if she wants and the man is pretty much defenceless. Like, for example, a women can accuse me of raping her. If she wins (she probably will), I go to jail, if she's outed as a fake, she won't get in trouble. I don't think that's fair. But the vast majority of women I know are awesome people. My problem is with the law, not women.
carlinsaves 4 months ago
@carlinsaves i think that's terrible. but i know many women can be vicious too, as well as men. that's why i think men shouldn't think with their dicks all the time. if she refuses protection, say good-bye fast. i think women who falsely accuse men of rape should be in trouble & get some jail time. on a side note, how coem this doesn't happen in countries like trinidad or nepal?
beautifulstar33 4 months ago
@carlinsaves i mean, in trinidad or nepal, as well as jamaica and japan, if women act this way, the men don't stand for it. why? evern in my culture, generally(albeit not always), if women act too out of line, the men can hit us. why the difference?
beautifulstar33 4 months ago
@beautifulstar33 Yes, that's very wrong and sad. I'm adressing American law and American women. I agree with you that women in those countries need more rights and it's terrible the way they're treated. Still though, just because other people have it worse, doesn't mean I should abandon true justice in my own country. You're point is a good one but a little off topic, I think.
carlinsaves 4 months ago
@carlinsaves I'm not saying men should be treated like dirt, why do u think that? I think men should be respected more, a lot more. Do you know men have fallen behind iun education compared to woemn in europe/US?Australia? Won't uit hurt us all if that happens? In trinidad, a man who beat his wife & threatened her with a knife was just given a $100 fine and told to avoid her, nothign else, what do u say to that
beautifulstar33 4 months ago
@beautifulstar33 I don't think that you think men should be treated like dirt. You seem like a smart person, I'm sure you agree with equality. I believe in my country some aspects of the law favors women way more than men, which is wrong, and in other countries, like Trinidad, it's the opposite, men have all the rights, and that's even more wrong than what I'm fighting for. The things I read about how women are treated there is very sad.
carlinsaves 4 months ago
@carlinsaves thanks. I try to as far as i can./ was the west always this way with men? Yes, in trinidad and Guyana, japan, Armenia, etc, men don't tolerate this stuff. in fact, the police commissioner of guyana beats his wife and has the backing of some politicians! men CAN HIT Us if they choose too, albeit it's strongly discouraged usually. in the west too, ppl from these countries practice this too. I know my family kind of does. how did u know that trinidad and guyana are tougher on women?
beautifulstar33 4 months ago
@beautifulstar33 (continued) I think the answer is culture. Men and women are use to that kind of life in other countries, and they're use to the life we have here. I think it's time the whole world abandons all these old traditions and start respecting eachother equally.
carlinsaves 4 months ago
@beautifulstar33 btw, I missed the point of why you said that when I first read it. Sorry about that. Your point isn't off topic.
carlinsaves 4 months ago
If there is any hope whatsoever for American females, it lies with their supporting fathers rights, and equal rights for men in general. Failing to support men in this manner will result in the "marriage strike" continuing and worsening. Current projections will have a statistical zero marriage rate by 2030.
gulskjegg 4 months ago
@gulskjegg Also, note that while this is occuring, men from westernized countries are pursuing dating and marriage from non-westernized foreign countries as the alternative to the american/western woman.
ApollosInsight 4 months ago
@ApollosInsight Yup! And that is why I married a foreign girl. The looks of pure hate and fear we get from American females is worth the $80,000 and two years of my life I spent in the Former Soviet Union. American men need to comprehend that we have so many awesome options with foreign women. Conversely, American females are loathed and despised throughout the entire world, this have virtually no options with foreign men. Sounds like victory to me.
gulskjegg 4 months ago
@gulskjegg Yeah, the problem w/ feminism is that there are so many contradictions that they've created...
They claim to be independent, yet still want men to pay their way. They claim that marriage is oppressive, yet single mothers are STILL trying to marry a well-off guy. And they claim that we as men are sexist towards them, yet they raise hell b/c we marry foreign women.
I say that American/western women are the ONLY culprits of their own demise.
ApollosInsight 4 months ago
@ApollosInsight Excellent points all, but personally I think the quicker feminism meets its demise, the better off we will all be. That is why I encourage American females to act as feminist (re: stupid) as possible. The facts are clear, marriage rates are the lowest in the history of Western Civilization. Instead of trumpeting this as a victory, feminists whine and complain that they cant find a good man. I say we give the modern feminist the husband she so richly deserves. None!
gulskjegg 4 months ago
Also, if either the man or a woman is likely to become homeless, hungry or without medical care, and the other person can afford it, there should be some alimony in that case - but only enough to preserve the safety of the other person. And women should have to pay alimony too if a man is going to become homeless or starve. We should all help each other. Life isn't only about protecting and helping women; it's about helping and protecting men, nature, all races, etc.
KhagarBalugrak 4 months ago
Men are also second-class citizens when it comes to divorce and alimony. How is it fair that men have to fork over almost everything they have to a woman if they get a divorce, even if the divorce is caused by the woman's boredom or infidelity? Alimony should be abolished. Any abusiveness or the part of the man OR THE WOMAN can and should be penalized by existing laws pertaining to civil court, but turning men into slaves for women via alimony and child support is fascist.
KhagarBalugrak 4 months ago
why cant women and men get treated equally girls (femnists) cry about how men are sexist agaisnt women but yet there the most sexist people today
kurtanglerocks555 4 months ago
I commend you for being a female and admitting you know the truth. And no hostility to you, but the only females that admit to this bias against men are the females like you who are a wife/girlfriend of a man who is going through it. Your husbands ex sounds like the typical psycho...has he ever had to deal with being accused of domestic violence? If he hasn't, he should consider himself lucky. Women everyday are lying to police to get men arrested for domestic violence. Again, thanks for truth.
formula112967 4 months ago
I was looking at the painting all the way through.
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FeminismIsRespect 4 months ago
If the woman isn't using birth control, the baby was not an accident nor was it unplanned.
psx2514 4 months ago
@psx2514: But it could be unwanted...
FeminismIsRespect 4 months ago
@FeminismIsRespect Women who have sex without using their own form of birth control want to have a baby.
psx2514 4 months ago
@psx2514 and the same could be said for men. also birth control isn't 100% effective.
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Silent1Seven 4 months ago
Yes a man should have say in to birth or not to birth. How about when they do plan for children, he works and saves for years, renovates the house, pours himself into the lan to have children. They get pregnant,, but she changes her mind three to four months into the pregnancy and has an abortion or decides she wants a divorce. All of his work goes to crap. She gets support plus maintenance
alldadsunited 4 months ago
Thank You
alldadsunited 4 months ago
Men's power.
Men have the right to absolutely refuse to make a child with a any woman. This is done through prevention by whatever means necessary. DO NOT fail here.
Do not marry, no exceptions.
In relationships demand fair, equal treatment. Mutual respect mutual compensation as you see fit. If she fails to live up to her responsibility WALK AWAY.
Any deviation to this will risk the rest of your life to potentially being manipulated by a woman and the state.
You have been warned.
embracingreality 5 months ago
This is a great video. You make points that need to be made.
AnonymousViewer1000 6 months ago
For those of you who don't know - /watch?v=HXeszLlTX5E
jayc342009 6 months ago
It's not just about children and rape accusations. If we both whare on a sinking ship, and only room for one more person in the lifeboat, who do you think would have to go down with the ship? If there's a war, who do you think would be sent to the front to die in honour and glory?
HaakonTheViking 6 months ago
Good that this woman sees this problem
MrJlin1982 6 months ago 7
Finally a women who gets it. Yay.
matt55102 6 months ago 2
All women are BITCHES and I love fucking BITCHES, All Men are Bastards and I am PROUD TO BE A BASTARD. LOL
777ELDEMONIO 6 months ago
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I wish everyone can learn from you. Together we will all be equalists.
lizardgizzard108 6 months ago
now there is a new term: Equalitist.
MWcrazyhorse 6 months ago
I think your what women should all be like, but please remove the piercing in your tongue.
jayc342009 7 months ago
not even when it comes to accusations:
A woman got 1 year imprisonment for falsely accusing 6 men for her rape.
If she was taken right, they all would get life imprisonment....
6 lives vs. 1 year jail? Too little risk eh? Everyone will lie then.
JayantKumarZ 7 months ago
@JayantKumarZ I don't think so. Firstly, rape is an extremely difficult thing to prove. It is therefore impossible to prove a rape that didn't happen. The only way one could is if cops planted evidence. Secondly, false rape accusations are much less common than rape itself and therefore less of a problem. Thirdly, no one gets life in prison for rape. You might not even do any time. That's a sad fact. Caught with drugs? You might get 20 years. Brutually rape a woman? Might get 5 years.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart Difficult to prove? maybe... unless the court wants to give justice that is. much less common? where did you get that? and thirdly.... 5 years? you fooling yourself? all get atleast 25 years, 2ndly chance to be proven innocent even if you are, is literally 5%. come to my country if you can live after a rape accusation. trust me you get 30% times life, 50% times 30+ years, and 10% time even death. Brutally? she will be wandering in a hotel just 10 days after rape... vs life. my ass
JayantKumarZ 6 months ago
@JayantKumarZ There is no maybe about that, sweetheart. The standards of proof on rape are very low and it's a he-said-she-said situation, so yes it is very hard to prove. A woman is raped in this country ever 26 seconds, and that's just the one that are reported and convicted - leaving out the ones that don't get reported and the rapists who go free. Only about 8% of reported rapes are unfounded, and unfounded is a lose term which means the statistic could be much lower.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart You just said it's hard to prove, and follow up by claiming a statistic as extreme as every 26 seconds... Where's the proof? You can't honestly expect me to believe a number like that without proof? Or is that your intention, to claim it's to hard to prove, so one must have faith to believe such numbers. Faith that people don't lie. Faith people won't try to make money off the backs of victims. faith in human decency (not to do above), and simultaneously, in lack thereof (to rape)
MNeilGri 5 months ago
@MNeilGri Don't interrupt a conversation of mine piously demanding proof and saying "you can't honestly expect me to believe a number like that" when I wasn't speaking to you. You have fingers an obviously access to a computer. Look it up. I got that statistics from the FBI, so take a hike. And what are you rambling on about? Do me a favor and read my posts clearly before you start engaging me based on nonsense.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart If you wanted this conversation to be private, you should NOT have posted it to a public comments board. Grow up! Also, I noted that you claimed it was difficult to prove and then suggested you had a proven statistic, which would be a contradiction of your first statement. If you had proof that that women were ACTUALLY raped every 26 seconds (US or worldwide? Actual rape or just unwanted sexual advances), then it would also count as proof in court, would t now? typical avoidance
MNeilGri 5 months ago
I never wanted a private conversation. Another straw-man! But you butting into it demanding proof for something when I never said it TO YOU is hilarious and a blunder. I already gave you proof of this statistics and you, either out of sheer laziness or fear of finding out you're wrong, obviously didn't look it up. If you can't accomplish a simple task like that then don't even bother conversing with me, halfwit. I told you the source is the FBI. Look it up, dipshit!
NoelBlueheart 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart You referred to it as a conversation of "yours" and told me not to interrupt it. Furthermore, you still consider my commenting "butting in". Do you understand the concept of a comments section? It isn't a one on one conversation, it is a open declaration of your opinions, open to anyone and everyone to challenge. But you don't like that do you, having your opinions challenged. the amount of cussing and insults in every comment shows you don't handle confrontation and dissent well.
MNeilGri 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart And you're completely missing the point (and you call me stupid). You are contradicting yourself. A claim of 1 rape every 26 seconds (that's 1.2 million/year, or 90 million over a 75 year lifespan, which is more then the typical 1/4. Feminist math never does add up) would indicate that rape is in fact easy to prove (which is opposite of what you claimed), ether that or the 26 second claim isn't based on proof. Which is it? Is rape easy to prove or are your statistic assumptions?
MNeilGri 4 months ago
@JayantKumarZ As for sentencing, no it is not 25 years. The average sentencing for rape in the US is six to nine years, most of that time being served on paper and rapists being let out early on good behavior. And please, 5%, 30%, 50% and 10%? You're just making up figures to support your arguments. None of that is factual or verifiable. I've gotten all of my statistics from the FBI. Where do you get yours? No rapists ever get life! You are full of shit.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart point proven. did you see? or more accurately... can you?
JayantKumarZ 6 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Sir, you have no point! I provided facts from the FBI and realities about rape, false rape accusations, proving rape, and the sentences for rape. Your point, what ever it was, was never proven. Why can't you accept that false rape accusations are not as big a problem as rape itself? That doesn't mean false rape accusations are not wrong. I'm not saying that out of sexism or feminism. I'm saying that because of the facts!
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart false rape accusations are women's version of raping men. just as important and devastating in the public's eyes.
MonsterSawce 6 months ago
@MonsterSawce Ha! Yeah fucking right. False rape accusations are A) very rare(only 8%) and B) it's impossible to prove a rape that didn't happen. Seriously, I think falsely accusing a man of rape is wrong for many reasons. It demonizes and ruins his reputation and it makes real rape harder to prove. However, it cannot be compared to the overwhelming epidemic of sexual violence in this country. And it can't compare with what rape is - sexual pleasure from destroying another human being.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart "B) it's impossible to prove a rape that didn't happen."
Similarly, it is impossible to prove that consent wasn't given. The justice system doesn't perfectly prove things, it only need to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt.
didles123 6 months ago
@didles123 It is not *IMPOSSIBLE* to prove that consent isn't given. Things like bruises from forced entry are obvious signs of forcible rape. The only problem when proving consent is when the assailant uses a weapon to threaten and keep the victim still and there are no bruises from forcing himself into her.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart But none of that proves that consent wasn't given. Even with larceny for example, it can't be proven that there wasn't an agreement before hand allowing the taking of the item. We have to make common sense inferences. Just as we can infer that bruising indicates non-consensual sex, we can reasonably infer that if the a rape accusation is false if evidence blatantly contradicts the accusation.
didles123 6 months ago
@didles123 You're telling me bruises and blood around and in the vagina where the man forced himself into her doesn't prove consent wasn't given? You're full of shit and you know nothing about sexual violence or the legal system. Just fuck off already. You're completely out of your league with me.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart You can't play the absolute skeptic card on one issue and not the other. You said it's impossible to prove that a rape didn't happen, which is only true if you're an absolute skeptic. If a woman claims to have been raped around a certain time and place, and there is evidence that she was miles away from said place at said time, how does it not prove the accusation to be false beyond a reasonable doubt? You're equally full of shit.
didles123 6 months ago
@didles123 Why can't I? And it's not skepticism in the first place. It's realism. And I think you have a major, pathetic problem with paying attention and reading comprehension. I did *NOT* say "it's impossible to disprove a false rape accusation". I said it's nearly impossible to prove a false rape accusation. Know what the hell I said before you attack me for it, cretin.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart truth said.
DaGaDaN95 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
Hang on a sec injury during sex doesn't automatically mean rape. Virgin women can bleed and bruise during their first time. People who have rough sex both male and female bruises bleeding can happen.
Has to be a proof of some sort of struggle here where consent wasn't given etc.
One can consent to being in handcuffs during sex and still get wrist injuries doesn't mean they haven't consented or withdrawn consent.
Consensual sex is still an activity where injuries can happen.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@stupidfeminazifoolz Breaking of the hemin or vaginal skin is completely different. It is not an injury and it does not cause bruises. If a woman was having sex rough enough to cause bleeding and bruises, she would not enjoy it and tell the man to stop because of the pain. That's fucking ridiculous. It sound like you know next to nothing about the opposite sex.
Bruises and signs of forced entry are proof of a struggle! Fucking except it.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
Sorry but it isn't always the case bruises happen sex is an activity where injury happens. It isn't proof. You have to prove its a struggle. Rough sex can injure someone it happens you need to accept that.
If she doesn't say stop etc it isn't rape. A bruise is caused when soft tissues are bumped causing small capillaries and veins to break this can happen during sex.
Swearing won't get your point across but it is kinda hilarious you sound like you might have a stroke take care
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
You are so fucking delusional. Talking to you is like banging your head against a wall! This is a fact. I don't care what you damn opinions are, but if a woman is bruised on the outside of her vagina and around the lips that is proof of forced entry. Ordinary sex where the woman is not struggling and the man is not forcing his penis into her vagina cannot cause these type of bruise consistencies. If someone was having sex THAT ROUGH the woman would be in pain and stop. She would not enjoy it!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
Also just because the vaginal walls isn't damaged, bruised or bleeding it doesn't mean the woman hasn't been raped either.
Another reason: who's to say the woman didn't injure her vagina after sex just make the man guilty. Some women can be deceitful.
Rape is hard to prove and much more complex than he did it he's guilty. Like i said has to be proof that there was some sort of struggle and/or consent wasn't given but undoubtedly where consent wasn't given.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.) At this point, you're saying that it's more likely that a woman enjoys having her vagina rammed to the point of being bruised and bleeding or she's crazy enough to do it herself to frame a man for rape than if she had actually been raped? Morons like you are the reason why rape victims don't report it and are so afraid to for risk of being belittled and called a liar. You're coming up with every possible scenario BUT a rape scenario. Injuries are proof of battery and forced entry! END!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
" you're saying that it's more likely that a woman enjoys having her vagina rammed to the point of being bruised and bleeding
No i clearly stated that im more likely to believe the victim based on their injuries and location with the accused etc and I need proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
"she's crazy enough to do it herself to frame a man for rape than if she had actually been raped? "
Again its a scenario you have to consider given the evidence. You can't assume things.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.2) Correction - it is far, far, FAR more likely that she's a rape victim than she actually enjoys having her vagina annihilated to point of severe internal injury or that she would have the insanity of doing it to herself for attention. It's not a scenario you have to consider because if a woman did it to herself the injury consistences would be a lot different than if it was done by a third party male. Doubting a rape victims does *NOT* help. It causes fear in rape victims of reporting.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"it is far, far, FAR more likely that she's a rape victim than she actually enjoys having her vagina annihilated to point of severe internal injury or that she would have the insanity of doing it to herself for attention."
I agree with you, but i would never call it an open shut case unless i explore all the possibilities, you may not like that because you may think every woman is angel who would never lie, but that's called a fair trial.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
If police spent time exploring all possibilities including outlandish ones like yours they would waste a lot of tax payer money and they would waste a lot of time solving the case to it's actual conclusion. Why do you insist that I'm only looking at the woman's angle just because I, as the law agrees, say that internal vaginal bleeding and bruising is proof of nonconsensual sex? No, to consider something that irrational is unfair to the victims, and an advantage to the accused - not fairness!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
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@NoelBlueheart
"If police spent time exploring all possibilities including outlandish ones like yours they would waste a lot of tax payer money and they would waste a lot of time solving the case to it's actual conclusion. "
So its about time and money not justice and fairness. OK.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
Anyway im done im not gonna have a long drawn out discussion with you anymore i feel we will go around in circles and false rape accusing/rape trials is only small part of the topics in this video. Plus other people should comment too, rather than have 2 people dominate this board imo.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.) I'll take that as "I lose". The only person who kept this drawn out was you in your stubbornness and inability counter my arguments or defend your own. So far the only thing you've contributed is broad speculation about the female sex life and proposing outlandish, irrational events as "reasonable doubt". Perhaps it is best you just leave with your tail between your legs.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"If a woman was having sex rough enough to cause bleeding and bruises, she would not enjoy it and tell the man to stop because of the pain. "
How do we know she is aware she is in pain what about adrenaline? Rough sex can be extremely vigorous. A small tear that gradually opens up is harder to notice
Its not the first time a woman hasn't stopped because she didn't enjoy it, you hear many stories of women later regretting having sex with whoever despite consenting all the way.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.2) Now, really, you are sounding fucking stupid. You are going to EXTREMES to avoid ruling it a rape scenario. Adrenaline does not prevent you from having pain in vulnerable places. I suppose if a man was full of adrenaline he wouldn't feel it if I punched him in the nuts? NO! Same with a woman. I have had rough sex before, and I can tell you AS A WOMAN that you're full of shit. Yes, it would hurt. You're not a woman and you don't know what it's like to have a vagina. So can it.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
We are just going around in circles. You claim that "ALL" will stop if they don't enjoy it, i don't buy that, you talking about yourself and comparing all women to you again this is nonsense not all women are the same.
"I suppose if a man was full of adrenaline he wouldn't feel it if I punched him in the nuts? NO!"
Now you know everything about the male body despite having a female body talk about being a hypocrite. Besides its not the point some men enjoy that kind of pain.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
And you claim you know what's in like to be a woman and that it's like to be one having sex. You're comparing all women to your fucked up, delusional ideas about them that are dead wrong. I guarantee you, if a woman is having sex and her vagina starts bruising and bleeding she will be in agony and she will stop. Like I said, if all police and doctors accuse a woman with severe injuries to her vagina of having rough sex before they considered rape, no rape charges would ever be made!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"You are going to EXTREMES to avoid ruling it a rape scenario."
No im looking at the all the possible outcomes to determine the fairest outcome. Rape is a crime that has to be fully evaluated just like gbh assault etc.
You seem to want to rule it a rape scenario no matter what. Like I said proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This conversation is over, worried about your health, sound like your gonna explode. Im getting bored I can't stand emotional wrecks and you sound like one.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.) If a man was found with a knife with the victim's blood, blood on his clothes, had made death threats, and was seen with the victim last, it is POSSIBLE that he stumbled upon the body and picked up the knife and held the victim's body. Anything is possible. However, possible as it may be, it is IRRATIONAL and highly unlikely just like a crying, hysterical woman beaten with internal vaginal injuries having rough sex is IRRATIONAL and highly unlikely. It's not REASONABLE DOUBT.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"If a man was found with a knife with the victim's blood, blood on his clothes, had made death threats, and was seen with the victim last, it is POSSIBLE that he stumbled upon the body and picked up the knife and held the victim's body. "
That doesn't make sense "had made death threats?" how do you know this.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
As far as making threats, I'm talking about multiple people hearing him threaten to kill to man. But you know, it is possible be that he meant it out of frustration, was hanging out with the guy that night to make amends, left to pee or buy a beer, and came back to find him dead and got blood on him, picked up the knife, and drove in his truck with the knife to go to the police station before being pulled over. It is possible, right? But it is very irrational and not reasonable doubt!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
So there were witnesses. Right and what proof do the witness have that the voice belonged to this man? Did anyone see him do the crime?
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
I dunno for some reason given the way this conversation is going I get the sense I'm feeding a troll, besides that you are unbelievably rude. The hell with this I'm done talking to you. I can see it's pointless. Good Day.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
That being said, I am more likely to believe a woman has been raped based on her injuries, the location with the accused etc but it still has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt she didn't consent.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.3) "Reasonable doubt" is subjective and flawed. Reasonable doubt for you is not the same as it is for someone else. If we went by your guidelines, rapists would never be convicted. How many rapists would be caught if police and doctors looked at a girl crying and hysterical with a bleeding and bruised vagina and said, "Oh, she could have been having rough sex or inflicted it on herself to frame him." None! Not only that, but that is evil and insensitive. So fuck you!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
(cont.) Your very moronic user name spells out how biased and unreasonable you are. Stop coming up with outlandish scenarios that even if possible are trivial in their possibility compared to rape being the culprit, and educate yourself about women and anatomy. Why would a woman have bruises and bleeding if the man was not forcing himself into her - especially OUTSIDE of her vagina? He's have to be going 100mph and have the strength of a bull to do that consensually. Fucking shut up.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Your very moronic user name spells out how biased and unreasonable you are."
This didn't stop you debating or discussing with me before. It really goes to show that when you can't win over the other person with you arguments you throw temper tantrums, threats and insults. Pathetic really. You need to grow up.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.4) What you think is "reasonable doubt" is obviously irrational. For the 12th time, it is very UNREASONABLE to say that a woman with severe internal injuries exactly consistent with forced entry was just having rough sex or did it to herself. That is not reasonable doubt. You're full of shit. Obviously, the people in the law know better than you and they do consider forced entry injuries proof, so you think you know better than they do? Fucking can it.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"You're full of shit"
Lol you give me a scenario and assume they person gave death threats as a fact. That is nonsense.
Here are the facts to your own made up case.
Man found with knife with the victims blood, blood on his clothes,
Now:
seen with victim last? by who? Your assumption that he made death threats comes from what exactly?
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@stupidfeminazifoolz This isn't an assumption. I'm giving you an actual scenario where a man was heard by many witnesses making death threats and was last seen with the victims by the citizens or a police officer. Stop trying to pick apart a fucking hypothetical situation. Maybe the guy was video taped making threats and seen on a security camera with the victims hours before his death. Stop being a whore for conflict and trying to argue over EVERYTHING!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Stop being a whore for conflict and trying to argue over EVERYTHING!"
Again all this tells me is that you want to end cases quickly because it gets too complicated for you when there is conflict. There is a reason why the jury is a group and they have to unanimously vote.
"Stop trying to pick apart a fucking hypothetical situation."
It has been picked apart. Keep adding more things to it, whats next maybe the security camera recorded him murdering the victim right?
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.) No, the problem is that I give you a hypothetical situation in which a man is obviously guilty and I use YOUR LOGIC to show you how anything is possible but not likely or rational or worthy of reasonable doubt. To avoid this argument for which you cannot give and have not given a reply, you start irrelevantly picking the scenario apart. Even still you haven't answered to this argument. You just use diversion like the dishonest cretin you are.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Even still you haven't answered to this argument. You just use diversion like the dishonest cretin you are."
I have answered the argument. You still treat every scenario as proof. That's your problem not mine. Whether your the prosecution or defendant i will treat you the same when it comes to statements. Your the one who treats defendants and prosecutors differently not me so you see a hypocrisy based on your ideology not mine. It shocks you that i treat it the same.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@stupidfeminazifoolz You never answered to how your argument bases "reasonable doubt" on possibility when anything is possible but "reasonable doubt" is only what is likely or rational. That's what my analogy demonstrated. Do that now, or disappear with your head hung low and your ego bruised. The only thing you did was try to manipulate the analogy, but you did NOT ANSWER TO IT'S PURPOSE!
Do it now, and if you don't, you indirectly admit you are wrong. Just try it.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Do it now, and if you don't, you indirectly admit you are wrong. Just try it."
What are you on about? seriously?
"The only thing you did was try to manipulate the analogy, but you did NOT ANSWER TO IT'S PURPOSE!"
You mean to your purpose which was what? What was your analogy? to compare a guy who knifed a another person to a rape victim? i don't think it was a good analogy to begin with.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Do that now, or disappear with your head hung low and your ego bruised. "
Hmm now that you mention it maybe ill stick around I am getting a good laugh out of this.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"I use YOUR LOGIC to show you how anything is possible but not likely or rational or worthy of reasonable doubt. "
No you used your own logic on my statements. You apparently set a trap which failed badly dunno why your celebrating. Again if I'm going to question the accuser, why shouldn't i question the defendants. Things can always be fabricated on both ends.
Like i said before you sound like a troll.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
Congratulations. You just admitted defeat by failing to respond. I'll try, as a courtesy, to dumb this down for you one last time.
You said that any possibility is reasonable doubt. I showed you how even when a man is obviously guilty there is always a possibility or, as you said, a "maybe", but that possibilities are not reasonable doubt. Only what is likely or rational is.
You cannot prove a single thing you said to me. Take your bruised ego and begone.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
" I showed you how even when a man is obviously guilty there is always a possibility or, as you said, a "maybe", but that possibilities are not reasonable doubt. Only what is likely or rational is."
Is it wrong to question those possibilities? Like i said why does witnesses have to be proof. Why can't you use reasonable doubt on testimonies.
Again what does a man with a knife scenario got in common with a rape victim? its your "analogy" after all.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@stupidfeminazifoolz It is wrong to question possibilities because anything is always possible. It is also flawed to consider a possibility, not a rational likelihood, "reasonable doubt" because in every single situation there are possibilities and maybes, but those aren't proof or disproof of anything. You can't disprove this. You cannot. You have failed again and again.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"It is wrong to question possibilities because anything is always possible."
So you would just take the witnesses word for it?
While i agree the you can't take every possibility you should at-least question the ones you do have. Witnesses are the obvious ones. Which is what the procedure is. If the witnesses hears noise but hasn't seen anything its not proof.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"You can't disprove this. You cannot. You have failed again and again."
Again this is your opinion i know you like to think you are the arbiter of facts but you are not. Again i simply disagree. Its been disproved. Witnesses do get questioned people do take many scenarios into account before they make the decision, for example the kid that said "let him have it" the decision to execute him was hasty because they used your old model before, to not question possibilities .
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
The problem with you is that you see an assaulted person come in the courts and see a person who has been accused by them and you immediately assume they did it. Based on the fact that the person has injuries. That's the problem.
Creating a case with situations is how all trials start and the job of the prosecutor is to create a case and the defendant has to break it down to convince the jury. because you don't believe in examining possibilities whats the point of a jury?
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
And this you base nothing on at all. Where do you get off accusing me of immediately assuming the accuser is guilty? Fucking nonsense. I only ever said that signs of forced entry are proof of non-consensual sex on the victim, but I never claimed that is proof that the accuser is the one who did it. No, what's true is that YOU see a woman with internal vaginal injuries and assume she's had rough sex and is lying. Now that is fucked up.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
You mean the accused. Read it again. "The person who has been accused".
"No, what's true is that YOU see a woman with internal vaginal injuries and assume she's had rough sex and is lying. "
I don't assume because i never use the word proof as you do. The only person who assumes is you it always has been. I explore other possibilites. Nice try. But try harder. And swear more it might make me laugh more.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Congratulations. You just admitted defeat by failing to respond. I'll try, as a courtesy, to dumb this down for you one last time."
So did you um yeah... something like that.
Seriously you cannot prove anything either bruised ego please lol. Next time you use an analogy make sure its actually one that fits well that's always the danger with these things. You think your on to something comparing apples to trees but you usually are not.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"I'm giving you an actual scenario where a man was heard by many witnesses making death threats and was last seen with the victims by the citizens or a police officer."
So the witnesses heard noises and threats? did they see who did it, now we have proof based on witness assumptions? please and now your chucking in a police officer. Look simple question did anyone see the person do it? its not called being a whore for conflict just because you don't like it.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.) "Keep adding more things to it..." Exactly! Just like the adrenaline and rough sex bullshit. I refute every single one of your little arguments and come up with more maybes after another until you cam to a woman mutilating her own vagina to fake a rape. Wow. You're starting to become a fucking hypocrite. Keep ignoring the argument with your little diversions. I see straight through you. You're only indirectly admitting defeat.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
I mean how can you have an actual scenario/case where there are so many added maybes everytime there is a rebuttal? maybe this, maybe that. If your gonna create a hypothetical situation at-least make it robust. Don't just dress it up to try and prove you are right about something, because if that's the case then you are really poor at this.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
"I mean how can you have an actual scenario/case where there are so many added maybes everytime there is a rebuttal?"
Oh, Jesus, thank you! That is exactly what you've been doing this whole fucking time. Your hypothetical situations were so empty and irrational and without explanation. I asked for why a woman would continue sex bleeding and bruised and you say, "Maybe the adrenaline kept her from noticing". Another maybe after another and a lame scenario.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Oh, Jesus, thank you! That is exactly what you've been doing this whole fucking time. Your hypothetical situations were so empty and irrational and without explanation. "
What a load of nonsense what you are doing is adding evidence that doesn't exist to a case. If there are witnesses to prove a murder you have to question them and find out if the story checks out. Its called examine the evidence. I never said anything about proof? you did. Big difference.
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart
"Another maybe after another and a lame scenario."
Again nonsense. Exploring these scenarios is fine the problem with you is that you take these scenarios just like you take the bruising as proof.
I have every right to question them. If you have witnesses they need to be questioned. You don't see defeat in me trust me what i do see in you however is a desperate attempt to redress the same ideas of yours and pretend these are mine. That's not how you defeat someone. LOL
stupidfeminazifoolz 5 months ago
(cont.) For the last damn time, "possibilities" are not reasonable doubt because anything is possible! That is not how the court works, so stop making shit up. If a woman is proven to have been raped, and the accused man's semen is found in her, it's "possible" that he used a turkey baster to insert the semen of another man to frame him! This is the definitive hypocrisy in you I was talking about as this is the just kind of "maybe this, maybe that" thinking you criticized earlier!
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
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jayc342009 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart False rape accusations are not rare, its about 50/50.
jayc342009 6 months ago 13
@jayc342009 False rape is more common than that. Retired cops from several countries say it is about 80% meaning most rapes dont happen.
dafty97 6 months ago 2
@jayc342009 And where do you get that from? You're own personal guesses and make-shit-up-to-prove-an-argument methods? According to the FBI, rape accusations are only 8% of rape cases. Yes, they are rare, so do some research before you waste any more of my time.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart haha, ignored.
jayc342009 6 months ago
@jayc342009 I truly do not know the ratio - I can only guess.
What I do know is that when people use laws as weapons against people, it destroys everything that law stands for.
If you falsely accuse someone of a crime, you should either face the penalty the accused would face or experience whatever crime you accused them of having commited.
In other words, someone who falsely accused someone of rape would have to choose between being raped or facing the same time in jail as a rapist.
Poetic.
CHRLPTRSN 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart Proven false rape accusations are rare 8%, but that is largely because it is only recorded if someone actually stumbles into the deception. Reports of rape are not investigated beyond the guilt or innocence of the accused. If I'm not mistaken, of all rape allegations made, only 16% are convicted. That leaves 76% of cases which could be False reporting, free rapist or mis-identification. That's 33% of known outcomes are that of false accusations, anything else is "assumptions"
MNeilGri 5 months ago
(cont.) Yes, you are mistaken because you fail to comprehend the meaning of statistics. A lack of conviction of the accused does not mean a rape is a false accusation. If that's the way it was, then you'd be implying our courts are infallible and never get it wrong. It means there wasn't enough evidence to convict. A false rape accusation is a rape report that fails to make it to court and is quickly recognized as unfounded.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart Typical. Accuse your opposition of "not understanding". IE, slander first, hope that diminishes credibility. Whatever... What you failed to miss is the basic math. If 16% of cases are proven to be rape, and 8% of cases are proven to be false (not just unfounded, but maliciously false. Unfounded are listed as unfounded), that means 1/3 of all cases who's outcome is known are maliciously false. The fact you would even try to make false rape accusations look like unproven rapes ...
MNeilGri 5 months ago
(cont.) Are you mentally retarded? Or does it just suit your agenda to completely ignore an argument of mine? I told you that a rape case ending in not guilty verdict is *NOT* the same as a false accusation. The statistic of 8% comes from the reports of rape that are ruled unfounded - not without conviction. If you're going to continue this conversation with your fingers in your ears going la-la-la to everything that puts your ass in it's place, then you can just leave.
NoelBlueheart 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart Project much? But you are correct about 1 thing, the FBI doesn't track maliciously false accusations, which in and of itself is a problem, given false reporting is supposed to be a crime, and it certainly victimizes men. So you can claim false rape accusations are rare, but the fact is, our legal system refuses to even track it, so we can't know for sure. It also doesn't count women retracting their accusations as being unfounded or false. Being rare is just an empty assumption.
MNeilGri 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart "And it can't compare with what rape is - sexual pleasure from destroying another human being." Are you not aware of the financial gains that can be made through rape support programs? Are you denying the gratification of revenge that so many female music artists sing about? And please, enough of the melodrama. Epidemic? Destroying another human being? I find it interesting also, that you would deem a man's suffering from false accusations as less important then that of a woman's.
MNeilGri 5 months ago
(cont2) What are you babbling about? Name which support programs profit off of rape victims and prove it. For you to earlier harass me for proof in what I said not directed to you and then state paranoid bullshit without any proof of your own is erroneous and embarrassing. Hold yourself to your own standards, please. You're comparing being falsely accused of rape to actually being raped? Yeah, and I guess you'd rather be murdered than falsely accused of murder. Unbelievable.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart Again, beginning with an insult. There are thousands of sexual assault programs sucking money from the VAWA teet. And that money isn't regulated, that's one of the issues Ted Poe has in congress regarding VAWA reform. And I notice you reworded my statement to say something else. I said there were financial gains to be made through programs, not that programs profit from. It's the people running the programs profiting, programs like unregulated VAWA is what allow it.
MNeilGri 5 months ago
(cont2) Please. Don't play the victims. You may not have used any choice words, but the hostile attitude and overwhelming response of 5 posts you approached me with was an insult. Be civil with me and you won't get insulted based on your own behavior. If there are THOUSANDS of sexual assault programs that benefit from rape victims, surely you'd be able to name ONE? But you didn't. Hence, you are a liar and a coward who can't face up to his own standards for "proof".
NoelBlueheart 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart LOL now playing "you were mean first, be nice and I'll play nice".. FUCK you, hows that for civil. My challenging your opinions should not, in and of itself, be deemed hostile, and the fact I made 5 was simply a matter of catching up. But you clearly don't like your opinions challenged (your responses to the others here shows as much, your immediate hostility to me and choice to INSULT me, and be the first to insult me, confirms such. Fact is, you threw the first insult, first 8+
MNeilGri 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart As for someone that benefits (again, not from the victims themselves, but) from programs designed to help victims, RAINN and it's 1,102 are consistently granted funding from VAWA's Sexual Assault Services Program, and the more they can claim rape happens and that they are needed in order to help those victims come forward, the more money they get. But what I original meant by financial gains was what can be gained in civil suits by "the victim", with Rape prgrams paying legal fees
MNeilGri 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart As to your analogy... 1: Murder ends ones life, they are not able to rebuild themselves after murder. 2: False allegations of murder carry no stigma, allegations of rape follow you for the rest of your life. I would rather be murdered then be falsely accused of rape. Let me ask you, would you rather be abused or falsely accused of infant child abuse? That's closer, given the stigma involved, though you would still have court bias in your favor, looking to blame some man.
MNeilGri 5 months ago
(cont3) Child molestation or sexual assault ends a life. Victim are never same. They develop phobias and have difficulty trusting. To be raped and made to feel like nothing but an object with no rights over your own body is much worse than being falsely accused of something. Funny, even in rape cases which are proven it's the victims that carry the stigma of being a whore or a liar and the rapists live on just fine. No, you got it backwards. Look up the story of the Silsbee Texas cheerleader.
NoelBlueheart 4 months ago
@NoelBlueheart "Child molestation or sexual assault ends a life." So do false allegations. That's what you seem unable to understand. Have you even read an account of a falsely accused? are you so unsympathetic as to not understand the violation a falsely accused goes through? Everything you claim a rape victim feels is suffered too by the falsely accused, along with a permanent sicko stigma, huge legal bills, and virtually no chance of getting justice. Why do you deny male victims exist?
MNeilGri 4 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Rape *IS* difficult to prove. False rape accusations are only 8% of rape cases (according to the FBI, that's where I get that) and yes the common sentence for rape is 5-10 years. I suggest you do some research before you take in on yourself to just disagree with everything I say. I also suggest you stop making up figures and numbers to prove your point - which if you have to make up statistics to do so then it's obvious you are wrong.
NoelBlueheart 6 months ago
@NoelBlueheart many forms of rape are very easy to prove if the victim acts immediately. It is people like you, that keep telling them the cops and laws are biased against them and won't believe them, that turn the victims away from police help. This is done in order to garner support, not for the victims, but for the causes that make money off those victims. And the truth is, if false allegations were punished, the false accusations would drop off the statistics, making these people obsolete.
MNeilGri 5 months ago
(cont3) "People like you" is a ridiculous thing to say to someone based on a single Youtube post, dipshit. I never said the laws or biased and that people won't believe them. Keep your straw-man arguments out of here if you want to converse with me and be taken seriously. And what is the innocent project, pray tell, and what innocent men were released? It may suit your arguments to make shit up but the only one you're impressing is yourself.
NoelBlueheart 5 months ago
@NoelBlueheart You've posted more then one. Furthermore, you proved me right in your (Cont1) response earlier where you say exactly what I accused you of saying, IE, when you said "false allegations are just rape reports that were quickly deemed unfounded". Even acknowledged false allegations are still considered actual rapes that just got covered up too quickly for you. You seem virtually incapable of acknowledging that women LIE, and rape accusations are a huge reve