Maybe you should try a hybrid, ie. silicon as the first transistor and germanium as tyhe second. There are some positive things being said about it over the internet. The first transistor is merely a booster anyway, and it's the second that does the actual distortion. I have an old but working XB103 'top hat' (General electric UK) germanium from the early 60's that came from an old radio kit my uncle made years ago, which I'll use when get round to it.
Nice video. They all sound very close when ran wide open. The difference here seems to be in the cleanup with the guitar's volume knob. This is my take with the volume down: The Arbiter was a tad darker than the rest. The silicon was brighter/thinner than the rest. The Sunface, London and BYOC sounded almost identical, with a great mix of cut, thickness and articulation. I prefer the Sunface, but was surprised by the BYOC. It sounds fantastic. Too bad Sunface white dots are no more!
sometimes I believe everything sounds the same on YT. I recorded a video in which a fuzz face sounds almost the same as an overdrive pedal. Of course they sound very different outside youtube, but YT has got this tendency to compress everything too much, maybe...
First of all, kudos for dialing in these Fuzzies like they are supposed to sound; rich, complex, and woolly with great cleanup as the volume knob is rolled back! Too many other Fuzz demos sound like someone put a pickup on a dental drill; all fizz and no body. :-S
To me, the D.A. refurb. and the BYOC are my favs, but they are all quite nice. Great playing, too!
type in g.s.wyllie and check his sites out-he hand builds pedals that are far better than any i`ve ever heard-(he even worked at electric ladyland!) how many of your yuppie pedal builders can say that? most were just being born-lol
@THACONCH ALSO, which sort of Analogman Sun Face are you using? I know you have the NKT275 Germanium transistors onboard, but are they Red Dot originals or White Dot or High Gain? I plan on getting one soon and I would like to nail that level of distortion.
So little difference - 95% the same tone - I think if you`re lucky enough to have one of these then that's probably fine! a mental case of GAS, but I understand ;)
Actually - the tonal differences are much more apparent in person. It's really hard to get all the nuances on a small digi-cam with a condenser mic. IMHO - The Blue Arbiter Refurbish is the best Fuzz Face I've heard to date....
Cool vid and nice pedals . What kind of kind of germ tranies are in the london? I just settled on the nkt275 sunface and a fulltone 70. I have a vid up of the new hendrix fuzz thur a cranked marshall super 100jh(it is on the second song in the vid). I like the nkt sunface the best.
I felt the Fuzz Face and the London sounded the best. I was surprised to actually hear he higher treble response from the silicone. I use si Fuzz Faces and I never heard that till your demo. BTW, where did you find the "Top Hat" knobs for your blue Fuzz Face? Thanks and take care.
can you please tell me where i can get the dallas arbiter fuzz face you have here? of modded where the mods where done ? thank you for your time . to me the arbiter sounded the best .
It sounds like you're on one pu throughout your 'shootout'...is limiting our guitar tones a good thing? Then what good's a shootout w/1 only 1 pu demoed? Or did I miss something? Thanks anyway-
Maybe you should try a hybrid, ie. silicon as the first transistor and germanium as tyhe second. There are some positive things being said about it over the internet. The first transistor is merely a booster anyway, and it's the second that does the actual distortion. I have an old but working XB103 'top hat' (General electric UK) germanium from the early 60's that came from an old radio kit my uncle made years ago, which I'll use when get round to it.
CrankCase02 4 months ago
is that a maxon ad-80 in the background?
TacooGrill 10 months ago
did I hear a pop coming out when you engaged the Byoc Germanium fuzz?
Nimrod9458 10 months ago
Nice video. They all sound very close when ran wide open. The difference here seems to be in the cleanup with the guitar's volume knob. This is my take with the volume down: The Arbiter was a tad darker than the rest. The silicon was brighter/thinner than the rest. The Sunface, London and BYOC sounded almost identical, with a great mix of cut, thickness and articulation. I prefer the Sunface, but was surprised by the BYOC. It sounds fantastic. Too bad Sunface white dots are no more!
LPMojoGL 11 months ago
I like the London the best.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
sometimes I believe everything sounds the same on YT. I recorded a video in which a fuzz face sounds almost the same as an overdrive pedal. Of course they sound very different outside youtube, but YT has got this tendency to compress everything too much, maybe...
rafasounds2010 1 year ago
Thanks for the shootout !
Stof31 1 year ago
First of all, kudos for dialing in these Fuzzies like they are supposed to sound; rich, complex, and woolly with great cleanup as the volume knob is rolled back! Too many other Fuzz demos sound like someone put a pickup on a dental drill; all fizz and no body. :-S
To me, the D.A. refurb. and the BYOC are my favs, but they are all quite nice. Great playing, too!
freakybuzz 1 year ago
type in g.s.wyllie and check his sites out-he hand builds pedals that are far better than any i`ve ever heard-(he even worked at electric ladyland!) how many of your yuppie pedal builders can say that? most were just being born-lol
davelwelch 1 year ago
Good video!
Is the sunface a standard nkt274 or high gain, or red dot?
bluesforsouls 1 year ago
the london sounded closer to the dallas arbiter, the analogman had more grit and attack.
aektzis91 1 year ago
Sunface
therangersinger 1 year ago
analogman sounds better for rhythm, the london or dallas arbiter sound better for rhythm. go figure.
aektzis91 1 year ago
They all sound kinda simliar apart from the Dallas being more wooley.
The thing that surpsrised me was that the BYOC sounded as good as the boutique jobs..... nice one.
Danthehorse 1 year ago
diablo 76 have you tried these pedals using a humbucker-equipped guitar? how do the london and sunface compare??
aektzis91 1 year ago
The Silicon is the best tone for me.
totalkarband 1 year ago
Those all sound excellent! Good move on making this video, brings some of the true Fuzz Face tonalities to the people looking for them.
THACONCH 1 year ago
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THACONCH 1 year ago
@THACONCH ALSO, which sort of Analogman Sun Face are you using? I know you have the NKT275 Germanium transistors onboard, but are they Red Dot originals or White Dot or High Gain? I plan on getting one soon and I would like to nail that level of distortion.
THACONCH 1 year ago
dallas arbiter and the london if only keep 2...
bubbathepurple 1 year ago
The NKT is hard to beat !!!
flagggy 1 year ago
I liked them all. Do you know how a Zvex fuzz factory would compare?
butterscotchtele 1 year ago
Sorry! wasn't paying attention, and somehow clicked 1 star rating.. great vid. Don't know how to undo that..
funkybt 1 year ago
BYOC seems to sound alot like that Dallas ... nice vid ... thanks!
bullhonkydeluxe 1 year ago
where did you get the casing for the fuzz face shape.
coughlintm 2 years ago
It's sili-CON, not sili-CONE. Silicone is for fake boobs and bathtub caulk. Silicon is for semiconductors.
jspartacus 2 years ago 4
I know it's Silicon - but my Texan "draw" brings out the "E" ..... :P
diablo76 2 years ago 6
It makes me wonder... if they could make a great sounding fuzzbox out of fake boobs, well, I'd be first in line to order one! ;-)
jspartacus 2 years ago
@diablo76
Nice try. Cmon now, admit it. You goofed.
Dig the playing though. Don't need to hear a whole lot to tell if someone can play.
gangtwanger 1 year ago
@jspartacus Most people pronounce it like that. They know the difference.
sportsportsport 1 year ago
So little difference - 95% the same tone - I think if you`re lucky enough to have one of these then that's probably fine! a mental case of GAS, but I understand ;)
ThisCatsGotSkin 2 years ago 2
Actually - the tonal differences are much more apparent in person. It's really hard to get all the nuances on a small digi-cam with a condenser mic. IMHO - The Blue Arbiter Refurbish is the best Fuzz Face I've heard to date....
diablo76 2 years ago
@diablo76 I build one. Let me know what you think.
Orbit Mk1
thanks
orbitbuilder 1 year ago
NIce video, I tried an analog man sunface - sounded muddy to me. Silicon almost sounded the best - yours was excellent as well. Thanks
TubeTone71 2 years ago
The Silicon is my production pedal.... :)
diablo76 2 years ago
What a great shoot out vid. Wish more demos were like that.
ETownsend08 2 years ago
BYOC
CREWDOG289 2 years ago
I'd say london and silicone are my 2 favorites. I actually liked the silicone a bit better. The BYOC was close behind though.
popomczowzow 2 years ago
cool shootout! i like this :-)
bobby d from TGP
roccotanto 2 years ago
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phatsound1 2 years ago
THEY ACTUALLY ALL SOUND GOOD
scottagalt 2 years ago 5
im liking the dallas and the london.
baddmaddogg 2 years ago
Cool vid and nice pedals . What kind of kind of germ tranies are in the london? I just settled on the nkt275 sunface and a fulltone 70. I have a vid up of the new hendrix fuzz thur a cranked marshall super 100jh(it is on the second song in the vid). I like the nkt sunface the best.
phatsound1 2 years ago
what silicone transistors are you using
eggman6 2 years ago
repeating the question. which Si trannies have u used?
Lordofthethings2 2 years ago
BYOC for me!
outstitch 2 years ago
Great Job!
What kind of Guitar are you using?
AndyBaylor 2 years ago
Thanks for making this vid. I like your silicon one as much as any of the others.
ThePathofHavoc 2 years ago
Nice test... nice gear - they all sound usable!
For chord work (with gain settings you used) hardly a difference btwn any of them...
For solo I would say
Dallas - Nice, Darker, a little less focused
Analog - well rounded more detail and focus
London -Slight mid emphasis (color)detailed
Deviltone - MOST Presence out of group
BYOC - sounds like the Deviltone with less presence
I was considering London Fuzz, but I am leaning toward the Analog
nice Job
kcalamari 2 years ago
the london seems to the one that doesn't clean up as much when the volume was rolled back.
I like the sunface and the dallas arbiter for the soloing.
tommart123 2 years ago
Great demo!
I felt the Fuzz Face and the London sounded the best. I was surprised to actually hear he higher treble response from the silicone. I use si Fuzz Faces and I never heard that till your demo. BTW, where did you find the "Top Hat" knobs for your blue Fuzz Face? Thanks and take care.
dstrats 2 years ago
see you've got a full drive 2 mosfet over there. i really want to get it. if you get a chance, can you demo it?
krisgoldmusic 2 years ago
whcih has a fatter and warmer sound for solos ?
jonathanmccoy 3 years ago
in my opinion the Blue Arbiter* over there
* or however you spell it
VarashTR 2 years ago
can you please tell me where i can get the dallas arbiter fuzz face you have here? of modded where the mods where done ? thank you for your time . to me the arbiter sounded the best .
whourdaddy 3 years ago
Nice comparison. They all sound great, each has its own personality.
BTW, it's "silicon" - not "silicone".
infernalhammer 3 years ago
2:21 u mak'n sing, ~nIce~
DistortedDingo 3 years ago
Very interesting, thanks for this vid =)
francis85 3 years ago
Hey what model of byoc is that? is it the vintage or the tonebender?
pulspc 3 years ago
it's an older BYOC Fuzz Face board - the parts are just some things I had around.
diablo76 3 years ago
Any detail on the transistors? Type? Gain?
Your BYOC and the Dallas sound really good...
I dont really care for Si but your prototype sounded pretty good too.
taller76 3 years ago
killer job Thanx
ozzycriss 3 years ago
Nice demo. Pretty much convinced me to go with the BYOC. :)
FenderStrat6218 3 years ago
Good demo - all of the pedals sound great! I think my favourite is the refurb. Sunface sounds too polite...London is cool as well...
thepman28 3 years ago
It sounds like you're on one pu throughout your 'shootout'...is limiting our guitar tones a good thing? Then what good's a shootout w/1 only 1 pu demoed? Or did I miss something? Thanks anyway-
vampyros1 3 years ago
I used both the neck and the bridge pickups.
diablo76 3 years ago
can i know what is your strat Volume and tone setting when you using the fuzz pedal??
tylersuhr77 3 years ago
Guitar tones were on "10" and the volume was on "7" for the "cleaner" sounds and then wide open for full fuzz.
diablo76 3 years ago
Thanks for the demo, Diablo. It's like you're reading my mind! I totally wanted the low down on cool fuzz boxes!
bigtophalloween 3 years ago
dude..they all sound good.. i like the fuzzface and the sunface the most
MetadelicAve 3 years ago
Great job as usual but really tough choice. I think I like the Fuzz Face the best.
mrcali68 3 years ago