P Mauriat 76 vrs 86, vrs conn 10 M R Manins Comparison.mov

[coltranesaxIV]

Is there extra care you need to take with unlacquered instruments? If so what do you need to?

[rogermanins]

The 66 is the most free blowing , biggest but 76 a little more focused and direct, and both are great. The 76UL seems a little closer to the 66 than the 76lacquer-- you really need to try them. I don't really notice a lot of difference re free blowing. The 76 one piece sop is a real bitch- a great horn. Check out my you tube site - there are plenty of comarisons. My pfeference is the 86 sop-- but so so so so close

[coltranesaxIV]

Is that 76 mauriat free blowing? How about the altissimo, is that good. I'm to get as much info as possible because I am really considerong buying that 76 tenor and that one piece soprano. Reply if you can. Thanks

[rogermanins]

Well Jodi sounds close-- but you need to blow a few i guess!

[coltranesaxIV]

Is the Jody Jazz piece very flexible. Im looking for a bright tone like Coltrane's along with that openess and the Jody Jazz sounds almost like it. Do you know what I mean? I hope I'm not going crazy! Lol

[rogermanins]

The jodi jazz piece is easier to blow than the equivalent in an otto link. I think they are really good pieces, but now I am alternating between an old selmer ( opened to 115) and my old otto link ( which is just under a 10 (127), and honestly I would prefer it if the link was a little more closed

I use the link with all the latest videos ( 101 challenger etc)

roger

[coltranesaxIV]

@ rogermanins

Is your mouthpiece-reed setup hard to blow or is that Jody Jazz piece as free blowing as it is claimed to be?

[gcrav]

The 86 gets the richest sound with this setup. I've been finding that tip openings around .100 -.110 with a big chamber, low baffle, and hard reed coax the richest sound from a vintage 10M.

[rogermanins]

Thanks for your comments. Good comments too. All horns were equal distance from the mic. This was done on my lap top with the built in mic. I think you are on to it re the conn vrs 86 comments. You cannot discount the beautiful sweetness of the conn up higher, but the 86 has a fatness all over

[IsDaBlues]

2nd runner up - M76: Not the fattest sound but sounded fine throughout all registers. It was balanced. It's similar sounding to the 10M in the lower register, particularly below G.

1st Runner Up - Conn 10M: Not the fattest & sort of "vin ordinaire" below G (as with the 76), but it's sweet above higher F, particularly with altissimo notes.

Winner - M86: Wow, this had a thick, balanced tone throughout. (Did you record closer to the mic.) Almost as good as the 10m high up.

(I play a '49 10M)

[saxophonedave]

10M, Hands down for my taste.! Great playing by the way.

[knightyaccha]

I liked the CONN 10M the best. Second was the 86 then last was the 76. You sound great on ALL of them and I don't know HOW you can play a 10* with a 4 reed...You must be a gorilla! But it sounds great...

[rogermanins]

honestly the P M horns have been a real painfull change-- i endorsed them, and have been challenged in all ways in relation to sound, and the old conn. I did many albums on it-- and yes it has a real lyrical beauty about it, but the depth of sound is not as selmer or the 76, 86-- this does not bother most, but I have been listening to the greats in closer detail to the core of sound, and want that in my playing-- hence my quest --

[rogermanins]

Thanks for your comments-- I am steering in the 86 direction-- the Conn is lyrical- i know what you mean-- the 86 has more depth and richness-- dark power-- sim to 76 but 76 is more focused or defined- "tight".

[saxman66]

My personal observations for whatever it's worth....

You sound incredible on ALL these horns, and i absolutely love these videos! Truly informative sir!

Conn 10M - most "lyrical" sounding horn with beautiful upper register fullness.

PM 86 - "fattest" sounding, but not quite as lyrical....sometimes the notes tend to break up, and lose focus, thus not as "sweet" of a sound. Lots of Balls though!

PM 76 - "throaty" and nicely balanced in all registers, also very lyrical sounding. Hard 2 choose!

[rnordling]

Hi Roger,

I think you sound great on the PM 86UL here. Ofcourse all of them sounds good but the 86UL to me just has this raw power and a deep sound.