a few mistakes you did was that i don't think the plane was as fast as you when you were ditching, secondly, you obviously did not initiate 9 degree pitch angle which is th optimal angle for your plane to set in the water and not tear it to pieces. thirdly, your plane was "jumping" when you were skimming it which could result in sudden lost of lift given the circumstances due to the angle of attack of your plane
Yes, it's bad... hence the bubble comment on the video. Unfortunately I was in a real hurry at the time (ironically to catch a flight out of LGA) so didn't have time to redo some of the bits that could have been better.
Ouch that was a near tail strike on takeoff. Gurus don't fly like that! :) And you fly into the river nose down, they tried to keep it in the air as long as possible, considering possibilities (back to LGA, land at TEB, EWR), then finally made a decision to end up in Hudson, kept it in the air as long as possible, set flaps to 2 while a few hundred feet above the river and then ditched it.
actually, the discovery documentary said he landed at a 11degree pitch up, cuz any thing far from that would either hit the tail to the water, the plane slows down and it hits the water hard
Too bad ATC assigned a 220 heading to them after they informed ATC that they had lost thrust in BOTH engines. Too bad that they didn't turn back to the airport (about a 150 heading). If you measure the distance from the GW Bridge (where they lost thrust) to 48th St (S of Central Park, abeam where they touched down) you'll see that it is longer than the distance back to LaGuardia Airport. Glad everyone walked away!
It's really not that simple. Although your measurements are correct keep in mind that there was no way of knowing that at the time. Furthermore, they were taking into consideration those on the ground... a failed attempt to return to La Guardia could have resulted in the aircraft crashing into one of the most populated parts of the country. A water landing was the only realistic option given the circumstances.
Just FYI, LGA has a SID which dictates that the aircraft (no matter what) must fly this departure. The reason on why they did not turn back is because for their manuvers, and their position, they would not have made it. There are obstructions to the right, left, infront, and behind them.
The commercial manuver (which you're refering to) is called a Power-off 180, and would not work as the aircraft would loose too much altitude and speed...
US Air pilots practice this very departure and situation (though not to this extent) every time on their pro-check. The pilot did everything that he was trained to do in that situation.
Dude, if you put protection over it. THe jet can not get power. THey said on average 1000 bird strikes happen each year. It was just unlucky for this pilot that he got both engines hit. A plane is certafied to fly on half the engines as far as you want to go.
It was fun to watch, but obviously flawed. My understanding is that the decent for a water touchdown is 12 degrees pitched up, allowing the tail section to hit the water first (I guess to avoid those engines getting wet until the plane slows down a bit). Your approach wasn't anything like that. Also, what was your airspeed? I'm just guessing, but wouldn't they have been just this side of a stall?
You are likely right about the angle, although the tail would not have dragged for long before the rest quickly slammed into the water (remember one of the engines was ripped off on impact).
This video was not intended to be scientific recreation of the events, simply a dramatization of what occurred. Only the NTSB has the necessary data to produce an accurate animation, which I'm sure they will do eventually.
This problem will never really go away completely. Measures can be put into place to deter birds from entering certain areas, but at the end of the day they don't follow ATC's commands and will go where they want.
As for the effect of a bird-strike on an engine, this can cause incredible damage (jet turbines are actually very sensitive). The impact can break off some of the turbine fins... which in turn can cause a huge imbalance in the engine causing it to literally rip itself apart.
I know the takeoff is crap... I was in a hurry (ironically to catch a flight that followed almost exactly the same flight-path) and didn't have time to go back and redo it.
As for the engines, there were certainly reports that they caught fire (accounts from passengers and the ground) at least for a bit. The smoke trail was likely not as pronounced as it is in the video, but again I was in a hurry and simply used the smoke feature of FSX.
I miss the landing, you stopped the film at the impact! Except for this, great video!
SubwayTrains 1 month ago
a few mistakes you did was that i don't think the plane was as fast as you when you were ditching, secondly, you obviously did not initiate 9 degree pitch angle which is th optimal angle for your plane to set in the water and not tear it to pieces. thirdly, your plane was "jumping" when you were skimming it which could result in sudden lost of lift given the circumstances due to the angle of attack of your plane
Uchiha97Itachi 2 months ago
a321 to earth we have a birdstrike
Uchiha97Itachi 2 months ago
O.K. 3 probs,
1. Airline was Us Airway, that was not
2. Aircraft was A320 not A321
3. Flight number 1549
MrIssues2 3 months ago
The plane said: i cant touch the water
kbReXz 6 months ago
people on the cruise are like "what the...."
moneytalks1911 8 months ago
That's not us airways
Airplanes501 9 months ago
well done nice landing!.... :)))
phillips34653 11 months ago
Metalmwlisha101 first of all YOU CANT USE A20 on fsx only that airbus becuase that's what on the game so he tried to do a close plane to the 320
XNinjaZero 1 year ago
One of the great feats of aviation
markmimp 1 year ago
It is a very awesome video! The music, the flying(except the steep takeoff) all looks real. Awesome vid!=D
FlyPilot225 1 year ago
i hate the "Pull Up!" warning so much, it has to be the most annoying warning on a plane
johnathon124 1 year ago
It was a A320 not an A321. You should download a A320 or else it was a good video;)
SingaporeAirflyer 1 year ago
It was a Airbus A320, not an A321. You should download a A320
SingaporeAirflyer 1 year ago
only the left engine caught fire
sjjlp 1 year ago
IT IS 1549
1055939 2 years ago
1549
Jadenbott 2 years ago
das is nen a321 aufm hudson is aber nen a320 gelandet!
Julexjule 2 years ago
Damn dude, are you trying to launch a space shuttle there because man, you'll be a great shuttle pilot. Did you see that takeoff!
FSXTutorial 2 years ago 4
Yes, it's bad... hence the bubble comment on the video. Unfortunately I was in a real hurry at the time (ironically to catch a flight out of LGA) so didn't have time to redo some of the bits that could have been better.
flightsimulationguru 2 years ago
The A321 rate of climb is massive it is able to climb that steep easily without reaching stall speeds
kwilson4961 5 months ago
can u send me link to download?
bodioto 2 years ago
u have used imovie / apple sounds
w333silke 2 years ago
thats wrong plane it's obrit airlines
retardedpen12 2 years ago
you can set a hot key for engine fire
humanidt 2 years ago
nice howd you get the bird strikes..... i mean how did you get the engines to catch fire? i have fsx
airplanefan1 2 years ago
you can go to the controlsmenu and set a hotkey for engine fire, and you can select which engine to enflame, and enable a fire extinguisher
humanidt 2 years ago
wat "event category" is the engine fire under like, "Failures, Engines, or what?
TheGamerDude365 2 years ago
Ouch that was a near tail strike on takeoff. Gurus don't fly like that! :) And you fly into the river nose down, they tried to keep it in the air as long as possible, considering possibilities (back to LGA, land at TEB, EWR), then finally made a decision to end up in Hudson, kept it in the air as long as possible, set flaps to 2 while a few hundred feet above the river and then ditched it.
Spielbergsp 2 years ago
yes he should lose the torque and climb
traineepilot57 2 years ago
actually, the discovery documentary said he landed at a 11degree pitch up, cuz any thing far from that would either hit the tail to the water, the plane slows down and it hits the water hard
humanidt 2 years ago
lol you where probably high enough to make it back to the airport
tnt12051993 2 years ago
the vid title says 1592
QwertyAzerty2009 2 years ago
what the fuck were you saying in the radio transmission? were you just babbling lol
DrinkOmally 2 years ago
he edited with imovie and it has tht sound effect cause he probly doesnt know exactly wht they said in the real thing
alphaniner101 2 years ago
would be better in fs 2004, fsx sucks!
neovirtua1 2 years ago
didn't land at the thing but good..... i did that too and i got it good =D
driftracerdude415 2 years ago
Slight prob. that is a A321 orbit airlines default but flight 1549 was a A320.
randomjunky6 2 years ago
oi?
lukadelelli8 2 years ago
how did u get the fire to come out of the engines?...wat settings did u use?
IBit3Hard14 2 years ago
The most interesting part of the whole thing was the landing in the river. I feel robbed. Or cheated. Finish the animation, please.
JamesMorlan 2 years ago 2
FLIGHT 1549
jacob96aw 2 years ago
ok first of all captain c. is one of my heroes second of all first he land the back of the plane and then the front part but good vieo
gami020596 2 years ago
actually it was flight 1549
videowatcher101010 2 years ago
Yes, I know. YouTube is being dumb and not letting me edit the video. It will be fixed when the site is back to normal again.
flightsimulationguru 2 years ago
how do u hurts an aircraft on fsx
CAKEvid 2 years ago
Too bad ATC assigned a 220 heading to them after they informed ATC that they had lost thrust in BOTH engines. Too bad that they didn't turn back to the airport (about a 150 heading). If you measure the distance from the GW Bridge (where they lost thrust) to 48th St (S of Central Park, abeam where they touched down) you'll see that it is longer than the distance back to LaGuardia Airport. Glad everyone walked away!
kciRsnurB 2 years ago
It's really not that simple. Although your measurements are correct keep in mind that there was no way of knowing that at the time. Furthermore, they were taking into consideration those on the ground... a failed attempt to return to La Guardia could have resulted in the aircraft crashing into one of the most populated parts of the country. A water landing was the only realistic option given the circumstances.
flightsimulationguru 2 years ago 3
Just FYI, LGA has a SID which dictates that the aircraft (no matter what) must fly this departure. The reason on why they did not turn back is because for their manuvers, and their position, they would not have made it. There are obstructions to the right, left, infront, and behind them.
The commercial manuver (which you're refering to) is called a Power-off 180, and would not work as the aircraft would loose too much altitude and speed...
Tn272SP 2 years ago
US Air pilots practice this very departure and situation (though not to this extent) every time on their pro-check. The pilot did everything that he was trained to do in that situation.
Tn272SP 2 years ago
Did you know the Takeoff whas to steep?
dranzer12345 2 years ago
mr pilot was true hero. what did was amazing, my self a pilot trust me people thats was hard to do , u need a big heart good jod .
kanwarasandhu 2 years ago
It wasn't a "crash landing." Everybody keeps saying that. It was a smooth landing on water.
anonysquirrel 2 years ago
Great job.
Nondas 3 years ago
I am glad you showed the photo of the pilot. One of a kind, a true hero.
oicurageologist 3 years ago
Dude, if you put protection over it. THe jet can not get power. THey said on average 1000 bird strikes happen each year. It was just unlucky for this pilot that he got both engines hit. A plane is certafied to fly on half the engines as far as you want to go.
thefsxflyer 3 years ago
It was fun to watch, but obviously flawed. My understanding is that the decent for a water touchdown is 12 degrees pitched up, allowing the tail section to hit the water first (I guess to avoid those engines getting wet until the plane slows down a bit). Your approach wasn't anything like that. Also, what was your airspeed? I'm just guessing, but wouldn't they have been just this side of a stall?
nojyt 3 years ago
You are likely right about the angle, although the tail would not have dragged for long before the rest quickly slammed into the water (remember one of the engines was ripped off on impact).
This video was not intended to be scientific recreation of the events, simply a dramatization of what occurred. Only the NTSB has the necessary data to produce an accurate animation, which I'm sure they will do eventually.
Thanks for the comments.
flightsimulationguru 3 years ago
Perhaps we should install motion-senstive shotguns over the engines? What a retarded comment.
Congratulations, you know nothing about aviation.
IADaveMark 3 years ago
i know really.. even if that were legal.. there is no difference between a live or dead duck getting sucked in a turbine
snikery121 2 years ago
This problem will never really go away completely. Measures can be put into place to deter birds from entering certain areas, but at the end of the day they don't follow ATC's commands and will go where they want.
As for the effect of a bird-strike on an engine, this can cause incredible damage (jet turbines are actually very sensitive). The impact can break off some of the turbine fins... which in turn can cause a huge imbalance in the engine causing it to literally rip itself apart.
flightsimulationguru 3 years ago
Far too steep climb ,don't pull back on the stick so much and climb slowly!
And there was no fire at all just the engines stopped working so I will give you 3/5!
BulgarianInCanada 3 years ago
I know the takeoff is crap... I was in a hurry (ironically to catch a flight that followed almost exactly the same flight-path) and didn't have time to go back and redo it.
As for the engines, there were certainly reports that they caught fire (accounts from passengers and the ground) at least for a bit. The smoke trail was likely not as pronounced as it is in the video, but again I was in a hurry and simply used the smoke feature of FSX.
Thanks for the comment...
flightsimulationguru 3 years ago
Maybe I am wrong for the engines!
your welcome for the comment dude!
BulgarianInCanada 3 years ago