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Hej, check out the mixtapes from our upcoming Ep, simply type in; Lifer Low in the search bar and your good to go! We are a Down inspired, stoner/southern metal band from Stockholm Sweden. Dont forget to rate, subscribe, comment and like us on facebook! //Lifer
@GroovemindRock Dude are you kidding me? Down is Phil from Pantera, Kirk from Crowbar, Jimmy Bower from EyeHateGod and Pepper Keenan of Corrosion of Conformity...they are like the ultimate metal supergroup! consider yourself inducted, now go buy all 3 albums.
It's definitely not on the Stone The Crow single... I have that and it's just the 'radio edit'... just 1 song... besides, the chick below says when and where it was recorded... =O) You can probably download it from btjunkie or piratebay, somewhere like that...
HOT DAMN, this is almost as good as it gets, people! spread the word of music like this, so people like me dont have to discover it years after it was written. big fan, right here. KIRK, PHIL, REX, PEPPER AND JIMMY FOREVER!
God damn Down fucking rules!! My favorite band ever, I cant wait to see them on the 6th, I live in Colorado, does anybody know if Rex will be on this tour or is he still healing?
@BigRigger78 Don't know exactly, I've found it on the web, but after searching a little bit, it seems that it was the B-side of a Stone The Crow single. But I've also read somewhere that it was recorded during the Down II sessions, so I'm not sure of that.
What the hell is wrong with you people?I was there when Pantera was around. That was my band. I've seen Down as well and all you kids today just wanna hear watered down songs of the best stuff. Do you even listen to the originals? All the emotion that they have? Stop smoking weed. Damn
@sfperkins36 Do you need attention? Shut the fuck up, scumbag. You think you're the only person on the internet who has seen Pantera or Down live? And what the fuck is your point anyway? Everyone on the comments is positive. You pathetic bitch.
@sfperkins36 Do you need attention? Shut the fuck up, scumbag. You think you're the only person on the internet who has seen Pantera or Down live? And what the fuck is your point anyway? Everyone on the comments is positive. You pathetic bitch.
@sfperkins36@sfperkins36 Do you need attention? Shut the fuck up, scumbag. You think you're the only person on the internet who has seen Pantera or Down live? And what the fuck is your point anyway? Everyone on the comments is positive. You pathetic bitch.
@sfperkins36 Do you need attention? Shut the fuck up, scumbag. You think you're the only person on the internet who has seen Pantera or Down live? And what the fuck is your point anyway? Everyone on the comments is positive. You pathetic bitch.
This is the ONLY non-death metal band that i get up for, and go see in concert and support!!!, the truth is, you cannot see true talent and deny it, so every show even remotely close to me, i go to, and love every second of all of them!!!! Dow remains a musical inspiration forever!
@ghvb2 Sorry about that spelling in the last comment, i was drunk, and fuck it, i am now. But still, everything i said was 100% heartfelt, and the band is still amazing none-the-less, time to do another shot of Stempede......
The "electric" version is definitely one of my favorite songs from Down. But this "acoustic" version is just as great. It would be cool if Down did an "unplugged" show. That would be cool.
But MTV arent cool anymore so it wouldnt happen and what other songs apart from this, jail, where im going, pray for the locust and his majesty the desert would be any good unplugged
@moshtastic1993 Yeah, it would be jamming. Other Down songs that could also be perfromed in acoustic versions could be "Learn from this mistake", "Lies, I don't know what they say but...", "Landing on the mountains of Megiddo", and "Nothing in Return(Walk Away)." Yeah, MTV's a complete joke now. They just show bullshit shows on that channel like "Jersey Show", hell even the Headbanger's Ball on MTV sucks nowadays as well.
@JunkKidd7 don't get carried away, this gives you no proof that he could sing modern r&b or opera. All it proves is he can sing good with metal and acoustic blues type things, which if you listen to Down you would know from songs like Where I'm Going.
WHAT A SONG MAN!!!!!!!!!!! Love this versjon as well, sound like a one off. You kan hear that Phil is not singing the original melody, and I guess it was maybe a kinda bootleg!! But brilliant none the less!! Down really rules!!!
I was at a Down concert recently and they played stone the crow last and some dickhead in the audience says'I hate this fucking song!' Im thinking then WTF u doing at a Down concert?He must hate the slower Down songs i guess.Great song BTW
@shootyouintheback If anyone wants this song. Download a Tube Catcher. Its a free program that can download a Youtube video or just the audio. Google a Tube Cather for the link and more info : )
Phil, keep off the drugs, moderate the drinkin and dont come off as a socially ignorant racist prick and well keep loving your god gifted voice and your fucking cool music. Damn cool tune.
This has such a bluesy vibe, I can see why these guys love Nola, must be one very culturally rich place.
Down is one of the many bands to come from this area.
" Throughout the 1990s, many sludge metal bands started in the area. New Orleans' heavy metal bands like Eyehategod, Soilent Green, Crowbar, and Down have incorporated styles such as hardcore punk, doom metal, and southern rock to create an original and heady brew of swampy and aggravated metal that has largely avoided standardization. " Wikipedia
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Liferofficial 3 days ago
Make an unplugged album Down!
adamr1986 6 days ago
can somebody remove that one fucking dislike
stonedeadcro 1 week ago
You can so tell Rex isn't a native of Louisiana. lol.
Actueel68 2 weeks ago
BEST INTRO OF ALL TIME
rgv2006tx 3 weeks ago 2
@rgv2006tx it is absolutely kickass! I remember the 1st time I heard it... It caught me at once!
CowboyFromHell1988 1 day ago
this is some awesome shit. I need this on cd
chrisfuller76 3 weeks ago
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Liferofficial 3 weeks ago
Oddly appealing.
SuperDrake85 3 weeks ago
such a great song to f**k to.
mc55117 1 month ago 2
@mc55117 i seriously have to try that. not no speed shit either haha. that slow grindy shit that you light candles for
machinegunmike95 1 month ago
Deberían hacer un concierto en acustico por que son tremendos
abcdsgn 1 month ago
Best song
TheDkeever 1 month ago
N.O.L.A- N.ew O.rleans L.ouisiA.na....good name for your daughter brother, my girls named Dylan after another musical influence.
junkyardtattoo 2 months ago
They played this live on radio 2002ish during ozzfest and when they did side gigs.
robschwett 2 months ago
phil sounds so good man!........
puswa767 2 months ago
damn thats amazing..
RebelRazor666 3 months ago
Where is this group from? someone recommend more songs please i'm so fucking impressed by this
GroovemindRock 3 months ago
@GroovemindRock Dude are you kidding me? Down is Phil from Pantera, Kirk from Crowbar, Jimmy Bower from EyeHateGod and Pepper Keenan of Corrosion of Conformity...they are like the ultimate metal supergroup! consider yourself inducted, now go buy all 3 albums.
MrGScotty 3 months ago 7
@MrGScotty Fucking epic group man! Been listening to them the last two weeks lol
GroovemindRock 2 months ago
@GroovemindRock got your g
1973ftwgodhatesusall 1 month ago
Drink some beers... smoke some weed... everything will be fine.
salladloot 3 months ago 2
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Fuckin awesome !!
mikereptilian 3 months ago
what kind of retard disliked this song
stonedeadcro 3 months ago 2
@stonedeadcro maybe their fingered slipped? hop it did....
MrDrakeponder 3 months ago
@stonedeadcro some gay bieber! ....... This music is so fucking good!. cheers from argentina my brother!.
Jojoturu 3 months ago
It's definitely not on the Stone The Crow single... I have that and it's just the 'radio edit'... just 1 song... besides, the chick below says when and where it was recorded... =O) You can probably download it from btjunkie or piratebay, somewhere like that...
nickthelick 3 months ago
Anybody know where to download? Please answer me...
AleXdeathX 3 months ago
HOT DAMN, this is almost as good as it gets, people! spread the word of music like this, so people like me dont have to discover it years after it was written. big fan, right here. KIRK, PHIL, REX, PEPPER AND JIMMY FOREVER!
opethinchains 4 months ago 4
WHERE DO CAN I GET THIS VERSION?!
mdisse1 4 months ago
Its like a whole nother song.
metallicaguyanddude 4 months ago
we recorded this at XM in 2002
katiebrutal666 5 months ago
One of the best songs ever, made even greater. Fuck, I love Down
Chi1845 5 months ago
down should do an unplugged so i can kick back and light a big fat one :/
paolobernardini 5 months ago 45
this is great!!! dont hear phil unplugged like this too often
hschick3 5 months ago
saw them in Anaheim, CA yesterday. one of the sickest concerts i've ever been to.
LtRic0 5 months ago
I cant help but to think there should be a SHIT TON of applause at the end of this.....DOWN fuckin rules, and PHIL is the MAN!
TerrahbleTerrah 6 months ago
God damn Down fucking rules!! My favorite band ever, I cant wait to see them on the 6th, I live in Colorado, does anybody know if Rex will be on this tour or is he still healing?
ZARLR 6 months ago
@ZARLR I bet it was an awesome show. Was he there? I'm about to see them this Friday in San Francisco.. I can't wait.
pdeere436 6 months ago
Dude, where did you get this song from originally? Leaked studio track, B-side, unreleased album?
BigRigger78 6 months ago 8
@BigRigger78 Don't know exactly, I've found it on the web, but after searching a little bit, it seems that it was the B-side of a Stone The Crow single. But I've also read somewhere that it was recorded during the Down II sessions, so I'm not sure of that.
shootyouintheback 6 months ago 4
@shootyouintheback its from sirius xm.
skinlikewinter10 5 months ago
@shootyouintheback I want to say this was recorded for xm satellite radio session
sittnonchrome 2 months ago
@BigRigger78
wikipedia./wiki/Stone_the_Crow
mindsovermatter 6 months ago
@BigRigger78 we recorded this at XM in 2002... I was in the studio so - I promise :)
katiebrutal666 5 months ago
fucking amazing
MIhELLbOY 4 months ago
Awww did somebody get mad?aww i'm sorry. where's ur pacifier?whats his name now?
sfperkins36 6 months ago
My daughter is named after this record.
nolasdad 6 months ago 52
@nolasdad whats her name eh?just curious cuz when this came out;well it has been&has always been one of my all time favs evER!
MelissaMichele4free 3 months ago
@nolasdad
You named you daughter The Crow?
cool.
flacksuage 3 months ago
@flacksuage
"nola"
stonedeadcro 3 months ago
@nolasdad You named your daughter "The"? How do you pronounce it? "Thee" or "Thuh"?
salladloot 3 months ago
@salladloot He said he named his daughter after THIS RECORD, that means he named her NOLA !!! Even his username says that:)) " Nolasdad",
Sarmizegetusa106 3 months ago
@nolasdad true father
thrashysludgebastard 3 months ago
@nolasdad fantastic name man ! She is lucky
Krehyv 2 months ago
@nolasdad Her name is stoned? O.o
droid0188 2 months ago
@droid0188 nola
gangoul1 1 month ago
@nolasdad you daughter is named stone the crow acoustic version ?
DeceasedFantasy 1 month ago
@nolasdad What's her name? Crow? Stone? Stone the?
ZeroMalarki 1 week ago
@ZeroMalarki
Nope, Down :D
synder1019 1 week ago
@synder1019 Nola?
Polarbearr1 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ZeroMalarki Propably Nola
acdcman96fin 6 days ago
@nolasdad Now that you say so, Nola does make a great name for a proud rocking father's daughter... :D
CowboyFromHell1988 1 day ago 2
about to see Down live in here Brazil in 3 months. Best band in the last decade and now.
BoyfromSevilla 6 months ago
@BoyfromSevilla
They are real rock musicians, that is why i want to see them, alsp :)
Shame i live in Norway :'(
donSparda 6 months ago
@donSparda Amazing Live... I actually feel quite privileged to have seen them tbh.
benspruce 6 months ago
@benspruce ive seen them everytime they come to philly so far,always great
ghostwhiskey 6 months ago
@sfperkins36 ... dam someone pass tha herbs!!!
stonedwizardx6x 6 months ago
cool version of this song
WATCHDOGG420 6 months ago
NICE
VannMan826 7 months ago
awesome
down for life
metallicpunkster1 7 months ago
What the hell is wrong with you people?I was there when Pantera was around. That was my band. I've seen Down as well and all you kids today just wanna hear watered down songs of the best stuff. Do you even listen to the originals? All the emotion that they have? Stop smoking weed. Damn
sfperkins36 7 months ago
@sfperkins36 Do you need attention? Shut the fuck up, scumbag. You think you're the only person on the internet who has seen Pantera or Down live? And what the fuck is your point anyway? Everyone on the comments is positive. You pathetic bitch.
drinktheliquor 6 months ago
@sfperkins36 Do you need attention? Shut the fuck up, scumbag. You think you're the only person on the internet who has seen Pantera or Down live? And what the fuck is your point anyway? Everyone on the comments is positive. You pathetic bitch.
drinktheliquor 6 months ago
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drinktheliquor 6 months ago
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drinktheliquor 6 months ago
some good shit right here,..fucking cool...
ToNy4MunEy 7 months ago
beautiful
rocknrollhoochiekoo1 8 months ago
Phil Anselmo. I'm in.
LueyLuvaexthe13th 8 months ago
this is a hard thing to say but in my opinion this is better than the plugged version
PRIESTofPANTERA 8 months ago
GOD DAMMIT PHIL! YOUR VOICE IS SO DAMN TASTY BRO! \m/
GotdownwitteSickness 8 months ago
wow!
nice bass line!..
long live d0Wn!
bjthepumpkinguy 8 months ago
Oh my god!
brettsb1985 8 months ago
0 dislakes! I can't see red bar! :) Down Rulez
ristesky 9 months ago
never heard this version before but FUCK is it good
timmma1981 9 months ago
Beautiful!
CoolsLiverpool1992 9 months ago
Just google, youtube audio converter.
YZtwostrokin 9 months ago
Where can you get this song????!!!!
jdown4533 9 months ago
@jdown4533
realplayer will download and convert any youtube song
RebelJeremy78 9 months ago
@jdown4533 aqui.. mismo..
maxsoljuak 8 months ago
can someone PLEASE tell me where I can get this song at Ive looked and looked allover and cant find it anywhere
slayerdearly 10 months ago
great version thanks for posting
somegirl60171 10 months ago
Hope they release a full length Acoustic album :< ... or this as a single with Lifer :d
ghvb2 10 months ago
This is the ONLY non-death metal band that i get up for, and go see in concert and support!!!, the truth is, you cannot see true talent and deny it, so every show even remotely close to me, i go to, and love every second of all of them!!!! Dow remains a musical inspiration forever!
TheRisingDown 11 months ago
@TheRisingDown dude ... it's PHIL FUCKING ANSELMO ... Anything he puts himself into is always going to be fucking awesome ...
ghvb2 10 months ago
@ghvb2 Sorry about that spelling in the last comment, i was drunk, and fuck it, i am now. But still, everything i said was 100% heartfelt, and the band is still amazing none-the-less, time to do another shot of Stempede......
TheRisingDown 10 months ago
@TheRisingDown lol good on ya ... I wasn't trying to be a cunt, just Phil Anselmo... PHIL ANSELMO IS GOD ;x
ghvb2 10 months ago
this song is so grungy i like it so much
yuval7171 11 months ago
this song is so grungy
yuval7171 11 months ago
man no matter how they play it,Down is just fuckin amazing
JunkKidd7 1 year ago
dude rex is gettin old ..
Blackheart1005 1 year ago
I'm probably gonna get hate for this, but in this picture, Phil looks like a hardcore Chad Kroger.
TrendKillStudios 1 year ago
Simply THE BEST!!!
ErikL78 1 year ago
Thanks so much for shareing this.... i love it! Phil is awesome!
metalmadult 1 year ago
thanks guys
11TVO 1 year ago
love it!
emittscool 1 year ago
phil aint racist so fuck off pricks
mossberg451 1 year ago
Hell Right!!!
whitedeviltx 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure this came from WAAF 107.3 Boston I heard them do it live in the radio studio a day before the Down show
bdoginit01 1 year ago
The "electric" version is definitely one of my favorite songs from Down. But this "acoustic" version is just as great. It would be cool if Down did an "unplugged" show. That would be cool.
TheCfh4life 1 year ago 2
@TheCfh4life I hear that.
That shit would be jamming!
But MTV arent cool anymore so it wouldnt happen and what other songs apart from this, jail, where im going, pray for the locust and his majesty the desert would be any good unplugged
moshtastic1993 10 months ago
@moshtastic1993 Yeah, it would be jamming. Other Down songs that could also be perfromed in acoustic versions could be "Learn from this mistake", "Lies, I don't know what they say but...", "Landing on the mountains of Megiddo", and "Nothing in Return(Walk Away)." Yeah, MTV's a complete joke now. They just show bullshit shows on that channel like "Jersey Show", hell even the Headbanger's Ball on MTV sucks nowadays as well.
TheCfh4life 10 months ago
Anselmo proves once again that he is a top singer,not just in metal.This proves he can sing ANYthing
JunkKidd7 1 year ago
@JunkKidd7 don't get carried away, this gives you no proof that he could sing modern r&b or opera. All it proves is he can sing good with metal and acoustic blues type things, which if you listen to Down you would know from songs like Where I'm Going.
parallelogramammoth 1 year ago
This version gets two HUGE thumbs up!!! Is there anyway I can buy a copy off you?!
bitterbastard80 1 year ago
awesome song!!!
would like to have it;)
MrRomgar 1 year ago
WHAT A SONG MAN!!!!!!!!!!! Love this versjon as well, sound like a one off. You kan hear that Phil is not singing the original melody, and I guess it was maybe a kinda bootleg!! But brilliant none the less!! Down really rules!!!
grabael 1 year ago
sounds like the boys to me, sweet!
dsmalf 1 year ago
Great
vinylray 1 year ago
I was at a Down concert recently and they played stone the crow last and some dickhead in the audience says'I hate this fucking song!' Im thinking then WTF u doing at a Down concert?He must hate the slower Down songs i guess.Great song BTW
ed1978atx 1 year ago 2
thanks for that song
cazification 1 year ago
@shootyouintheback If anyone wants this song. Download a Tube Catcher. Its a free program that can download a Youtube video or just the audio. Google a Tube Cather for the link and more info : )
PapeteriesBraunstein 1 year ago
When was this recorded? And do they have any other acoustic versions of there songs?
ApocryphaGuitarist99 1 year ago
Thank you so much. Where did you get this? Is there more?? Thanks again.
1beerguzzler1 1 year ago
@1beerguzzler1 its on their official facebook page
thememoryremains100 1 year ago
to me,
they are the modern day black sabbath
ilike2eathoneybuns 1 year ago 15
@ilike2eathoneybuns I'll drink to that dude. Gotta love the vocal harmonies at chorus
1beerguzzler1 1 year ago
@ilike2eathoneybuns Fuk yeah dude !
Krehyv 4 months ago
This is quite spectacularly awesome.
detonator82 1 year ago
yes this action is good :) tell me please where can I find this song?
slayerdearly 1 year ago
this song is sooooo sexy. <3 it
stfunowplease 1 year ago
2 member of pantera
elevatortv 1 year ago
@elevatortv It's actually 100 billion trillion members of Pop Tart Mania
tyrannicalreign 1 year ago
Long live Phil Anselmo....!!!!!!!!!!!
ultraprofanatica13 1 year ago
I NEVER DIED BEFORE! Love some DOWN anytime. Phil and his many voice talents is why I love music. HAIL DOWN!!!
SouthernTrendkillCFH 1 year ago
cool thanks i'm stoked that they are still together pepper keenan is still there to from COC :D
Harmzoul 1 year ago
is that phil anselmo?? cause in the pic that doesn't look like him but it sounds like him
Harmzoul 1 year ago
@Harmzoul Yes, it's him singing and it's him in the pic, in the middle
shootyouintheback 1 year ago 18
@Harmzoul
Man, just watch his tattoos... who else should that be?? :P There's only one! One PHIL!!
SouthernMan101 1 year ago
@Harmzoul yup that's him
Damzelbum 9 months ago
@Harmzoul Yeah it's him just grown his hair is all :)
Deadvision666 7 months ago
@Harmzoul You can tell that's Phil, the smoke in front of his face is the only reason you might think differently.
lotuscorpse 5 months ago
@Harmzoul Phillip Anselmo is a man of many hair do's lol but he pulls all of them off very well!!!! METAL METAL METAL!!!!!!!!!
Metalmikebach 5 months ago
@Harmzoul yea its him , look at his tats.
retandom 4 months ago
A good tune to ease a hangover!
Emerdank 1 year ago 2
J'peux l'écouter des centaines de fois je ne m'en lasserai jamais!
jbaha9 1 year ago
fuck yeah!!
mafito22000 1 year ago
This is incredible, anyone know where it was performed?
prenden2 2 years ago
'no matter how i try no matter what i say im blamed im shamed im JUDGED UNFAIRLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!',so true,i think im in love
ghostwhiskey 2 years ago 2
I can't find the chords, does anybody know them?
nwjones1 2 years ago
yeah i do hit me up onYT and ill tell u its alot less dificult than it sounds
ea
ghostwhiskey 2 years ago
@nwjones1 pffft just play the electric version at this tempo and on an acoustic
poopmuncherz 1 year ago
@poopmuncherz Thanks. I actually got to talk to Pepper Keenan about it at his bar a few months ago. C#m
nwjones1 1 year ago
i dig the acoustic stuff!
acerb45666555 2 years ago
agreed
savedone777 2 years ago 2
Amazing, easily rivals the plugged version.
Kylev2 2 years ago 19
this version is mint.... it was recorded during down 2,you can hear opal singing.cant wait till they get round to an accoustic album.down for life.
Arkle666 2 years ago 4
is this down playing this or just a cover?
sounds amazing.
TheMJQ 2 years ago 4
@TheMJQ yes, it's down ;)
shootyouintheback 2 years ago 5
@TheMJQ
It is on the myspace of Down, and they hint at it on the site.
Make sure to frequently check the site and myspace or you'll miss out on great stuff like this
Burgah123 1 year ago
Definetly one of the best bands out there today. This song never gets old.
jstipek62 2 years ago 36
today? they had a great album in 1995. where the fuck have you been?
asinine81 11 months ago
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ghvb2 10 months ago
Anybody know if I can download this anywhere or findit on an album?
thereaperVIII 2 years ago
just get soulseek and dl it from there
ormsalvan 2 years ago
wicked cool gotta love phil
651desmond21 2 years ago 7
one of the best band's in the world ...
metalrulesforlife 2 years ago 6
Phil, keep off the drugs, moderate the drinkin and dont come off as a socially ignorant racist prick and well keep loving your god gifted voice and your fucking cool music. Damn cool tune.
This has such a bluesy vibe, I can see why these guys love Nola, must be one very culturally rich place.
Grimeyhoob 2 years ago 2
please, can you tell me what is or where is Nola? is that some city? :) I live in Europe and don't know :)
SuicietyBoozer 2 years ago 2
Nola is a nickname of New Orleans, Louisiana.
Down is one of the many bands to come from this area.
" Throughout the 1990s, many sludge metal bands started in the area. New Orleans' heavy metal bands like Eyehategod, Soilent Green, Crowbar, and Down have incorporated styles such as hardcore punk, doom metal, and southern rock to create an original and heady brew of swampy and aggravated metal that has largely avoided standardization. " Wikipedia
shootyouintheback 2 years ago
Thank you gor the answer bro ;)
SuicietyBoozer 2 years ago
@SuicietyBoozer nola stands for new orleans luisianna usa
zeroxangelxofxdeath 1 year ago
That is the sweetest tune in the world. xD
GovernmentPeepingSpy 2 years ago 3