Same way Tina turner has a slight accent as well from living in Europe for many years. Take your azz to England and live there for a long time, your accent will change, trust me.
The human condition is very fasninating, Ego can destroy many things,while inspiration can build empires. The struggles of this group could could apply to any groups who once were, this is not the only story where the record execs took 90% of revenue. One things rings true with all these stories... Nothing is promised,and things do end. Its paramount to embrace the goodtimes as if they can last forever when in reality they change with no warning. Fate must always lend its hand in Destiny.
gwen, the key is to not take yourself too seriously. you did. sad. the group, no offense but, you needed gwen and she needed you. she deserved more. compromise, dummies. why, oh why, does everybody get the big head and screw everything up? dumb dee dumb, dumb, dumb. all that talent and no brains. jobe, not on someone's deathbed. karma baby. you have all that talent. did a bid and still didn't learn. you can do it. let the bittnerness go. it'll kill you. i'm in my 50s, i'm just glad 2 b alive.
@renardeddave i found it kind of strange that AT FIRST she was speaking normally,but RIGHT AFTER,the guy brought up about her living in England,the accent suddenly appears....AWKWARD.....LOL
Just once, I would like to see a group like this actually like each other and not have ego problems once the group is broken apart. It always happens when virtual nobodys have this quick rise to stardom...they just can't handle instant fame.
it was about an image yes i remember the day the songs and um as a teenager working at a record shop i used to stare at gwen, or rose lol not the boys, thats they way it goes. rufus featuring chaka, get it, no and if they couldnt write the hits then walk,lol or learn to write.
One of my favorite groups ever.....Yes! The movie and soundtrack "Car Wash" OMG! I loved it. I can still see certain scenes and hear the song that was played. The twist and turns artist go through, Woww! Awesome documentary and awesome songs left for us to enjoy forever.
I am not sure why the years after gwen left were not mentioned! Rose Royce went on to release 6 studio albums, 5 with Ricci benson from 1980 thru 1987 and one with Lisa Taylor in 1989. Though these albums did not turn out to be as successful as their early albums, but they did produce many minor hits. All I can say is that apparently, the public associated Rose Royce with Gwen so much that the actual band faded in comparison.
Great Story... Very informative for those of us who enjoyed the hits but never knew anything about the band. My favorite Rose Royce song was "Ooh Boy!" To this day it lights me up.
The label gets 40% of the rest of it, mostly because of their control of distribution. If a band/group is LUCKY, they'll see 5-7 points on the rest of the sales. If you have a band that large, you might crack 250K on a platinum album. You make most of your money on shows. But there's no way I'm going into the industry as an artist unless I control my masters, my publishing, getting at least 25% royalties and at least 75% take on shows. Amazing people still going in not understanding this.
People still going into the industry not understanding how it works. Find out what points, royalties, publishing, distribution and how splits work. Bands and groups are never going to last long, because egos always supersede the interests of the group; particularly when you have the dynamics of the dissemination of the money.
50% always goes to producers off the top. If someone in a band/group produces, they'll get more, which causes resentment (see Wu-Tang/RZA and all other rap groups).
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This is more of a Gwen Dickey unsung! The other female singer who replaced her isn't even mentioned! I always understood that she left because she had airs and graces!
Personally, I agree with Kenny Copeland (32:17). I honestly believe that Gwen's manager called & demanded a huge percentage..it always happens...it's going to continue to happen, and that is what breaks up groups...
There is no more REAL music...meaning BANDS....only AutoTone & no talent.
@shydmples You're right. Bands or Groups just don't come around anymore unless they have already been one of the lucky to survive 2 decades like Dave Mathews Band, Sade, or U2. or if it is country. It's much easier to be solo to avoid this kind of potential heartbreak.
Kenneth Copeland was one of my favorite vocalist..he could hold his own as well. But they both created magic..Whitfield was doing what they call "branding" today. The "Rose" thing makes sense. Genius.
Interesting. I was surprised to see TVOne do an episode on RR. You don't hear them on radio much these days. Amazing story. Everybody has one, no matter how famous they were. I didn't realize Gwen moved to London but I can hear her accent changing back and forth.
On another note, it's sad but typical of the times that they went from one ruthless manager to another. Everyone knows Jerry Heller was as crooked a manager as they come.
@carmal1579 I worked with a lady whom I believe he took to their High School prom. Although they did not marry, it seems as though she had strong feelings for him til' he died.
I Love Rose!! Thanks Manyek. I am going to have a jam session tonight with a few music lovers!! :) I went to the do it yourself carwash today and this song was on the radio !!! lol
What is the name of the tune playing from 22:36 to 22:55?
diuga1 1 day ago
Gwen has a different accent.
jabmalassie 2 days ago
Gwen's smile just lights my life up, yo!
losrob27 2 days ago
Gwen looks great
jhpvids 6 days ago
Same way Tina turner has a slight accent as well from living in Europe for many years. Take your azz to England and live there for a long time, your accent will change, trust me.
bakismaki 1 week ago
I didnt realize they had so many good songs, and the singer was kinda sexy
bakismaki 1 week ago
They won't be Unsung if they weren't so jealous.
jambbar 1 week ago
The human condition is very fasninating, Ego can destroy many things,while inspiration can build empires. The struggles of this group could could apply to any groups who once were, this is not the only story where the record execs took 90% of revenue. One things rings true with all these stories... Nothing is promised,and things do end. Its paramount to embrace the goodtimes as if they can last forever when in reality they change with no warning. Fate must always lend its hand in Destiny.
Lively0101 2 weeks ago
gwen, the key is to not take yourself too seriously. you did. sad. the group, no offense but, you needed gwen and she needed you. she deserved more. compromise, dummies. why, oh why, does everybody get the big head and screw everything up? dumb dee dumb, dumb, dumb. all that talent and no brains. jobe, not on someone's deathbed. karma baby. you have all that talent. did a bid and still didn't learn. you can do it. let the bittnerness go. it'll kill you. i'm in my 50s, i'm just glad 2 b alive.
gghelo 2 weeks ago
Did anyone hear the British accent in her voice? I guess it's true about where you live to detemine how you speak! I love Rose Royse.
renardeddave 2 weeks ago
@renardeddave i found it kind of strange that AT FIRST she was speaking normally,but RIGHT AFTER,the guy brought up about her living in England,the accent suddenly appears....AWKWARD.....LOL
MsNocoincidence 2 weeks ago
@MsNocoincidence
it does
jhpvids 6 days ago
Gwen has lived in London for years-that is why she has the accent.
naimka1 1 month ago
What a great group, musically. NM orchestrated the tensions in the group. All the good groups break up. Ego, ego.
naimka1 1 month ago
Happy ending!
Aloebunny 1 month ago
damn mica paris sounds like gwen
macewindu67 1 month ago
Thank yo so much for uploading this!! I've been trying to find it online since it aired.
Aariestheory 1 month ago
She moved to London at a young age. She's lived there since. Did you watch the video?
buttholebzerker 1 month ago
Wow...had no idea about all the drama behind the group. But I'm happy they came together in the first place, and created masterpieces together.
jrors93 2 months ago
Just once, I would like to see a group like this actually like each other and not have ego problems once the group is broken apart. It always happens when virtual nobodys have this quick rise to stardom...they just can't handle instant fame.
70swunderkind 2 months ago 2
Gwen Dickey was bout it bout it.
benzz2006 2 months ago
Why does gwen have a slight british accent? She's from Florida lol
peachycalmable 2 months ago
@peachycalmable
she lived in the UK for 30 years. and being as that is where english comes from. it is gonna change ur inflections in that length of time.
skyjuiceification 3 weeks ago
With all due respect to Norman Whitfield(RIP), he was the main reason why Gwen Dickey was feeling herself a little too much.
saj8 2 months ago
That Jobe guy is hilarious without even trying! Just his delivery style makes everything he says sound comical.
kevin1278 2 months ago
that fake ass accent has to go
cs2cl 2 months ago
@cs2cl ~Agreed. She's from Biloxi, Mississippi trying to speak British...
kevin1278 2 months ago
@kevin1278 why do people like you always gotta make negative commets?
mrsexxc1 2 months ago
@kevin1278~Is what I said untrue? You must be guilty of speaking in a fake accent...
kevin1278 2 months ago
I'm sorry but that first picture of the crips had some fine black men in it. Sheesh
IamDottieDandridge 2 months ago
it was about an image yes i remember the day the songs and um as a teenager working at a record shop i used to stare at gwen, or rose lol not the boys, thats they way it goes. rufus featuring chaka, get it, no and if they couldnt write the hits then walk,lol or learn to write.
hipowerz 2 months ago
Call them egos if you want, but them egos want equality; and if more than one person, feels that way, its usually right.
KaishaLaSha83 2 months ago
As genius as Norman Whitfield is/was, he was a snake.
KaishaLaSha83 2 months ago
When I watch shows like "Unsung", it just shows me that, in terms of the music business, THE GAME HAS NOT CHANGED.
brentduanefoster 2 months ago
It wasn't the same without Gwen.
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One of my favorite groups ever.....Yes! The movie and soundtrack "Car Wash" OMG! I loved it. I can still see certain scenes and hear the song that was played. The twist and turns artist go through, Woww! Awesome documentary and awesome songs left for us to enjoy forever.
mssquirrely 3 months ago
I am not sure why the years after gwen left were not mentioned! Rose Royce went on to release 6 studio albums, 5 with Ricci benson from 1980 thru 1987 and one with Lisa Taylor in 1989. Though these albums did not turn out to be as successful as their early albums, but they did produce many minor hits. All I can say is that apparently, the public associated Rose Royce with Gwen so much that the actual band faded in comparison.
samjabo 4 months ago
ROSE ROYCE = CARWASH. The film would not have been the same. Love, love to all of you. Especially GWEN DICKEY!
greenivyhill 4 months ago
great story! another masterpiece, dziekuje slicznie!
AlexRaxwell 4 months ago
i'm really missing the last years, i.e. after 1980 which featured Ricci Benson. Together they released 4 albums which never got properly promoted imo
("Jump Street", "Stronger Than Over", "Music Magic" and "Fresh Cut". They should have featured that as well.
funkyswede62 4 months ago
Kenji is living happily ever after in New York,....just Chillin'
nickrome55 4 months ago
Yo they have some great Hitsss,,I want to be next to you, car wash, etc
ladylonda585 4 months ago
Great Story... Very informative for those of us who enjoyed the hits but never knew anything about the band. My favorite Rose Royce song was "Ooh Boy!" To this day it lights me up.
KeeWatts24 4 months ago
Gwen has the same pretend British accent as Tina Turner lmao. She probably started talking like that the first week she lived there
gdhdlvr 5 months ago 2
The label gets 40% of the rest of it, mostly because of their control of distribution. If a band/group is LUCKY, they'll see 5-7 points on the rest of the sales. If you have a band that large, you might crack 250K on a platinum album. You make most of your money on shows. But there's no way I'm going into the industry as an artist unless I control my masters, my publishing, getting at least 25% royalties and at least 75% take on shows. Amazing people still going in not understanding this.
TheEsquire212 5 months ago
People still going into the industry not understanding how it works. Find out what points, royalties, publishing, distribution and how splits work. Bands and groups are never going to last long, because egos always supersede the interests of the group; particularly when you have the dynamics of the dissemination of the money.
50% always goes to producers off the top. If someone in a band/group produces, they'll get more, which causes resentment (see Wu-Tang/RZA and all other rap groups).
TheEsquire212 5 months ago
This upload made my night!lol
IceManLikeGervin 5 months ago
@Manyek Do you have any more of these unsung episodes because I love this kinda music to death and Im a late 80s baby.
PopCulture20 5 months ago
Thanks for posting this...I loved the music of Car Wash especially "I Want To Get Next to You." That was my jam!!
dlastqueen 5 months ago
Gwen Dickey looks fantastic!!
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rahjwanti 6 months ago
Gwen got a little greedy smh and shame on Norman for not giving his musicians the proper loot
ninosimone 6 months ago 2
wow Mica Paris sounds likeGwen
ninosimone 6 months ago
This is more of a Gwen Dickey unsung! The other female singer who replaced her isn't even mentioned! I always understood that she left because she had airs and graces!
Elisabeth1903 6 months ago
"IS IT LOVE YOU'RE AFTER" was on the 4th Rose Royce album; and it was a total JAM!!
glasscitadel12 6 months ago
Personally, I agree with Kenny Copeland (32:17). I honestly believe that Gwen's manager called & demanded a huge percentage..it always happens...it's going to continue to happen, and that is what breaks up groups...
There is no more REAL music...meaning BANDS....only AutoTone & no talent.
shydmples 6 months ago 16
@shydmples You're right. Bands or Groups just don't come around anymore unless they have already been one of the lucky to survive 2 decades like Dave Mathews Band, Sade, or U2. or if it is country. It's much easier to be solo to avoid this kind of potential heartbreak.
benzz2006 2 months ago
@benzz2006 You hit the nail on the head with that one..very sad but true.
shydmples 2 months ago
@shydmples I agree
Lively0101 2 weeks ago
Hot damn.... I think I'm going to have to go watch Carwash again... :D
DUGMAC1973 6 months ago
In Holland, Gwen Dickey was NEVER considered as Rose, she was just Gwen.
Elisabeth1903 6 months ago
Gwen from Mississippi but got a brittish accent.
Dashiar 6 months ago 4
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DEKMAN99 6 months ago
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@Dashiar I like her brittish accent , she sound a little bit like Tina Turner. Who wants to sound like Gomer Pyle all their life??
DEKMAN99 6 months ago
Gwen seems crazy
3864267 6 months ago
Jobe look's like Pop Brown lol. Kenji was not apart of this? I wonder why.
BLAKPEARL69 6 months ago
@BLAKPEARL69
u aint chit fo dat lmaooo!
Dablkwid0w2008 6 months ago
@BLAKPEARL69 Jobe is still smokin crack like 90 mph
goin north,...stealing, lying and doing the same ol shit for years.
the cracks got him. hes really gone down talkin bout makin a comeback like that fool on the five heart beats,
eddie cain jr,...lol
for real
rasman222 4 months ago
@rasman222 lol night's like this i wish that rain drops would faaaalll. thanks for the info.
BLAKPEARL69 4 months ago
Glad to see Gwen she look's great!
BLAKPEARL69 6 months ago
Gwen Dickey is a boss! Recognize the real!
roscoegino 7 months ago 11
@roscoegino DAAAMN STR8!!!!
Tumekera 15 hours ago
Kenneth Copeland was one of my favorite vocalist..he could hold his own as well. But they both created magic..Whitfield was doing what they call "branding" today. The "Rose" thing makes sense. Genius.
unique74muzik 7 months ago 5
That live version of DO YOUR DANCE on Midnight Special is FIRE!!! wow!! somebody gotta upload that episode!!! #LosAngeles
unique74muzik 7 months ago
My Favorite Rose Royce song is "Love dont live here anymore" that song is timeless.
ebonycaramel 7 months ago 3
Interesting. I was surprised to see TVOne do an episode on RR. You don't hear them on radio much these days. Amazing story. Everybody has one, no matter how famous they were. I didn't realize Gwen moved to London but I can hear her accent changing back and forth.
On another note, it's sad but typical of the times that they went from one ruthless manager to another. Everyone knows Jerry Heller was as crooked a manager as they come.
cathridge 7 months ago
NOrman Whitfield is a genious for motown! RIP Norm. I wish I could have met him! I can respect good talent! :)
carmal1579 7 months ago
@carmal1579 I worked with a lady whom I believe he took to their High School prom. Although they did not marry, it seems as though she had strong feelings for him til' he died.
HWolfeIII 7 months ago
WOW I REALLY LOVED THIS! thanx so much for postn it!
40mbooh 7 months ago
thank you for uploading this ... and thank you TV one for making it.
PunkZeusRock 7 months ago
I Love Rose!! Thanks Manyek. I am going to have a jam session tonight with a few music lovers!! :) I went to the do it yourself carwash today and this song was on the radio !!! lol
What a coincidence!!!
carmal1579 7 months ago
OMG. thank you so much
grandnubianemeffa 7 months ago
So...whatever happened to Kenji??
detroitbuffalo 7 months ago
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Finally!!!! Now where is The Stacy Lattisaw Unsung?!!! lol
breaknbeat 7 months ago
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breaknbeat 7 months ago
Thank you so much for posting this. Much appreciated.
NubianFeenx 7 months ago
Thanks. That missing season for me!
UndergroundRaww 7 months ago
underrated
Shivante83 7 months ago
Thank you!!!
IamUrsula 7 months ago