AGNOSTIC FRONT - 12XU show 1986

[GabbzandAndz]

anakey!

 lol

[robisgangsta1]

agnostic front isnt racist there. hardcore punk and now a days there more metallic hardcore.

[MalloryPowell1]

Who are you to tell anyone what to Believe? talk a about it now! - - iuchat . com

[SedVicious]

yes as comented below, i think this is 1984 as well. it def aint 1986 cuz they roger had yhe long hair then. u can just tell by the sound anyway

[jpzeitlin]

does anybody have the video of this full interview???

[livingstranger]

I was 3 years old when this video was made. Wish I was there, punk and hardcore now just isn't the same. Seems now all kids are interested is in girls (reference to the perverted emo music put out today). I'd rather go back to the old style, but things change I guess. To bad it's for the worse, kids now are such wimps...not sayin I'm a tough guy but my God it's pathetic now.

[Druffmaul]

Pretty sure this is 1984, not '86.

[kingnuke]

yeaah hardcore niggas right there!

[JohnBornstein]

Haha, you got me, I hate ignorance so much I couldn't resist.

[JohnBornstein]

Black Flag was formed way before Agnostic Front was and BF's songs are more unique and complex. If anyone was inspired by anyone here, it is AF by BF.

[dandangoose]

not buying it. proof?

[dandangoose]

eh, black flags better

[NascarAndChicks]

man the 80s were nuts.

were heading back to this shit after Obama beankrupts the country.

The same way jimmy carter did in the late 70s.

this country is going to go to shit

[navajo5150]

I love Agnostic Front but to say that kids in LA didn't have it bad, isn't true. Kids in LA were getting beat up by cops and jocks and living on the street just like they were. Back then shit was bad everywhere. Ya there were those rich fucks, but they got there asses beat. Los Angeles was dirty, grimy and tough back then. Have you guys ever heard Lee Ving piss off a crowd by saying there all from SF, that is some funny shit. That 5 on 1 shit is bullshit, no matter who it is.

[Wyattbloodywyatt]

What did California ever do to him?

[SedVicious]

4:51 yea stigma represent! od skool NYHC rules

[Shadowboxin03]

hell yea shit im at the library listening to this thats how ghetto i am

[fugneon]

I LOVE how Agnostic Front is true to hardcore. I LOVE how they said that they don't come from California and/or a jacuzi. Agnostic Front is a great hardcore band! California hardcore does not stand any chance against Agnostic Front!

New York Hardcore is the BEST!!!! And so is crossover thrash!!!!

FUCK racism!!!! Those racist boneheads (racist skinheads) could all just go to hell to be fucked in the ass by the devil!

Agnostic Front is fuckin awesome!

[thedigitalcollective]

outside of the bands the fans can strait up kiss my ass,ill even hold my ass cheeks open.that tough guy crap sucks.not enough chicks at shows..a sausage party so im sure you wont have a problem kiss'n my ass..i used to mess with oi and punk but ill tell you what due to seeing comments like i seen in this thread i can say im glad i hung up my boots.i turned tribal,if your not from my side of the river your a food source.i almost enjoyed hearing these men speak but the comment thread sucks dick!

[fleetadrumgo]

this is also from an interview in the old punk fanzine ink and disease WOW

[PHALANX100BC]

Skinheads were a white/black working class movement that began in england....original skinhead was SKA..image found intimidating and found its way to the punk/hc movement....were there dikhead/racist skins..yea..but they got thier asses beat if they ever came down to the Cameo theater in Miami Beach....now in Denver,,,thats another story.....

[mindyou78]

you know theres actualy a video posted on you tube of AF playing the cameo theater back in 86

[PHALANX100BC]

Thanks for the tip!

[durok1]

worth watching just for the short interview clips.

[oddeLeit]

keep you fucking nazi opinion away from hardcore....HC doesn`t like you...

[cazoo]

Wow, what year is this? Did you guys not get the memo? AF were NEVER a nazi band. Did you somehow fail to read their lyrics? And members of AF are of Cuban, Italian, and Jewish descent. They are the furthest thing from white power.

[baphometsportal]

Fuckin' Yankees... Speak Southern you Bitches...Just kidding, New York City Hardcore fueled many hot, violent summers of my youth and Agnostic Front were the BEST!

[whitedragonawa]

This is post modern philosophy.

Seems like NYHC back in the day was about being positive and motivational. They were more punk in attitude and how they dressed. Now they are all thugged out and about fighting and drugs. How did this happen?

[SedVicious]

you're kinda right. but i think it was because of the huge corny hip hop influence that is very big in nyc. not anymore, but back in the day, the nyhc scene and the nyc hip hop scene were very similar(inner city shows, undergound, strreet related, opinionated, the attitude...) and often crossed paths

[whitedragonawa]

Yeah its interesting its kind of sad that so man HC kids make fun of punks with mohawks and skinheads are no longer wearing braces and boots but athletic footwear and bro hats with shaved heads. Also how did the negative attitude get in the scene witht he drugs money sex crime and fighting?

[punklover99]

depends i see a lot of skins still wearing boots and braces

[xYxYxYxYxYx]

The original NYC skinhead groups had people of all colors... not just whites.

There were many blacks, mexicans, and orientals who proudly called themselves "skinhead"

Those days have passed though and nowadays, due to stereotypes portrayed by big media, people automatically associate "skinhead" with "racist" and assume that all skins are racists, which is total bullshit.

Racist skinheads are the total opposite of everything the original skins stood for.

NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF

[BassLineRythem]

How are they nazis?Roger said when he was peformeing "blacks,whites,punks,skins together." Just because your a skinhead does'ent mean your racist.There are black skinheads out there&spainish ones.The un-original racist fucks are so stupid that they can't come up with anything new,thats why they took the skin look.

[crashthepopularkids]

skins are fuckheads... too bad AF are skins

[mothball50]

Didn't Jello Biafra(Dead Kennedys) not like these guys for some reason?

[Terrorizer89]

eh, Jello had his opinion about everything and everyone.

but the term skin was a lot different from the skins we know today

[HorrorpunkGuanatos]

Jello needs to learn to shut the fuck up

[Terrorizer89]

what the hell do you have against ol' jello

[HorrorpunkGuanatos]

Ok..no disrespect to the kennedys...they made some great music.. but I always felt that jello cared more about politics than punk rock.. with his extremist opinions and spoken word albums

Anyway I have so much respect for Agnostic Front that Jellos stupid comments do nothing but piss me off

[spastic017]

bit true....jello's a loudmouth for sure but i think he doesn't care more about politics. he just sang his opinion in dk's songs. but he made great music with the melvins too and life after life, and those songs have nothing to do with politics.

[kreator989]

ok everyone stop bitching about if there racist or not it dont matter

[citizen666]

you are a candidate for extermination. the stupid must be eradicated to protect the genetic integrity of our race

[thedigitalcollective]

integrity of humans? LOL very funny chief,very funny...

[citizen666]

I saw agnostic front @ Lamours in brooklyn back in the day, they were awesome! True skins from back then know what the movement was about and we kicked the shit out of nazi scum for boot stompin fun. Oh yeah by the fuckin way I am black, not that it matters, but because of bonehead comments, I thought it necessary to place the music and the scene into context. NYHC was about the stuggle. CLASS struggle, not racial and the purity that was important was that of being real. Oi punk all rock is Blak

[kreator989]

your a fucking nigger if im ever in ny for a hardcore show i will beat your fuckin head in with a bat and enjoy as you lay on the ground lifeless and i doubt you ever fought any nazi skins you prolly satyed in the back hoping no one noticed you

[farbrorbla]

Then i guess you have no idea of the Ny scene haha. Have you forgot Oxblood, Templars etc...

[citizen666]

You okie mother humpin inbred waste of sperm. If you ever did come to NYC you probably just mill around Times Square with the rest of the overweight cows from the continental U.S. looking for Macy's thinking you were having a "real New York experience" because you went to Ground Zero. If you did make it to a show you would be jumped by D.M.S. and I would/could make sure of that. >:-(

[kreator989]

whose dms? a bunch of s.h.a.r.p faggots that need to attack a person 5 on 1?

[HorrorpunkGuanatos]

Lots of original skins were black...something that people seem to forget these days

[xmorthosethx]

Nazi oi is better than ska and this too... they need more balls

[MrDeGroot]

kulturloser idiot. typisch nazi, von nichts eine ahnung. du kennst nicht mal deine eigenen wurzeln, du arme sau.

[unseengbh16]

shut the fuck up

racism is pure bullshit

dont link that to Oi! or hardcore ever again asshole

[skinsknot1]

this isnt fuckin nazi oi! this is hardcore punk i dont give a fuck if you connect oi! or nyc hardcore to nazism u fag but its not so fuck off ADOLF

[FuckingGayPanda]

this is fucking rad

[skinheadice]

I like when Vinnie start's to talk about religion, and how they have their own, then the camera zooms in on Vinnie's jew nose. So, anyway's I'm glad these guy's support the black man so much.

[slipthejab]

hahaha... what moron you are. Go back to your powder puff boyfriend loser.

[skinheadice]

haha-back,don't you have an appoinment to rub pee-pee's with some sweaty wrestling fag in some tight short's? So go on and powder your Jew Jitsu.

[slipthejab]

Sad to see clever isn't working out for you. But keep trying. When you pull your head out and give your mom back her keyboard... maybe you'll have a clue. :D

[bomberZee]

lol pretty good.

[Gibralter9]

You agnostics are fuckin confused! You own fuckin mothers would think your idiots.

[sscrapper]

Fuck this makes me feel old...Roanoke Va. 1984..A.F.Stormed into town.Say..?, what ever happened to Frenchy? Unity tour. Enough said.

[sscrapper]

Sorry,in my foggy brain I said Roanoke..It was Charlotsville,and they played with a band that was fronted by a guy named Beers.

[here2often]

That would've been John Beers of the Landlords.

[doodle310]

Yeah the Landlords,they kicked ass. That was one hell of a show.I got some good pictures of both bands in a box somewhere..and an interview with AF that night.

[finalassassin]

frenchy died a long time ago.

[djnorthface]

this is the greatest video I have ever seen

[Ratt1971]

i love this band,reminds me of human emotion

[ivanrivera22]

hot topic kids wouldn't understand lol

[SidDaKid]

Great video clip via Flipside Video, I have this sitting in my bookshelf... this was actually filmed and released back in 1984. The Exploited also toured with AF when that was shot.

[DefilerhXc]

Im only a few years into the H/C but im starting to understand it better i started off by loving this band and i respect what they are and what they belive. and i agree some of the kids today really dont get it and Say theyr into hardcore for the wrong reasons. just hope i dont fuck up and disgrace what People like Roger stand for.

[redshaftedflicker]

Weenyz.

[telluride117]

fuck i love AF so much

[holspa]

It was cool back then but its still cool now. AGNOSTIC FRONT were not only important to the HC maniacs but also to metal people like me.

[BarryOrder]

"tell me whats it like to be old"

[goisles]

haha, isn't that cock sparrer?

[hairyonion]

Amazing footage, SureShotDC is right on the money, and where as I don't begrudge some kid being inspired by what passes for H/C nowadays (good OR bad) it was much more a way of life than a lifestyle back then.......

[BigPUTZ]

Great show. I am the brother of the nephew's sister of the Guy who walked the dog for Rogers aunt. It was great. He slept over my sisters 3rd grade teachers mother's house for 4 days.

[emmyj911]

Nice ;)

[SureShotDC]

Before Warped Tour, before OzFest, before Hatebreed, before MTV2, before Blink182, before, before Geraldo Rivera introduced the term "skinhead" into the public consciousness, before tattoos became a trend, before the internet an exciting & dangerous hardcore scene was thriving in most American cities. Now, Integrity CD's are a click away and even yuppies and jocks "mosh it up" at shows and get tats. It’s hard to explain to anyone under 35 just how crazy the hardcore scene was back then.

[chrisuede]

holy crap. you hit the nail on the head.

[moonrunrs]

ABSOLUTELY! You had to really love HC to be into the scene in the 1980s. I look at some of these new kids and laugh sometimes.

[jeffchaney]

Great show, I was the guitarist in the opening band The Bully Boys, AF stayed with us for a couple of days while they were in town to play up in S.F, Pomona, and L.A. Great Guys.