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Hey Jonny, it looks like you started a new wave of excitement. If you could find a small glass ashtray with a round "scoop" depression to put the magnet in you might get lucky and it will remain perfectly stable and not move as it spins. You could put just one drop of oil in the depression for lubrication. Then you could increase the voltage and push the magnet up in speed as far as you can go. You would have to wear safety glasses.
The high spin rate will give you good voltage generation on your pick-up coils. If you add a load resistor to a pick-up coil you should hear the magnet spin down as it starts to drive a load.
When it really really starts to spin fast just be careful. The magnet will become the Tasmanian Devil. It is cheaply made and I fear it might fly apart, it looks like it has air bubbles in it and might not be that strong. I am just guessing.
Hi Drevtoobe.I have 2 magnets.One spins verticle,thats the one used in this vid and the other has an angular rotation.You can see this one in my other vids.I think the verticle one has higher rpm but like you noticed it wanders about.This actually is quite useful as when it bumps into a coil it seems to make the voltage jump up a couple of volts and does not have much of an effect regarding rpms off the magnet so if you have 4 arranged in a square the wandering magnet is never far from a pickup
coil.The angular spinning magnet stays still so pickup coils can be arranged around it quite easily.I did a test yesterday and i can get over 50v from one aircoil so the voltage generation is working good.I think tha magnet is made from magnetite which is a mineral off iron so is very hard.
I have also experimented with concave lids and i have one which is similar to what you describe so i will test it and let you know what happens.Thanks for your comment regards jonnydavro
For the RPMs not changing when the spinning magnet goes near a pick-up coil, I can suggest a simple experiment: Try different load resistors connected to your pick-up coil, 100 ohms, 200 ohms, 500 ohms, 1K, etc. You should find some resistor values that make the magnet slow down. That's because now you are really extracting energy from the spinning magnet through the pick-up coil attached to a load. The multimeter does not act as a load. You should feel the resistor get hot.
The Bedini circuit draws narrow pulses of current.
The DVMs you are using are not intended to measure such currents. Narrow pulses contain lots of high frequencies that the meters just can't handle.
If you make careful and correct measurements, you will find that the Bedini motor really isn't very efficient. Short pulses of current lead to higher resistive losses than wider pulses of a lower current.
Hi KnolegemongerThe red meter is a trms meter so well capable off accurate measurements.
Whether The Bedini is efficient or not,I am having fun pursuing an interesting hobby and thats what matters to me.Thanks for your comment regards jonnydavro.
Hi knowledgemonger.I realise you have an electronics background and accurate measurements are important or they mean nothing but i am doing the best i can with what i have.I too would like to see this on a scope.I hope to get one in the future but then it is just the not so small matter of learning how to use it.Regards Jonnydavro
Scopes are not all that hard to use. They are really just a machine that draws a graph of voltage vs time.
Did you look up the meter's bandwidth?
A trick for making a more accurate average current measurement is to build your own current shunt and a low pass filter to filter the voltage on the shunt. You then measure the output of the filter with the DVM.
Your local surplus electronics store may even have the shunt.
Hi knowledgemonger.The meters Frequency response is 40hz-400hz so i presume that is not high enough?and thanks for the tip on the shunt.Regards jonnydavro
If you know the RPMs and the angle over which the current pulse flows, you can work out how long (in time) the pulse is. You can then make a very inaccurate estimate of the frequency content of the current.
Every cycle of the pulse looks like all the others so the only frequencies in the pulse are the harmonics of the fundamental frequency.
If the pulse was perfectly rectangular, the frequencies would have to follow the rule: Y = sin(X)/X
Excellent work! So, if I understand this correctly, you can add all of the outputs together right? (18+6+3=27 volts) And your input is only 4.5 volts and you are running the motor. Is this correct? Nice work!
Actually you can's just add all the voltage outputs. It's not about adding voltages, it's about adding power. The real question is how much power can you get from each of the three coil setups and to compare that to how much power you are consuming to run the motor.
As Knowledgemonger stated, making precise power measurements is not easy but it can be done.
Have you laid the pickup coil on it's side and spun the magnet inside the hollow core? If so, would you share your results?
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Hey Jonny, it looks like you started a new wave of excitement. If you could find a small glass ashtray with a round "scoop" depression to put the magnet in you might get lucky and it will remain perfectly stable and not move as it spins. You could put just one drop of oil in the depression for lubrication. Then you could increase the voltage and push the magnet up in speed as far as you can go. You would have to wear safety glasses.
Drevtoobe 2 years ago
The high spin rate will give you good voltage generation on your pick-up coils. If you add a load resistor to a pick-up coil you should hear the magnet spin down as it starts to drive a load.
When it really really starts to spin fast just be careful. The magnet will become the Tasmanian Devil. It is cheaply made and I fear it might fly apart, it looks like it has air bubbles in it and might not be that strong. I am just guessing.
Drevtoobe 2 years ago
Hi Drevtoobe.I have 2 magnets.One spins verticle,thats the one used in this vid and the other has an angular rotation.You can see this one in my other vids.I think the verticle one has higher rpm but like you noticed it wanders about.This actually is quite useful as when it bumps into a coil it seems to make the voltage jump up a couple of volts and does not have much of an effect regarding rpms off the magnet so if you have 4 arranged in a square the wandering magnet is never far from a pickup
jonnydavro 2 years ago
coil.The angular spinning magnet stays still so pickup coils can be arranged around it quite easily.I did a test yesterday and i can get over 50v from one aircoil so the voltage generation is working good.I think tha magnet is made from magnetite which is a mineral off iron so is very hard.
I have also experimented with concave lids and i have one which is similar to what you describe so i will test it and let you know what happens.Thanks for your comment regards jonnydavro
jonnydavro 2 years ago
For the RPMs not changing when the spinning magnet goes near a pick-up coil, I can suggest a simple experiment: Try different load resistors connected to your pick-up coil, 100 ohms, 200 ohms, 500 ohms, 1K, etc. You should find some resistor values that make the magnet slow down. That's because now you are really extracting energy from the spinning magnet through the pick-up coil attached to a load. The multimeter does not act as a load. You should feel the resistor get hot.
Drevtoobe 2 years ago
The Bedini circuit draws narrow pulses of current.
The DVMs you are using are not intended to measure such currents. Narrow pulses contain lots of high frequencies that the meters just can't handle.
If you make careful and correct measurements, you will find that the Bedini motor really isn't very efficient. Short pulses of current lead to higher resistive losses than wider pulses of a lower current.
knowledgemonger 2 years ago
Hi KnolegemongerThe red meter is a trms meter so well capable off accurate measurements.
Whether The Bedini is efficient or not,I am having fun pursuing an interesting hobby and thats what matters to me.Thanks for your comment regards jonnydavro.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
What does the spec sheet of the true RMS meter say about its bandwidth? They usually stop well short of 15KHz.
Do you own a scope? It would be useful to take a look at what you are measuring.
knowledgemonger 2 years ago
Hi knowledgemonger.I realise you have an electronics background and accurate measurements are important or they mean nothing but i am doing the best i can with what i have.I too would like to see this on a scope.I hope to get one in the future but then it is just the not so small matter of learning how to use it.Regards Jonnydavro
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Scopes are not all that hard to use. They are really just a machine that draws a graph of voltage vs time.
Did you look up the meter's bandwidth?
A trick for making a more accurate average current measurement is to build your own current shunt and a low pass filter to filter the voltage on the shunt. You then measure the output of the filter with the DVM.
Your local surplus electronics store may even have the shunt.
knowledgemonger 2 years ago
Hi knowledgemonger.The meters Frequency response is 40hz-400hz so i presume that is not high enough?and thanks for the tip on the shunt.Regards jonnydavro
jonnydavro 2 years ago
If you know the RPMs and the angle over which the current pulse flows, you can work out how long (in time) the pulse is. You can then make a very inaccurate estimate of the frequency content of the current.
Every cycle of the pulse looks like all the others so the only frequencies in the pulse are the harmonics of the fundamental frequency.
If the pulse was perfectly rectangular, the frequencies would have to follow the rule: Y = sin(X)/X
where X = 2 PI when one cycle fits exactly.
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knowledgemonger 2 years ago
The coil has resistance and inductance so there will likely be another effect that follows
Y = 1/sqrt(1 + Z^2)
where Z=1 at the the frequency where F = 1/(2 * PI * L/R) L being the inductance R being the resistance
If you can do a little math and run a spreadsheet, you should be able to make an estimate of the frequency content.
knowledgemonger 2 years ago
Very Nice.
GBluer 2 years ago
I'm very much curious as to how you have your circuits set up...
Any chance you could do a diagram?
Thanks
comwarrior69 2 years ago
Hi Kevin.The circuit can be found at overunitydotcom but i will send you details regards jonnydavro
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Jonny:
Excellent work! So, if I understand this correctly, you can add all of the outputs together right? (18+6+3=27 volts) And your input is only 4.5 volts and you are running the motor. Is this correct? Nice work!
Bill
Pirate88179 2 years ago
HI Bill.You are correct.Many thanks jonnydavro
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Actually you can's just add all the voltage outputs. It's not about adding voltages, it's about adding power. The real question is how much power can you get from each of the three coil setups and to compare that to how much power you are consuming to run the motor.
As Knowledgemonger stated, making precise power measurements is not easy but it can be done.
Drevtoobe 2 years ago
Thats just trippy.
moonreft 2 years ago