Pakistan = Corrupt Civilian Governments Power Hungry Military Rulers Zionist Corrupt Media Very Corrupt and Unjust Judiciary
and worst of all... the most pathetic and useless AWAAM who let all the above fuck Pakistan for so long. shame on all you Pakistanis. YOU ARE TO BLAME.
@azeemos : Listen to the song jackass and leave your anti Pakistan rhetoric out of here. If you don't have any comment related to the song then shut your trap. This is not a political forum you blind ass mofo.
@asimjazz yeah listen to the song, keep listening to the songs.. while the elite fuck you in the ass u just keep listening to the song. its time to wake up fuck head, get your head outta ur ass. ur what they call a sleeper. dont wanna bother with whats wrong, just wanna enjoy the fake pleasures ur getting. what i said was so fucking true that no one who truly feels for Pakistan should have any objection on it. ur the blind ass mofo, for not seeing shit around u.
And don't forget about Veitnam, the US also used Agent orange on veitnam. killing and torturing little babies, raping woman and children. They even have it in documentaries and movies.
the US were the ones that hit first, the golf war, crippled iraq, using Depleted Uranium killing 10,000's of civilians, woman and children. civilians starving to death because of Nato airstrikes in afghanistan, killing 10,000s again, and your going to complain about 9,11? wow. This is like going to someones home killing there families then claim ignorants.
Do not critisize the muslims that are againts the killings of innocent woman and children, whole families get killed every now and then by nato airstrikes, foreign, and your going to complain about terroism?, look at the real terrorist, its quite obvious, most know not the obvious, I have to say its true, because thats just to obvious.
Please appreciate the talents that these boys bring to you, for your pleasure, for your enjoyment, and be thankful that we people have them in our country[Pakistan]. Stop discussing religion here, this is not the place. Your kind of people hinder the progress.
I do not know, why you guys put religion into this... Everyone have their own beliefs and we all are individually responsible for our acts. So, for what we are fighting? Islam is not difficult, no offense, but Scholars made it complicated.
Hazrat Daood had a beautiful voice but he used to praise Allah, He was not singing !! .. nd all these creatures of Allah they do Hamd-o-Sana. there is a "difference" between singing and praising Allah Almighty. and "lilboybru" bhai where did u get ure facts from ?? nd i'm talking about the "indicators"!! .. nd u need to get ure facts staright as well mear bhai .. i am not here to fight m here to discuss i hope v will do tht ..
@malkatlal at least we'r discussion an actual issue rather than talking about stupid indian movies. talking about this is much better than wasting our time and effort and intellect on what shoaib malik and sania mirza are upto. encourage these discussions wherever u see them.
Saudi Arabia has the worst human rights indicators. Iran has the worst civil liberties indicatiors, Pakistan has the highest maternal mortality. Women have the lowest life expectancy in muslim theocratic states. On the other hand, religion-less european states have the highest social welfare indicators. In a religious state, only those who follow the state's ordained religion have rights.
Try and do some research beyond what your "Islamiat-ki-miss" and "Qari sahb" has brainwashed you with!
And the civilization that the Prophet of islam established died the day he died... Abu bakr started killing and waging war the very next day. Nothing and No one can justify the taking of Human life. Allah will judge you for your choices..Then who is man to decide for Allah who shall live and who shall not!
@sumairDJ You know the meaning of civilization...Go and stop your fuckin sharia law,go and stop your militant islams,,go and stop your fucki terrorist,,go and stop ur fuckin government who do nothing but govern people,go and stop your fuckin tribes who say that "Behead those who say that islam is violent"...Until or unless every religion is wiped off from this earth,from human mind...there will always be destructivity on this planet......Your prophet was a child rapist...
all the shit which you said showed clearly ur real face, showed how cheap mentality u got, its not difficult for me to reply in the same tone and say similar things about ur bhagwan and dewtaas but being muslim i cant lower myself to a level as that of animals... m sorry for ur poor mentality, if u would have had some good brought up u might be a better person....but what else can be accepted from a person like you who doesn't even know the name of his father,useless to argue.
@drbilal1981 Well..all those bhagwans are also a shitheads...and the thing about you are much lower than animals...as,,it is always depicted by the status of women in islam..and this is not a argument you fool....
@shauryaification hey asshole get the fuck out of here you filthy son of a bitch... dont ever fucking disrespect any religion or any faith you are no fucking better than anyone asshole fucking bastard...
@shauryaification go fuck yourself you "atheist fundamentalist"! There is little difference between you and all the religious fanatics you condemn. I'm a practical, rational Sufi Muslim and I criticize elements of official Islam that are wrong and oppressive even if they're directly derived from the Qur'an but I have no tolerance for fuckers who bring out such disgusting slander about people, especially respected figures eg. saying child rapist when you don't give any evidence!
I've seen the "child rapist" accusation so many times before, there is no concrete evidence to suggest it; he got engaged to Aisha around 8 or so and married when 12, consummated at 13 or 14 according to the reports; it was an age customary in his society and is the context within which he need to live, so it's no rape case, it was the customs for marriage at the time. so you atheist hypocrites shud just shut your trap. I respect atheists who actually talk rationally and respect others not liars
@BhattisexyJanan: I absolutely second that. There's a strong case that this issue along with many other was tampered with to defame Islam & was manipulated. This slander was invented to attack the zaat-e-aqdas of Nabi Akram (S.A.W.) Hisham bin Urwah is the narrator for this Hadith and no other Sahabi (R.A.) had quoted it ever other than him. Hisham was also known for his poor memory. It is said that instead of 9 Hz. Aisha's (R.A.) age was between 16-18 at the time of mariage with Nabi (S.A.W.) -
@sumairDJ Talking about religion at any place won't help, People are here to enjoy music ... so let them enjoy it ! As we are making a habit of bringing religion everywhere ( it's quite prominent on youtube specially )
@sumairDJ civilized doesn't neccessarily mean "better" or more righteous. While I'm a Sufi Muslim I acknowledge the importance of living in harmony with nature and with all the beings in our world and universe. If we understand the universal principles of Islam it does not instruct people to "be civilized"; while there are great, beautiful things in civilization eg. modern facilities, entertainment, "primitive" tribal and hunter gatherer societies lived and some today still live in more harmony.
@adnan86pk sorry, but who the hell are you to make that judgement when you don't even know me!? I know about the essential universal values of Sufism as expressed in the writings of Baba Bulleh Shah, Rumi, Amir Khusro etc. and they are simple and common sense; compassion, open mindedness, seeking of the absolute truth and intimate knowlege, experience and communion with Allah. So I dunno what drives you to make such a nasty comment against me when i didn't attack anyone!?
no judgement...jus an observation.no offense.but u perhaps don know a Sufi needs to comply 100% with Sharia duties with ABSOLUTELY NO DESIRE of this material world and what it offers.all the things u mentioned above come after when a Sufi is Sharia compliant and free from worldly desires...n the above characteristics are the blessings bestowed for the effort to obey Allah in both body and soul. sufi's donot care abt what modern world offers or what it doesnt.thats my point.
Everyone shut the fuck up..you guys are going around in circles.
This kind of shit is living proof that 'Religion is the cause of all evil'. If any of you had the decency to keep quiet, you may have justified this 'inner peace' stuff.
And whats with the western/islamic crap going on, Islam gave the west many innovations, and the west likewise, we're all human at the end of the day, it isnt an islamic or western acheivement but one of humanity.
second thing, Music did not create any impact on any nonmuslim through which he or she became mulsim.
on the other hand, Non-Muslim have accepted the islam because Bible and other relgious book are not covering the entire aspect of human live as compared to islam and teaching of PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM)...
Listen all the Muslims,whether u living in Melbourne or Sydney or any part of this world,my message is specially for Ali saleh who doesn't know anything about Islam.What ever he said,its all bullshit.Alisalah go and read first and understand what is true Islam ok...and if u don't know anything about Islam,just keep your month shut alright.
it is not raw information that daff is allowed in Islam.... I thought all scholars agreed that when our great prophet arrived to Madinah, little girls were playing the daff. it is more like a fact.
whats wrong with listening to music if:
1) i am letting it control my brain but not in such a way that makes me do bad things
2) if i am listening to music but not forgetting god.
3) not all imaginations from music have to be bad, its up to the person's self control.
please check out this video... not all music makes you forget god.
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WE WILL NOT GO DOWN IN GAZA TONIGHT
for a while I really got into your arguement but no mannn, music is not imcompatible with Islam. You could be a good muslim, good human, and still listen to music.
May Allah guide me and you towards whats right....
no no music is not my profession... its just that i love singing and raag n its been a big part of my life. not a day goes by without hearing atleast one song. i would never take the risk to earn money from music because it is not clear to me whether music is okay in Islam or not. better not transgress to far if it is a transgression, im playing it safe.
i really see your example of keeping guns pretty well... there are some uniform rules of what is good and they are only given by god.
but lets see, not drinking alcohol, eating halal, abstaining from illegal sex, avoiding shirk, all these things are clearly mentioned in quran.
thats why we totally take gods word.
but music, im not that clear about that. maybe some research might help me. i should ask some imams. but problem is they will all give me a different response maybe.
i will go into the tafseer of that surah luqman verse now... thanks for that
Bro u seem to be a Muslim in search of truth. I really appreciate that u r not following your Nafs blindly. I'm not a scholar but what I've understood from whatever knowledge Allah has granted me, is that Allah has declared only those things Haram whose negative impacts are much more than positive effects, plus Allah knows that allowing it in a limited amount will not work because these things are so tempting that it's very hard for humans in general to stay within the limits imposed be Allah.
A very important and clear example is alcohol. It has certain health benefits if taken in very small amount. But how many people have u seen drinking alcohol in very small amount? May be less than 1%. Same is with music. I know its very tempting and gives u a sort of temporary relief while u r listening to it, but do keep in mind that it's the strongest weapon of shaytan.
non-islamic people have been singing and practicing music for years. yet, they live lives just like any other muslim. absolutely no difference in the quality of life. If anything, europeans are way better off than muslims in their quality of life. inspite of alcohol and music. which proves that teachings of quran are nothing but fairy tales.
if you could only feel the inner peace of mind a practicing Muslim has, you would not be saying that. Europeans and Americans are the largest consumers of Anti-depressant pills in the world
you are just having to say that moslems have some sort of "inner peace". nothing like that exists in reality. can you really tell with conviction, that moslems are have more "inner peace" than non-moslems? just look around you and you will find that muslims are butchering as well as being butchered all over the world.
The living example of that "inner peace" is myself. I am one of those people who started practicing Islam and have found myself way better than being around half naked people in the west. As a matter of fact, I pray everyday that I can save enough money so I can go back to my country and be with religious people again, disregarding the offensive tone you have.
The west is not just about half naked people. It's also about great ideas.Think about the products you use on a daily basis.Everything is a product of the western mind.without which, you would have still been riding on mules and reading quran under a lamp.
All I want to say is that non-muslims(unbeleivers or infidels)are not as bad as your Quran(with all due respect) teaches you. only when muslims accept this as a fact, can you live in peace with people of different ideas and religions.
The products I am using today are mere facilities. Islam never keeps us from development. Maybe you need to study more about the Islamic civilization during the western dark-ages.
If Qur'an only teaches to hate and kill nonbelievers, it wouldn't happen that the largest number of converts in the world are in west, most of them women. This explains the propaganda versus the truth.
It's good if you are leading a more peaceful life after reading Quran. but That's all a religion is supposed to do. give you mental strength and happiness and inner joy.but anything more than that is not the purpose of religion.But I have a problem if religion starts dividing people,has a political ideology or speaks violently against those who do not choose to believe it. there are a lot of verses in Quran which invoke unnecessary hatred against unbelievers.
Religion is a code of life. I cannot say about other ones but Islam itself is. It teaches you who to love and who to hate. Islam never teaches me to hate anyone, yes, hating the wrong itself. We're taught not to hate the patient, but to hate the disease he has.
Once a person reads the Qur'an with complete context and a clear mind, disregarding all the negative and biased propaganda, he view never remains the same as what's being spoon-fed by the media
Try googling 'Reverse Messaging' and u'll find too much about that on internet or even on youtube. Now a common person cannot distinguish at all whether a piece of music does or does not contain this sort of shatanic stuff. So with the help of music shaytan can literally spread his message to everyone. That could be one reason why Islam does not encourage listening to music.
just when i spent last night singing on my karaoke you had to say that. haha
Ohhh Lordd, im a dead man.
but i dont get it naaaa,
its not making any sense to me,
shaytan can spread his message to everyone but i can fight with shaitaan even when i listen to music cuz i would still pray do the basics alhumdullilah and do no other major bad things.
only weakhearted muslims can avoid listening to music i guess since it would control them, wat u think?
This statement must be true for ur own self but not for a real practicing Muslim. BTW what made u think that non-Muslims r intellectually higher? Do u live in a western country?I dont think so. if u do, then you don't know the real meaning of intellect :). Otherwise u would never have said that. Do keep in mind that a Mo'min is placed at the highest level of intellect bcz he/she sees the world with the eyes of soul. But unfortunately ur poor intellect can't conceive this fact. its 2 high for u.
AusPakWoman: Do you know the defination of superstitious? Is it allowed in your religion?
Evening and morning sun makes a lot of shadows, some are good some are bad. In your diction, satanic!!! So should we close our eyes?
If satan wants his messege to proliferate, he'd use the language people understand, right? Misinterpretation is equals to superstitions. Try listening Qur'an in reverse then let me know your opinion.
hes sold out to the tableeghi kingpin tariq jameel who has funded money so he could invest in kurta business, in exchange for his celebrity image to promote tableegh
common dude, do you have any proof or are you just speculating? I'm not a tableeghi nor do I give a crap about them but what you are saying unless its substantiated borders on defamation.
Bhaijaan, proof is pretty evident, and I know him personally. He means nothing to me, nor do I mean anything to him. In the end, everyone does what he/she has to do for money. He sells silk in his kurta shops too, yet that is haraam. JJ, just like anyone turned religions after his musical career dwindled, and is doing good financially, thanks to Tariq Jameel.
OK So he sells silk in his shop (I have no clue that how true is it) but if he does ignore it but atleast he is stopped from playing satanic instruments, and for that I respect him, and brother in what sense his career was shaking in music industry, he was on his peak when he left.
music is totally haram? what if i listen to music and lyrics that dont inspire me to do bad things. if i am sure i will not do anything bad, then can i listen to music?
because music is a huge part of my life and thats sad i know. this song ROCKS
why the hell are you listnin to any of this music?? you shudnt be online idiot!!!! internet is HARAM YOU KNOW for you guyz!! go get a AK-47 to destroy my pakistan....u make me SICK
Kiss my ass motherfucker..... dont tell me what to do..... plus if he was so bad before than WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LISTENING TO HIS SHIT? HUH? GET A LIFE!
first of all, its not 'his' shit, if you are referring to the composition, and what does that have to do with JJ's kurta business or tableeghi kingpin relationships/contacts?. Secondly, what did I ask you to do? Do you understand English? Lastly, you are giving Islam quite a good name by using that language mashallah.
The post you are responding to was for hafizhamza23 not for you, so I know you didn't ask me to do anything.
The "SHIT" I was referring to is the song. If Mr. Hamza think this stuff is "BAD" then why the hell is he listening to it in the first place?
About your second comment, the language I use have no bearing on the reputation of Islam. Its just one individual spewing crap. You know what gives Islam a bad name? The hypocrites, the lairs, and the ass hole who blow up civilians in Gods name.
Indeed, NFAK left us way to early, the man was just getting to his peak. May God grant him Jannah and I hope he is always remembered for being our musical icon from Pakistan.
Plus as I recall didn't Prophet PBUH say that we have no RIGHT to say if another person is a good Muslim or bad? At the end of the day JJ's business is his business, I dont see how it effects you or me short of missing out on decent music. If you don't like T Jamat you dont have to deal with them. I still dont see how how JJ sold out to TJ. He went the path he thought was right and more power to him for that.
Lastly I WILL talk how ever I feel like, NO ONE has the right to tell me otherwise
My friend, I didnt comment on whether JJ was a good or a bad Muslim. I was just giving a little more insight into the story as I was sort of involved with him back then, as a fan. I also do not think its wrong for him to have a little bit of financial adventurism in the tableeghi quest, as money in this time is the driving factor for most people, nothing wrong with that. He has 3 kids to feed too. I admire JJ as a brother, very nice guy to be acquinted to.
Salman wrote and composed this song for JJ for his hit album Us Rah Par, and did the guitars! This would have been how Junoon sounded like with JJ on lead vocals...
amazing guitaring n amazing voice
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SAHIL333able 11 months ago
great song, great music !
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Eternity735 1 year ago
1:59-2:17 ... Epic !!!!
riddler820 1 year ago
fantastic !!
sufined 1 year ago
JJ Rocks. Best singer Pakistan could ever have. but Alaas! now he turn into a MULLAH.
zeshify 1 year ago
Wallah ... this song is making me cry... reminds me of those days when I was a care free child. Love it thanx for posting <3<3
adilah2008nov 1 year ago
Pakistan = Corrupt Civilian Governments Power Hungry Military Rulers Zionist Corrupt Media Very Corrupt and Unjust Judiciary
and worst of all... the most pathetic and useless AWAAM who let all the above fuck Pakistan for so long. shame on all you Pakistanis. YOU ARE TO BLAME.
azeemos 1 year ago
@azeemos : Listen to the song jackass and leave your anti Pakistan rhetoric out of here. If you don't have any comment related to the song then shut your trap. This is not a political forum you blind ass mofo.
asimjazz 1 year ago
@asimjazz yeah listen to the song, keep listening to the songs.. while the elite fuck you in the ass u just keep listening to the song. its time to wake up fuck head, get your head outta ur ass. ur what they call a sleeper. dont wanna bother with whats wrong, just wanna enjoy the fake pleasures ur getting. what i said was so fucking true that no one who truly feels for Pakistan should have any objection on it. ur the blind ass mofo, for not seeing shit around u.
azeemos 1 year ago
please please no issues here.... just enjoy the song and comment if u like it, its such an awesome song guys..... he was and is a legend.
Junaid Jamshed what a name..............
cocochum 1 year ago
@cocochum yes, the song is great.... but if you dont like the ISSUES then resolve them otherwise they will show up everywhere u go.
azeemos 1 year ago
And don't forget about Veitnam, the US also used Agent orange on veitnam. killing and torturing little babies, raping woman and children. They even have it in documentaries and movies.
HansWilhelm1995 1 year ago
the US were the ones that hit first, the golf war, crippled iraq, using Depleted Uranium killing 10,000's of civilians, woman and children. civilians starving to death because of Nato airstrikes in afghanistan, killing 10,000s again, and your going to complain about 9,11? wow. This is like going to someones home killing there families then claim ignorants.
HansWilhelm1995 1 year ago
Do not critisize the muslims that are againts the killings of innocent woman and children, whole families get killed every now and then by nato airstrikes, foreign, and your going to complain about terroism?, look at the real terrorist, its quite obvious, most know not the obvious, I have to say its true, because thats just to obvious.
HansWilhelm1995 1 year ago
LOVE THIS SONG AMAZING ......
TheMubashir123 1 year ago
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet soooooooooong molvi i love yoy
flik191 1 year ago
salman is the top guitarist of Pakistan.
adeeleo 1 year ago 2
and unfortunately he lost the top singer of Pakistan !!
Fuuast2009 1 year ago
dis song iz.................omg
sundusmansoor 2 years ago
Please appreciate the talents that these boys bring to you, for your pleasure, for your enjoyment, and be thankful that we people have them in our country[Pakistan]. Stop discussing religion here, this is not the place. Your kind of people hinder the progress.
naz3591 2 years ago
awsomeeeeeee
sabahcutykhan 2 years ago 9
jaagi re
AhadVedux84 2 years ago
I do not know, why you guys put religion into this... Everyone have their own beliefs and we all are individually responsible for our acts. So, for what we are fighting? Islam is not difficult, no offense, but Scholars made it complicated.
eazysunny 2 years ago
all of inspiration comes from this legendary Guitar GOD - Salman Ahmad, God has gifted him with melodies composition and soulful guitar feel
he is plays from heart and touches heart
he is the one to follow a true role model for aspiring guitarists
sufined 2 years ago
Hazrat Daood had a beautiful voice but he used to praise Allah, He was not singing !! .. nd all these creatures of Allah they do Hamd-o-Sana. there is a "difference" between singing and praising Allah Almighty. and "lilboybru" bhai where did u get ure facts from ?? nd i'm talking about the "indicators"!! .. nd u need to get ure facts staright as well mear bhai .. i am not here to fight m here to discuss i hope v will do tht ..
affan498 2 years ago
Affan...i dont think its best plat form to discuss relegion...other than that no offence mean to you..
this gives people opportunity to laught at us..deen ki baat hikmat say ki jai tu behtar hoti hay...no offence meant for any one
malkatlal 2 years ago
bro i totally agree with you, I only replied because of this other guy who was portraying a wrong image, that was my sole reason.
affan498 2 years ago
@malkatlal at least we'r discussion an actual issue rather than talking about stupid indian movies. talking about this is much better than wasting our time and effort and intellect on what shoaib malik and sania mirza are upto. encourage these discussions wherever u see them.
azeemos 1 year ago
cant we just enjoy da song.....do we really have to bring religion into this???
liberals, non religious, religious ppl we are all da same....intolerant of each others belief....
omairm2 2 years ago
JJ ki Jay Jay
Love you JJ
pk13285 2 years ago
jay jay ??
or do u mean jai jai ?? lol
pls dont mix indian culture with ours :)
Ghostt5786 2 years ago
Sorry
pk13285 2 years ago
i think he meaned, JJ or Junaid Jamshed
honeys44 2 years ago
finally , been trying to see what he looked back in the days , but yeah , nice song :P
s0urpunk 2 years ago
Saudi Arabia has the worst human rights indicators. Iran has the worst civil liberties indicatiors, Pakistan has the highest maternal mortality. Women have the lowest life expectancy in muslim theocratic states. On the other hand, religion-less european states have the highest social welfare indicators. In a religious state, only those who follow the state's ordained religion have rights.
Try and do some research beyond what your "Islamiat-ki-miss" and "Qari sahb" has brainwashed you with!
lilboybru 2 years ago 2
zeshee dude... go fuck yor self ma darl...
mstrslim 2 years ago
What a duo two of the Asia's greatest musicians. How could any one not like this. I pitty them
junaid3455444715 2 years ago
aabhe mian wf u guys dont have any thing else to talk about zeshan mian smoke smoke some shit up so it can calm u down...
samarkahn 2 years ago
Zishan you need to shut your own hole first
farhan2236 2 years ago
without religion,any society will become uncivilized.
Islam has shown in the past the mairage of civilization in the presence of our beloved Prophet (P.B.U.H)......
sumairDJ 2 years ago 24
And the civilization that the Prophet of islam established died the day he died... Abu bakr started killing and waging war the very next day. Nothing and No one can justify the taking of Human life. Allah will judge you for your choices..Then who is man to decide for Allah who shall live and who shall not!
Cheers!
lilboybru 2 years ago
@sumairDJ You know the meaning of civilization...Go and stop your fuckin sharia law,go and stop your militant islams,,go and stop your fucki terrorist,,go and stop ur fuckin government who do nothing but govern people,go and stop your fuckin tribes who say that "Behead those who say that islam is violent"...Until or unless every religion is wiped off from this earth,from human mind...there will always be destructivity on this planet......Your prophet was a child rapist...
shauryaification 1 year ago
@shauryaification
all the shit which you said showed clearly ur real face, showed how cheap mentality u got, its not difficult for me to reply in the same tone and say similar things about ur bhagwan and dewtaas but being muslim i cant lower myself to a level as that of animals... m sorry for ur poor mentality, if u would have had some good brought up u might be a better person....but what else can be accepted from a person like you who doesn't even know the name of his father,useless to argue.
drbilal1981 1 year ago
@drbilal1981 Well..all those bhagwans are also a shitheads...and the thing about you are much lower than animals...as,,it is always depicted by the status of women in islam..and this is not a argument you fool....
shauryaification 1 year ago
@shauryaification hey asshole get the fuck out of here you filthy son of a bitch... dont ever fucking disrespect any religion or any faith you are no fucking better than anyone asshole fucking bastard...
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@hereforu124 your religion taught you this...poor child...
shauryaification 1 year ago
@shauryaification go fuck yourself you "atheist fundamentalist"! There is little difference between you and all the religious fanatics you condemn. I'm a practical, rational Sufi Muslim and I criticize elements of official Islam that are wrong and oppressive even if they're directly derived from the Qur'an but I have no tolerance for fuckers who bring out such disgusting slander about people, especially respected figures eg. saying child rapist when you don't give any evidence!
BhattisexyJanan 9 months ago
I've seen the "child rapist" accusation so many times before, there is no concrete evidence to suggest it; he got engaged to Aisha around 8 or so and married when 12, consummated at 13 or 14 according to the reports; it was an age customary in his society and is the context within which he need to live, so it's no rape case, it was the customs for marriage at the time. so you atheist hypocrites shud just shut your trap. I respect atheists who actually talk rationally and respect others not liars
BhattisexyJanan 9 months ago
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facelessdesire 9 months ago
@BhattisexyJanan: I absolutely second that. There's a strong case that this issue along with many other was tampered with to defame Islam & was manipulated. This slander was invented to attack the zaat-e-aqdas of Nabi Akram (S.A.W.) Hisham bin Urwah is the narrator for this Hadith and no other Sahabi (R.A.) had quoted it ever other than him. Hisham was also known for his poor memory. It is said that instead of 9 Hz. Aisha's (R.A.) age was between 16-18 at the time of mariage with Nabi (S.A.W.) -
facelessdesire 9 months ago
@sumairDJ Talking about religion at any place won't help, People are here to enjoy music ... so let them enjoy it ! As we are making a habit of bringing religion everywhere ( it's quite prominent on youtube specially )
riddler820 1 year ago
@riddler820 well...what matters is peace and freedom and justice ON THIS EARTH.....I love music of junaid jamshed...
shauryaification 1 year ago
@shauryaification I agree !
riddler820 1 year ago
@sumairDJ civilized doesn't neccessarily mean "better" or more righteous. While I'm a Sufi Muslim I acknowledge the importance of living in harmony with nature and with all the beings in our world and universe. If we understand the universal principles of Islam it does not instruct people to "be civilized"; while there are great, beautiful things in civilization eg. modern facilities, entertainment, "primitive" tribal and hunter gatherer societies lived and some today still live in more harmony.
BhattisexyJanan 9 months ago
@BhattisexyJanan
u don know a damn abt bein a sufi
adnan86pk 8 months ago
@adnan86pk sorry, but who the hell are you to make that judgement when you don't even know me!? I know about the essential universal values of Sufism as expressed in the writings of Baba Bulleh Shah, Rumi, Amir Khusro etc. and they are simple and common sense; compassion, open mindedness, seeking of the absolute truth and intimate knowlege, experience and communion with Allah. So I dunno what drives you to make such a nasty comment against me when i didn't attack anyone!?
BhattisexyJanan 8 months ago
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no judgement...jus an observation.no offense.but u perhaps don know a Sufi needs to comply 100% with Sharia duties with ABSOLUTELY NO DESIRE of this material world and what it offers.all the things u mentioned above come after when a Sufi is Sharia compliant and free from worldly desires...n the above characteristics are the blessings bestowed for the effort to obey Allah in both body and soul. sufi's donot care abt what modern world offers or what it doesnt.thats my point.
adnan86pk 8 months ago
@adnan86pk and please can u just talk with manners it will look better on yourself and work better with whoever your commenting to,...
BhattisexyJanan 8 months ago
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Everyone shut the fuck up..you guys are going around in circles.
This kind of shit is living proof that 'Religion is the cause of all evil'. If any of you had the decency to keep quiet, you may have justified this 'inner peace' stuff.
And whats with the western/islamic crap going on, Islam gave the west many innovations, and the west likewise, we're all human at the end of the day, it isnt an islamic or western acheivement but one of humanity.
Let me repeat, just shut the fuck up..
Zishan0706 2 years ago
You said it Boy! Well done!
lilboybru 2 years ago
in case you didn't realize no one said anything about that...but i think you sort of made a point with the whole west and muslim thingy :P
s0urpunk 2 years ago
hehe...well im sure i read it somewhere in the comments...
Zishan0706 2 years ago
second thing, Music did not create any impact on any nonmuslim through which he or she became mulsim.
on the other hand, Non-Muslim have accepted the islam because Bible and other relgious book are not covering the entire aspect of human live as compared to islam and teaching of PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM)...
sumairDJ 2 years ago
Uh... what do you think Baba Bhulay Shah did? What did Sultan Bahoo did?
Are you completely ignorant of history?
Hazrat Dawood's Miracle was Music.. singing! How canyou say Music has no impact? Have you heard God's creatures sing and create music!
Sheesh... you religion freaks are completely and utterly mentally challenged.
lilboybru 2 years ago
islam has clear mentioned that what is haram and what is halal
music is not haram directly but there is one saying of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) that music and adultry are close to eachother.....
if you will go and analyze then you will find so many boys and girls in the period of time going to concert and involve in adlutry..
sumairDJ 2 years ago
Listen all the Muslims,whether u living in Melbourne or Sydney or any part of this world,my message is specially for Ali saleh who doesn't know anything about Islam.What ever he said,its all bullshit.Alisalah go and read first and understand what is true Islam ok...and if u don't know anything about Islam,just keep your month shut alright.
armanmn 2 years ago
wow .. a perfect blend .. JJ and salman ahmed .. 2 true legends .. this is one classic song they put together
anasrox 2 years ago
can anybody temme from where i can get its mp3 version .. i mean from wer i kan download
psycho191911 2 years ago
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trekkie1981 3 years ago
LOVE IT THE BEST FROM REST JUNAId and salman
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
woundedtiger40,
how in the frikken world can you avoid listening to music like this????
is it humanely possible?
mannnn, you have some guts bro, really, salute to you for atleast taking a courageous step.
GOD, i feel like self destructing because i am in a state of false denial.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
pathetic motherfucker !!!
mantor420 3 years ago
gaali mat dey dost! :)
sameerk88 3 years ago
it is not raw information that daff is allowed in Islam.... I thought all scholars agreed that when our great prophet arrived to Madinah, little girls were playing the daff. it is more like a fact.
whats wrong with listening to music if:
1) i am letting it control my brain but not in such a way that makes me do bad things
2) if i am listening to music but not forgetting god.
3) not all imaginations from music have to be bad, its up to the person's self control.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
anywayss,
please check out this video... not all music makes you forget god.
/watch?v=dlfhoU66s4Y&feature=related
WE WILL NOT GO DOWN IN GAZA TONIGHT
for a while I really got into your arguement but no mannn, music is not imcompatible with Islam. You could be a good muslim, good human, and still listen to music.
May Allah guide me and you towards whats right....
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no no music is not my profession... its just that i love singing and raag n its been a big part of my life. not a day goes by without hearing atleast one song. i would never take the risk to earn money from music because it is not clear to me whether music is okay in Islam or not. better not transgress to far if it is a transgression, im playing it safe.
i really see your example of keeping guns pretty well... there are some uniform rules of what is good and they are only given by god.
sameerk88 3 years ago
but lets see, not drinking alcohol, eating halal, abstaining from illegal sex, avoiding shirk, all these things are clearly mentioned in quran.
thats why we totally take gods word.
but music, im not that clear about that. maybe some research might help me. i should ask some imams. but problem is they will all give me a different response maybe.
i will go into the tafseer of that surah luqman verse now... thanks for that
sameerk88 3 years ago
i want some really authentic information, yeah you quoted the quran, what could be more authentic than that.
but i want it reallll clear
check this out
themodernreligion.g*om/misc/hh/music.html
but there are references that say exact opposite so only allah knows.
sameerk88 3 years ago
Take a look at this article:
humanbeatbox(dot)com/forum/showthread(dot)php?t=45811&page=5
Salam.
lightningstrike92 2 years ago
Wsalam bro,
that link is not working for me, can you send it to my inbox?
thanks mannn
sameerk88 2 years ago
Bro u seem to be a Muslim in search of truth. I really appreciate that u r not following your Nafs blindly. I'm not a scholar but what I've understood from whatever knowledge Allah has granted me, is that Allah has declared only those things Haram whose negative impacts are much more than positive effects, plus Allah knows that allowing it in a limited amount will not work because these things are so tempting that it's very hard for humans in general to stay within the limits imposed be Allah.
AusPakWoman 2 years ago
A very important and clear example is alcohol. It has certain health benefits if taken in very small amount. But how many people have u seen drinking alcohol in very small amount? May be less than 1%. Same is with music. I know its very tempting and gives u a sort of temporary relief while u r listening to it, but do keep in mind that it's the strongest weapon of shaytan.
AusPakWoman 2 years ago
how stupid.
non-islamic people have been singing and practicing music for years. yet, they live lives just like any other muslim. absolutely no difference in the quality of life. If anything, europeans are way better off than muslims in their quality of life. inspite of alcohol and music. which proves that teachings of quran are nothing but fairy tales.
snickhill 2 years ago
if you could only feel the inner peace of mind a practicing Muslim has, you would not be saying that. Europeans and Americans are the largest consumers of Anti-depressant pills in the world
( 85%) , explains the quality of life.
Bayngan 2 years ago
you are just having to say that moslems have some sort of "inner peace". nothing like that exists in reality. can you really tell with conviction, that moslems are have more "inner peace" than non-moslems? just look around you and you will find that muslims are butchering as well as being butchered all over the world.
snickhill 2 years ago
The living example of that "inner peace" is myself. I am one of those people who started practicing Islam and have found myself way better than being around half naked people in the west. As a matter of fact, I pray everyday that I can save enough money so I can go back to my country and be with religious people again, disregarding the offensive tone you have.
Bayngan 2 years ago
The west is not just about half naked people. It's also about great ideas.Think about the products you use on a daily basis.Everything is a product of the western mind.without which, you would have still been riding on mules and reading quran under a lamp.
All I want to say is that non-muslims(unbeleivers or infidels)are not as bad as your Quran(with all due respect) teaches you. only when muslims accept this as a fact, can you live in peace with people of different ideas and religions.
snickhill 2 years ago
The products I am using today are mere facilities. Islam never keeps us from development. Maybe you need to study more about the Islamic civilization during the western dark-ages.
If Qur'an only teaches to hate and kill nonbelievers, it wouldn't happen that the largest number of converts in the world are in west, most of them women. This explains the propaganda versus the truth.
Bayngan 2 years ago
It's good if you are leading a more peaceful life after reading Quran. but That's all a religion is supposed to do. give you mental strength and happiness and inner joy.but anything more than that is not the purpose of religion.But I have a problem if religion starts dividing people,has a political ideology or speaks violently against those who do not choose to believe it. there are a lot of verses in Quran which invoke unnecessary hatred against unbelievers.
snickhill 2 years ago
Religion is a code of life. I cannot say about other ones but Islam itself is. It teaches you who to love and who to hate. Islam never teaches me to hate anyone, yes, hating the wrong itself. We're taught not to hate the patient, but to hate the disease he has.
Once a person reads the Qur'an with complete context and a clear mind, disregarding all the negative and biased propaganda, he view never remains the same as what's being spoon-fed by the media
Bayngan 2 years ago
Try googling 'Reverse Messaging' and u'll find too much about that on internet or even on youtube. Now a common person cannot distinguish at all whether a piece of music does or does not contain this sort of shatanic stuff. So with the help of music shaytan can literally spread his message to everyone. That could be one reason why Islam does not encourage listening to music.
AusPakWoman 2 years ago
dannng it,
just when i spent last night singing on my karaoke you had to say that. haha
Ohhh Lordd, im a dead man.
but i dont get it naaaa,
its not making any sense to me,
shaytan can spread his message to everyone but i can fight with shaitaan even when i listen to music cuz i would still pray do the basics alhumdullilah and do no other major bad things.
only weakhearted muslims can avoid listening to music i guess since it would control them, wat u think?
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alisaleh7860 2 years ago
This statement must be true for ur own self but not for a real practicing Muslim. BTW what made u think that non-Muslims r intellectually higher? Do u live in a western country?I dont think so. if u do, then you don't know the real meaning of intellect :). Otherwise u would never have said that. Do keep in mind that a Mo'min is placed at the highest level of intellect bcz he/she sees the world with the eyes of soul. But unfortunately ur poor intellect can't conceive this fact. its 2 high for u.
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alisaleh7860 2 years ago
AusPakWoman: Do you know the defination of superstitious? Is it allowed in your religion?
Evening and morning sun makes a lot of shadows, some are good some are bad. In your diction, satanic!!! So should we close our eyes?
If satan wants his messege to proliferate, he'd use the language people understand, right? Misinterpretation is equals to superstitions. Try listening Qur'an in reverse then let me know your opinion.
look8u 2 years ago
one of my fav song ...thnx for uploading :)
razahassan3 3 years ago
my favourite song from junaid.
ponstonxx 3 years ago
He iz changed into a good person and u people should too.
hafizhamza23 3 years ago 3
Stop being Judgemental! Already enough damage has been done.....Peace.
blackcar420 3 years ago
no one is being judemental...its the obvious improvements that people have seen and that what the brother was talking about
shoaibasherazi 3 years ago
what is your definition of a good person? And who is "u" people?
pm4345 3 years ago
hes sold out to the tableeghi kingpin tariq jameel who has funded money so he could invest in kurta business, in exchange for his celebrity image to promote tableegh
trekkie1981 3 years ago
common dude, do you have any proof or are you just speculating? I'm not a tableeghi nor do I give a crap about them but what you are saying unless its substantiated borders on defamation.
pwrpaki 3 years ago
Bhaijaan, proof is pretty evident, and I know him personally. He means nothing to me, nor do I mean anything to him. In the end, everyone does what he/she has to do for money. He sells silk in his kurta shops too, yet that is haraam. JJ, just like anyone turned religions after his musical career dwindled, and is doing good financially, thanks to Tariq Jameel.
trekkie1981 3 years ago
Rightfully said!
AliTehsin 3 years ago
OK So he sells silk in his shop (I have no clue that how true is it) but if he does ignore it but atleast he is stopped from playing satanic instruments, and for that I respect him, and brother in what sense his career was shaking in music industry, he was on his peak when he left.
coolguitar007 3 years ago
so wat if he sells silk, is it haram?
btw, this is a great song.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
music is totally haram? what if i listen to music and lyrics that dont inspire me to do bad things. if i am sure i will not do anything bad, then can i listen to music?
because music is a huge part of my life and thats sad i know. this song ROCKS
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
why the hell are you listnin to any of this music?? you shudnt be online idiot!!!! internet is HARAM YOU KNOW for you guyz!! go get a AK-47 to destroy my pakistan....u make me SICK
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
go get a life i would say......read me the bit Muhammad PBUH sed music is haram!!! music is not the issue.....its the people!!!
after music you guyz gonna breathing is haram...and then feeling or emotions are also haram! PLEASE STOP REPRESENTING ISLAM as religion of non-sence
nauzbillah
mantor420 3 years ago
before islam, if people used to dance and play music, it was to please their god...
now that islam is here, us muslims dont listen to music to please god doe we? atleast i dont.
intentions are huge thing in islam, i dont hav that intention.
I believe that not hurting other people and doing the basics right in Islam is the way to go.
If one person does not pray 5 times a day like most of us dont, then what help does it do if that person is not listening to music.
lets do the basics first.
sameerk88 3 years ago
woundedtiger,
if someone is listening to music, as long as he is not hurting others and not doing shirk, what is wrong with it?
did you watch the movie khuda ke liye? not that i am using that movie as my support but it sort of shows what im talking about.
our iman should be strong and if it is strong, music shud not be able to weaken it in any way.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
okay fine bro,
mashallah if junaid jamshed gave up music, thats very good. if it takes him closer to allah thats good.
lekin yaar, if i am listening to music, how would it take me away from islam? cmon mann, i dont see it at all.
how is listening to music bad? i dont get it. if i am not listening to music that will encourage me to do bad things, then why shud i stop music.
i am not in favor of salman ahmed, he will be punished for playing the azaan in a mosque with guitar.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
bro,,
we the youth of pakistan dont want a taliban culture in our country.
if we have music, if it is not taking us away from allah, then we have no problem.
i love singing, i sing for my boy band, but i love the quran and islam.
im not trying to change islam or anything.
sameerk88 3 years ago
welll,,,
thanks for explaining.
if it is controlling my emotions, it doesnt mean its bad?? you see what i mean?
if i listen to dil dil pakistan and it gives me emotions of love for pakistan, it duznt mean its bad.
its all up to the individual how he handles those emotions.
i donno yaar, im confused. i see wat ur saying, many peeps have said same thing to me.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
just because i am enjoying dil dil pakistan doesnt mean pakistan is more imporant to me than allah.
cmon yaar, lets not make those assumptions.
if i listen to this song jaagi re, wud it mean something else is more important to me than allah?
music is beautiful mannn... you dont have to listen to music and do bad things as a result.
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
nah man u win music is haram....
but gta luv junaid jamshaid songs tho too good!
btw do u have a life or u jus give lecture on youtube on music videos? and listning music at the same time!!
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woundedtiger40 3 years ago
i listen to dil dil pakistan because its a lovely song, it has a nice melody, catchy music.
i feel patriotic when i listen to it. i start loving the great Islamic Riyasat of Pakistan even more.
I donno yaar, I dont know why im living in a state of denial.... i am totally 50/50.... my mind says something but my heart says sumthing.
mind says cant do something god has forbidden us to do
heart says its not hurting anyone
Giving up on music for me is next to impossible, pray for me.
sameerk88 3 years ago
Kiss my ass motherfucker..... dont tell me what to do..... plus if he was so bad before than WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LISTENING TO HIS SHIT? HUH? GET A LIFE!
pwrpaki 3 years ago
first of all, its not 'his' shit, if you are referring to the composition, and what does that have to do with JJ's kurta business or tableeghi kingpin relationships/contacts?. Secondly, what did I ask you to do? Do you understand English? Lastly, you are giving Islam quite a good name by using that language mashallah.
trekkie1981 3 years ago
The post you are responding to was for hafizhamza23 not for you, so I know you didn't ask me to do anything.
The "SHIT" I was referring to is the song. If Mr. Hamza think this stuff is "BAD" then why the hell is he listening to it in the first place?
About your second comment, the language I use have no bearing on the reputation of Islam. Its just one individual spewing crap. You know what gives Islam a bad name? The hypocrites, the lairs, and the ass hole who blow up civilians in Gods name.
pwrpaki 3 years ago
ok sorry, I thought you were talking to me. Just to clarify, I consider you a bro in Islam and am a big fan of both Salman and Junaid. PEace brother.
trekkie1981 3 years ago
cool dude, JJ and Salman were the hight of talent coming out of PK after the Queen and NFAK
pwrpaki 3 years ago
Indeed, NFAK left us way to early, the man was just getting to his peak. May God grant him Jannah and I hope he is always remembered for being our musical icon from Pakistan.
trekkie1981 3 years ago
Plus as I recall didn't Prophet PBUH say that we have no RIGHT to say if another person is a good Muslim or bad? At the end of the day JJ's business is his business, I dont see how it effects you or me short of missing out on decent music. If you don't like T Jamat you dont have to deal with them. I still dont see how how JJ sold out to TJ. He went the path he thought was right and more power to him for that.
Lastly I WILL talk how ever I feel like, NO ONE has the right to tell me otherwise
pwrpaki 3 years ago
My friend, I didnt comment on whether JJ was a good or a bad Muslim. I was just giving a little more insight into the story as I was sort of involved with him back then, as a fan. I also do not think its wrong for him to have a little bit of financial adventurism in the tableeghi quest, as money in this time is the driving factor for most people, nothing wrong with that. He has 3 kids to feed too. I admire JJ as a brother, very nice guy to be acquinted to.
trekkie1981 3 years ago
Thank you
fbrajput 3 years ago
nice
saadjhussain 3 years ago
VARY NAICE!!!
junooni00007 3 years ago 2
i totally agree... vary vary naice!!!
mahwish1 3 years ago 2
haha!
BelligerentPacifist 3 years ago
wat a composition...Us Rah Par was the best album...i love each and every song of the album...excellent
sheri2000 3 years ago 2
What a composition..
Beautiful guitaring...
Dashingzeb 3 years ago 2
cooooooooolest song on planet
romeokhan 3 years ago 2
NICE JOB MAN,
xherii 4 years ago 2
i really like this track
khancharsi 4 years ago 2
Salman wrote and composed this song for JJ for his hit album Us Rah Par, and did the guitars! This would have been how Junoon sounded like with JJ on lead vocals...
Excellent song, Us Rah Par was an amazing album.
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