Its scary, when it becomes a taboo to question possibly the most terrific act against US history, the forefathers had built the constitution upon truth, and solid grounds.
They knew that there will be a time where martial law could become a reality, thats why they did all in their power to reduce the powers of the authorities, and give all rights to citizens. However, introducing new bills that goes against the constitution by using fear can not be stopped unless the people act....
Yeah it's also insane to think that the government knowingly sent a ship with 1900 passengers aboard into incredibly hostile German waters so that it would be destroyed, killing 1200 of the passengers, thus giving us an excuse to enter World War I. LOL OH WAIT THAT DID HAPPEN TO THE LUSITANIA.
I believed that if planes hit the towers, over an hour later the buildings could suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity, that was when I was born yesterday ;-P
@Sharky2055 There is actually a lot of evidence that it was an inside job. And whenever said questions are asked to politicians, they are ignored. These people in this video are obviously off their ass and doing something productive, unlike you. All you have done thus far is make an incredibly inaccurate claim, and I'm assuming you did so while sitting on your ass.
@F4k3F1ND3R There's actually zero evidence that it was an inside job- there is speculation, conjecture, and conclusions based upon inaccurate or insane presumptions. Those questions are ignored because only truly ignorant people would bother to ask them, ask a politician if Big Foot is a Democrat- you'll be ignored on that one too. How about you stop being a zealot for stupidity and spreading your snarky insults around Youtube, which of course you're doing while sitting on your dumb ass.
@unclearimage If you truly believe that the US government would never stage an attack on its citizens in order to make an enemy out of another country, you need to take US History again.
A prominent engineer w/ 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects, member of the California Seismic Safety Commission & former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition
Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider & Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition
also if the building was weak due to fire how do you explain the collapse in 10 seconds, the pancake effect would take alot longer, these building were full of explosives, do your homework, science and physics dont lie!!!!! but the government does!!!!
the wtc's were designed to withstand plane crashes becuase of their height,the way both towers fell were that of a demolition,the towers base beams that hold up the towers were cut diagonaly same as it would b in a demolition, the planes crashed like 100 floors up or higher right? than how was there debris at the bottom entrances of the towers and why was there smoke coming from underground? wake up the government did this they set bombs in there they killed thousands of people wake the fuck up!
Youngman killswitch, the twc was designed to withstand the hit of a 707. the biggest plane of the time. These were 757s fully loaded of fuel. The trusses that held up floors had fire insulation blown off thus exposing them to intence heat. Once one floor collaped it pushed down the next ect. Steel only needs to be heated to bend, once it bent under extreme weight it was all over. I heat and make things out of steel and its wrong for people with no expeirence to proclaim thermite was used.
Hundreds of cars with their gas tanks MOSTLY full because most people fill up on the weekend or payday ,Huge amount of jet fuel. And many other possible flamable items all crushed down in the same area. Sure its gonna burn and its soaked in the rubble like a huge wick. Angry republican haters use this terrible day as an outlet to ruin well meaning repubs. This is a sin of its own. God bless all of you !
For a fire burn it also needs oxygen. Buried underneath all that rubble the oxygen would have been consumed quickly. To keep it going for that long at that temperature it would need a continuous supply. A huge pile of rubble would have suffocated it. Anyway no other steel structure has collapsed due to fire. If you know of one please send me the link. WTC7 was not hit by a plane and had small fires, why did it collapse.
Yes, the official report has alot more evidence backing it than any conspiracy theory I have heard of to date. I don't think I'm superior to you either, I just stated that my age really has nothing to do with my theory, and that at my age I am perfectly capable of comprehending was I see and drawing conclusions using it. I'm not close minded (Maybe a little), it's just that I don't have any reason to believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy.
Nice Ad Hominem. You have anything to add that would relate to the subject at hand, or will you continue to discredit me unjustly? Hey, for all we know, you're the same age as I am, it's not hard to lie on YouTube.
As George Carlin said, the people in charge will never investigate themselves. People can keep trying to get the truth out and God bless them for it, but I can't see anything changing. That and the general public is too lazy and dependant on mainstream media to even give a shit. I'm moving.
You are too lazy , stupid or don't want to know the truth. Do some research douche bag. Building seven you stupid motherfucker. Where's the wreckage from the Pentagon and Shansville. I've been in aviation a long time and never have seen no wreckage at a crash. NEVER!!
No wreckage? There was wreckage all over that damn place. Why would we want to run planes full of our citizens into our own buildings anyway? Honestly, Al-Queda had claimed responsibility for the attacks, but that's just not thrilling enough is it? Come on, show me ONE peice of evidence that our government, run by our own citizens, woke up one morning and decided to crash planes into tall buildings.
"There was no possibility any plane crashed into the WTC & I base that on the fact that...there should've been at least 300 miles of wiring....any foot, any 6 inch length of 300 miles of wiring, & there should've been any one of 4 four-ton engines found...the engine found on Murray St. could not possibly been a CF6 or a Pratt & Whitney 4000 series..no airplanes crashed." ---John Lear, retired pilot of over 100 diff. types of airplanes, on RabbitHoleCentral, Aug '08
The structural engineer responsible for the design of the WTC described fires still burning and molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks
The head of a team of scientists studying the health effects of 9/11 reported "Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel"
As late as February 2002, firefighter Joe O'Toole saw a steel beam being lifted from deep underground "was dripping from the molten steel
In this historical publication in a peer-reviewed Civil Engineering Journal the authors set a foundation for productive discussion and understanding by focusing on those areas where common ground is found with FEMA & NIST, while at the same time countering several popular myths about the WTC collapses.
'Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction': bentham-open . org / pages / gen . php ? file = 35TOCIEJ . pdf
NIST admits "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse", even though no modern steel-frame building has ever before or since totally collapsed due to fire, even with much hotter and longer-burning fires
FEMA admits its best hypothesis for why WTC 7 collapsed has only "a low probability of occurring"
Three towers fell, not just two. If you didn't know that, empirical evidence verifies some other group, in addition to cia-created alqueda, contributed to the demolitions.
The 9/11 Commission admits the U.S. military intentionally lied about what happened that day, the Commission reached conclusions based on political considerations, and that its conclusions were largely based on third-hand information conveyed through military spokespeople about what severley tortured, crazy people supposedly said.
A former National Security Adviser told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative".
You must be the change you want to see in this world.
bush, cheney & all other key officials refused to testify under oath, & bush and cheney would not even speak to the 9/11 Commission unless they did together.
How is it reassuring when the professional whitewashers tasked w/ defending the government's version of what happened on 9/11 themselves aren't willing to swear to that version?
Actions speak louder than Words, though both reveal the False Flag / Inside Job / PsyOp known as 9/11.
Learn your history, learn your physics, learn the Truth!
A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council Marx Ayres believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition.
A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, Dr. David L. Griscom said the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.
A US physics professor who teaches at several universities Dr. Crockett Grabbe believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition.
A world-renowned scientist, Lynn Margulis, Ph.D, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement, said "I suggest that those of us aware & concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."
Military leaders, legal scholars, senators, presidents, even the 9/11 Commissioners themselves, have also all questioned the govt.'s theory of events.
David Scott, Structural Engineer, of Scotland, argues: "Near-freefall collapse violates laws of physics. Fire induced collapse is not consistent with observed collapse mode ..."
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England, points out: "WTC7 Building could not have collapsed as a result of internal fire and external debris. NO plane hit this building. This is the only case of a steel frame building collapsing through fire in the world. The fire were small & localized ..."
Jesus Christ I can't believe how many fucking idiots there are in the world. The fact that the truthers cover up everything that the anchorman says proves that they're just doing the equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and going "lalalalala" like a gaggle of 6 year olds.
Former Governor Jesse Ventura: WTC Collapse A Controlled Demolition. The Navy veteran and movie star savages official story, says media covering up truth about attacks. Governor Ventura vehemently savaged the official 9/11 story, saying the WTC collapsed like a controlled demolition and was pulverized to dust as he also highlighted the impossible 10 second free fall speed of the towers. "To me questions haven't been answered and are not being answered about 9/11," said Ventura.
Physical laws -- the kinds of laws Isaac Newton discovered and which govern our universe --were violated on 9/11: The law of falling objects following the paths of least resistance; the law of conservation of momentum; the law of conservation of angular momentum. According to conservation-of-momentum laws, the block of approximately 34 floors on top of the South Tower should have continued to topple and fall through the path of least resistance: the air. It should have continued to topple ...
... and fall to the ground far outside the building's footprint and NOT through the path of most resistance: the building itself. That same block which can be seen twisting at the start of the collapse should have kept twisting and obeyed the law of conservation of angular momentum but the rotation suddenly stopped. The stopping of both its rotation and its "toppling" can only be explained by the breakup of most of the block, which would have destroyed its moment of inertia.
But there is no good explanation for the upper block of the towers to break up at the start of the collapse; unless of course, it was being broken up in a purposeful way as in a controlled demolition. This violation of physical laws alone virtually proves that the Official Story is a lie.
There were many people including firemen who reported that molten metal was seen below all three (one not hit by an airplane) buildings that collapsed on 9/11. And there is a LOT of corroborating evidence in support of there being molten metal below the rubble such as extremely high temperatures recorded on NASA thermal maps and pictures of extremely hot orange/white hot steel. Only one thing could account for "flowing" molten metal: thermite.
Evidence of thermite at ground zero was found. There would be no reason for the existence of thermite at the sites other than it being the reason for the molten metal.
The molten metal underneath the three buildings demolished on 9/11 were reported by firemen and others as "flowing like lava" for many weeks, then for the Official Story to be true there must be a scientific explanation. Since there is no such scientific explanation, that alone virtually proves the Official Story to be a lie.
The fact that both Twin Towers collapsed in symmetrically identical fashion even though the South Tower was hit very significantly off-center means something other than straight forward gravitational collapses were at work. The fact that the top section of EACH Twin Tower was able to plow its way symmetrically through the ENTIRE 80-90 stories below about as quickly as if it had fallen through thin air is alone enough to virtually prove the Official Story to be a lie.
"The fact that both Twin Towers collapsed in symmetrically identical fashion even though the South Tower was hit very significantly off-center means something other than straight forward gravitational collapses were at work."
False. This wasn't a tree being chopped down. If a horse fell on your arm, would it slide off your arm and fall over to the side?
Answer the question? Would the horse slide off your arm or not?
See, the difference is you actually think the collapses should have happened in the same manner a tree would collapse. I'm just using the horse example as an analogy to explain why tons of force can overcome resistance without slowing much.
"I do? well thank you for doing my thinking for me as ive said nothing of the sort."
Excellent! So you DON'T think the collapses should have imitated the way a tree falls. Welcome to our side. You're going to have a lot of crazy twoofers here arguing with you, though.
Actually I just thought your argument was way too simplistic and absurd. And thanks yet again to make another assumption here, but I dont care either way because this argument is moot to me. Im not a "twoofer" like you childishly call it nor do i worship the govts account as you seem to do. I actually ahve a brain of my own, thank you anyways
Because youre comparing a huge steel reinforced building falling to a horse falling on someone, do i really need to say more? "Translation: "I'd better sidestep this tree thing before I make myself look stupid." more?" I didnt make the argument to begin with genius, i just thought your explanation was too simplistic.
"Because youre comparing a huge steel reinforced building falling to a horse falling on someone, do i really need to say more?"
Nope, that's enough to tell me you don't know what an analogy is.
Twoofers think that the falling tower could not have A) fallen through the path of most resistance, and B) continued picking up speed. If a horse fell through 80 outstretched arms, it would do just that. So in twoofer land, if a horse falls on your arm, it should come to a stop.
my point is that your analogy is ABSURD....again, youre comparing a freaking HORSE landing on ARMS to one of the biggest buildings in the WORLD lmao. I'm not even arguing your point, its your ridiculous analogy
to be honest, i dont know why people would argue if the building would go straight down on towers 1 and 2, its building 7 that doesnt make sense to me.
huge damage to one side, and yet it fell straight down. There are several examples of steel buildings toppling over when damaged to one side actually. It only makes sense really, but yet it went straight down at near freefall speed
lol, OK, now i know youre lying to me. Ive had enough, by the way, i suggest that you use different named accounts other than "thedman" because youre the 3rd person with that name with different numbers ive seen in the past couple of weeks
Given that the Official Story requires that a 125 foot wide 757 made only a 16 to 20 foot wide hole when it hit the Pentagon; and given that NIST claims that the airplanes that hit the Twin Towers severed massive interior steel columns after severing the perimeter steel columns; yet the wings, tail section, and massive engines were not able to penetrate the reinforced concrete walls of the Pentagon, something doesn't add up. Therefore, this alone virtually proves the Official Story to be a lie.
Given the fact that there was not much airplane debris found at the Pentagon and the best explanation the Official Story can come up with is that most of the large 757 airliner vaporized; yet the Official Story claims they were able to identify each and every passenger and crew member through UNvaporized DNA -- NONE with an Arab sounding name; then this alone virtually proves the Official Story to be a lie.
In the past 2 months, the Italian President - the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio -(false flag attacks in Europe) Francesco Cossiga, questioned the official story of 9/11 in Italy's largest newspaper, Corriere della Sera; as did Japanese Senator, Yukihisa Fujita, on National Japanese television in front of Japan's Prime Minister; & a conference organized by a European Minister of Parliament held at the European Parliament aired a new documentary 'Zero' on the 9/11 questions.
Hey asshole were you there...I left 1 month before this shit happened. I lost three good friends. to date there has never been a federal investigation although there have been civilian investigations and there is overwhelming evidence that says they were killed a in demolition. Not a 9/11 commission topic, they never even mentioned bulding 7. Do yourself a favor pull your head out and get into reality. If you can't move to Russia where noone has any rights.
We have come to an irrefutable fact; WTC 7 was overthrown by a controlled implosion. The building disappeared in a free fall, in only 6.5 seconds. The only problem is that an honest answer opens a whole lot of new, equally honest, very serious and extremely worrying questions. Questions that deserve a new, this time truly independent inquest of events that occurred on Sept. 11, an inquest that will reveal the actual perpetrators of the greatest crime of modern history.
fema is obviously bullshit, don;t even bring that up. nist is shite as well, how many times are they going to change their story? just cause its a government agency doesn't mean its automatically an authority. no mention of molten metal, no mention of explosions, no explanation fot wtc 7 collapse. the only reason that the official story has any credence is that you become a pariah is you go against it
THE F*%king Anchor is jus cover up for the Faget govenment not wanted for thoese ppl to show wats F*%king Real. FOR THE NEWS PPL STOP SUCKING GOVERNMENT BALLS AND STOP HIDING TRUTH. BETTER YET.. ARE THEY GONNA HELP YOU WHEN U DIE? NO DO GO STICK A LAW PEEPEE UP UR BUTT
"If you know so much about the NIST report yourself, name what they use in their reports. If it isn't Pancake Theory, then tell me what it is."
I'd be glad to! NIST says the collapse happened due to a combination of structural damage from the plane impacts, dislodged fireproofing at the impact zones, and the ensuing fire.
See, in order for you to argue that a report is false, it would probably be a good idea to actually READ it first, so you know what you're arguing against.
"No, my point is, NIST used to believe the Pancake Theory"
Then you are once again wrong. NIST never, ever said it was a pancake collapse. FEMA said that was the most likely scenario, but had not conducted a 3 year investigation like NIST. Once NIST came out with their report, they corrected them to say it wasn't a pancake, just a progressive collapse.
do you realie NIST have actually now admitted that they don't know what caused the WTC 1 and 2, not just building 7, to collapse? kinda makes you wonder why they pretended it was a closed case for so long.
"why don't you post a link with factual photos of it collapsed because of the fire"
Ok, done:
tinyurl dot com/2xhq42
Scroll down to page 78. The Concrete Alliance uses the Windsor Building as an example of why concrete is better than steel in fires. Time for you to back down now.
"You said that and yet you say the towers fell because of the plane hit, or at least events that are tangible to the crash, in essence saying they didn't survive it."
No, that's not what I said. They survived the plane crashes, they just didn't survive the combination of structural damage, dislodged fireproofing, and ensuing fires.
"No, not "Volcanic" tuff. I still don't know where the hell you keep getting this Volcanic bullshit at."
Pyroclastic clouds are from volcanoes. You responded to my debate with UnwiseManuel that was about pyroclastic clouds. The fact that you don't know what those are doesn't shock me.
The video says "...Would completely revise previous theories..."
watch?v=-RzwmD8uB8g"
So let me get this straight - you're trying to prove to me that NIST claims there was a pancake collapse by linking me to a video where NIST proves there WASN'T a pancake collapse. LOL! You're a brilliant man.
"The steel was still standing. Taking the logic from your post, apparently concrete stands on its own? Was it floating there?"
You're clearly illustrating your ignorance on the subject. The Windsor Building had concrete columns on the lower half of the building. The upper half was steel columns. Those collapsed, the concrete ones didn't.
Feel free to post again and continue showing your stupidity.
"Explain how so many people have heard of the NIST reports saying Pancake Collapse when it wasn't true?:"
If you think NIST claims a pancake collapse, please copy and paste where they say that. Here's their report:
wtc . nist . gov/pubs/
This is the part where you tell me to "find it yourself", "Do your own research", "I don't post links", or any one of the other standard twoofer ways of weaseling out of backing up their false claims.
Extensive evidence can be found on the following sites supported by hundreds of experts and eye-witnesses. Check it out for yourself. Don't let truth deniers distract you, investigate it for yourself.
All I can say is that when 911 happened I wasn't surprised. I also have stayed away from political crap pretty much throughout my life because I don't personally need government or laws. But later during Bush first term I at least realized that I could have voted against him. But then the elections were rigged anyway. Later now so, I understand the misleading that happens. It is a sad course that must be resisted. Resistance is the key, many turn from anger by nature.
Poor news anchor. Trying to do his job and a bunch of gullible morons interfere with it. He should have done more than bump chests. It wasn't assault but he should have made it one. Knock some sense into an idiot.
scottyblack... so easy to sit there playing with your foreskin and talking out of your arse isn't it? The gullible moron is quite clearly you, you keep tossing off to fox news, and post it on you tube so we can all have a laugh.
The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation. It was shaped by the agency to serve as a substitute "enemy" for America, replacing the Soviets whom the Islamist forces had driven from Afghanistan. Unknown American officials, at an indeterminate point in time, made the decision to fabricate the tale of a mythical worldwide network of Islamic terrorists from the exploits of the Afghan Mujahedeen.
Concerning the collapse of WTC 7, warnings of the building's collapse have come to play an important role. In addition to the numerous collapse warnings mentioned in written documents, we have seen a growing number of videotape fragments and interviews in which people appear to have been told in advance of WTC 7's collapse. Many proponents of the controlled demolition hypothesis take these cases, both written and video, as evidence that the building's collapse was brought about deliberately.
if the OCT were true they would not have hauled off all the steel and sent it to be melted. They would not have blocked investigation for over a year and there would not be a media blackout on the subject. They would not be afraid to debate the subject on live TV. Norad would not have told 3 different contradictory stories about what they did that day. They are lying and it is obvious. Lying about mass murder.
236 pieces were saved by NIST for study. Other pieces have been saved in a hangar at JFK to be made into a memorial onces something gets built at the site. Imagine how stupid you twoofers will look when you say "All the steel was shipped off to be melted!" while standing next to a huge beam from the towers.
Funny how independant investigators are not allowed to examine the steel or take samples for testing due to "national security". BTW what national security interests are threatened by scientists examining the steel? Tell me why that would threaten national security?
Anyone heard of the Turing Test? These machines are getting more convincing, note the short answers, normally quoting and then repeating some of the quote in a reply. Classic A.I. bullshit. You're talking to a machine, not a person, designed to waste your valuable time and get you to take your eye off the ball. Don't feed the machine, then maybe it wil go back to playing chess.
if there was thermate involved i doubt they saved any pieces that could be swabed for it.Furthermore, if how they handle this evidence is indicator, no third party will have the priveledge to find out.
"if there was thermate involved i doubt they saved any pieces that could be swabed for it."
Swabed for it? They saved 236 pieces needed for their investigation. There's just as much evidence for thermate as there is evidence that leprechauns did it.
"no third party will have the priveledge to find out."
Yeah, criminal investigation evidence usually isn't available to the public.
More independent, peer-reviewed, technical articles about the demolitions on 9/11: "Revisiting 9/11/2001 -- Applying the Scientific Method", "Can Physics Rewrite History?", "Another reason the 9/11 fire-mediated collapse theory is wrong", "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?", "Proof That The Thermal and Gravitational Energy Available Were Insufficient to Melt Steel in the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center on 9/11/01" AE911Truth . org/techarts . php
Extensive evidence can be found on the following sites supported by hundreds of experts and eye-witnesses. Check it out for yourself. Don't let truth deniers distract you, investigate it for yourself.
Independent, peer-reviewed, technical articles about the demolitions on 9/11: "Momentum Transfer Analysis of the Collapse of the Upper Stories of WTC 1", "Direct Evidence for Explosions: Flying Projectiles and Widespread Impact Damage", "Lies about the WTC by NIST and Underwriters Laboratories", "Physical Chemistry of Thermite, Thermate, Iron-Alum-Rich Microspheres at Demise of WTC 1 & 2" - AE911Truth . org/techarts . php
the amount of money the US government must be paying in wages for disinformation from people like thedman113, well keeps them off the streets I imagine.
yeah, Ive got a few names I could add to the list....thedman113 actually sounds to be a knowledgeable idiot...or at least he can google facts to argue with.But some of the other posts on the other vids, sound earily paid for.
gotta get rid of all that fed reserve currency they print day and night , were in a lotta trouble , anyone heard of what buildings do ,they resist gravity. on 9/11 , 3 did not, no symmetrical collapse on 1 or 2, like twisting,and breaking from weak point, and not falling at free fall speed, especially bldg 7 it was like some acme black hole appeared under it , unresistant to gravity why? no support why? demolition!=Thermate=,aerosolized particle dust,=Iron micro spheres,= 2000F 5 weeks later!!
There was also warning that building 7, which was not even hit by a plane, was going to collapse. Indeed, people "waited around" for the building to collapse. Right before WTC7 came down, a NYPD police officer said clear away, the whole building is "about to blow up"A firefighter stated "They moved us back south. We ended up back up on Vesey Street and West Street and just hanging out until tower 7 came down. After tower 7 came down, we went right to work over at tower 7 to put the fires out".
"There was also warning that building 7, which was not even hit by a plane, was going to collapse. Indeed, people "waited around" for the building to collapse."
No engineer in the country, including the designers of the world trade centers, thought they would collapse. Indeed, "experts said no building like it, a modern, steel-reinforced high-rise, had ever collapsed because of an uncontrolled fire" and the twin towers were designed to survive multiple airplane strikes. Indeed, the towers were designed five times stronger than needed to support the structure.
I guess in the life time of a mayfly that qualifies as surviving... 3000 dead people ... officially the towers collapsed because of the fire caused by the airplane fuel. Did the architects think that a plane could crash into the building without any fuel on board? They just forgot to factor that in I suppose. Either the towers fell down because the planes crashed into them, or there was another reason. What do you think?
so if the the airplane fuel didn't start a fire, and the towers did not collapse because of the fires that weren't started by the airplane fuel, then what did start the fire, and why did they collapse. Maybe you could digest the NIST report you have clearly read so carefully?
oh... and here is the shit that you posted... you can't back up a thing you say, you claim to have read this report or that report, when challenged I am stupid, and all the reports you have read can go to heck... what a wanker
lmao that bitch deserves to get hit in the face
CHEVYdriver89 8 months ago
I would have punch that guy in red so hard in his dumb face.
WizzMasterZero 10 months ago
Its scary, when it becomes a taboo to question possibly the most terrific act against US history, the forefathers had built the constitution upon truth, and solid grounds.
They knew that there will be a time where martial law could become a reality, thats why they did all in their power to reduce the powers of the authorities, and give all rights to citizens. However, introducing new bills that goes against the constitution by using fear can not be stopped unless the people act....
VirtuosoX1 1 year ago
I can't believe that people think the government orchestrate 9/11. It's just insane and unthinkable.
Vahtacen 1 year ago
@Vahtacen how much did pay pay you to say that?
xParaPinkx 1 year ago
@xParaPinkx I'm sorry, but perhaps I'd understand the question if it made sense.
Vahtacen 1 year ago
Yeah it's also insane to think that the government knowingly sent a ship with 1900 passengers aboard into incredibly hostile German waters so that it would be destroyed, killing 1200 of the passengers, thus giving us an excuse to enter World War I. LOL OH WAIT THAT DID HAPPEN TO THE LUSITANIA.
F4k3F1ND3R 1 year ago
I believed that if planes hit the towers, over an hour later the buildings could suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity, that was when I was born yesterday ;-P
JZJYRWO 1 year ago
Inside job?? HA HA HA HA HA!! You fuckin retarded losers!
mweber45 1 year ago
@mweber45 you just let everyone know what a complete fool you are, jokes on you haha.
timeruin 1 year ago
Why don't you truthers get off your ass and raise money to do your own investigation? There's NO evidence of an inside job, you losers!
Sharky2055 1 year ago
@Sharky2055 oh please, all the evidence is in plain sight you blind idiot.
timeruin 1 year ago
@timeruin really? I don't think so.
Vahtacen 1 year ago
@Sharky2055 There is actually a lot of evidence that it was an inside job. And whenever said questions are asked to politicians, they are ignored. These people in this video are obviously off their ass and doing something productive, unlike you. All you have done thus far is make an incredibly inaccurate claim, and I'm assuming you did so while sitting on your ass.
F4k3F1ND3R 1 year ago
@F4k3F1ND3R There's actually zero evidence that it was an inside job- there is speculation, conjecture, and conclusions based upon inaccurate or insane presumptions. Those questions are ignored because only truly ignorant people would bother to ask them, ask a politician if Big Foot is a Democrat- you'll be ignored on that one too. How about you stop being a zealot for stupidity and spreading your snarky insults around Youtube, which of course you're doing while sitting on your dumb ass.
unclearimage 9 months ago
@unclearimage the fact that you say there was Zero evidence shows your ignorance.
lucas911611 8 months ago
@unclearimage If you truly believe that the US government would never stage an attack on its citizens in order to make an enemy out of another country, you need to take US History again.
F4k3F1ND3R 7 months ago
Youtube: Neils Harrit
ramptondayrelease 2 years ago
I would have murdered that news reporter if he hit me like that.
derrickjenkins 2 years ago
A prominent engineer w/ 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects, member of the California Seismic Safety Commission & former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition
Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider & Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition
HRHHeather17 2 years ago
also if the building was weak due to fire how do you explain the collapse in 10 seconds, the pancake effect would take alot longer, these building were full of explosives, do your homework, science and physics dont lie!!!!! but the government does!!!!
myeristef 2 years ago 4
theres such a sick jump around there on gta 4.if you have a motorcycle and go fast its good..
erikthecoolkid 2 years ago 3
ROFL
noskool319 2 years ago
An old fireman saying is never trust a truss blg. fire. And only one jet hit near the top , the other just above half way up.
mdog2700 3 years ago
So your sayin al gore did this, makes sence to me.
mdog2700 3 years ago
It's sense, "dog"
Kunfusionz 3 years ago
Yes it iz - Kun.
mdog2700 3 years ago
Yea so it iz - and i aint in school no more. So dear teach do get a B+ OR AN A- ..
mdog2700 3 years ago
the wtc's were designed to withstand plane crashes becuase of their height,the way both towers fell were that of a demolition,the towers base beams that hold up the towers were cut diagonaly same as it would b in a demolition, the planes crashed like 100 floors up or higher right? than how was there debris at the bottom entrances of the towers and why was there smoke coming from underground? wake up the government did this they set bombs in there they killed thousands of people wake the fuck up!
KillSwitchEngage0101 3 years ago
Youngman killswitch, the twc was designed to withstand the hit of a 707. the biggest plane of the time. These were 757s fully loaded of fuel. The trusses that held up floors had fire insulation blown off thus exposing them to intence heat. Once one floor collaped it pushed down the next ect. Steel only needs to be heated to bend, once it bent under extreme weight it was all over. I heat and make things out of steel and its wrong for people with no expeirence to proclaim thermite was used.
mdog2700 3 years ago
How do you explain that fires were still burning underneath ground zero for at least 2 months and firemen report seeing molten metal down there?
drgnfly1007 2 years ago
Hundreds of cars with their gas tanks MOSTLY full because most people fill up on the weekend or payday ,Huge amount of jet fuel. And many other possible flamable items all crushed down in the same area. Sure its gonna burn and its soaked in the rubble like a huge wick. Angry republican haters use this terrible day as an outlet to ruin well meaning repubs. This is a sin of its own. God bless all of you !
mdog2700 2 years ago
For a fire burn it also needs oxygen. Buried underneath all that rubble the oxygen would have been consumed quickly. To keep it going for that long at that temperature it would need a continuous supply. A huge pile of rubble would have suffocated it. Anyway no other steel structure has collapsed due to fire. If you know of one please send me the link. WTC7 was not hit by a plane and had small fires, why did it collapse.
drgnfly1007 2 years ago
Yes, the official report has alot more evidence backing it than any conspiracy theory I have heard of to date. I don't think I'm superior to you either, I just stated that my age really has nothing to do with my theory, and that at my age I am perfectly capable of comprehending was I see and drawing conclusions using it. I'm not close minded (Maybe a little), it's just that I don't have any reason to believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy.
watchfulstorm 3 years ago
Nice Ad Hominem. You have anything to add that would relate to the subject at hand, or will you continue to discredit me unjustly? Hey, for all we know, you're the same age as I am, it's not hard to lie on YouTube.
watchfulstorm 3 years ago
who is he??
buttonmonkey01 3 years ago
As George Carlin said, the people in charge will never investigate themselves. People can keep trying to get the truth out and God bless them for it, but I can't see anything changing. That and the general public is too lazy and dependant on mainstream media to even give a shit. I'm moving.
Killjoy192000 3 years ago
is he trying to rape manny badillo? what a n00b
passdop 3 years ago
thats a very low level of assault....
but!
i dont get how some1 can let some1 else walk up to them like that wouthout decking them out...
things are so differant where i live
pauliejay77 3 years ago
9/11 was caused by pissed of terrorists. End of story.
watchfulstorm 3 years ago
Just keep drinking that koolaid!
johnq54 3 years ago
Ok, I'll stick to koolaid and you can keep smoking that crack. There's no evidence that 9/11 was caused by anything other than terrorists.
watchfulstorm 3 years ago
You are too lazy , stupid or don't want to know the truth. Do some research douche bag. Building seven you stupid motherfucker. Where's the wreckage from the Pentagon and Shansville. I've been in aviation a long time and never have seen no wreckage at a crash. NEVER!!
johnq54 3 years ago 3
No wreckage? There was wreckage all over that damn place. Why would we want to run planes full of our citizens into our own buildings anyway? Honestly, Al-Queda had claimed responsibility for the attacks, but that's just not thrilling enough is it? Come on, show me ONE peice of evidence that our government, run by our own citizens, woke up one morning and decided to crash planes into tall buildings.
watchfulstorm 3 years ago
I'M not saying the gov't at large did it. Criminals w/in the gov/mil, private defense/intel contractors and mainstream TV media did 9/11.
Who says planes crashed into bldgs?
"Incidents to establish a credible attack...Start rumors (many)....Start fires...parts of aircraft (could be) found." ---Northwoods document, 1962
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks."
--Usama Bin Laden, Ummat, BBC Monitoring Service, 9/28/01
The "confession" video was fake!
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
"There was no possibility any plane crashed into the WTC & I base that on the fact that...there should've been at least 300 miles of wiring....any foot, any 6 inch length of 300 miles of wiring, & there should've been any one of 4 four-ton engines found...the engine found on Murray St. could not possibly been a CF6 or a Pratt & Whitney 4000 series..no airplanes crashed." ---John Lear, retired pilot of over 100 diff. types of airplanes, on RabbitHoleCentral, Aug '08
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
johnq54 what does douche bag mean does it mean you put the douche in the bag or something
crankingspiderman 3 years ago
Did Al-Qaeda loop this smoke?
watch?v=DkzfKRe0gbc
(source: Naudet DVD "9/11")
and loop these screams (at 1:37)?
watch?v=XW18k8EoJb4
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
your to fat and lazy to research anything. i feel sorry for you sheep
nwodoom 3 years ago
...and you're so naive and gullible that you'll believe anything you're told. I've made my own conclusions about 9/11.
watchfulstorm 3 years ago
Boring. All government employees lie to cover the truth. We are never going to know everything. But dont give up though.
fishtheorange 3 years ago
The structural engineer responsible for the design of the WTC described fires still burning and molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks
The head of a team of scientists studying the health effects of 9/11 reported "Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel"
As late as February 2002, firefighter Joe O'Toole saw a steel beam being lifted from deep underground "was dripping from the molten steel
WiseManuel 3 years ago
In this historical publication in a peer-reviewed Civil Engineering Journal the authors set a foundation for productive discussion and understanding by focusing on those areas where common ground is found with FEMA & NIST, while at the same time countering several popular myths about the WTC collapses.
'Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction': bentham-open . org / pages / gen . php ? file = 35TOCIEJ . pdf
Take Action Now for Justice!
WiseManuel 3 years ago
NIST admits "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse", even though no modern steel-frame building has ever before or since totally collapsed due to fire, even with much hotter and longer-burning fires
FEMA admits its best hypothesis for why WTC 7 collapsed has only "a low probability of occurring"
Three towers fell, not just two. If you didn't know that, empirical evidence verifies some other group, in addition to cia-created alqueda, contributed to the demolitions.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
The 9/11 Commission admits the U.S. military intentionally lied about what happened that day, the Commission reached conclusions based on political considerations, and that its conclusions were largely based on third-hand information conveyed through military spokespeople about what severley tortured, crazy people supposedly said.
A former National Security Adviser told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative".
You must be the change you want to see in this world.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
bush, cheney & all other key officials refused to testify under oath, & bush and cheney would not even speak to the 9/11 Commission unless they did together.
How is it reassuring when the professional whitewashers tasked w/ defending the government's version of what happened on 9/11 themselves aren't willing to swear to that version?
Actions speak louder than Words, though both reveal the False Flag / Inside Job / PsyOp known as 9/11.
Learn your history, learn your physics, learn the Truth!
WiseManuel 3 years ago
A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council Marx Ayres believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, Dr. David L. Griscom said the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.
A US physics professor who teaches at several universities Dr. Crockett Grabbe believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
A world-renowned scientist, Lynn Margulis, Ph.D, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement, said "I suggest that those of us aware & concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."
Military leaders, legal scholars, senators, presidents, even the 9/11 Commissioners themselves, have also all questioned the govt.'s theory of events.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
David Scott, Structural Engineer, of Scotland, argues: "Near-freefall collapse violates laws of physics. Fire induced collapse is not consistent with observed collapse mode ..."
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England, points out: "WTC7 Building could not have collapsed as a result of internal fire and external debris. NO plane hit this building. This is the only case of a steel frame building collapsing through fire in the world. The fire were small & localized ..."
WiseManuel 3 years ago
Where is their evidence to back up their claims?
thedman113 3 years ago
Jesus Christ I can't believe how many fucking idiots there are in the world. The fact that the truthers cover up everything that the anchorman says proves that they're just doing the equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and going "lalalalala" like a gaggle of 6 year olds.
PsychoJosh 3 years ago
Media Shill is right.
Too bad that Media shill was not Sean hannity.
Good Video.
williamwagener 3 years ago
Former Governor Jesse Ventura: WTC Collapse A Controlled Demolition. The Navy veteran and movie star savages official story, says media covering up truth about attacks. Governor Ventura vehemently savaged the official 9/11 story, saying the WTC collapsed like a controlled demolition and was pulverized to dust as he also highlighted the impossible 10 second free fall speed of the towers. "To me questions haven't been answered and are not being answered about 9/11," said Ventura.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
Physical laws -- the kinds of laws Isaac Newton discovered and which govern our universe --were violated on 9/11: The law of falling objects following the paths of least resistance; the law of conservation of momentum; the law of conservation of angular momentum. According to conservation-of-momentum laws, the block of approximately 34 floors on top of the South Tower should have continued to topple and fall through the path of least resistance: the air. It should have continued to topple ...
WiseManuel 3 years ago
... and fall to the ground far outside the building's footprint and NOT through the path of most resistance: the building itself. That same block which can be seen twisting at the start of the collapse should have kept twisting and obeyed the law of conservation of angular momentum but the rotation suddenly stopped. The stopping of both its rotation and its "toppling" can only be explained by the breakup of most of the block, which would have destroyed its moment of inertia.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
But there is no good explanation for the upper block of the towers to break up at the start of the collapse; unless of course, it was being broken up in a purposeful way as in a controlled demolition. This violation of physical laws alone virtually proves that the Official Story is a lie.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
There were many people including firemen who reported that molten metal was seen below all three (one not hit by an airplane) buildings that collapsed on 9/11. And there is a LOT of corroborating evidence in support of there being molten metal below the rubble such as extremely high temperatures recorded on NASA thermal maps and pictures of extremely hot orange/white hot steel. Only one thing could account for "flowing" molten metal: thermite.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
Evidence of thermite at ground zero was found. There would be no reason for the existence of thermite at the sites other than it being the reason for the molten metal.
The molten metal underneath the three buildings demolished on 9/11 were reported by firemen and others as "flowing like lava" for many weeks, then for the Official Story to be true there must be a scientific explanation. Since there is no such scientific explanation, that alone virtually proves the Official Story to be a lie.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
"Evidence of thermite at ground zero was found."
No it wasn't.
thedman113 3 years ago
The fact that both Twin Towers collapsed in symmetrically identical fashion even though the South Tower was hit very significantly off-center means something other than straight forward gravitational collapses were at work. The fact that the top section of EACH Twin Tower was able to plow its way symmetrically through the ENTIRE 80-90 stories below about as quickly as if it had fallen through thin air is alone enough to virtually prove the Official Story to be a lie.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
"The fact that both Twin Towers collapsed in symmetrically identical fashion even though the South Tower was hit very significantly off-center means something other than straight forward gravitational collapses were at work."
False. This wasn't a tree being chopped down. If a horse fell on your arm, would it slide off your arm and fall over to the side?
thedman113 3 years ago
So it wasnt a tree but a horse huh, brilliant
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
Answer the question? Would the horse slide off your arm or not?
See, the difference is you actually think the collapses should have happened in the same manner a tree would collapse. I'm just using the horse example as an analogy to explain why tons of force can overcome resistance without slowing much.
thedman113 3 years ago
I do? well thank you for doing my thinking for me as ive said nothing of the sort. Good luck with your delusions
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"I do? well thank you for doing my thinking for me as ive said nothing of the sort."
Excellent! So you DON'T think the collapses should have imitated the way a tree falls. Welcome to our side. You're going to have a lot of crazy twoofers here arguing with you, though.
thedman113 3 years ago
Actually I just thought your argument was way too simplistic and absurd. And thanks yet again to make another assumption here, but I dont care either way because this argument is moot to me. Im not a "twoofer" like you childishly call it nor do i worship the govts account as you seem to do. I actually ahve a brain of my own, thank you anyways
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"Actually I just thought your argument was way too simplistic and absurd."
Explain why.
"And thanks yet again to make another assumption here, but I dont care either way because this argument is moot to me."
Translation: "I'd better sidestep this tree thing before I make myself look stupid."
thedman113 3 years ago
Because youre comparing a huge steel reinforced building falling to a horse falling on someone, do i really need to say more? "Translation: "I'd better sidestep this tree thing before I make myself look stupid." more?" I didnt make the argument to begin with genius, i just thought your explanation was too simplistic.
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"Because youre comparing a huge steel reinforced building falling to a horse falling on someone, do i really need to say more?"
Nope, that's enough to tell me you don't know what an analogy is.
Twoofers think that the falling tower could not have A) fallen through the path of most resistance, and B) continued picking up speed. If a horse fell through 80 outstretched arms, it would do just that. So in twoofer land, if a horse falls on your arm, it should come to a stop.
thedman113 3 years ago
my point is that your analogy is ABSURD....again, youre comparing a freaking HORSE landing on ARMS to one of the biggest buildings in the WORLD lmao. I'm not even arguing your point, its your ridiculous analogy
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"my point is that your analogy is ABSURD....again, youre comparing a freaking HORSE landing on ARMS to one of the biggest buildings in the WORLD lmao"
No, I'm comparing one falling mass encountering resistance to another. Perhaps I can recommend dictionary dot com for the definition of analogy.
I know you're not going to argue it, because you know you would lose.
thedman113 3 years ago
No, because i actually AGREE WITH YOU LMAO, again, your argument is LAME
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"No, because i actually AGREE WITH YOU LMAO, again, your argument is LAME"
What part do you agree with?
thedman113 3 years ago
to be honest, i dont know why people would argue if the building would go straight down on towers 1 and 2, its building 7 that doesnt make sense to me.
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"its building 7 that doesnt make sense to me."
Ok, what's bothering you about it?
thedman113 3 years ago
huge damage to one side, and yet it fell straight down. There are several examples of steel buildings toppling over when damaged to one side actually. It only makes sense really, but yet it went straight down at near freefall speed
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"huge damage to one side, and yet it fell straight down."
Have you looked at the blueprints of building 7? Do you know how it was constructed?
"but yet it went straight down at near freefall speed"
Actually it took more than 18 seconds to collapse.
thedman113 3 years ago
lol, OK, now i know youre lying to me. Ive had enough, by the way, i suggest that you use different named accounts other than "thedman" because youre the 3rd person with that name with different numbers ive seen in the past couple of weeks
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"lol, OK, now i know youre lying to me."
Where did I lie?
thedman113 3 years ago
the collapse time, i know youre lying because ive seen the video myself plenty of times. Time for dinner, enjoy your job
PeoplesVendetta 3 years ago
"the collapse time, i know youre lying because ive seen the video myself plenty of times."
You must've missed this video, then:
/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8
Let me know how long it takes from when the building starts collapsing to when it stops.
thedman113 3 years ago
Given that the Official Story requires that a 125 foot wide 757 made only a 16 to 20 foot wide hole when it hit the Pentagon; and given that NIST claims that the airplanes that hit the Twin Towers severed massive interior steel columns after severing the perimeter steel columns; yet the wings, tail section, and massive engines were not able to penetrate the reinforced concrete walls of the Pentagon, something doesn't add up. Therefore, this alone virtually proves the Official Story to be a lie.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
"Given that the Official Story requires that a 125 foot wide 757 made only a 16 to 20 foot wide hole when it hit the Pentagon"
What's your source on the dimensions of that hole?
thedman113 3 years ago
Funny how twoofers give a thumbs down to people who simply ask for their source of information. That just says it all right there.
thedman113 3 years ago
Given the fact that there was not much airplane debris found at the Pentagon and the best explanation the Official Story can come up with is that most of the large 757 airliner vaporized; yet the Official Story claims they were able to identify each and every passenger and crew member through UNvaporized DNA -- NONE with an Arab sounding name; then this alone virtually proves the Official Story to be a lie.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
In the past 2 months, the Italian President - the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio -(false flag attacks in Europe) Francesco Cossiga, questioned the official story of 9/11 in Italy's largest newspaper, Corriere della Sera; as did Japanese Senator, Yukihisa Fujita, on National Japanese television in front of Japan's Prime Minister; & a conference organized by a European Minister of Parliament held at the European Parliament aired a new documentary 'Zero' on the 9/11 questions.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
So where was the "assult"? All I can see is a bunch of Troofers acting like a-holes on a public street where a news crew was trying to do their job.
buddhaglass 3 years ago
Hey asshole were you there...I left 1 month before this shit happened. I lost three good friends. to date there has never been a federal investigation although there have been civilian investigations and there is overwhelming evidence that says they were killed a in demolition. Not a 9/11 commission topic, they never even mentioned bulding 7. Do yourself a favor pull your head out and get into reality. If you can't move to Russia where noone has any rights.
riceowlex 3 years ago
You need to to understand one thing. Freedom of speech does not give anyone the right to demand that another person listen.
There is also no right to interupt one person's communications with another because they are not discussing what you wish to hear discussed.
There was a violation of rights here, but not what you advertise.
leftysergeant 3 years ago
We have come to an irrefutable fact; WTC 7 was overthrown by a controlled implosion. The building disappeared in a free fall, in only 6.5 seconds. The only problem is that an honest answer opens a whole lot of new, equally honest, very serious and extremely worrying questions. Questions that deserve a new, this time truly independent inquest of events that occurred on Sept. 11, an inquest that will reveal the actual perpetrators of the greatest crime of modern history.
WiseManuel 3 years ago
fema is obviously bullshit, don;t even bring that up. nist is shite as well, how many times are they going to change their story? just cause its a government agency doesn't mean its automatically an authority. no mention of molten metal, no mention of explosions, no explanation fot wtc 7 collapse. the only reason that the official story has any credence is that you become a pariah is you go against it
gosciu555 3 years ago
THE F*%king Anchor is jus cover up for the Faget govenment not wanted for thoese ppl to show wats F*%king Real. FOR THE NEWS PPL STOP SUCKING GOVERNMENT BALLS AND STOP HIDING TRUTH. BETTER YET.. ARE THEY GONNA HELP YOU WHEN U DIE? NO DO GO STICK A LAW PEEPEE UP UR BUTT
ChillAfterKillGrillx 3 years ago
"If you know so much about the NIST report yourself, name what they use in their reports. If it isn't Pancake Theory, then tell me what it is."
I'd be glad to! NIST says the collapse happened due to a combination of structural damage from the plane impacts, dislodged fireproofing at the impact zones, and the ensuing fire.
See, in order for you to argue that a report is false, it would probably be a good idea to actually READ it first, so you know what you're arguing against.
thedman113 4 years ago
"No, my point is, NIST used to believe the Pancake Theory"
Then you are once again wrong. NIST never, ever said it was a pancake collapse. FEMA said that was the most likely scenario, but had not conducted a 3 year investigation like NIST. Once NIST came out with their report, they corrected them to say it wasn't a pancake, just a progressive collapse.
thedman113 4 years ago
"I was responding to the post where you were talking about Controlled demolitions. It said nothing about Pyroclastic clouds."
You responded to my post about volcanic clouds, so you clearly jumped into the middle of a conversation without reading how it started.
thedman113 4 years ago
"The owner had it demolished. I remember watching an interview with him."
No, he didn't.
thedman113 4 years ago
do you realie NIST have actually now admitted that they don't know what caused the WTC 1 and 2, not just building 7, to collapse? kinda makes you wonder why they pretended it was a closed case for so long.
PFCAhammed 3 years ago
"Maybe some pieces that chipped off"
LOL!!
"why don't you post a link with factual photos of it collapsed because of the fire"
Ok, done:
tinyurl dot com/2xhq42
Scroll down to page 78. The Concrete Alliance uses the Windsor Building as an example of why concrete is better than steel in fires. Time for you to back down now.
thedman113 4 years ago
"They said it had ALREADY COLLAPSED. They said it in the PAST TENSE."
Holy cow, a reporting error on that day? The hell you say!
"The building wasn't even close to collapsing."
Firefighters must have cleared a perimeter around it for a training excercise then.
thedman113 4 years ago
"The Windsor Building was burning for 24 hours. The steel was still standing above the concrete."
So you're saying no part of the building collapsed at all.
thedman113 4 years ago
"You said that and yet you say the towers fell because of the plane hit, or at least events that are tangible to the crash, in essence saying they didn't survive it."
No, that's not what I said. They survived the plane crashes, they just didn't survive the combination of structural damage, dislodged fireproofing, and ensuing fires.
thedman113 4 years ago
"No, not "Volcanic" tuff. I still don't know where the hell you keep getting this Volcanic bullshit at."
Pyroclastic clouds are from volcanoes. You responded to my debate with UnwiseManuel that was about pyroclastic clouds. The fact that you don't know what those are doesn't shock me.
thedman113 4 years ago
"Laughable. I can post a link, and will:
The video says "...Would completely revise previous theories..."
watch?v=-RzwmD8uB8g"
So let me get this straight - you're trying to prove to me that NIST claims there was a pancake collapse by linking me to a video where NIST proves there WASN'T a pancake collapse. LOL! You're a brilliant man.
thedman113 4 years ago
"The steel was still standing. Taking the logic from your post, apparently concrete stands on its own? Was it floating there?"
You're clearly illustrating your ignorance on the subject. The Windsor Building had concrete columns on the lower half of the building. The upper half was steel columns. Those collapsed, the concrete ones didn't.
Feel free to post again and continue showing your stupidity.
thedman113 4 years ago
"The building burned through a WHOLE NIGHT and still didn't collapse."
The concrete part didn't. The steel part did.
"Sure, the steel was warped,"
Replace "warped" with "collapsed" and you're dead on.
thedman113 4 years ago
"Explain how so many people have heard of the NIST reports saying Pancake Collapse when it wasn't true?:"
If you think NIST claims a pancake collapse, please copy and paste where they say that. Here's their report:
wtc . nist . gov/pubs/
This is the part where you tell me to "find it yourself", "Do your own research", "I don't post links", or any one of the other standard twoofer ways of weaseling out of backing up their false claims.
thedman113 4 years ago
"Shut the hell up and go watch some more films about that day."
Will I find any pyroclastic clouds in them? You know, those clouds of superheated gases and volcanic tuff that kill any living thing in it's path?
thedman113 4 years ago
"Because they were reporting the collapse, BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED."
Exactly, now you're getting it! Because the firemen on the scene knew hours in advance that the building was about to collapse, and told the media.
thedman113 4 years ago
What the heck are you referring to?
thedman113 4 years ago
WE ARE CHANGE WE THE WORLD SALUTE YOU
DonkfestPokerDotCom 4 years ago
The lies are crumbling! Pour on the pressure wearechange you are doing a great job!
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
Keep up the pressure. The truth must come out. How the fuck can corporate media not pay attention to this?
iambanditami 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"How the fuck can corporate media not pay attention to this?"
Because they don't want to ruin their reputations by supporting an evidenceless, moronic theory.
thedman113 4 years ago
Extensive evidence can be found on the following sites supported by hundreds of experts and eye-witnesses. Check it out for yourself. Don't let truth deniers distract you, investigate it for yourself.
Patriotsquestion911(dot)com
Stj911(dot)org
Ae911truth(dot)org
Google videos watch for free:
911 Mysteries
Zeitgeist the Movie
Terrorstorm
Loose Change 2nd edition
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
LOL! Loose Change 2nd edition. Just stupid.
thedman113 4 years ago
you mean like the official story hahaha
gosciu555 4 years ago
All I can say is that when 911 happened I wasn't surprised. I also have stayed away from political crap pretty much throughout my life because I don't personally need government or laws. But later during Bush first term I at least realized that I could have voted against him. But then the elections were rigged anyway. Later now so, I understand the misleading that happens. It is a sad course that must be resisted. Resistance is the key, many turn from anger by nature.
wreckerpecker 4 years ago
Poor news anchor. Trying to do his job and a bunch of gullible morons interfere with it. He should have done more than bump chests. It wasn't assault but he should have made it one. Knock some sense into an idiot.
Scottyblack 4 years ago
scottyblack... so easy to sit there playing with your foreskin and talking out of your arse isn't it? The gullible moron is quite clearly you, you keep tossing off to fox news, and post it on you tube so we can all have a laugh.
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation. It was shaped by the agency to serve as a substitute "enemy" for America, replacing the Soviets whom the Islamist forces had driven from Afghanistan. Unknown American officials, at an indeterminate point in time, made the decision to fabricate the tale of a mythical worldwide network of Islamic terrorists from the exploits of the Afghan Mujahedeen.
WiseManuel 4 years ago
Concerning the collapse of WTC 7, warnings of the building's collapse have come to play an important role. In addition to the numerous collapse warnings mentioned in written documents, we have seen a growing number of videotape fragments and interviews in which people appear to have been told in advance of WTC 7's collapse. Many proponents of the controlled demolition hypothesis take these cases, both written and video, as evidence that the building's collapse was brought about deliberately.
WiseManuel 4 years ago
baaa.baaa...
crack me the hell up!!
desire4liberation 4 years ago
that reporter is a punk ass bitch.
082076 4 years ago
if the OCT were true they would not have hauled off all the steel and sent it to be melted. They would not have blocked investigation for over a year and there would not be a media blackout on the subject. They would not be afraid to debate the subject on live TV. Norad would not have told 3 different contradictory stories about what they did that day. They are lying and it is obvious. Lying about mass murder.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
"if the OCT were true they would not have hauled off all the steel and sent it to be melted."
They didn't.
thedman113 4 years ago
they didn't? Then where is it?
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
236 pieces were saved by NIST for study. Other pieces have been saved in a hangar at JFK to be made into a memorial onces something gets built at the site. Imagine how stupid you twoofers will look when you say "All the steel was shipped off to be melted!" while standing next to a huge beam from the towers.
thedman113 4 years ago
that's interesting, thank you. Is there anyway to varify this?
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
"that's interesting, thank you. Is there anyway to varify this?"
There sure is. You can see photos of all the salvaged steel along with analysis about them in the NIST report:
wtc . nist . gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-3Draft . pdf
thedman113 4 years ago
Funny how independant investigators are not allowed to examine the steel or take samples for testing due to "national security". BTW what national security interests are threatened by scientists examining the steel? Tell me why that would threaten national security?
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
"Funny how independant investigators are not allowed to examine the steel or take samples for testing due to "national security"."
Had you read the NIST report, you would know that independent investigators have already examined the steel.
thedman113 4 years ago
Bazant is the key to NIST and Bazant has been thoroughly debunked by Gordon Ross from scholars for truth and justice stj911 (dot)com
In his excellent paper titled: NIST AND DR. BAZANT - A SIMULTANEOUS FAILURE
Also check out Gordon Ross on YouTube.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
"Bazant has been thoroughly debunked by Gordon Ross"
Name one good point Gordon Ross made.
thedman113 4 years ago
Anyone heard of the Turing Test? These machines are getting more convincing, note the short answers, normally quoting and then repeating some of the quote in a reply. Classic A.I. bullshit. You're talking to a machine, not a person, designed to waste your valuable time and get you to take your eye off the ball. Don't feed the machine, then maybe it wil go back to playing chess.
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
if there was thermate involved i doubt they saved any pieces that could be swabed for it.Furthermore, if how they handle this evidence is indicator, no third party will have the priveledge to find out.
richaround 4 years ago
"if there was thermate involved i doubt they saved any pieces that could be swabed for it."
Swabed for it? They saved 236 pieces needed for their investigation. There's just as much evidence for thermate as there is evidence that leprechauns did it.
"no third party will have the priveledge to find out."
Yeah, criminal investigation evidence usually isn't available to the public.
thedman113 4 years ago
More independent, peer-reviewed, technical articles about the demolitions on 9/11: "Revisiting 9/11/2001 -- Applying the Scientific Method", "Can Physics Rewrite History?", "Another reason the 9/11 fire-mediated collapse theory is wrong", "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?", "Proof That The Thermal and Gravitational Energy Available Were Insufficient to Melt Steel in the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center on 9/11/01" AE911Truth . org/techarts . php
WiseManuel 4 years ago
"More independent, peer-reviewed, technical articles"
Peer reviewed by who? Please post the technical journals they appeared in.
thedman113 4 years ago
I see you have not yet posted the technical journals that your demolition articles have been published in. Are you admitting they never have?
thedman113 4 years ago
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Truthstorm911 4 years ago
Independent, peer-reviewed, technical articles about the demolitions on 9/11: "Momentum Transfer Analysis of the Collapse of the Upper Stories of WTC 1", "Direct Evidence for Explosions: Flying Projectiles and Widespread Impact Damage", "Lies about the WTC by NIST and Underwriters Laboratories", "Physical Chemistry of Thermite, Thermate, Iron-Alum-Rich Microspheres at Demise of WTC 1 & 2" - AE911Truth . org/techarts . php
WiseManuel 4 years ago
"Independent, peer-reviewed, technical articles about the demolitions on 9/11"
...don't exist.
thedman113 4 years ago
the amount of money the US government must be paying in wages for disinformation from people like thedman113, well keeps them off the streets I imagine.
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
yeah, Ive got a few names I could add to the list....thedman113 actually sounds to be a knowledgeable idiot...or at least he can google facts to argue with.But some of the other posts on the other vids, sound earily paid for.
richaround 4 years ago
".thedman113 actually sounds to be a knowledgeable idiot...or at least he can google facts to argue with"
Which is more than the whole 9/11 truth movement combined.
thedman113 4 years ago
gotta get rid of all that fed reserve currency they print day and night , were in a lotta trouble , anyone heard of what buildings do ,they resist gravity. on 9/11 , 3 did not, no symmetrical collapse on 1 or 2, like twisting,and breaking from weak point, and not falling at free fall speed, especially bldg 7 it was like some acme black hole appeared under it , unresistant to gravity why? no support why? demolition!=Thermate=,aerosolized particle dust,=Iron micro spheres,= 2000F 5 weeks later!!
1tetsuo1 4 years ago
There was also warning that building 7, which was not even hit by a plane, was going to collapse. Indeed, people "waited around" for the building to collapse. Right before WTC7 came down, a NYPD police officer said clear away, the whole building is "about to blow up"A firefighter stated "They moved us back south. We ended up back up on Vesey Street and West Street and just hanging out until tower 7 came down. After tower 7 came down, we went right to work over at tower 7 to put the fires out".
WiseManuel 4 years ago
"There was also warning that building 7, which was not even hit by a plane, was going to collapse. Indeed, people "waited around" for the building to collapse."
Why? How did they know?
thedman113 4 years ago
No engineer in the country, including the designers of the world trade centers, thought they would collapse. Indeed, "experts said no building like it, a modern, steel-reinforced high-rise, had ever collapsed because of an uncontrolled fire" and the twin towers were designed to survive multiple airplane strikes. Indeed, the towers were designed five times stronger than needed to support the structure.
WiseManuel 4 years ago
"and the twin towers were designed to survive multiple airplane strikes"
They did survive the airplane strikes.
thedman113 4 years ago
thedman113 ... you're so funny, you're not convincing anyone
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
So you don't think they survived the airplane strikes, and fell immediately after being hit.
thedman113 4 years ago
I guess in the life time of a mayfly that qualifies as surviving... 3000 dead people ... officially the towers collapsed because of the fire caused by the airplane fuel. Did the architects think that a plane could crash into the building without any fuel on board? They just forgot to factor that in I suppose. Either the towers fell down because the planes crashed into them, or there was another reason. What do you think?
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
". officially the towers collapsed because of the fire caused by the airplane fuel."
Not exactly. You're proving you've never read the NIST report and don't even know what you're arguing against.
"Did the architects think that a plane could crash into the building without any fuel on board?"
They thought the 707 would have much, much less, as it would be coming in for a landing at a nearby airport.
thedman113 4 years ago
so if the the airplane fuel didn't start a fire, and the towers did not collapse because of the fires that weren't started by the airplane fuel, then what did start the fire, and why did they collapse. Maybe you could digest the NIST report you have clearly read so carefully?
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
"so if the the airplane fuel didn't start a fire, "
Show me where I said the airplane fuel didn't start a fire. Heck with the NIST report, you can't even digest my post! Stupid.
thedman113 4 years ago
now why would I want to digest shit? Never the less perhaps you should re-read the crap you have posted, shit for brains.
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
oh... and here is the shit that you posted... you can't back up a thing you say, you claim to have read this report or that report, when challenged I am stupid, and all the reports you have read can go to heck... what a wanker
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
thedman113 (hace 45 minutos)
". officially the towers collapsed because of the fire caused by the airplane fuel."
Not exactly. You're proving you've never read the NIST report and don't even know what you're arguing against.
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
Yep, and nowhere in there did I say the airplane fuel didn't start a fire. Thanks for proving you have no idea what you're reading.
thedman113 4 years ago
so what exactly is "not exactly", you're so full of bull. Answer the question or shut the fuck up.
160newcrossroad 4 years ago
"so what exactly is "not exactly""
It means saying that "officially the towers collapsed because of the fire caused by the airplane fuel" is not exactly true.
thedman113 4 years ago
theres no sense arguing with these people...dont waste your time
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