Everyone on the Internet just happens to be an expert in EVERYTHING they watch OOH LA LA.
How about those who dont know sword forging come over here to Kanagawa and serve as an apprentice with me under sensei Takei Hiroshi "Joshin" for 8 years? I hate ignorant people who goes "oh look those two swords are both curved like the ones i see in anime! COPIED!" Mother F*@KER they are made differently stop comparing our Nihonto to the one made in Korea. They are completely different U IGNORANT PIGS.
@masteryun2010 I have already argued these same points with these guys endlessly before I realized I was wasting my time. True martial artists as yourself will use any useful technique or tool that is useful regardless of where it originated from and will adapt it and even add to it-this is martial arts progression. You can not use logic with these guys, they just ignore it and shift the focus somewhere else. I don't know who flagged all your comments as spam-looks pretty cowardly to me.
@pomminsu Thank you for your consideration and advice "pomninsu". Actually, "masteryun2010" is also my ID as a Cultural Specialist of Korean Embassy. I know that there are a lot of keyboard-abusers who want to be looked like intelegent with wrong information. So some times it is necessary to clean them out with correct information and explanation. If not, lots of innocent will be hurted by lacks of right information.
@masteryun I don't think these guys care about "intelligence." They are racists pure and simple and trying to combat their racisim would literally be a full time job. Do a youtube search on Haidong Gumdo and look at all the comments on just about any video-it's crazy. I also believe the truth needs to be put out there, and hopefully there are many more like you and I, but at this point we are outnumbered by these particular racists. 만나서 반갑습니다 .
Further more, 24 martial arts of [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] are not new creations from none. Before [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)], there was [무예신보武藝新譜Muye Sinbo] of 18 martial arts and [무예제보武藝諸譜Muye Jebo] of 6 martial arts. There were more than 200 years of research period to complete [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] with training of Korean soldiers of that time.
When someone try to learn something, he start to accept his weak point and lacks of something. Then he can learn and import the real art.
Foreword of King JeongJo(or Jungjo) in [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] is a painful admission of necessity to improve their man-to-man combat techniques even they were good at archery. But when the book was published, there were alreay a lot of experts of those arts.
When you read a book to use it as a reference, you should finish reading it before mention it. In the same book as you read, [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] that you read some initial pages and in the [무비지武備志MuBiJi](1621) : Chinese Martial Art Manual], there are articles like this. [모원의茅元儀Mo Won-ui : Autor of MuBiJi] said, "Even there were histories of the sword men, but there wasn't sword martial art in China. So I imported the tecniques of sword from Korea for this book(Mu-Bi-Ji)".
This SsangSooDo Form looks very close to the Ssang Soo Gum Bop #12 that we perform in Haidong Gumdo. We also use Yedo, Bonguk, Weigum, Ssang Gum from Moo Ye Do Bo Tong Ji. I also heard many of the forms we use came from a monk (Shim Gumdo) who had a vision of all these sword forms when he achieved enlightment. Anyway, it is interesting to see your form and see how other Korean Martial artists evolved with this method. Thank you.
@XoNMan1 If you look at Muye Dobo Tongji, you can clearly see the dipictions and see the connection with the Ssang Soo Do method there and the Ssang Soo Gum Bup #12 that HDGD does. The sword behind you back, the hiding your sword along your arm at the end, etc.... But most people never point out that the Muye Dobo Tongji only depicts one form from each system, not the entire system as the book would have been huge if it had.
First. I'm proud of my own culture. But if necessary, I can use what ever I want as a instrument. There are no connection between using foreign tools and feeling the proud of my own culture.
I have Korean swords, japanese swords and chinise swords as well.
Second, Why do you think my sword of this form is a samuriai sword ? My sword of this form is a Korean Sword.
@masteryun Unfortunately, almost all Korean swords created in modern era were copy swords strongly infrluenced by Japanese swords. Tradisional Korean curvature swords don't look like Japanese swords. If you are proud of Korean culture, you should first reproduce original shape of Korean sword. The sword in this video is a perfect Japanese sword.
@centraltheorem2076 I want suggest you a book of tuttle press "Muye Dobo Tongji: The Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts of Ancient Korea - Translated by PH.D. Sang H. Kim". The original text was written in 1789 by King Chongjo and his royal scholars & Martial Arts staffs. It clearly shows the influence of neighboring Japanese and Chinese armies. Korean soldiers adapted battlefield skills and tactics from their enemies. This video of mine "SSangSuDo" is one of it's adapted form.
@centraltheorem2076 look up the Muyedobotongji. The korean and Japanese swords during the Joseon Dynasty were virtually identical in style. Even many Chinese blades resembled this same style. I'm not saying who came up with it first just that at one point all three countries had very similar looking weaponry.
@centraltheorem2076 The ssangsudo (2 handed sword, 雙手刀) was used by not only Japan, but also China & Korea. Historical evidence for 雙手刀劍法 (ssangsudo gumbup, 2 handed sword method) can be found in both Chinese sources (Wubeizhi, 武備志, mid 1600's) & Korean (Muyedobotongji, 武藝圖譜通志, 1790).
Korean blades traditionally don't have the bo-hi (the blood-groove) nor do they have the hamon (temper line). The cross section of the blade has a trapezium like shape...
also, for the meguki, the bamboo piece that goes into the tang holes, Korean swords have a single (as opposed to double) but metal piece.
The overall curvature of the blade is very similar.
Everyone on the Internet just happens to be an expert in EVERYTHING they watch OOH LA LA.
How about those who dont know sword forging come over here to Kanagawa and serve as an apprentice with me under sensei Takei Hiroshi "Joshin" for 8 years? I hate ignorant people who goes "oh look those two swords are both curved like the ones i see in anime! COPIED!" Mother F*@KER they are made differently stop comparing our Nihonto to the one made in Korea. They are completely different U IGNORANT PIGS.
johnsclouds 23 hours ago
@masteryun2010 I have already argued these same points with these guys endlessly before I realized I was wasting my time. True martial artists as yourself will use any useful technique or tool that is useful regardless of where it originated from and will adapt it and even add to it-this is martial arts progression. You can not use logic with these guys, they just ignore it and shift the focus somewhere else. I don't know who flagged all your comments as spam-looks pretty cowardly to me.
pomminsu 5 months ago
@pomminsu Thank you for your consideration and advice "pomninsu". Actually, "masteryun2010" is also my ID as a Cultural Specialist of Korean Embassy. I know that there are a lot of keyboard-abusers who want to be looked like intelegent with wrong information. So some times it is necessary to clean them out with correct information and explanation. If not, lots of innocent will be hurted by lacks of right information.
masteryun 5 months ago
@masteryun I don't think these guys care about "intelligence." They are racists pure and simple and trying to combat their racisim would literally be a full time job. Do a youtube search on Haidong Gumdo and look at all the comments on just about any video-it's crazy. I also believe the truth needs to be put out there, and hopefully there are many more like you and I, but at this point we are outnumbered by these particular racists. 만나서 반갑습니다 .
pomminsu 5 months ago
@pomminsu 저도 만나서 반갑습니다. ^_^ Nices to meet you, too.
masteryun2010 5 months ago
Further more, 24 martial arts of [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] are not new creations from none. Before [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)], there was [무예신보武藝新譜Muye Sinbo] of 18 martial arts and [무예제보武藝諸譜Muye Jebo] of 6 martial arts. There were more than 200 years of research period to complete [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] with training of Korean soldiers of that time.
masteryun2010 5 months ago
When someone try to learn something, he start to accept his weak point and lacks of something. Then he can learn and import the real art.
Foreword of King JeongJo(or Jungjo) in [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] is a painful admission of necessity to improve their man-to-man combat techniques even they were good at archery. But when the book was published, there were alreay a lot of experts of those arts.
masteryun2010 5 months ago
茅元儀在《武備志》卷104《器械三》中再次提到 過這部劍譜：“茅子曰：古之言兵者必言劍，今不用於陣，以失其傳也。餘博搜海外，始得之，其式更不可緩矣。劍無今古，即《武經》之二種而圖之。”顯而易 見，在茅元儀看來，包括唐太宗的“劍士千人”在內的我國古代劍技家們，其施於戰鬥的劍法主要是雙手劍法，不是後世那些“只好看，上陣無用”的一般劍法。他 所說的“斷簡殘編中有歌訣”的“歌訣”，應即他與“朝鮮勢法”一起收在《武備志》裡的《劍訣歌》，這是他從唐荊川的《武編》中抄錄來的，也是我國現存最早 的一篇《劍訣》，現在雖不能依訣演練，但有著重要的研究價值。很清楚，茅元儀認為劍法在明代已經失傳。茅元儀的這一認識基本上符合歷史事實
After reading it, what will you say? Can you say that there wasn't sword martial art in china at that time?
masteryun2010 5 months ago
When you read a book to use it as a reference, you should finish reading it before mention it. In the same book as you read, [무예도보통지武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790)] that you read some initial pages and in the [무비지武備志MuBiJi](1621) : Chinese Martial Art Manual], there are articles like this. [모원의茅元儀Mo Won-ui : Autor of MuBiJi] said, "Even there were histories of the sword men, but there wasn't sword martial art in China. So I imported the tecniques of sword from Korea for this book(Mu-Bi-Ji)".
masteryun2010 5 months ago
This SsangSooDo Form looks very close to the Ssang Soo Gum Bop #12 that we perform in Haidong Gumdo. We also use Yedo, Bonguk, Weigum, Ssang Gum from Moo Ye Do Bo Tong Ji. I also heard many of the forms we use came from a monk (Shim Gumdo) who had a vision of all these sword forms when he achieved enlightment. Anyway, it is interesting to see your form and see how other Korean Martial artists evolved with this method. Thank you.
pomminsu 9 months ago
@pomminsu Wow, I didn't even notice the similarities at first but you are right, Ssangsu 12 is very obviously adapated from this form.
XoNMan1 5 months ago
@XoNMan1 If you look at Muye Dobo Tongji, you can clearly see the dipictions and see the connection with the Ssang Soo Do method there and the Ssang Soo Gum Bup #12 that HDGD does. The sword behind you back, the hiding your sword along your arm at the end, etc.... But most people never point out that the Muye Dobo Tongji only depicts one form from each system, not the entire system as the book would have been huge if it had.
pomminsu 5 months ago
@pomminsu A good point - I imagine it would be hard to express an entire combat system within a single form.
XoNMan1 5 months ago
Is this the Ssang Su Do of the Muye Dobo Tongji?
GreyChampion 1 year ago
@GreyChampion Yes, SSanSuDo is one of 24 martial arts in MuYeDoBoTongJi.
masteryun 10 months ago
Why does he use Japanese samurai sword? Is he proud of his own culture? If he is, he should not use samurai sword.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076
First. I'm proud of my own culture. But if necessary, I can use what ever I want as a instrument. There are no connection between using foreign tools and feeling the proud of my own culture.
I have Korean swords, japanese swords and chinise swords as well.
Second, Why do you think my sword of this form is a samuriai sword ? My sword of this form is a Korean Sword.
masteryun 1 year ago 5
@masteryun Unfortunately, almost all Korean swords created in modern era were copy swords strongly infrluenced by Japanese swords. Tradisional Korean curvature swords don't look like Japanese swords. If you are proud of Korean culture, you should first reproduce original shape of Korean sword. The sword in this video is a perfect Japanese sword.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076 I want suggest you a book of tuttle press "Muye Dobo Tongji: The Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts of Ancient Korea - Translated by PH.D. Sang H. Kim". The original text was written in 1789 by King Chongjo and his royal scholars & Martial Arts staffs. It clearly shows the influence of neighboring Japanese and Chinese armies. Korean soldiers adapted battlefield skills and tactics from their enemies. This video of mine "SSangSuDo" is one of it's adapted form.
masteryun 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076 look up the Muyedobotongji. The korean and Japanese swords during the Joseon Dynasty were virtually identical in style. Even many Chinese blades resembled this same style. I'm not saying who came up with it first just that at one point all three countries had very similar looking weaponry.
Seankwondo87 11 months ago
@centraltheorem2076 The ssangsudo (2 handed sword, 雙手刀) was used by not only Japan, but also China & Korea. Historical evidence for 雙手刀劍法 (ssangsudo gumbup, 2 handed sword method) can be found in both Chinese sources (Wubeizhi, 武備志, mid 1600's) & Korean (Muyedobotongji, 武藝圖譜通志, 1790).
tomurso 1 year ago
Great form :) I liked it very much
lecem 1 year ago
very very nice. respect. :)
atlanticdriveishere 1 year ago
IDK he is maybe doing an Kata, I haven't practised Korean sword arts, only Hapkido (Sin Moo)
IRockUrRockNRoll 2 years ago
He is my Master wow korean sowrd is the best
musatyger 2 years ago
검 하나 어디갔어
siwon333 3 years ago
시원삼삼삼아. 쌍수도는 두손으로 쓰는 장검을 말하는 거란다. 두개의 검을 사용하는 검법은 쌍검이라고 한단다. 알겠니?
masteryun 2 years ago
아 그렇구나 알려줘서 고마워 마스터윤아
siwon333 2 years ago
good foot work great style
love2lovedarling 3 years ago
i have never seen a Korean sword upclose, do you have one?
KOGR11 4 years ago
Yes, I have two korean swords of my own.
masteryun 4 years ago
what is the difference between the japanese blades and the korean blades? im also curious to see one
crouchingtgr2 3 years ago
Korean blades traditionally don't have the bo-hi (the blood-groove) nor do they have the hamon (temper line). The cross section of the blade has a trapezium like shape...
also, for the meguki, the bamboo piece that goes into the tang holes, Korean swords have a single (as opposed to double) but metal piece.
The overall curvature of the blade is very similar.
youngbyun 3 years ago