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  • Dear Santa,

  • No one knows How well will the F-15SE, Su-35 and F-22 will perform, since they havnt been into any engagment beside just some friendly air exercise. Especially for the F-15SE and Su-35, so far there is no report about that F-15SE and Su-35 have enter any air exercise. While the F-22 has and it is not the best fighter in the world. F-22 went head to head with F-16 and F-15, yes F-22 did win but some F-22 got shot down in just a simple dog fight. By F-16 and F-15 and these are old aircraft.

  • классное видео и музон!!!

  • 4.5 or 5th gen are just numbers the problem with the F22 is that its not total stealth small bird radar size and as soon as it launches its missle it can be seen missiles are not stealth the SU35/SU37 are designed to out maneuver incoming missiles! there built for a dog fight at close range the SU35/SU37 are deadly a tough call as to who would be victorious

  • fail at anyone who is comparing this to the F-22...your comparing 4.5 gen and 5th gen fighters..like wtf?

  • F22 still has the lead over the F35, with a lower radar profile and heat signature. The Sukhoi could be spotted by an AWACS hundreds of miles away due to its whale like radar sig. I am looking forward to a rel Russian combat aircraft with stealth. The future is in unmanned (ground controlled) fighters that can do 18-20 G turns, that would kill a human pilot.

  • @oneseven73 Since when 0.5m^2 is a "whale like radar signature"?

    At what distance AWACS can spot F-15SE?

  • ...I think americans posting here mean f22 HAD the lead...many years ago...now they are canceled and grounded couse multiple faliure, grounded next to f35 XD

  • @mauricioalfredo83 After the end of production of F-22 this year, the whole fleet will pass modernization for $7.4bln. It's 40mln per plane. Who told you that US can't keep the lead? :)

  • its good, but whats good about a plane that looks like a whale on radar verses one that looks like a hummingbird. The 35 would be in flames before they knew that the F-22 hit them

  • @oneseven73 "Whales" are only in your dreams :) RCS 0.5 is not a "whale".

  • - US Army have 7years  technical lead, U.S. has F-15 K and F 15 silent Eagly (with Stealth Technology) U.S. F-22 Raptor has been flying since 1999, U.S. Air Force - Building Pakfa Russians, why? su-35 because not enough for F-22 / F-35! Russia finished yet with Pakfa! Ferftig USA since 1999 and now comes f-35! USA is a leader in drone technology or why Russia buy drones in Israel? here many

  • F 15 SE is air to ground lol and su 35 have thrust vectoring.

  • @pokemon5615 F-15E Strike Eagle is a ground attack one. F-15SE stays for Silent Eagle and is the latest version air-to-air with reduced RCS and internal bays.

  • @BitnikGr

    I wasn't aware that the F15SE had any buyers as yet?

    As concerns F22, where has it been when the US has gone to war? Other, less expensive jets have done the fighting, which suggests to me that the F22 just does not work.

  • @Ag3nt0fCha0s F-15SE hasn't any buyers, but it is offered as alternative to countries who looks after F-22 and F-35. Korea, Japan.

    To war against whom? Afghanistan? Libya? If F-16/18 can do the job, then why dragging F-22 into it? For last 7 years F-22 is more a strategic factor of dissuasion than a tactically operational force. It is just a projection of power, like "Fleet in Being" concept.

  • @LuckyB1990 "A war in which USA take over and control entire Russia is barely impossible. The opposite too."

    +1000

  • F-22s are overated. THIS is the real deal. A lovely SU-35.

  • F-22 Raptors would have fun with these for target practice.

  • @1ohtaf1 :DDDD

    "This aircraft is what the Americans like to label

    a “game changer”, as it fuses elements of fifth

    generation technology such as supersonic cruise

    engines and high power-aperture phased array

    radar, with a mature airframe design. By carefully balancing advanced technology and a mature basic

    design, the Russians have produced a fighter that will decisively defeat all US teen series fighters, and the F-35 family of fighters.

  • I bet Guts went like "Colonel, it's him! The shark bastard!"

  • that shit is no joke!! o.O

  • Powerplant - two turbojet engines? Wrong - it has turbofan engines, like most fighter jets over the last 30 years.

  • go search Irbis-E versus raptor on google, you'll see this make a raptor turn into a gecko

  • It is legal to have one of this parked in my neighborhood? I have plenty space...

    

  • just because you are american, then you hate all the russian products, lol pathetic isn't it? try to be objective.

  • Except for the F-14 Tomcat, I like the Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 Better.

  • 4 americans dislike this plane

  • @TributeToTesla they only like F15 and F16

  • I want it in black color with a big red star, thank you =P.

  • F-22. Say the word then BAM! Sudden flame wars. What the hell man.

  • Being high tech does not guarantee victory. Air combat is won by the better pilots. The USAF has proved this time and time again in Korea and Iraq.Mig 29's were shot down in droves by less sophisticated US Navy hornets.

  • @oneseven73 "Mig 29's were shot down in droves by less sophisticated US Navy hornets." - What?! Those Fulcrums were downgraded to the worst possible extend. MiG-29UB even hadn't radars. They had no chance against fully equipped F-16s and F-18s. USN Hornets were not in any case less sophisticated than Serbian or Iraqi MiG-29s. Maybe you meant that MiG-29 could outmaneuver them in 1-on-1 guns only duel, but air battle is not a knight's tournament any more.

  • @BitnikGr . No I dont think I said anything about the hornet being less sophisticated. I'll take any US planes avionics over their russian counterparts any day. The one thing people forget is the big unknown. Technology in an aircraft is only good as the pilots that fly them. The US has proven this time and time again. The first air kill in Vietnam was by a far less manoverable Thunderchief (105?) against a much smaller mig-19. Pilots determine outcome, not technology.

  • @oneseven73 "Mig 29's were shot down in droves by less sophisticated US Navy hornets."

    That's what you said exactly. I just show that those shot down MiGs were not more sophisticated than planes they encounter.

    In everything else you said about importance of a pilot's skills and experience I agree with you.

  • Dear Santa...

  • northrop should make a video like this for the hornet.

  • if world war 3 broke out the russians would target northrop with their bombers and i'd be like collateral damage cuz i work across the street from there. hehe.

  • the su 35 vs f 18 hornet. who would win?

  • @jackngo2 su 35. and im not some kind of fan boy. su 35 simply better then f18 hornet (which is good aircraft too).

  • @RealNarod28 the su 35 is better in all aspects than the f 22 except for stealth.

  • @krasnirex Russians already know all secrets of stealth technology, so you know, its not going to help f22, its doomed anyway... stealth is behind in 80's... all countries already use stealsh technology... China, Russia, India... Stealth is a past century...

  • @RealNarod28 Well, not all, most western countries are still without a stealth plane.

  • i want this jet for Philippine Air Force ><

  • did anyone else get turned on by this video...?

  • i'm sorry guys, all this tech is failed united states designs either stolen or sold to Russia, knowing it was doomed for the scrap heap, the united states government turned a blind eye. Lets face it, who cares, its not up to speck, not in regard to the mighty american standard

    god bless the United Sates of America

  • @Mr2pint stupid american get out of libya. what are you talking about? ''god bless the usa'' america is in a illigal war now with libya according to the UN. so shut your ''USA'' talk and russia's tech was alwas better and is always more peaceful used. LOL ''god bless the United Sates of America'' global terrorists..... give me a fucking break

  • @jijdom Learn to speak English before addressing me

    "God bless the United States of America" at least you understood that, Now repeat "God bless the United States of America" at least 200 times per day in written and oral form. You might learn to respect the one and only superpower

  • @Mr2pint how funny while US experts see Russia as a world superpower and america is also the one and only war terrorists in this world.

  • @jijdom apart from Great Britain, the United States of America is the only country willing to take on terrorist

    now watch yourself, or you'll be next for detention

  • @Mr2pint lol US taking on terrorist while they kill innocent every day. the US is also the only country killing innocent everyday.

  • @Mr2pint How many US aircrafts were stolen by USSR and how many Soviet fighters were stole by US? Wanna start counting?

    "not in regard to the mighty american standard"

    "According to a January report from the Commerce Department, counterfeit electronics in the defense industry are on the rise. In 2005, there were 3,868 incidents detected, compared with 9,356 in 2008, according to the report."

    Mighty American standard with 9.000 Chinese counterfeits in US military electronics per year?!

  • Copy off the Western Technology - US have this Technology in f-15 K bevor 7 jeahrs ! that is not the best Machine in world europfighter , Rafael , F-15 K , I are better or same !

  • @Raptorsky20 Erm, mate this is the latest variant of the SU-27, a plane that was feared/admired in its day for its very advanced radar giving it the ability to target and destroy the original F-15 before the Eagle could even get close enough to fire on it.

  • @llynellyn Su 35 is going to destroy F22 without any problems.

  • @RealNarod28 okay , if the su-35 is better and would destroy an f-22 with out any problems wich would be a problem... then why is russia building pak fa to try and keep with with the f-22 then? why? because russia already knows the su-35 would not last or get within 20 nm of a f-22 due to the superior avionics in the f-22 and the highly trained pilots who fly the plane. so my point to you is the su-35 is better in maneuverability and carrying more missles , thats about it to be honest.

  • @jc005e To try to keep up with f35 maybe. And to earn billions from sales. USA dont sale their 5th generation planes to... India for example. To Venezuela... And now this countries is able to buy 5th generation plane from Russia.

  • @RealNarod28 Indias just buying planes from every one , they really don't need any 5th gen fighter because there not in threat to any country and were most certainly not gonna bother them unless they try to start some shit lol , the f-35 on the other hand is being sold to all the nato countrys but personaly we shouldnt sell to india due to there friends with russia but if so they would have to sign a contract stateing they wont leak information to them.

  • @jc005e such planes as f-22 raptor and pak are latest designs what technology can produce. Yet both of these planes costs so much that in actual war situation the old planes would do the fighting, f-16,f-18- f-35b etc.

    America doesnt have that mady f-22 raptors that they would be the key to take air mastery in combat between 2 modern armys, yet f-22 raptors would be used in war, but not like the old planes.

  • @jc005e "russia already knows the su-35 would not last or get within 20 nm of a f-22" - Why 20nm? Why not 10 or why not 50?

    "due to the superior avionics in the f-22 and the highly trained pilots who fly the plane."

    Since when avionics or pilots make a plane more or less stealthy?

    If you sit in Raptor's cockpit and I sit in Raptor's cockpit, will it become more stealthy? :)

  • @llynellyn If you look at the specifications, the F15C way outperforms the SU27 in every dimension. The SU35 with the improved avionics, canards and air-frame will be a tough competitor, if you look at the performance physically, the F15 still has a higher thrust to weight ratio, longer range, higher ceiling limit, faster max speed, and higher combat radius. The SU35 however has air to land capability while the F15C does not, the SU35 is also more affordable.

  • "Independent air combat

    simulations and parametric analysis indicate that

    this design will achieve around a 10:1 exchange

    rate against the F-35, and even higher against the

    F/A-18 family of fighters."

    So dont make us laugh comparing it with F-15C.

  • @TribunPopuli And why don't you think that F-15C and F-15SE are superior to F-35 and F/A-18?

    How can you be sure that F-15SE vs SU-35BM won't be like 1:1 ratio? :)

    Not in close dogfight, but in general...

  • @BitnikGr

    In general, that (what I posted) was a review/article on SU-35S/BM from Australian Air Power magazine. I guess you believe them, do you?

  • @TribunPopuli I don't doubt Sukhois probable superiority over F-18 and F-35. But you said "don't make us laugh comparing with F-15C" implying that F-15C is even worse than F-18/35. Am I wrong? You meant something else?

    Meanwhile I think otherwise. And why SU-35 should be compared with old F-15C, when there is a F-15SE already in service and much more capable than F-15SE. I think that thanks to its reduced RCS and AESA radar F-15SE has all chances to be on par with SU-35.

  • @1ohtaf1 "If you look at the specifications, the F15C way outperforms the SU27 in every dimension."

    Ok... Let's take a look... F-15C vs SU-27P/SK/SKM

    Thrust to weight: 1.12 - 1.2

    Wing loading: 358kg/m^2 - 363

    Rate of climb: 254 - 285/300

    Where is exactly your outperforming in every dimension?

    Actually Russian SU-27UB and F-15D had meet in 1992 in Langley and Flanker outperformed Eagle twice.

  • @BitnikGr I find that hard to believe

  • @1ohtaf1 I am not surprised. But faith and facts don't always go along.

    You don't believe what exactly? Provided data of flying characteristics or RuAF friendly visit to USAF in 1992 and then USAF visit to RuAF in 1993?

  • @BitnikGr inaccuracy and subjective opinions are not facts sir....

  • @1ohtaf1 You didn't say what exactly you don't believe. Provided flying characteristics of SU-27 or visit of Russian Air Force to Langley AB in 1992?

    Which of these is not fact for you? Or both are subjective opinions? :)

  • @Raptorsky20 I thought the same until I watched some vids...its thrust vectoring and only amkes it a worthy rival for these aicraft you mentioned

  • @Raptorsky20 You writing skills are sure a copy of a proper English :)))

  • i wish canada would have bought these instead of the shitty f 35

  • GREECE SHOULD BUY THIS SUPER MACHINE!!

    NOT RAFALE,F35 AND THE OTHER BULLSHIT!

  • @jimpaokara Greece ? they dont have money and iff they buy this machine Türkey fuck greece !

  • Aí está um caça perfeito...

  • GREEK AIR FORCE SU-35BM FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jasper5554 So are you the first or the later? XD

  • Too bad Russia can only afford about 10 of these....... And with their track record wouldn't be surprised to see one of these jets sold in the black market do to lack of money for maintenance  and system upgrades lmao!

  • @latinluigi 10? We buying 300 to 2015, and since 2015 we buying the same amount of T50 (Su-50, PAKFA) till 2020.

  • @RealNarod28 Haha that's a bluff by the Russian government man they won't even purchase more than 20 trust me. Russia hasn't been able to deliver anything since the collapse of the soviet union now they aren't even relevant at all militarily except for a few nukes. China and USA lead the way militarily now.

  • @latinluigi You so stupid or what? Russia thats developet them cant puschase 20??? If war is going to break out, they (we) can make 100000 of them... Its our choise. Money is not important when security of your country is at risk. So dont forget, WE make them, and we can make thousands of them is we want

  • @latinluigi hhahahaha gtfo you just fucking fail

    We won't stop our R'n'D even when financing is ceased (unlike privatised losers), leave alone procurement on sudden demand. Proven right numerous times.

  • Wait, wait... so this is not DLC for HAWX?

  • @alexfakbar999....no I think that cuz the T-50 is just a prototype and wont be in production for at least 5 years according to russia itself

  • American ones have 360 degrees surveillance. just saying, i dont know much about fighter jets so dont get angry at me

  • russian crazy cool smart xD

  • @jasper5554

    FUCK  YOU americunt !

  • @jasper5554

    UAC which is company that owns Sukhoi (MiG) has 51% of Antanov shares!

    They make decisive decisions of what is going to be built in Antonov !

    Also Russia has manufactured An-124 Antonov "Ruslan" on Russian territory also

    and they will continue to do that !

  • how much those these cost?

  • Haha Americans, now we gotcha! :)

  • Polu kalo video fobero aeroskafos.:)

  • Beutifull plane didn't even know it existed until I noticed it while looking for the pak fa in hawx 2keep up the great work Russia from canada hope well be flying sukhoi in the future looking forward to seeing your new plane combat ready along side the su37

  • It was a great aircraft fighter...

    but i've got a question....

    if compared with F22 Raptor or Eurofighter typhoon, wich one eill win???

    is that true SU-35 is better than SU-37???

  • wow wow wow wow wow wow RUSSIA IS BACK!!

  • CI ES LYULKA TIENE QUE SER BUENO

  • This is the most suitable aircraft for the Greek Air Force!

    Would solve, our defensive problems once and for all!

  • everything is great but thing that making this plane phatetic is russian pilots witch are one of the lov hour spend on simulators about 200 becouse russians dont hame much simulators and fly hours is soo phatetic only acrobation representative is aloved to fly more

  • wow awesome Su 35 BM, i think my country should buy this airplane,

  • Sukhoi the BEST !!!

  • Russian planes and camo = sexy.

  • i feel like this is a porsche comercial XD

  • After watching this demo I would like to buy one :D

  • @krasichobi two..You forgott the friends again

  • @Walisgton I am planning to share it

  • sukhoi will surpass lockheed martin one of these days.

  • @Bilderbergz I would have to agree with you, but I'm not sure Sukhoi will ever have the funding to reach its full potential.

  • @Bilderbergz That is, when? I respect the Russians, but ... Isn't the Su-35 their first fighter to surpass the F-15? And also. What about the F-15SE from Macdonald Douglass? Isn't that variant of the F-15 still slightly superior?

  • @Tyco200 SU27 is F15s counterpart but slightly less electronic advanced.....SU30MK is superior to F15....SU35 is far superior to F15....

  • that was awesome !

  • Koldness99 man 10 point for u.....u know what ur u talking about

  • @Sodcavardos and please remember the russians have that infared search and track system on the nose of their planes to lock on american jets when russian radar can't do so.

  • @EzaleaLinwelin Yea, but IRST is short range. It's too late by that time.

  • russia makes the best aircraft in the world

    and im from usa

  • su 35 can be used as a fuel tanker?! xD thats fuking sick. crazy but original

  • 5 antiship missiles?! what the fuck?! thats some heavy load right there

  • @ActiveStorage Not really. Here's a picture of an F-18 giving another F-18 a drink: strategypage. com/military_photos/military_p­hotos_2009040915451. aspx (remove the space after each period)

    Cool stuff.

  • @asusucks cool shit indeed. thanks for educational image. peace to yah and to this fucking planet

  • I likez the soundz

  • has a su-35 ever been in combat with the f-22?

  • @sorrow2590 How could a SU-35 be in Combat with an F-22 when USA don't want to put them in Service. They had build about 182 F-22's but never used one of it in Combat. Some People say that the F-22's are totaly useless against Russian and European 4.5 Generation Jets and can be shot down by them easily.

  • @SovjetPhoenix WTF? Of course the F-22 hasn't been used in combat, yet. It's an air-superiority plane, meaning it was built to take out other aircraft. And, when was the last time you saw the Taliban flying an aircraft? LOL.

    BTW, the F-22 did quite well in the UAE going undefeated in exercises against the Rafale, EF, later block F-16's, etc. No source has come out and said that theF-22 can be shot down easily.

  • @asusucks Proove it. There are no Videos about an F-22 in Combat. Talibans don't use Jets & Iraqis have no Jets anymore so where were F-22's used? All i heard is that the F-22's won in a Simulationfight but wasn't used in combat yet.

  • @SovjetPhoenix What I'm saying that of course it hasn't been used in combat. There have been no opportunities . Ever since it has entered service there has not been any combat A2A engagements. So you're right, it has not seen combat, but neither has the Su 30, 33, or 35. It doesn't mean that they can't. And, the F22 has done very well in exercises.

  • i agree this isn't a stealth plane due to the fact that the missiles are outside of the fuselage, the painting does not match with the sky, radar absorbant material isn't used, or any stealth information the f-22 has isn't on the su-35

  • esperemos k este avion legue a Venezuela como el su-30mk2

  • The F-22 is a combination of every fighter, it will jam any missle the SU-35 has.

  • They dontt even use the F-22. BTW F-22 is the only fighter jets in the world that gets escorts for missions. Is that how good it is? It is a fighter and it needs escorts?

  • What fighter needs an escort and for what mission?  You make no sense.

  • F-22 my friend.

  • N1cholas240

    Again you... :-) you think su-35 ?

    Su-35 BM uses several types of jammers... KNIRTI SAP-14 ESM pod 1-4Ghz

    KNIRTI SAP-518 ECM 5-18Ghz

    + internal ....

  • hope russia/soviet union rises again.

    tel::+44 07903232866

  • BUUUU!

  • Majka Rusija..greetings from Serbian brothers....Su 35 is one masterpiece ...nice and deadly...

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  • This video is from 2008, but the new stealth Su 35 flying the first time at the end of 2009. Its stealth, and its manouverable like the Su-37.

    F-22 don´t have a shance! Su-35 radar range is over 550 km ! and it detects stealth objects too.

  • "Chance" :) yeah the Sukhoi are best and maneuvering and everything!

  • So,....detect her radar from 550km away and shoot her down. She provides the homing signal (Radar beam)

  • whats the name of the audio

  • stealth is kinda useless now some country invented a technology using radio signals or tv signal (correct me if i am wrong ) to spot f22s ( i think it was china)

  • su-35 i love it

    and t-50 too!

  • fuck you uncle sam jejejeje

  • Well, the SU47 is just at prototype level. The US stopped building F22 and european military announced the Thyphoon will be the last MANNED figther craft. I think the russian plane will be excellent for the russians know how to build planes. But in the not to far future it will be all drones and electronic warfare because of that limiting human factor.

  • Just make a stealth variant of Sukhoi aircrafts and it will blow F35/22 out of the sky. Sukhoi rules. Sukhoi T50 pak fa will be the undisputed champion fighter of the next decades.

  • @vedg007 first of all, russias lack of technology scientists is hurting their military projects. 2nd, russias plasma stealth is pure myth. 3rd, if ever T-50 comes out in 2010 it will be in production after 10 years and in service in 2025. i wildly doubt T-50 would even be stealthier than F-22 to compare. lastly, it wont be a FSW plane like the SU-47. sorry folks for the distasteful reality, but thats reality.

  • @ganarzon First of all, all of what you said is just purely your opinion, so the words "reality" here is misplaced.

  • @Gforce000

    same reason why russia plans on buying french MISTRAL ship. aint that real enough for you?

  • @ganarzon If the T-50 isn't stealthier than the F-22 it would be sad. I mean the U.S. has had 5th gen stealth fighter designs flying since 1990. (YF-23 and YF-22). It has been shown that if a Russian aircraft comes out 10-20 years later that it will be better. F-15 vs Su-27 for example. The Su-27 came out around 10 years later i think and because of that gap it was a better aircraft. Same will most likely happen with the T-50.

  • It may not be more stealthier but is deadlier. Higher thrust to weight ratio, rate of climb, speed, more manuevrable design and 3d thrust vectoring plus longer range and it carries more weapons thus giving it an advantage in both missile kinematics and aerodinamic configuration. Regarding to the stealth part, the PAK FA is stealthy enought to make the AIM 120D of the F22 completly useless

  • @TheLightningII in fact russians give no shit about making things as stealthy as us makes it

  • lol at least the " russian junk" is better than that of the americans lol wow

  • @rvederis1991I would love to see it go up against the f22.. I like the Su-35 but let's be realistic here. Lockheed's budget was quite a bit heftier. With all those bombs and exposed missiles on the Su, it would be easy F22 meat.

  • @brentsrx7 well true, but don't forget:the work force and designers from Lockheed have bigger wages,so there's no wonder that the budget for the F22 was bigger. it's more important how you spend those money and on what than having a bigger budget and spend it on million of things that won't ever be used for that plane. just my 2 cents !

  • @brentsrx7 I would love to see that too .But i think this plane can create serious problems for the F22 . But then this is 4++ and F22 is 5th generation.

  • @alexton650 What would be interesting would be the silent eagle and this, they are the best of the Gen 4's.

  • Wow.. We Rusians r goood

  • Russians were alws good ^ ^. so are russian women

  • @Wast3m And Smirnoff vodka :)

  • @Wast3m Well, during the 1990s, yes. In the Cold-War, it seemed that the Russians had no care for their crews. :P Examples like the T-72.

  • @Wast3m have to agree.. Russian women are very good looking... and mature too! Wish I can get one ;(

  • @eretuev : You got that right !!! ;-))

  • @eretuev Have you seen the new laser weapon made America?? They tested it yesterday and it destroy aircraft missiles even morters in the air. I hope russia will now make some thing simmilar soon??

  • @pashtunnotpaki Thats what WE americans ALWAYS do and that is staying 10 steps ahead of russia and the rest of the world. While russia is just starting to test their new 5th generation fighter, we are ALREADY planning our 6th generation fighter. hahaha yet aggain russia lags behind the mighty USA.

  • @POPJack1717 Why, F-22 was outdated junk already when it was starting serial production. Spends too much time in repair shops, is painfully visible as soon as it opens the missile bays, has puny 2D-vectoring when Russian engines are standard 3D-vectored, too cluelessly modelled nacelles losing 30% of thrust. Hopefully the yanko 6-th gen will be as good as PAK-FA, but I have my doubts :)

  • @SovietWarrior the last I saw with the user name SovietWarrior actually lived in the US...LOL! Maybe those artist drawings and 1 prototype of the the T-50 will protect russia if you are attacked.

  • @SovietWarrior

    Really? And what qualifies you to render such an opinion little Russian troll?

  • @POPJack1717 please dont be stupid PAK FA is planned for 2014. and your ''ALREADY'' 6th generation is planned for around 2030. what do you think russia is doing in all those years? eating hamburgers? getting fat? sell some drugs? this is not even 1 step ahead with your ''10 steps'' ahead. give me a fucking break......

  • @eretuev Yeah. As an American I have to say the more Russia helps other countries fight against U.S. and Israeli imperialism the better.