I've also had luck repairing loose rings with household cling wrap and sand which baggies. The material is only about .001" thick per layer so if it doesn't feel tight enough for you just double it. It's clear too...so no visible unsightly frayed fabric. My 2 cents on it...
This seems to be a quick fix.. But since the ring is not evenly supported by the leather, it would expose the joint to a greater risk of cracking since it leaves a big area with no support.
I've got much better results with cheesecloth. I've got many antique clarinets that had been repaired using cheesecloth and It lasted for many years without any degradation. I think leather would compress and decompose on the wet and oily environment found under the rings.
@marksp I've also had really good luck repairing loose rings with household cling wrap and sand which baggies. The material is only about .001" thick per layer so if it doesn't feel tight enough for you just double it. It's clear too...so no visible unsightly frayed fabric. My 2 cents on it...
@justinyoungrepair Unless it is a student clarinet I wouldn't repair it with plastic. These wood instruments have a great mystique about how they are made and repaired. Still today shellac is used to secure the pads instead of hot glue, and the pads are mostly made with double blather skin or kid leather. Repairing an expensive clarinet with plastic bags or wraps would only decrease the value of your craftsmanship.
@marksp Not to play devils advocate but...cheesecloth is that much better?
I see all types of materials being utilized today for instrument repair from sheet cork to sheet teflon...from the most high tech/space age adhesives to good old stick shellac. It all comes down to the preference of the repair tech. Mystique or not...the value of craftsmanship (for me) is a balance of customer satisfaction and the experience of a job well done. The rings got fixed, the customer is happy. 'nuff said.
@justinyoungrepair LOL, cheesecloth is pure cotton fiber, it has been used for several decades to do this work.. You can argue that teflon pads are "the best" but this is for purists to decide and that's besides the point. But putting plastic wrap on the tenons seems to be a really bad choice.
Hey that's a neat trick! I use a swedge to re-crimp the rings unto the wood, but this sometimes requires re-polishing of the rings afterward to remove the stress lines imprinted by the swedge. The mouthpiece end of the barrel is particularly sensitive to cracking if the ring does not support the wood evenly around the mouthpiece. But that looks like a great "field" repair technique. Thanks for the idea!
Necessity is the mother of invention, and this is a great one! Thanks for posting. Happy coffee and screwdrivers!
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I've also had luck repairing loose rings with household cling wrap and sand which baggies. The material is only about .001" thick per layer so if it doesn't feel tight enough for you just double it. It's clear too...so no visible unsightly frayed fabric. My 2 cents on it...
justinyoungrepair 1 year ago
This seems to be a quick fix.. But since the ring is not evenly supported by the leather, it would expose the joint to a greater risk of cracking since it leaves a big area with no support.
I've got much better results with cheesecloth. I've got many antique clarinets that had been repaired using cheesecloth and It lasted for many years without any degradation. I think leather would compress and decompose on the wet and oily environment found under the rings.
marksp 2 years ago
@marksp I've also had really good luck repairing loose rings with household cling wrap and sand which baggies. The material is only about .001" thick per layer so if it doesn't feel tight enough for you just double it. It's clear too...so no visible unsightly frayed fabric. My 2 cents on it...
justinyoungrepair 1 year ago
@justinyoungrepair Unless it is a student clarinet I wouldn't repair it with plastic. These wood instruments have a great mystique about how they are made and repaired. Still today shellac is used to secure the pads instead of hot glue, and the pads are mostly made with double blather skin or kid leather. Repairing an expensive clarinet with plastic bags or wraps would only decrease the value of your craftsmanship.
marksp 1 year ago
@marksp Not to play devils advocate but...cheesecloth is that much better?
I see all types of materials being utilized today for instrument repair from sheet cork to sheet teflon...from the most high tech/space age adhesives to good old stick shellac. It all comes down to the preference of the repair tech. Mystique or not...the value of craftsmanship (for me) is a balance of customer satisfaction and the experience of a job well done. The rings got fixed, the customer is happy. 'nuff said.
justinyoungrepair 1 year ago
@justinyoungrepair LOL, cheesecloth is pure cotton fiber, it has been used for several decades to do this work.. You can argue that teflon pads are "the best" but this is for purists to decide and that's besides the point. But putting plastic wrap on the tenons seems to be a really bad choice.
marksp 1 year ago
@marksp I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!
justinyoungrepair 1 year ago
Hey that's a neat trick! I use a swedge to re-crimp the rings unto the wood, but this sometimes requires re-polishing of the rings afterward to remove the stress lines imprinted by the swedge. The mouthpiece end of the barrel is particularly sensitive to cracking if the ring does not support the wood evenly around the mouthpiece. But that looks like a great "field" repair technique. Thanks for the idea!
Birdog225 3 years ago
Glad I can help.
hornfixer 2 years ago