Penn & Teller 501 - More For The Rest Of Us

[ceXhc]

Hedonists like to focus on the more pleasant aspects of human impulse, like lust and gluttony, and leave out that, for instance, our ancestors were greedy murderous bastards as well. We're wired for violence and insecurity and rape. Overcoming impulse isn't just for the monastics who choose to dedicate to such a cause - It's dangerous to distort it that way. Self-control is an obligation of all. You can't just kill whenever someone pisses you off, nor is it simply ok to be a morbidly obese slut.

[S0XF0X]

@ceXhc How does having lots of protected sex and eating yourself fat harm others? Are you really comparing the act of eating and fucking to murder?

[ExEverest10]

@S0XF0X Protected sex harms others in a very limited fashion, only because you could've been working to cure cancer/aids or invent a useful theory/concept to solve big problems in that time. 'Eating yourself fat', has a slightly more significant impact on your immediate social surrounding; since we don't live in a completely socially darwinist society, everyone is a part of a chain, and the weaker links always weigh everyone else down, even if a negligible amount.

[ExEverest10]

@S0XF0X For example, you eating yourself fat makes it slightly more acceptable for others to do it; fat people are supposedly likely to die earlier, so their ability to contribute to society is lessened by that much.

[Dude1337jeeb]

Which episode is this ???

[FatherTime89]

@Dude1337jeeb Obesity

[Brood98]

BTW, in terms of human evolution, unity, organisation, intelligence and creativity meant 1000X more than athletics and physical prowess. Nerds win the wars

See; Sparta VS Thebes.

[R00ki30n3]

Penn is a fatass.

[killubear]

If u look back WAY back to like the egyptians and romans ther wer none or very few FAT ppl its what happens with technology because wat dos tech do make life easier but wat is easy but LESS WORK means mor phat asses

[Entertainmentwf]

wrong. for most ancient societies girth was a quick sign of rank.

[CiJeay02]

THAT MEANS FAT PEOPLE FOR YOU PERVERTS

[beavis2021]

@killubear

fuckin dumbass

[Brood98]

@killubear

ugh, no. There were plenty of fatasses in Rome, Octavian was fat, Claudius was fat, Nero was fat, many of the people found at Pompeii were 'obese' (by their bone structure) Many Mongol Lords such as Ghengis Khan were also fat (he was short too)

STFU and get a job.

[Vodd9]

There's a flaw.

What happens if you eat too much?

Nobody wants to fuck you!

[NaziXSandwhich]

Not true.

[WhiteyRose]

TWATS

[mortson978]

or you could just pull out.

[rawwqq]

lol That was just dumb hippie shit.

[gbh903]

Conveniently forgetting the life expectency was much lower than these days...

[EpicurusThirteen]

On the other hand, people who ate a lot back in the day basically couldn't get out of doing a lot of hard physical work, least of which was walking everywhere. That kind of exercise regimen DOES let you eat all the time, but if you want the paycheck (food) without the work (exercise), you're going to end up in debt (fat as a motherfucker).

[Vash002]

Penn's point is that you are BRED to eat alot, it doesn't matter if ancestors had to exercise and we don't now, the need to eat alot of food is still there.

[EpicurusThirteen]

I agree with what you said except replace "need" with "desire" and you've got it. Your body 'wants' lots and lots of food because people who always ate as much as possible came out on top back when your body was still evolving. Eating a lot no longer leads to you being big and strong and full of energy - you're not working as much anymore: it results in you being overweight and heading to an early grave. So you either need to: exercise a LOT and eat all you like, or eat less than you want.

[mattussr]

well we dont have a need for alot of food.

suprisingly the human body can be healthy on a very mall fraction of what Americans eat daily.

what penn meant was we have an instinct to eat all we can get.

this is nature telling our body to fatten up now while there is abundance, so when their is famine we will survive.

[chunchoe]

@EpicurusThirteen also , i doubt food was AS fattening as it is now days with all the fast food places etc

[exigel]

so a the end of this clipp i thought it was funny how he said 'more for the rest of us, thanks' and i was like 'haha, that's awsome'. and then i remember that i don't fuck and that i don't eat much to become overweight, and then i go 'HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!' lol =)

[WWE09FAN]

lol they're right

more fucking for us yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[vrdice]

By that logic, we should take drugs all day long! Why listen to rationality when millions of years of evolution has made us want to feel good however we can?

Unfortunately, to subscribe to that system of logic you have to ignore some pretty big factors ... like come-downs and various harmful side effects that will decrease the quality of life, and over population and obesity ... which will lead to death.

[IdiotsGoneWild4life]

uhhh yeah. they are for legalizing drugs too.

[BunnySpritely23]

Yet, surprisingly straight-edge.

[dimlightbulb10]

to life is to die. get used to it.

[Sc0ttPrian]

were all ganna die anyway, why worry so much about ur life when your ganna end up in the same place anyway.

[BunnySpritely23]

Difference is how really. You absolutely can eat everything in sight, but so long as its diverse, you'll feel full. We're hard-wired to run, jump and play too, which balances out the eating. As for sex and drugs, come now (get it?) there are a thousand ways to have sex and few of them cause over-population and half the drugs you probably think are awful killers aren't.

[mattussr]

yep, Cocaine has been used in its natural form for thousands of yeas much like we use coffee or tea.

its when man has to fuck around with it that it becomes dangerous.

[zombiemonster]

up to our necks in chins

[ifruti2]

lol i love the condom on the sausage. teller rocks!

[lokibbor]

mike myers is a canadian!, pamela anderson is a canadian!

[DogsAreMyLife]

So this is your list of famous Canadians? Mike Myers is a big boob and Pamela Anderson has a pair of big boobs. Oh yeah, don't tell me I am being anti-Canadian, by accident of birth (which means I had no choice in the matter) I am Canadian. Why did you feel it necessary to post this inane comment on this P&T video. One last point, LEARN WHERE THE SHIFT KEY IS ON YOUR KEYBOARD! Canadians are sooooooo stupid! (Myself excepted, ofcourse)

[turkeylips17]

i am sorry to hear about your tragic birth defect. Unfortunatley, i too share a similar defect. I was accidentally born in Wales, which is to England what Canada is to the US. Are you recieveing treatment?

[DogsAreMyLife]

Hi turkeylips! "Peidiwch â chwyno" as they say in Wales. I will admit I found the mining area of Blanau Festiniog utterly depressing, but the mountains in Snowdinia were impressive - & I love Harlech Castle & the resort town of Llandudno on the north coast(sorry for the spelling). The good thing about Wales is that if U don't like it, its so small U can find the border quickly (though I myself was in no hurry to leave it).

[DogsAreMyLife]

As for what I am doing to remedy my accident at birth, I was born in french-speaking Quebec. It wasn't the asshole of the universe but it was definately within farting distance of it. I hope to retire to someplace warm, & where there are no Canadians! Anyway "Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda"

[turkeylips17]

i make it a point not to speak welsh. i have never been back since i was born, some 26 years ago. so i used Babel fish translator. Pareille à vous mon Canadien Amie

[DogsAreMyLife]

Hey turkeylips! Well "Peidiwch â chwyno" means 'stop complaining' and "Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda" means 'Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!" However, I can relate to your aversion to speaking the language of your birthplace. The only french I speak now is when a french person upsets me, then I let loose a torrent of french obscenities that leaves their ears bleeding.

[turkeylips17]

i speak more french than i do welsh lol

[McRank]

yeah i was born in Australia and don't speak a fucking shred of English

[BlackRainbow696]

Its season 5 its not out on dvd yet.. as far as i know but it should be on show case in the states.

[drewjustforyou]

what season is this?...... didnt they only do 3 seasons? i dont remember this one..

[neoseekerwraith]

Amen brother, more for the rest of us.

[princeofexcess]

actually we produce more food if there are more eaters so ... not more for the rest of us if someone doesnt eat!

[Jake1722]

Fuck you, i have 0 kids, more time for stuff i want to do, and im SO skinny 10 POUNDS LESS I WOULD BE IN THE HOSPITAL, so i can run from FAT COPS, cops should all be slaughered!

[hydralisk125]

Grow up child, the police are the only thing protecting you from your abusive father who I am asuming has already beaten you to the point to semi-retardation.

[ShavosBlackJacket]

10 pounds less and you would be in a hospital... and how is that a good thing?

[peppythepirate]

If you're so skinny that 10 pounds less you'd be in a hospital, there's no way you're healthy enough to outrun cops.

[Jake1722]

wtf ever, some people are still monkeys, just look at who fighting this modern pointles war army monkeys!

[AbbeyNormal]

They're right about the genetics, it's our survival instinct that tells us to overeat and oversex and all that. But I do believe that as human beings we have the ability to control our impulses, and whether we do or not is entirely our choice. It's about what's important to us. We're not genetically supposed to be skinny and celibate, though if we want to be for our own reasons we can be. We're animals, but that doesn't mean we can't be anything more.

[ExaltedLeader]

I think that Penn and Teller forgot about this thing called 'The Dawning of the Age of Reason', and how science and civilization got her in the first place. And no, it was not by merely 'following our every instinct'. It was by figuring shit out, learning to cooperate and realizing that an 'every individual for themselves' attitude was for the things with teeth and claws rather than fingers and brains.

[krowanders]

We don't have teeth? As a matter of fact, Penn and Teller are absolutely correct. Look up "Hunter Gatherer." That's what they're talking about.

[phantazmo]

not to mention popular science points out now that what may have caused us to grow such large brains was because we ate soooooooo much meat.

[AbbeyNormal]

Not just meat, but cooked meat. When you cook something, it gives you more energy than when it's raw (I'm not sure why that is, but I read something about it recently, have to go find it) so it's a pretty unique food situation we have. That's another part of why we get fat, we're making our food more efficient energy-wise.

[TrappedKitty]

You sure it has nothing to do with gluttony, brought on by TV hypnosis and advertisement carpet-bombing?

How about MSG or fluoride (even small amounts lightly burn the throat, causing you to crave sweet and fatty food in order to soothe it) or other sodium compounds of all sorts (which do the same thing) or even bovine growth hormones?

It's making us dumber and totally dependent upon big business for food, when it should be our local farms.

[AbbeyNormal]

Gluttony isn't brought on by TV, it's a biological imperative. In the wild, you have to eat as much as you can because there's no telling when your next meal is going to be. When we settled down and started making enough food to go around, we didn't turn off that part of our brain that tells us eat to excess. We have to make an effort to change our eating habits. TV doesn't help, of course, but it's not the root cause.

[hairyfedd]

what's your stance on dihydrogen monoxide?

[paulbottomley42]

Evil stuff, it should be banned. One of the most prolific solvents in our society today, and is directly responsible for many, many deaths each year.

:)

[tngu77]

dihydrogen monoxide = H2O = water

My stance is: "Are you f***in' kidding me? Ban the stuff?!?"

di = 2, hydrogen = H: so 2 hydogen molecules, mono = 1, oxide = O: so 1 oxygen molecule.

It's basic chemistry!!!!

[Kujien]

You're Brain Washed man!!! You need to stop drinking that stuff it kills people :)

BTW - People are being sarcastic :)

[Novosti86]

Very very evil stuff :D you can see all hippies are against it! They want to ban it from our use :D hahahah

[tngu77]

You don't get the sarcasm, do you?

Sad...

[Ragade]

LoL, but what of us asexuals, with hormonal problems? Yes, we are wired to eat, but food isn't distruted fairly at all! The G8 have nearly all food on earth, so yes, I do have a problem with those who do eat a bit more than they should. However, people should be happy with their own images and have some form of self-control, some....

[CelVantez]

Asexuals suck. I'll just go with the sexuals, they give. Asexuals just whine and whine and never even want any. Heck, if you whine that much atleast have an agenda, like, not fucking! But if that's the agenda, why not just fucking wear a condom over your head and run like a monkey while crying inside of it. I'm just kidding.

[AbbeyNormal]

How many asexuals do you know? I don't whine, I just hang out. If you all want to fuck, no problem. As long as I'm not involved, I'm cool.

[Ragade]

I don't know many others.

[pacololo420]

listen i dont care wat people sat penn and teller rock PEACE!

[Dabljuh]

I watched the episode and I still can't help but disrespect fat people. But: I have a lax definition of what's "too fat". Penn ain't fat, he's hulky. A bit more than what he'd look best with maybe. Lots of people would do better with a bit of meat on them. What I can't stand is some of those ridiculous heaps of lard. I mean, people who are really several hundreds of pounds above what their "BMI" would be. Coup de grace, please

[MikeZdoesit]

What a load of shit, DNA? I'd dont see anyone in Rwanda with a weight problem - Its just Fat Americans eating giant squid and Albatross eggs for breakfast every morning, here's a tip, don't eat anything that comes out of a bucket

[yerk3]

Are you on crack? Albatross eggs...WTF? I've heard of quail eggs, but only on those competitive cooking shows (think "Iron Chef") where they make food nobody actually eats outside of a few trendy, expensive restaurants. I also saw emu eggs at Bread and Circus once. They were 7$ a pop and clearly for yuppie-chow.

[blackjamm]

Quail eggs are quite common, not just Ironu Chefuru food. They are also quite tasty.

[yerk3]

There are no overweight people in Rwanda because everyone is starving to death. Starvation, in case you haven't heard, is unhealthy.

[MikeZdoesit]

Emu eggs at bread and circus? I think your the one thats on crack - It was an exageration, unlike your waist line, and you proived my point, if it was DNA and genetic make up there would still be fat people over their. And there isnt, except the few tourists such as yourself

[yerk3]

No, I didn't prove your point at all. If people in the third world had access to plentiful food, and were still thin, your argument would hold water. People in the third world, however, do not have sufficient access to food, and therefore are starving <i>to death.</i> Did you read all of that, they are DYING.  They are not skinny by choice, custom or biology, they are on the verge of death.

[Jake1722]

i was born in the shitty USA, and i think TOM GREEN is the only american who eats that shit,

[MikeZdoesit]

I'm Australian and couldn't be happyer, my point 3 weeks ago was 'eating in excess' although I still think the bucket tip would be a valuable peice of advice for some people - dont take things so seriously, I'm over it

[ZacharyWDS17]

Tom green is canadian.

[caveman314]

Its a good point, but its still your own fault if you're fat and have 20 kids.

[LastKennedyStanding]

Yeah this wasa dsiappointment to me as p and t fan. they didnt do, or open my eyes to shit. they just talked about food and sex...

[yohopirate]

lololol you guys are noobs. what changes the facts that our ancestors ate and fucked a lot? Those who ate and fucked very little have minimal contribution to today's population. Those ascetics, sterile, or other unfortunates of the past left zero descendants amongst us today. Nothing.

And Jesus' love never did shit for me, unless you mean that it's working now that I'm an atheist

[stringanime]

What a fool. He needs Jesus' Love.

[choongii]

His argument is flawed. The food our ancestors ate is quite different from the preprocessed foods we have today. Today's food contains more fats and sugars. Then there's the fact that there's a lot more food available in our society. When there's not a lot of food around, of course you're gonna stuff yourself; it could be days before you have your next meal.

[choongii]

(cont.) Also, we used to do physical exercise (read: hunting) for our food. Nowadays we sit behind a computer to earn money for food. The situations are entirely different, and cannot be compared.

[drammenchick]

Precisely, choongii. We are nowhere near as active as our hunting and food gathering ancestors. Nor do we have the problems of trying to store enough food to survive winter. This P&T clip is pointless, literally.

[caveman314]

That was there point. People have the urge to eat evrything in sight. Our ancestors didnt have a lot of food in sight, so they didnt eat too much. Now we have more than enough food, but we still have the instinct to eat all of it.

[eskimoe25]

He didn't really prove anything, but this was just a short clip so whatever.

[Jaikodragon]

Oh my gosh! I love this XD

[angeliqueafrica]

Pressuring them into suicide? How does society do that?

Looks like P&T are just plain pro-gluttony because 'evolution' has made modern Americans fat. Yeah,right. *roll eyes* Americans (like Penn) are fat cuz they eat way too much and exercise little.

[rrlynch]

He's not "pro gluttony," at least I saw nothing of the sort. Rather, he is simply taking a logical approach to a common problem/situation. If you watch the show you'll see how, in certain episodes, they attack people who push their lifestyles on others. That's exactly what they were going for with this.

[Indicatif]

Yeah, all Americans are fat, every last one of them *rolleyes*

[Yoshimiko951]

By the standards of our goverment, Most every person is overweight in America. 6'1 and 180 lbs, is considered overweight.

[RedNymph234]

Um as much as I agree with the whole loads of fat Americans...there are fat Europeans and Asians too ya know.

[RedNymph234]

That makes alot of sense. Fuck society and its ignorance. Let people eat without pressuring them into suicide.

[angeliqueafrica]

Yet more complete nonsense from P&T. Not surprising. Two complete morons with a show. Hurray for American t.v.

[mangaman1337]

what's the matter? can't back up your arguments so you incorporate a stereotype in it to rack up supporters?

[sorienor]

Yep, never let facts get in the way of the propaganda you've been fed.

[mintypeach]

hahahahaha. Teller.