i thought sample pictures i saw on the web were better than any p&s. very sharp, something i can't say about my canons. this cam needs to be in p&s price range and at least 3x zoom.
No zoom huh. Would be terible to take it on a safari trip in Africa to take up close shots at lions lol. Thats how I would die. But I love this camera, I dont have it but what do I know im just starting this photography thing gonna go to photography school soon. But it looks cool! I love the classy but yet not to old look of it. I just wished it had a optical zoom.
Not only cause of the sensor. besides its not even 14.6 megapixal its divaided by the 3 primary colors so it only gives off like 4 or something effective megapixels. I just like it cause it looks cool
"poor man's m8". ha. that's very snotty. who calls it that? the dp1 is indeed aimed at a different user/(niche) market to the m8 (hence the more than notable difference in price), but the m8 is a completely different instrument altogether. for instance: try carrying an m8 in to your trouser pocket. why compare the two?
OK, if you talk about fixed 28mm, my old Ricoh GR1 is f/2.8 (assuming dSLR sensor you mean something close to 135 format). How come this one is bulkier and is only f/4?
the larger the sensor the shallower the depth of field. because your GR1 digital has a small sensor it';s effective aperture compared to this camera is actually more smaller.
It's about time that somebody got the idea to leave out the SLR mechanism but have other desirable traits. But it needs to support optical zoom, and other lenses as an option would be nice for some people. Above all i'm glad they give the audience enough credit to realize that an SLR mech doesn't get you anything in a digital system (beside shake, delay, and usually no live-preview).
Sorry, I made a mistake saying the DP1 lens is f1.4. Seems like "basslinegenerator" was right; it is indeed f4
I stand by my purchase order and positive comments about this camera anyway, although I wish that lens really would have been f1.4 as I thought it was ;-)
The DP1 camera is a jewel of pure genius. I am not afflated with the manufacturer or any sales outlet. I just ordered one from Yodobashi Camera here in Tokyo. They have a back-order list several weeks, and possibly months long even though cameras keep on being delivered to the store in groups every week.
Although they've finally gotten close with this one, they always do something like that, and cannot ever add up all the right stuff including but not limited to fast lenses. They'll say of course, that you can compensate with onboard software but why!? Make them right the first time and built loyalty and apreciation from a market base.
because ... it has no zoom-range, the lense is backfocusing, so there would be no moving parts, the lense itself could be much sturdier, it could be made from aluminium, not plastic to make it light, so the retraction takes lesser power. if its a zoom lens it has to be made in at least two parts anyway, but if its fixed, why not make it out of sturdy one piece aluminium?
I'm just wondering what neighborhood the battery life will be in.
Granted, if the screen even remotely accurately represents the picture that was taken you won't NEED as much battery life with something like that, but still...
When they "finally" overcome the problems and release this thing despite announcing back in 2006, in 2008 it will still be the only compact digital camera with a large sensor. There'll be nothing out there competing with it. It will make for a good compact camera for those that need the extra benefits this will bring with the large sensor included. Will be useful for situations when you dont want to lug around your DSLR but still need large sensor capabilities.
Um, yeah. This little jewel was announced September 2006 and was supposed to be available Spring 2007. Where the heck is it?
According to Sigma, the delay is the result of poor image quality delivered during testing necessitating a "change to the entire image processing pipeline." Nice one, Sigma.
Technologically this camera packs a punch but i can't say much about the shape design though
nwl213 1 year ago
lucky bastard!
antiiraqwar 2 years ago
I love landscapes and architecture, so this is a nice camera for me. But better will be my own dream Sigma DP3 with 20/2.8 tilt-shift :)
coolchef1337 3 years ago
i thought sample pictures i saw on the web were better than any p&s. very sharp, something i can't say about my canons. this cam needs to be in p&s price range and at least 3x zoom.
GarbageState 3 years ago
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Another Leica wannabe... No P & S camera is worth a crap.
ibimw 3 years ago
no tiltable LCD scree?
LTF85199 3 years ago
No zoom huh. Would be terible to take it on a safari trip in Africa to take up close shots at lions lol. Thats how I would die. But I love this camera, I dont have it but what do I know im just starting this photography thing gonna go to photography school soon. But it looks cool! I love the classy but yet not to old look of it. I just wished it had a optical zoom.
miniheli 3 years ago
you love this camera only for the lens it has, nothing else...
bizarrius 3 years ago
Not only cause of the sensor. besides its not even 14.6 megapixal its divaided by the 3 primary colors so it only gives off like 4 or something effective megapixels. I just like it cause it looks cool
miniheli 3 years ago
"poor man's m8". ha. that's very snotty. who calls it that? the dp1 is indeed aimed at a different user/(niche) market to the m8 (hence the more than notable difference in price), but the m8 is a completely different instrument altogether. for instance: try carrying an m8 in to your trouser pocket. why compare the two?
jamescapewell 3 years ago
what's the use of having a large size sensor if a slow lens means I am restricted in manipulating DOF?
urbandiscount 3 years ago
I don't have this camera and don't even intent to buy it, but have you seeing the pictures it makes? Go to flick and take a look...
Simply amazing!
eieui 3 years ago 3
OK, if you talk about fixed 28mm, my old Ricoh GR1 is f/2.8 (assuming dSLR sensor you mean something close to 135 format). How come this one is bulkier and is only f/4?
holuncheung 3 years ago
the larger the sensor the shallower the depth of field. because your GR1 digital has a small sensor it';s effective aperture compared to this camera is actually more smaller.
tgrupert 3 years ago
It's about time that somebody got the idea to leave out the SLR mechanism but have other desirable traits. But it needs to support optical zoom, and other lenses as an option would be nice for some people. Above all i'm glad they give the audience enough credit to realize that an SLR mech doesn't get you anything in a digital system (beside shake, delay, and usually no live-preview).
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago
feels like leica
BBnose 3 years ago
Thats why they call it a poor mans M8 :P
HideoRamin 3 years ago
f4...that's too slow...ridiculous.
urbandiscount 3 years ago
if this lens was f2.8 or f3.5 it would be much, much larger and the camera woul dno longer compact. The clean ISO's make up for it
dmc3 3 years ago 2
Sorry, I made a mistake saying the DP1 lens is f1.4. Seems like "basslinegenerator" was right; it is indeed f4
I stand by my purchase order and positive comments about this camera anyway, although I wish that lens really would have been f1.4 as I thought it was ;-)
SETAGAYAN 4 years ago
To "basslinegenerator":
The DP1 lens is f1.4 i.e. way better than f2.0
The DP1 camera is a jewel of pure genius. I am not afflated with the manufacturer or any sales outlet. I just ordered one from Yodobashi Camera here in Tokyo. They have a back-order list several weeks, and possibly months long even though cameras keep on being delivered to the store in groups every week.
Cheers!
SETAGAYAN 4 years ago
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It's another Lumix
zeophoto 4 years ago
you know nothing, boy.
a20010494 3 years ago 2
I'm real impressed with you and you're Okefenokee talk. They're all the same and you may spend a lot of money before ever understanding that.
zeophoto 3 years ago
but you DO know that the sigma has a dslr sized sensor, which is appr 8x bigger than the sensor in the lumix ... dont you ?
basslinegenerator 3 years ago
why f4 ????? i want shallow depth of field !! its a fixed lense man ! this has to be 2.0 minimum
basslinegenerator 4 years ago
Although they've finally gotten close with this one, they always do something like that, and cannot ever add up all the right stuff including but not limited to fast lenses. They'll say of course, that you can compensate with onboard software but why!? Make them right the first time and built loyalty and apreciation from a market base.
zeophoto 4 years ago
agree .. and stop making retractable lenses on a fixed lense camera ... thats sick !!
basslinegenerator 4 years ago
"agree .. and stop making retractable lenses on a fixed lense camera ... thats sick !!"
Why is that?
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago
because ... it has no zoom-range, the lense is backfocusing, so there would be no moving parts, the lense itself could be much sturdier, it could be made from aluminium, not plastic to make it light, so the retraction takes lesser power. if its a zoom lens it has to be made in at least two parts anyway, but if its fixed, why not make it out of sturdy one piece aluminium?
basslinegenerator 3 years ago
does anyone know why it has two typical paddle-controls on the back Wide/Tele
when its a fixed focal length camera 28mm equiv. this is starting to bug me :)
anarchist4500 4 years ago
Its for digital zoom.
g7vgg 4 years ago
Digital zoom (yuk!) and likely to zoom in on your images when reviewing them. (highly useful)
basscheffers 4 years ago
whats the zoom on it?
Roxy0surfer 4 years ago
no zoom. Fixed 28mm
ohnetitel3 4 years ago
I'm just wondering what neighborhood the battery life will be in.
Granted, if the screen even remotely accurately represents the picture that was taken you won't NEED as much battery life with something like that, but still...
IanFinnesey 4 years ago
When they "finally" overcome the problems and release this thing despite announcing back in 2006, in 2008 it will still be the only compact digital camera with a large sensor. There'll be nothing out there competing with it. It will make for a good compact camera for those that need the extra benefits this will bring with the large sensor included. Will be useful for situations when you dont want to lug around your DSLR but still need large sensor capabilities.
viper8177 4 years ago
I just will keep using my E-410 with my Konica 40mm F 1.8 Pancake lens!
KaiserSozeSPF 4 years ago
yeah but this thing will have a 28mm FOV equivelant lens. the e410 with 40mm will be 80mm equivalant FOV
iamtheenemy 4 years ago
Um, yeah. This little jewel was announced September 2006 and was supposed to be available Spring 2007. Where the heck is it?
According to Sigma, the delay is the result of poor image quality delivered during testing necessitating a "change to the entire image processing pipeline." Nice one, Sigma.
daemon12xu 4 years ago
amazing DC
BBnose 4 years ago
I want one!
Icedrgn 5 years ago