So you paid way over retail for a 1911 that has problems? That seems a little odd. Supposed to be a high quality gun because its made with better steel than other manufacturers use. I had many gun shops tell me that if i was going to build a nice 1911 and add custom parts, then starting with a norinco was the BEST way to go. Maybe you just need a little fine tuning and a better safety. May as well do a trigger and sear/hammer etc at the same time and you will have an awesome 1911.
Also, fellow Canadian brother... that's a damn nice weapon you've got there. The 1911 was my first pistol too, but I lucked out and found a springfield with a bunch of custom work already done to it. Anyway, if you ever find yourself around southeastern Ontario, give me a shout and we'll take our 1911s out to my club for some fun.
I'm sure someone's already pointed it out but to be quite honest I don't feel like reading 9 pages of comments. Legal transport of a restricted firearm here in Canada is that it must be unloaded, rendered unusable by a secure locking device (trigger guard for example), and locked in an opaque container. The one you have in the video is perfectly fine if you use a line lock of some kind and wrap it around the handle so that the case can't be opened/gun can't be removed unless it's unlocked.
next time get a kimber a colt s&w or Torres my opinions. guns are about price most of the times a narinco from my experience is just for the range mostly
@Eulicidcfinder1 you have to get them used now because i guess Norinco doesn't get licenses for there guns so its hard to get them now. but you'll find one if your determined
@Eulicidcfinder1 the USA has imposed an ban on all norinco/polytech weapons due to a scandal with smuggling chinese fully automatics to california that this company was involved in, you cant buy them there anymore unless its used like the guy said and the price has been driven way up there so they arent worth it anymore.... why spend 500$ on this used when its worth 300$ new? you could spend that cash towards a real 1911, i would if i lived in the USA
@Eulicidcfinder1 yup, me too thats why im buying one of these for 300$ and switching out a few of the internals for high quality target grade, awesome 1911 clone for under 400$ ^_^
@Eulicidcfinder1 Well since you've already got the C finder, let's hope you didn't pay that little kid in freeside more than 20 caps for it. :-P Norincos are pretty near impossible to beat in terms of value for dollar but yea if you're in the US they're actually more expensive because they're harder to come by due to that pesky business Taud mentioned. If you want as close as possible to original ww2 era specs, go with a springfield GI model. Auto ordinance also makes a good original one.
a nice cheap gun reliable just need some upgrades my norinco just the cheapest 1911 around $200 in our currency conversion, but yet it sustain 50,000 rounds or more, it always fired a hundreds of round almost daily in security personnel training class 100 rounds per person and 25 person per class.
the real safety on a hand gun, is and always be, the shooters finger, your not going to pull out the gun unless your going to use it. it would be a different story if the hammer fell on its own but thats not the case, if your a safety hound take it to a gun smith. btw i own both a glock and a Springer 1911 both good guns the 1911 has been in service for 100 years but it has a 100 year head start they both have pro's and con's it comes down to how well you the individual can shoot it
@fomocowboy These norinco 1911's are actually made off the original colt blueprints so they are as close to a GI issue 1911 as you can get. Yes they may be Chinese made, but even a retard can make something properly if given proper instruction.
@Russoft - would there be a remedy to the tight safeties? Would polishing the pieces help? Just asking as I am getting one next month. Thanks good review !
@Alphatrg22 not sure, I haven't taken the time (or had the time) to loosen up the safety. It hasn't been a priority for me, it costs so much to shoot and I'm going back to school (School doesn't make you rich).
@Calum041095 How is dropping the slide on an empty chamber hard on anything? what exactly is it hard on? sure its wear and tear, but no more than the slide cycling from firing....
@fomocowboy Im not exactly certain what it's meant to damage over time, by Im told by numerous trustworthy people not to...And I mean you paid a decent amount of money for it so you don't really want to take any chances.
@Calum041095 By that reasoning, you may as well never shoot your gun. If you're not exactly certain what you're talking about, what makes you so certain you should talk about it anyway? dropping the slide on an empty chamber hurts nothing.
@fomocowboy Look mate Im not looking for an argument. Im just saying that from my knowledge over time it will do damage to your gun. Have I experienced it first hand? No, but Im told by a mate who's an ex service Australian Soldier and Mercenary who now runs a gun shop not to, as well as numerous other old blokes at the gun club who have been shooting for years. Ask any half decent gun smith or experienced shooter and they will agree. Again, you've paid good money for a gun..why take the risk?
If you live in CA the trunk-but not the glove box or "utility compartments" is considered a locked container. Although if you have ammo in the same area of the car as the gun (i.e. your ammo and the EMPTY gun in the trunk) the cops will charge you with having a "loaded gun". If the cops arrest you for having a gun in the trunk it is time to see a lawyer who knows what he is doing. And of course if you keep a gun in the trunk of a car it will rust in about a week.
Norinco 1911s are reputed to be durable. But as you have noted, it also has its flaws and you have proven it on this video. By now you may have probably had it fixed. And there should be an improvement. 1911s do not need to be as expensive as most high end manufacturers would put the price on them. There are good and reliable 1911s that do not cost as high as $900 to $3000, and best of all they have high quality and has excellent customer service. Try to check RIA and American Classic 1911.
The wide sight angle on the Glocks are fucken terrible... I used to be a Glockaholic, but in reality I would rather take a Browning 9mmHP or 1911 anyday.
I shot this gun at the Australian Shooting Academy in Queensland. I had 14 shots with it and it jammed twice. Other than that it was a pleasant gun to shoot.
@kaos3124 I have owned and loved my older model Norinco 1911 for going on eight years and several thousand rounds without even a stovepipe. From what i understand the manufacturing tolerances make for hit or miss but mine is a great gun with none of the problems he is having with newer model. Nothing like 600 year old chinese railroad steel lol
it functions perfectly, no issues with the safeties
skeletinized trigger and hammer, extended mag release all that jazz
but WOW the magazines suck!! VERY STIFF springs
also very tight slide to frame fit ( no rattles)
i think this one is from the latest batch to come to Canada, the serrations in the slide on mine are different than the one in the video, mine has 3 in the front and seven on the rear of the slide and they are angled more as well
@tghgr Ok you got me there i replaced the shit mags so long ago i forgot. Went with the Kimber clips cost a little more but you get and extra round and the bottoms don't fall off after a day at the range
good video , i bought one yesterday just waiting for the paper work then i can grab it takes 2-3days.i hate gun law bullshit do they think criminals r going to the gun shop anyways lol
I'd like to try out one of those Norincos just to compare it with my Springfield Armory 1911. Only problem is the U.S. Govt has banned most Norinco products with the exception of a few shotguns and rifles marketed by IAC or H&R. The M982 (Rem 870 clone) tactical shotgun is nice, but my Norinco SKS is a POS. As with most Chinese products....precision and quality is hit or miss, depending on the particular item. Some things they make are good, but usually their stuff sucks.
@Lex5576 1990's Norincos ( M14s and 1911s ) were hit and miss. Production quality has improved dramatically since then, and Canadian and European gun owners can only benefit from this.
Springfield Armory 1911? heh. No offense, but I'd rather keep a Norinco than a SA Inc.
@Lex5576 No comparison. The Springfield is one of the best 1911's ever made. The Norinco looks like it was made in some village fireplace. The Springfield's even work better than the Colts out of the box.
Dont have to buy the high end brands for sure. I got me a para ordnance .45 and the sucker was a decent price and 0 issues. Got a Norinco M14/M305 and the rifle is perfect. They stepped up the quality for one hell of a good price. Kimbers and S&Ws are now there simply for the name. As good quality stuff out there for a hell of a lot less. I'd feel guilty about supporting China if 90% of the stuff we bought daily didnt come from there anyways!
@kaos3124 What? You call a 1911 a piece of shit over a Glock?
*SLAP* Don't ever compare a shitty ass Glock to a 1911. The fuck is wrong with you? The 1911 has been around for a century for a reason, asswipe, and it was the sidearm of U.S soldiers during WW2, giving it extra badass prestige.
You know jackshit about guns. Take your Glock and shove it up your ass.
@Dresden1065 There where no Glocks in WWII... both have their pro and cons but to say Glock is "shitty ass" shows how much you know about guns -_- There's a reason the Glock is used by the FBI, NYPD, DEA, IRS and other police departments across the US not to mention Military/Police Forces around the world including GSG9 and other special units. They are both good sidearms but given a choice, I would choose Glock. (I own both)
@alphavortex1 I agree this isn't a good 1911, but I must point out that your "examples" of agencies and departments that use the glock are very distorted. To start FBI primarily issues Sig Sauer Pistols (226, 229), their Swat Teams Regial and HRT use a Springfield Professional 1911-> yeah a 1911
NYPD-> carries just as many sigs as glocks (i live in NYC so I know from looking), and their best units in Counter terrorism and ESU usually carry sigs.
@jif10022 No one said they didn't use Sig and 1911's as well as many others. The point is that the Glock IS chosen and for good reason. Yes the IRS has armed officers that bust down doors.
From my collection, my personal overall choice is the CZ75 :) It's just so damn accurate and reliable.
The Glock is a throw away weapon, it wasn't designed to last. Our Special Forces use the 1911, the FBI uses 1911s also. All of our elite units use 1911s. The reason government agencies use them is because they are cheap and how many negligent discharges have their been with Glocks and cops? Too many. Our soldiers in the middle east want 1911s because their Berettas don't have the stopping power they want. The only problem with 1911's is they are manufactured wrong.
@Dresden1065 a NORINCO 1911 IS a piece of shit over a glock, its made in china you fuckstick. have you EVER had ANYTHING that had "made in china" stamped on it be worth a fuck? just because its a 1911 doesnt make it all superior, dont get me wrong, I want one of these norinco 1911's but the glock is still superior to this chinese thing. You're right, there are MANY 1911's out there that are VERY respectable, this is hardly one of them. No U.S. soldier would have carried a CHINESE MADE 1911
I HAVE A NORINCO 1911A1 TOTALY STOCK BESIDES HOUGES AND A 18.5 WOLFF SPRING, PUT AT LEAST 1000RDS THRU IT AND HAVE NEVER HAD A SINGLE JAM OR MALFUNCTION (WITH THE STOCK MAGS) %100 RELIABLE, IT FEEDS ANYTHING, ANY JHP +P NO PROBLEM. IT IS THE ONE GUN I OWN TO EVER ACCOMPLISH THIS, PEOPLE ARE TALKING DOWN ON IT FOR BEING CHINESE MADE, IF THEY OWNED ONE THEY WOULD LOOK AT THESE LIKE US ACTUAL KNOWLEGABLE GUN OWNERS AND SEE IT FOR THE HIGH QUALITY COPY IT IS.
from what i've learned, that gun has tough steel in it. just let your gunsmith give it a little TLC. i bet its gonna be reliable enough and would definitely serve its purpose. cheers!
@kaos3124 no words describe how much I hate Glocks. I'm more accurate shooting a 1911. It feels nicer in my hand too. Sure, a more expensive brand would be nice, but this one has fared well :)
You need to get better magazines. Those are like the ones my Springfield Loaded came with. It doesn't have a supported follower. I got a couple of Kimber magazines with a supported follower. Get stainless steel. Stainless is stronger material. Anyway... they will work. So will Chip McCormicks, or Wilson Combats. All are good magazines. Wilsons are the best. I hear Norinco's 1911s are good guns.
These are common problems with the Norinco - send it to Gunner at Armco - he can fix all these issues and make it pure - It costs about $140 cdn and is well worth it.
I am going to buy a Norinco 1911 A1C from him soon - and would only buy a Norinco that he has "Armco-ized" - I assume you are Canadian since Norinco are illegal in USA.
Did you buy this from an online auction site? I know the video is old so you might already know this, the uplula universal pistol loader will make your life much easier when it comes to loading pistol magazines
The gun is completely safe, In my opinion a firearm without a safety is just as safe as a firearm with a safety if treated as it should be (always loaded etc)
Fine you win, the insult was too much...but really the review on a technical level wasn't done well.................by the way, I'm very insecure and I'm a weapons technician for the army..........better?
First of all you don't know shit about guns! You can't even tell the difference between safety and action. The problems your having is because the gun is new and your weak. Don't write reviews about something you know nothing about! P.S. You Suck!
@marwanesalibi the unreasonable amount of antagonism in your comment leads me to believe your a somewhat insecure person, as there is no other explanation I can come up with as to why you feel the need to insult me.
@Russoft Accept he was right. The gun is awesome but the review is sub par. He was just being honest. Guns are serious business. People will rely on guns to save their lives. NEVER review a gun if you are an amateur.
@Russoft hahaha I was just trolling you. It's what I do, I'm a troll. The review was fine. The Norinco is really good actually despite being a Chinese Imitation.
@marwanesalibi The guy is just showing his gun and inquiring about the saftey, so why bash him? He never claimed to be a gunsmith so lay off him dude.
Russoft. shoot the gun put about 1000 rounds through it and if it keeps sticking, look up how to take it apart and take a fine sand paper to the edges of the beavertail safety don;t go grinding away but that may help. Without looking at the gun its hard to tell whats really holding it up. Have fun with it. Try out the American classic II
Hered the deal whith you'r magazine. The stiff one will smoth out whith use. you can do it faster if you store your mag in the gun this whill compress the spring and fx your problem, the other mag was stored in the gun thats why it's looser, it happens whith all the low-end mags don't get me wrong they work just fine. The grip-safety prob, is realy a mainspring problem you can eather get a spring or bend the old one a little back. I own a SA, GI spec, I'm getting a Norinco for Dad, frthers day
why dont u like just but a cable around the handle so it would be locked and store the weapon in the trunk and the ammo in the front of the car so that way it will be transport safe
hi there, I am looking to move to Ontario this fall from New York, and i was just wondering how easy it is to get a license in Canada. Can you give any advice on what to do?
@jeremy101111 It is real easy to get it. i got my restricted and non restricted in one sitting it too 3 hours and i passed %100 and i never held a gun before in my life. where in ontario are you moving ? i can give you a number for a guy i know if you are in my area it cost $80 for bolth tests and coarse. then you have to submit the tests with another $80
should have gotten a para ordanance or a RIA 1911. double stack .45s. take it into bear country for a hunt. here in the states i carry my deagle 44 mag in the woods for defense when i hunt but so far i've never had to use it. cheers
@76239mmboi - RIA and Para aren't all double stacks. RIA only makes single-stacks. Para has a number of single stacks and quite a few double stacks. Some of the Para are also 9x19s. They aren't all .45's.
@hogger129 yea i know but they still make em double. obviously they aren't ALL double but im just saying they make em which is different than the traditional single stack. more capacity is good. and i know 1911's aren't all .45 acp either. if they were ALL the same there wouldn't be such a diverse market and so many companies manufacturing them. and RIA makes double stacks. check tmhonfire102's RIA.
@76239mmboi - I stick to the single-stack for a reason. More comfortable to shoot. Easier to get your hand around it and the double stack is heavier. The 1911 is heavy enough as it is. If I wanted that much weight, I might as well get a Desert Eagle. RIA doesn't make double stacks. They aren't RIA anymore either. Armscor sells them under the name Citadel now.
THe issues with your gun are because it's a norinco. THey are shit quality compared to a reputable north american manufacturer. Machineing quality is terrible. I would not reccommend these to any one. No regular 1911's do not do any of those things you mentioned. Good video , just not a fan of norinco products.
just getting my RPAL. i'm between a norinco 1911 and a glock 17 for my 1st pistol. i do like to customize things so i'm kinda leaning towards the 1911. but i'd only buy it tuned from arm co. thanks for the review!
@victory01 A first gun is always a good idea to lean towards reliable, accurate, and simple which a glock takes care of just fine. I would say the 19 is the better choice for a 9mm glock. I am not saying a low end 1911 is a bad idea but a glock is generally a really reliable gun when some cheap 1911s are not plus 9mm is a lot cheaper to shoot.
@HippieMagic - A 1911 is much safer than any Glock, therefore it may be best to start out with a 1911, not a Glock. I would say any 1911 is better than a Glock - even this Norinco copy. I had a Rock Island Armory (Armscor copy of a 1911-A1). I bought it for $350 and it's great. I own four 1911s, none ever have had problems. My friend has two Glock 9mm's. A 17 and a 19. The 17 new out of the box had extractor issues. The 19 was having double feeds, even after changing magazines.
And I'll agree with you, the Norinco isn't the best 1911 out there. In fact, I really don't like any Norinco copies at all because I think they're just cheap rip-offs. Not as accurate, not as reliable, just inexpensive. I absolutely hate their SKS and AK copies. I had a real Russian SKS that was much more accurate and higher quality than the Chinese copy. Got rid of it though to buy a hunting rifle. Remington 700 30-06. Great rifle.
I think we've been done a favor now that it's illegal to import Norinco products into the United States. Not from a 2nd amendment standpoint - from a consumer protection standpoint. I'd much rather buy the real thing. An American-made 1911. My only exception is the Rock Island Armory 1911-A1 which is made in the Phillipines. Don't waste your money. If you want a cheap 1911, buy the Springfield GI or the RIA GI. Much better quality at about the same price.
@hogger129 I have a 19 and have never had ANY issues with it. Your buddy could be limp wristing since that is a problem with glocks. I don't doubt that a 1911 is safe but on the low end 1911s you have to deal with reliability issues more often than you do with one of the equally priced polymer guns. I also got my Glock for $360 new due to a trade in on something that was useless to me that the gunshop needed.
@HippieMagic - His 19 had double feeds. We figured it was the magazine and it ended up being something else. He sent it in and hasn't heard back yet. That was about a week ago. The 17 had extractor problems and I think he got rid of it after that. I also can't stand Glock's triggers and the fact that they have no safety other than removing the ammo from the gun or the "Safe Action" trigger. Why would anyone put a safety on the trigger and only there? I have the same problem with the Springer XD
@HippieMagic - No in fact the "low-end" GI models are actually more reliable. The closer to the original Colt A1 model they are, the more reliable they tend to be. They are built to more liberal tolerances and will usually take a bigger variety of ammo, whereas more tightly fitted guns are built to be more accurate and are often more picky about what kind of ammo one runs through them. The Springer Loaded A1 I have is about as good of a happy medium of reliability and accuracy you can get.
There are exceptions though. There are some 1911s that are high quality that are very reliable. Such as Wilson Combat. Wilson Combat, in my opinion, makes about the best 1911s and 1911 parts money can buy.
And now if we go talk accuracy, keep in mind the original Colts were WWI-era manufactured guns. First ones made in 1911. Redesigned into the 1911-A1 in 1924. The last pre Series-70 guns were made in 1945. I've worked with people who were in the military that qualed with the 1911-A1's. Said they were rattleboxes and were all more accurate than the brand new M9's they were issued. We're talking guns that are possibly near 70 years old and were still more accurate than brand new Berettas.
Now with regards to reliability... The 1911 has a proven track record on reliability. In use by the United States for over 70 years. They never jammed out in the desert like the Berettas did. Their slides never broke in half like the Berettas did. You go ask anybody who served in the military when they used the M1911 and ask them how reliable they were. The 1911 is nearly perfect in every way, shape and form. I will gladly debate that with you if you so wish.
Russoft - Don't let the ignorant comments get you down. While it's true you paid a bit more than what you'd have paid for it in Canada, it's actually a very well respected gun by people in the know - especially in its bone stock Govt 1911 form.
Check out its metallurgical qualities in a thread on one of the 1911 forums - search ' Norinco metal question'.
And fyi - Wilson Combat had a list of 1911s they considered worthy to do custom work on. The list included Colt, Springfield, Para and yes, Norinco ( when it was still available in the US)
Ive got the same gun - two tone version. I bought it for $350 new. Same problems in the beginning, stiff safety and a dubious grip safety. After about 500 rounds, it smoothed out. I solved the grip safety problem by bending the main spring (the prong that pushes the grip safety) out more so that it applies more pressure to the grip safety.
But mainly, do a complete detail strip (not just a simple field strip) and clean it. be very liberal with lube and break it in, break it in, break it in!
Going to be honest with you, like others said...kind of a rip off. You could have found grips elsewhere. here in Canada, I can get that blued sporter model for 349.99 CAD new. I can buy a Nickel 45acp 10 rd High cap for 449.99. (I guess, their top of the line 1911).
As for Issues, I was going to buy one of these...but then realized that they are crappy quality; Although apparently, reliable as hell. Maybe since its new it needs to be broken in a bit, let the metal wear in on the safeties.
Most of the concerns you expressed while not typical of higher priced 1911's, are easily remedied by an apprentice pistol smith in a few hours. A good smith could knock those issues out in a lil more than an hour. I love Gunner Grips. They should have come with a small square of 60grit sand paper to knock down the "roughness". Give that a shot, I think it helps alot. Im more curious about that hideously oversized mag release. Might just pick one up to practice melting, and checkering.
Norinco guns are actually much better quality than some "high name" 1911s out there. They're all forged steel for one, they're completely in spec for any drop-in accessory and Norinco is surprisingly making "custom" versions of their pistols, as the one in the video.
@TheHiddenPart I agree totaly I've hand no problems with my norinco type 56 for 140 bucks delivered by mail, nice nickle lined coating in the barrel and an attached bayonet to boot. As for the 1911 I cant wait to get one any one with some ability can smith their own gun with some help. Shooting stuff up is fun it doesnt have to be expensive :)
It's an easy process to do. Tap out the pin that holds the mainspring housing. Don't take out the mainspring housing, just let it slide out enough to relieve the spring tension. Then tap out your thumb safety. Once the thumb safety is out you can pull out the grip safety. Inside is the sear spring (flat with 3 prongs). It comes out easily. Take note of the direction of the prongs. The one facing back is for the grip safety. Curve it more to create stronger tension. Assemble in reverse.
Hey Russoft. I've got a sweet nickel plated Norino 1911 and had bit of a problem with my grip safety aswell. No issues with the thumb safety though. Mind you, I don't have an ambi thumb safety. Anyways, I easily solved my grip safety problem in like 2 minutes and you might be able to aswell. My grip safety didn't have much spring tensoin when I got it and would stay pressed in like yours. I fixed it by taking out the sear spring and curved it more so it pushed out the grip safety stronger.
I did a tone or research on Norinco when I was looking at their Type 97 and most americans said it was "cheap" and everyone else laughed at the Americans and said "ha ha you cant get em, theyre good!" Any company that supplies a superpower (china) with their main battleweapons (QBZ 96- aka type 97) is good enough for me.
Good for you man. And I can tell you why your 1911 is dicking up with the safety, it's a norinco. It's bottom of the barrel, but it still works. You get what ya pay for !!
So you paid way over retail for a 1911 that has problems? That seems a little odd. Supposed to be a high quality gun because its made with better steel than other manufacturers use. I had many gun shops tell me that if i was going to build a nice 1911 and add custom parts, then starting with a norinco was the BEST way to go. Maybe you just need a little fine tuning and a better safety. May as well do a trigger and sear/hammer etc at the same time and you will have an awesome 1911.
Lonnie91a 1 month ago
this guns sucks, then
Manuellaborer 1 month ago
Also, fellow Canadian brother... that's a damn nice weapon you've got there. The 1911 was my first pistol too, but I lucked out and found a springfield with a bunch of custom work already done to it. Anyway, if you ever find yourself around southeastern Ontario, give me a shout and we'll take our 1911s out to my club for some fun.
pleasuretrip 2 months ago
@pleasuretrip you got yourself a deal
Russoft 2 months ago
I'm sure someone's already pointed it out but to be quite honest I don't feel like reading 9 pages of comments. Legal transport of a restricted firearm here in Canada is that it must be unloaded, rendered unusable by a secure locking device (trigger guard for example), and locked in an opaque container. The one you have in the video is perfectly fine if you use a line lock of some kind and wrap it around the handle so that the case can't be opened/gun can't be removed unless it's unlocked.
pleasuretrip 2 months ago
@pleasuretrip much appreciated. I did look it up as soon as the video was over ;)
Russoft 2 months ago
do not carry that 1911 until u get the safety's fixed. probably just need a little polishing.
crashcx 2 months ago
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GUITARMYofONE95 5 months ago
next time get a kimber a colt s&w or Torres my opinions. guns are about price most of the times a narinco from my experience is just for the range mostly
nicholasgaerlan1 5 months ago
colt 1911s are too expensive does anyone know where i can find one of these, im in north carolina
Eulicidcfinder1 6 months ago
@Eulicidcfinder1 you have to get them used now because i guess Norinco doesn't get licenses for there guns so its hard to get them now. but you'll find one if your determined
nicholasgaerlan1 5 months ago 2
@nicholasgaerlan1 k thanks
Eulicidcfinder1 5 months ago
@Eulicidcfinder1 the USA has imposed an ban on all norinco/polytech weapons due to a scandal with smuggling chinese fully automatics to california that this company was involved in, you cant buy them there anymore unless its used like the guy said and the price has been driven way up there so they arent worth it anymore.... why spend 500$ on this used when its worth 300$ new? you could spend that cash towards a real 1911, i would if i lived in the USA
Taud 3 months ago
@Taud i was just looking for something as close as i can get it to the original 1911 while still being affordable
Eulicidcfinder1 2 months ago
@Eulicidcfinder1 yup, me too thats why im buying one of these for 300$ and switching out a few of the internals for high quality target grade, awesome 1911 clone for under 400$ ^_^
Taud 2 months ago
@Eulicidcfinder1 Well since you've already got the C finder, let's hope you didn't pay that little kid in freeside more than 20 caps for it. :-P Norincos are pretty near impossible to beat in terms of value for dollar but yea if you're in the US they're actually more expensive because they're harder to come by due to that pesky business Taud mentioned. If you want as close as possible to original ww2 era specs, go with a springfield GI model. Auto ordinance also makes a good original one.
pleasuretrip 2 months ago
@pleasuretrip alright thanks, and btw i pick pocketed the kid while he was sleeping and got the c finder
Eulicidcfinder1 2 months ago
a nice cheap gun reliable just need some upgrades my norinco just the cheapest 1911 around $200 in our currency conversion, but yet it sustain 50,000 rounds or more, it always fired a hundreds of round almost daily in security personnel training class 100 rounds per person and 25 person per class.
kentawagi 6 months ago
the real safety on a hand gun, is and always be, the shooters finger, your not going to pull out the gun unless your going to use it. it would be a different story if the hammer fell on its own but thats not the case, if your a safety hound take it to a gun smith. btw i own both a glock and a Springer 1911 both good guns the 1911 has been in service for 100 years but it has a 100 year head start they both have pro's and con's it comes down to how well you the individual can shoot it
hosstetter 7 months ago
@fomocowboy These norinco 1911's are actually made off the original colt blueprints so they are as close to a GI issue 1911 as you can get. Yes they may be Chinese made, but even a retard can make something properly if given proper instruction.
darashnia 7 months ago
havent had any issues with my norc safeties.
CanFirearmsReview 7 months ago
@Russoft - would there be a remedy to the tight safeties? Would polishing the pieces help? Just asking as I am getting one next month. Thanks good review !
Alphatrg22 8 months ago
@Alphatrg22 not sure, I haven't taken the time (or had the time) to loosen up the safety. It hasn't been a priority for me, it costs so much to shoot and I'm going back to school (School doesn't make you rich).
Russoft 8 months ago
Tom green? good review.
AdrianDotis 9 months ago
how much was it
ralfy578230 9 months ago
Mate, just a suggestion..Don't ever drop the slide on an empty chamber, Don't mean to knock ya just it'll f%ck your gun over long term. Nice vid btw.
Calum041095 9 months ago
@Calum041095 yeah, I know. I did it not thinking.
Russoft 9 months ago
@Calum041095 How is dropping the slide on an empty chamber hard on anything? what exactly is it hard on? sure its wear and tear, but no more than the slide cycling from firing....
fomocowboy 8 months ago
@fomocowboy Im not exactly certain what it's meant to damage over time, by Im told by numerous trustworthy people not to...And I mean you paid a decent amount of money for it so you don't really want to take any chances.
Calum041095 8 months ago
@Calum041095 By that reasoning, you may as well never shoot your gun. If you're not exactly certain what you're talking about, what makes you so certain you should talk about it anyway? dropping the slide on an empty chamber hurts nothing.
fomocowboy 8 months ago
@fomocowboy Look mate Im not looking for an argument. Im just saying that from my knowledge over time it will do damage to your gun. Have I experienced it first hand? No, but Im told by a mate who's an ex service Australian Soldier and Mercenary who now runs a gun shop not to, as well as numerous other old blokes at the gun club who have been shooting for years. Ask any half decent gun smith or experienced shooter and they will agree. Again, you've paid good money for a gun..why take the risk?
Calum041095 8 months ago
Dude get a new gun.
Ghostisbulletproof 9 months ago
Very good review bro!
james1227 9 months ago
coolest handgun ever.
hardstyle905 10 months ago
what can you say about norinco 1911? compare to other 1911 brand?
about durable, accurate, reliable...?
chanlee751 10 months ago
Everybody knows a Colt is the real deal.
CycleSeth 11 months ago
Your first gun. Boy, they saw you coming.
faffaflunkie 11 months ago
@kaos3124 You must have meant "throw that shit away and get a rock".
faffaflunkie 11 months ago
If you live in CA the trunk-but not the glove box or "utility compartments" is considered a locked container. Although if you have ammo in the same area of the car as the gun (i.e. your ammo and the EMPTY gun in the trunk) the cops will charge you with having a "loaded gun". If the cops arrest you for having a gun in the trunk it is time to see a lawyer who knows what he is doing. And of course if you keep a gun in the trunk of a car it will rust in about a week.
faffaflunkie 11 months ago
Norinco 1911s are reputed to be durable. But as you have noted, it also has its flaws and you have proven it on this video. By now you may have probably had it fixed. And there should be an improvement. 1911s do not need to be as expensive as most high end manufacturers would put the price on them. There are good and reliable 1911s that do not cost as high as $900 to $3000, and best of all they have high quality and has excellent customer service. Try to check RIA and American Classic 1911.
sicnarfaletagab 11 months ago
The wide sight angle on the Glocks are fucken terrible... I used to be a Glockaholic, but in reality I would rather take a Browning 9mmHP or 1911 anyday.
TCFan25 11 months ago
I shot this gun at the Australian Shooting Academy in Queensland. I had 14 shots with it and it jammed twice. Other than that it was a pleasant gun to shoot.
Andy9742 11 months ago
@kaos3124 I have owned and loved my older model Norinco 1911 for going on eight years and several thousand rounds without even a stovepipe. From what i understand the manufacturing tolerances make for hit or miss but mine is a great gun with none of the problems he is having with newer model. Nothing like 600 year old chinese railroad steel lol
angelodarkfury 1 year ago
@kaos3124 The 1911 is way nicer.
FrankieC63 1 year ago
i just purchased a brand new norinco M1911A1
it functions perfectly, no issues with the safeties
skeletinized trigger and hammer, extended mag release all that jazz
but WOW the magazines suck!! VERY STIFF springs
also very tight slide to frame fit ( no rattles)
i think this one is from the latest batch to come to Canada, the serrations in the slide on mine are different than the one in the video, mine has 3 in the front and seven on the rear of the slide and they are angled more as well
tghgr 1 year ago
@tghgr Ok you got me there i replaced the shit mags so long ago i forgot. Went with the Kimber clips cost a little more but you get and extra round and the bottoms don't fall off after a day at the range
angelodarkfury 1 year ago
good video , i bought one yesterday just waiting for the paper work then i can grab it takes 2-3days.i hate gun law bullshit do they think criminals r going to the gun shop anyways lol
MrBossilini 1 year ago
i wouldnt choose norino as my first choice in a 1911, but a good pistol none the less
filbum 1 year ago
I'd like to try out one of those Norincos just to compare it with my Springfield Armory 1911. Only problem is the U.S. Govt has banned most Norinco products with the exception of a few shotguns and rifles marketed by IAC or H&R. The M982 (Rem 870 clone) tactical shotgun is nice, but my Norinco SKS is a POS. As with most Chinese products....precision and quality is hit or miss, depending on the particular item. Some things they make are good, but usually their stuff sucks.
Lex5576 1 year ago
@Lex5576 1990's Norincos ( M14s and 1911s ) were hit and miss. Production quality has improved dramatically since then, and Canadian and European gun owners can only benefit from this.
Springfield Armory 1911? heh. No offense, but I'd rather keep a Norinco than a SA Inc.
TheHiddenPart 1 year ago
@Lex5576 No comparison. The Springfield is one of the best 1911's ever made. The Norinco looks like it was made in some village fireplace. The Springfield's even work better than the Colts out of the box.
faffaflunkie 11 months ago
@kaos3124 1911> Glock
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
Do they sell any real guns in Canada?
pfcajwatkins 1 year ago
@pfcajwatkins LOL. There's more guns in Canada per capita than that of the U.S. Interesting fact. EH?
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
@pfcajwatkins
They sell 1911s that almost match the quality of the springfields and are a fraction of the price. They also sell higher quality m14s.
Grungadin 1 year ago
@pfcajwatkins
are you stupid?
FuriousPixel 1 year ago
@pfcajwatkins of course they do. They are for sale next to the bagged milk aisle.
TheHiddenPart 1 year ago
I have the exact same gun and I have none of the problems you have with yours to be honest I think you got scammed I'd take the gun back.
crazymikey 1 year ago
wow, take a look at that mag release , now that's what you call an extra extended mag release...... with anything, you get what you paid for.
slauj 1 year ago
Did you disassemble the pistol and check to make sure everything is assembled properly.
JamesKirk91 1 year ago
@kaos3124 Glocks are overrated, period. Nice guns I might add, but the 1911 is just more prestige.
FrankieC63 1 year ago
Dont have to buy the high end brands for sure. I got me a para ordnance .45 and the sucker was a decent price and 0 issues. Got a Norinco M14/M305 and the rifle is perfect. They stepped up the quality for one hell of a good price. Kimbers and S&Ws are now there simply for the name. As good quality stuff out there for a hell of a lot less. I'd feel guilty about supporting China if 90% of the stuff we bought daily didnt come from there anyways!
shkotay 1 year ago
i just bought one and there s no problem with the safety grip. working just find..
kimo90 1 year ago
buy original.
psq007 1 year ago
@kaos3124 What? You call a 1911 a piece of shit over a Glock?
*SLAP* Don't ever compare a shitty ass Glock to a 1911. The fuck is wrong with you? The 1911 has been around for a century for a reason, asswipe, and it was the sidearm of U.S soldiers during WW2, giving it extra badass prestige.
You know jackshit about guns. Take your Glock and shove it up your ass.
Dresden1065 1 year ago 25
@Dresden1065 both are good, I prefer 1911 but both are very accurate and reliable.
ThroatSlitta 1 year ago
@Dresden1065
glock will be around for 100 years also bro.
FuriousPixel 1 year ago
@Dresden1065 glocks are superior to 1911's. not that there is nothing wrong with 1911. i love em but i love glockscocks more =)
EwFreDDe 1 year ago
@Dresden1065 and WW1
justinjacques766 9 months ago
@Dresden1065 There where no Glocks in WWII... both have their pro and cons but to say Glock is "shitty ass" shows how much you know about guns -_- There's a reason the Glock is used by the FBI, NYPD, DEA, IRS and other police departments across the US not to mention Military/Police Forces around the world including GSG9 and other special units. They are both good sidearms but given a choice, I would choose Glock. (I own both)
alphavortex1 8 months ago 10
@alphavortex1 Well said.
Calum041095 8 months ago
@alphavortex1 I agree this isn't a good 1911, but I must point out that your "examples" of agencies and departments that use the glock are very distorted. To start FBI primarily issues Sig Sauer Pistols (226, 229), their Swat Teams Regial and HRT use a Springfield Professional 1911-> yeah a 1911
NYPD-> carries just as many sigs as glocks (i live in NYC so I know from looking), and their best units in Counter terrorism and ESU usually carry sigs.
DEA-> Carry both glocks and sigs
IRS carries?
jif10022 7 months ago
@jif10022 No one said they didn't use Sig and 1911's as well as many others. The point is that the Glock IS chosen and for good reason. Yes the IRS has armed officers that bust down doors.
From my collection, my personal overall choice is the CZ75 :) It's just so damn accurate and reliable.
alphavortex1 7 months ago
@alphavortex1,
The Glock is a throw away weapon, it wasn't designed to last. Our Special Forces use the 1911, the FBI uses 1911s also. All of our elite units use 1911s. The reason government agencies use them is because they are cheap and how many negligent discharges have their been with Glocks and cops? Too many. Our soldiers in the middle east want 1911s because their Berettas don't have the stopping power they want. The only problem with 1911's is they are manufactured wrong.
Greyswyndir 7 months ago
@Greyswyndir a "throw away" weapon? lol - ok sure bud
alphavortex1 7 months ago
@alphavortex1,
Sorry, they're junk, just my opinion. A lot of kabooms, they don't shoot lead bullets well, etc.
Greyswyndir 7 months ago
@Dresden1065 not only U.S. soldiers, it was used by most of the allies, meaning if you hate nazi's in general, this is the gun for you.
BALJIT147 8 months ago
@Dresden1065 a NORINCO 1911 IS a piece of shit over a glock, its made in china you fuckstick. have you EVER had ANYTHING that had "made in china" stamped on it be worth a fuck? just because its a 1911 doesnt make it all superior, dont get me wrong, I want one of these norinco 1911's but the glock is still superior to this chinese thing. You're right, there are MANY 1911's out there that are VERY respectable, this is hardly one of them. No U.S. soldier would have carried a CHINESE MADE 1911
fomocowboy 8 months ago
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SteviePeeOutDoorLife 1 year ago
good video cool gun
Vote cpc for a better Canada!
FuriousPixel 1 year ago
I HAVE A NORINCO 1911A1 TOTALY STOCK BESIDES HOUGES AND A 18.5 WOLFF SPRING, PUT AT LEAST 1000RDS THRU IT AND HAVE NEVER HAD A SINGLE JAM OR MALFUNCTION (WITH THE STOCK MAGS) %100 RELIABLE, IT FEEDS ANYTHING, ANY JHP +P NO PROBLEM. IT IS THE ONE GUN I OWN TO EVER ACCOMPLISH THIS, PEOPLE ARE TALKING DOWN ON IT FOR BEING CHINESE MADE, IF THEY OWNED ONE THEY WOULD LOOK AT THESE LIKE US ACTUAL KNOWLEGABLE GUN OWNERS AND SEE IT FOR THE HIGH QUALITY COPY IT IS.
jeffrp9 1 year ago
from what i've learned, that gun has tough steel in it. just let your gunsmith give it a little TLC. i bet its gonna be reliable enough and would definitely serve its purpose. cheers!
baldomarro 1 year ago
@kaos3124 lol, it's oiled well enough right now to act as an anchor too
Russoft 1 year ago
@kaos3124 no words describe how much I hate Glocks. I'm more accurate shooting a 1911. It feels nicer in my hand too. Sure, a more expensive brand would be nice, but this one has fared well :)
Russoft 1 year ago 3
@Russoft I dont like glocks for the looks.. they are chunky.. but i like how they shoot.. they a bit to light though,...
haha48 1 year ago
Dont let the "made in china" stamp fool you. Any knowledgeable gun smith will tell you that Norinco 1911s are quality guns.
ronatx 1 year ago
ur gun sucks
Dean1806 1 year ago
You need to get better magazines. Those are like the ones my Springfield Loaded came with. It doesn't have a supported follower. I got a couple of Kimber magazines with a supported follower. Get stainless steel. Stainless is stronger material. Anyway... they will work. So will Chip McCormicks, or Wilson Combats. All are good magazines. Wilsons are the best. I hear Norinco's 1911s are good guns.
hogger129 1 year ago
These are common problems with the Norinco - send it to Gunner at Armco - he can fix all these issues and make it pure - It costs about $140 cdn and is well worth it.
I am going to buy a Norinco 1911 A1C from him soon - and would only buy a Norinco that he has "Armco-ized" - I assume you are Canadian since Norinco are illegal in USA.
herohumper 1 year ago
Did you buy this from an online auction site? I know the video is old so you might already know this, the uplula universal pistol loader will make your life much easier when it comes to loading pistol magazines
Lexesbenz 1 year ago
The gun is completely safe, In my opinion a firearm without a safety is just as safe as a firearm with a safety if treated as it should be (always loaded etc)
roberto125919 1 year ago
@roberto125919
I always consider my brain as the biggest safety, corny as it sounds.
Lexesbenz 1 year ago
@Lexesbenz
You are completely correct, no machine should be trusted to operate correctly all the time. Why would you trust any mechanism over yourself.
roberto125919 1 year ago
You should of just a bought a springfield or a colt,
silvergtr1985 1 year ago
First of all. I will take a 1911.
RIch
82abnoff 1 year ago
Fine you win, the insult was too much...but really the review on a technical level wasn't done well.................by the way, I'm very insecure and I'm a weapons technician for the army..........better?
marwanesalibi 1 year ago
First of all you don't know shit about guns! You can't even tell the difference between safety and action. The problems your having is because the gun is new and your weak. Don't write reviews about something you know nothing about! P.S. You Suck!
marwanesalibi 1 year ago
@marwanesalibi the unreasonable amount of antagonism in your comment leads me to believe your a somewhat insecure person, as there is no other explanation I can come up with as to why you feel the need to insult me.
Russoft 1 year ago 3
@Russoft Accept he was right. The gun is awesome but the review is sub par. He was just being honest. Guns are serious business. People will rely on guns to save their lives. NEVER review a gun if you are an amateur.
BaddieAss 1 year ago
@BaddieAss last I checked - free country. If you're going to buy a gun for self defense off this review you're an idiot anyway.
Russoft 1 year ago
@Russoft hahaha I was just trolling you. It's what I do, I'm a troll. The review was fine. The Norinco is really good actually despite being a Chinese Imitation.
BaddieAss 1 year ago
@marwanesalibi The guy is just showing his gun and inquiring about the saftey, so why bash him? He never claimed to be a gunsmith so lay off him dude.
Russoft. shoot the gun put about 1000 rounds through it and if it keeps sticking, look up how to take it apart and take a fine sand paper to the edges of the beavertail safety don;t go grinding away but that may help. Without looking at the gun its hard to tell whats really holding it up. Have fun with it. Try out the American classic II
southern8127 1 year ago
Cool review.
You could put a padlock around the two half handles then this case is also locked. ;)
bfgguns 1 year ago
Thanks, I am about to get one and this video helps. Cheers.
PKTORSTEE 1 year ago
I will choose CZ75 intead of Norinco 1911. It is cheap but unsafe
DT5236 1 year ago
Nice plastic case
DT5236 1 year ago
I think if you pay crap money ....you get crap merhandice.
Save yourself the crap....buy yourself an origional Colt or Springfield 1911A1
mortegi 1 year ago
@mortegi its pretty hard to fuck up a 1911, and we aren't all made of money...
SeverEnergia 1 year ago
I thought all guns were banned in Canada.
migkillertwo 1 year ago
@migkillertwo nope... at least, not yet.
Russoft 1 year ago
@migkillertwo welll thats stupid to think how would we hunt retard
switchl12 1 year ago
@migkillertwo lol no i have a bunch of guns. the only guns we can'y have are ak's and fully automatic's
JameR242 1 year ago
@migkillertwo you must be american, all the canadians are good for are pancakes and gingerale right?
BALJIT147 1 year ago
@migkillertwo fuck off u nigger bastard
MercifulBeing 10 months ago
maybe put some grease on the safety?
airsoftguy85rocks 1 year ago
Hered the deal whith you'r magazine. The stiff one will smoth out whith use. you can do it faster if you store your mag in the gun this whill compress the spring and fx your problem, the other mag was stored in the gun thats why it's looser, it happens whith all the low-end mags don't get me wrong they work just fine. The grip-safety prob, is realy a mainspring problem you can eather get a spring or bend the old one a little back. I own a SA, GI spec, I'm getting a Norinco for Dad, frthers day
benner240 1 year ago
all you need is a gun lock wrapped around it
adamlahosky1213 1 year ago
Great weapon! Great vid!
052187ful 1 year ago
why dont u like just but a cable around the handle so it would be locked and store the weapon in the trunk and the ammo in the front of the car so that way it will be transport safe
thezombiekiller87 1 year ago
hi there, I am looking to move to Ontario this fall from New York, and i was just wondering how easy it is to get a license in Canada. Can you give any advice on what to do?
jeremy101111 1 year ago
@jeremy101111 It is real easy to get it. i got my restricted and non restricted in one sitting it too 3 hours and i passed %100 and i never held a gun before in my life. where in ontario are you moving ? i can give you a number for a guy i know if you are in my area it cost $80 for bolth tests and coarse. then you have to submit the tests with another $80
joshuadawson25 1 year ago
@joshuadawson25 I plan on moving towards either the Barrie area or Guelph area
jeremy101111 1 year ago
@jeremy101111 well if you ever go in the hamelton area i know this guy will pass you as long as you dont go there looking like a thug
joshuadawson25 1 year ago
What are the other Norinco replicas like?
SeverEnergia 1 year ago
Great 1911 China has been making weapons for a long time...
jblcva 1 year ago
should have gotten a para ordanance or a RIA 1911. double stack .45s. take it into bear country for a hunt. here in the states i carry my deagle 44 mag in the woods for defense when i hunt but so far i've never had to use it. cheers
76239mmboi 1 year ago
@76239mmboi - RIA and Para aren't all double stacks. RIA only makes single-stacks. Para has a number of single stacks and quite a few double stacks. Some of the Para are also 9x19s. They aren't all .45's.
hogger129 1 year ago
@hogger129 yea i know but they still make em double. obviously they aren't ALL double but im just saying they make em which is different than the traditional single stack. more capacity is good. and i know 1911's aren't all .45 acp either. if they were ALL the same there wouldn't be such a diverse market and so many companies manufacturing them. and RIA makes double stacks. check tmhonfire102's RIA.
76239mmboi 1 year ago
@76239mmboi - I stick to the single-stack for a reason. More comfortable to shoot. Easier to get your hand around it and the double stack is heavier. The 1911 is heavy enough as it is. If I wanted that much weight, I might as well get a Desert Eagle. RIA doesn't make double stacks. They aren't RIA anymore either. Armscor sells them under the name Citadel now.
hogger129 1 year ago
@hogger129 RIA makes double stacks.
HiCapacity 1 year ago
yikes! dont use the slide stop like that lol... pull the slide back and release it to prevent premature wear and tear
nice review, im tempted on picking up the 9mm version
lexmark136 1 year ago
this is my gun
gikaintapan 1 year ago
THe issues with your gun are because it's a norinco. THey are shit quality compared to a reputable north american manufacturer. Machineing quality is terrible. I would not reccommend these to any one. No regular 1911's do not do any of those things you mentioned. Good video , just not a fan of norinco products.
gunnz23 1 year ago
After Break in period these problems will be vanish.
psifactor12 2 years ago 6
just getting my RPAL. i'm between a norinco 1911 and a glock 17 for my 1st pistol. i do like to customize things so i'm kinda leaning towards the 1911. but i'd only buy it tuned from arm co. thanks for the review!
victory01 2 years ago
@victory01 A first gun is always a good idea to lean towards reliable, accurate, and simple which a glock takes care of just fine. I would say the 19 is the better choice for a 9mm glock. I am not saying a low end 1911 is a bad idea but a glock is generally a really reliable gun when some cheap 1911s are not plus 9mm is a lot cheaper to shoot.
HippieMagic 1 year ago
@HippieMagic - A 1911 is much safer than any Glock, therefore it may be best to start out with a 1911, not a Glock. I would say any 1911 is better than a Glock - even this Norinco copy. I had a Rock Island Armory (Armscor copy of a 1911-A1). I bought it for $350 and it's great. I own four 1911s, none ever have had problems. My friend has two Glock 9mm's. A 17 and a 19. The 17 new out of the box had extractor issues. The 19 was having double feeds, even after changing magazines.
hogger129 1 year ago
And I'll agree with you, the Norinco isn't the best 1911 out there. In fact, I really don't like any Norinco copies at all because I think they're just cheap rip-offs. Not as accurate, not as reliable, just inexpensive. I absolutely hate their SKS and AK copies. I had a real Russian SKS that was much more accurate and higher quality than the Chinese copy. Got rid of it though to buy a hunting rifle. Remington 700 30-06. Great rifle.
hogger129 1 year ago
I think we've been done a favor now that it's illegal to import Norinco products into the United States. Not from a 2nd amendment standpoint - from a consumer protection standpoint. I'd much rather buy the real thing. An American-made 1911. My only exception is the Rock Island Armory 1911-A1 which is made in the Phillipines. Don't waste your money. If you want a cheap 1911, buy the Springfield GI or the RIA GI. Much better quality at about the same price.
hogger129 1 year ago
@hogger129 I have a 19 and have never had ANY issues with it. Your buddy could be limp wristing since that is a problem with glocks. I don't doubt that a 1911 is safe but on the low end 1911s you have to deal with reliability issues more often than you do with one of the equally priced polymer guns. I also got my Glock for $360 new due to a trade in on something that was useless to me that the gunshop needed.
HippieMagic 1 year ago
@HippieMagic - His 19 had double feeds. We figured it was the magazine and it ended up being something else. He sent it in and hasn't heard back yet. That was about a week ago. The 17 had extractor problems and I think he got rid of it after that. I also can't stand Glock's triggers and the fact that they have no safety other than removing the ammo from the gun or the "Safe Action" trigger. Why would anyone put a safety on the trigger and only there? I have the same problem with the Springer XD
hogger129 1 year ago
@HippieMagic - No in fact the "low-end" GI models are actually more reliable. The closer to the original Colt A1 model they are, the more reliable they tend to be. They are built to more liberal tolerances and will usually take a bigger variety of ammo, whereas more tightly fitted guns are built to be more accurate and are often more picky about what kind of ammo one runs through them. The Springer Loaded A1 I have is about as good of a happy medium of reliability and accuracy you can get.
hogger129 1 year ago
There are exceptions though. There are some 1911s that are high quality that are very reliable. Such as Wilson Combat. Wilson Combat, in my opinion, makes about the best 1911s and 1911 parts money can buy.
hogger129 1 year ago
And now if we go talk accuracy, keep in mind the original Colts were WWI-era manufactured guns. First ones made in 1911. Redesigned into the 1911-A1 in 1924. The last pre Series-70 guns were made in 1945. I've worked with people who were in the military that qualed with the 1911-A1's. Said they were rattleboxes and were all more accurate than the brand new M9's they were issued. We're talking guns that are possibly near 70 years old and were still more accurate than brand new Berettas.
hogger129 1 year ago
Now with regards to reliability... The 1911 has a proven track record on reliability. In use by the United States for over 70 years. They never jammed out in the desert like the Berettas did. Their slides never broke in half like the Berettas did. You go ask anybody who served in the military when they used the M1911 and ask them how reliable they were. The 1911 is nearly perfect in every way, shape and form. I will gladly debate that with you if you so wish.
hogger129 1 year ago
Russoft - Don't let the ignorant comments get you down. While it's true you paid a bit more than what you'd have paid for it in Canada, it's actually a very well respected gun by people in the know - especially in its bone stock Govt 1911 form.
Check out its metallurgical qualities in a thread on one of the 1911 forums - search ' Norinco metal question'.
You might be pleasantly surprised!
(contd)
bollyballboy 2 years ago
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And fyi - Wilson Combat had a list of 1911s they considered worthy to do custom work on. The list included Colt, Springfield, Para and yes, Norinco ( when it was still available in the US)
bollyballboy 2 years ago
Ive got the same gun - two tone version. I bought it for $350 new. Same problems in the beginning, stiff safety and a dubious grip safety. After about 500 rounds, it smoothed out. I solved the grip safety problem by bending the main spring (the prong that pushes the grip safety) out more so that it applies more pressure to the grip safety.
But mainly, do a complete detail strip (not just a simple field strip) and clean it. be very liberal with lube and break it in, break it in, break it in!
111dogon555 2 years ago
yeah, fixed the grip safety the same way. Thanks for the advice.
Russoft 2 years ago
Going to be honest with you, like others said...kind of a rip off. You could have found grips elsewhere. here in Canada, I can get that blued sporter model for 349.99 CAD new. I can buy a Nickel 45acp 10 rd High cap for 449.99. (I guess, their top of the line 1911).
As for Issues, I was going to buy one of these...but then realized that they are crappy quality; Although apparently, reliable as hell. Maybe since its new it needs to be broken in a bit, let the metal wear in on the safeties.
em613 2 years ago
Damn you got ripped off, you could have gotten a CZ 75 for about the same price or a bit more.
free2game 2 years ago
it was more about buying a 1911. I wanted a 1911 and nothing else. But yeah, in hindsight, I did. Oh well, it happens.
Russoft 2 years ago
Most of the concerns you expressed while not typical of higher priced 1911's, are easily remedied by an apprentice pistol smith in a few hours. A good smith could knock those issues out in a lil more than an hour. I love Gunner Grips. They should have come with a small square of 60grit sand paper to knock down the "roughness". Give that a shot, I think it helps alot. Im more curious about that hideously oversized mag release. Might just pick one up to practice melting, and checkering.
1911shooter 2 years ago
if in canada case not legal for transport.
kinda got ripped off bud.
seems like there is alot wrong with ur gun.
for a new gun
hane6661 2 years ago
norinco made in china . you get what you pay for. next time get better quality gun very import special with safety divice.
defensiveheat 2 years ago
Norinco guns are actually much better quality than some "high name" 1911s out there. They're all forged steel for one, they're completely in spec for any drop-in accessory and Norinco is surprisingly making "custom" versions of their pistols, as the one in the video.
TheHiddenPart 2 years ago 15
@TheHiddenPart I agree totaly I've hand no problems with my norinco type 56 for 140 bucks delivered by mail, nice nickle lined coating in the barrel and an attached bayonet to boot. As for the 1911 I cant wait to get one any one with some ability can smith their own gun with some help. Shooting stuff up is fun it doesnt have to be expensive :)
darkmanoo6 1 year ago
cant you just put a big pad lock on the handle so that nobody can get in to it
schnips074 2 years ago
It's an easy process to do. Tap out the pin that holds the mainspring housing. Don't take out the mainspring housing, just let it slide out enough to relieve the spring tension. Then tap out your thumb safety. Once the thumb safety is out you can pull out the grip safety. Inside is the sear spring (flat with 3 prongs). It comes out easily. Take note of the direction of the prongs. The one facing back is for the grip safety. Curve it more to create stronger tension. Assemble in reverse.
drgolds1 2 years ago
Hey Russoft. I've got a sweet nickel plated Norino 1911 and had bit of a problem with my grip safety aswell. No issues with the thumb safety though. Mind you, I don't have an ambi thumb safety. Anyways, I easily solved my grip safety problem in like 2 minutes and you might be able to aswell. My grip safety didn't have much spring tensoin when I got it and would stay pressed in like yours. I fixed it by taking out the sear spring and curved it more so it pushed out the grip safety stronger.
drgolds1 2 years ago
I did a tone or research on Norinco when I was looking at their Type 97 and most americans said it was "cheap" and everyone else laughed at the Americans and said "ha ha you cant get em, theyre good!" Any company that supplies a superpower (china) with their main battleweapons (QBZ 96- aka type 97) is good enough for me.
CanadianReich 2 years ago 3
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CanadianReich 2 years ago
perhaps. I'll do it when I can get someone to go out shooting with me. Everyone I know is in school and too busy to go shooting... it sucks.
Russoft 2 years ago
I was 214 lbs (97 kgs) or so when I did the CZ 858 video, and I am currently 172 lbs (78 kgs).
Russoft 2 years ago
You lose weight yea?
HiCapacity 2 years ago
that I did!
Russoft 2 years ago
Good for you man. And I can tell you why your 1911 is dicking up with the safety, it's a norinco. It's bottom of the barrel, but it still works. You get what ya pay for !!
HiCapacity 2 years ago
heh heh, well, I'm a poor university student. I buy according to my income.
Russoft 2 years ago