I love to hear Arundhati Roy. At the end of her talk, she spoke about the 'tidiness' of suicide! Mankind is becoming infertile from radioactive fallout since 1945. The Fukushima meltdowns will accelerate sterility to depopulate the world in any case. Many scientists, professors etc. had to become whistleblowers to say it out loud. War has become antiquated, The issue is genetic integrity. There is no place to hide.
I understand that this is sometimes too hard too take but having, as a global people and those who govern us alike, neglected our moral to the core, right wing and left wing alike for different reasons surely altogether but with the same outcome however, whatever, the blow hits us hard in the face because the outcome is the same and while we are talking and neglecting our morals even more, bit by bit (bit is a sad and even gross in this context).
@mountainlinx the bitch has been living on spreading hatred against india but she has been exposed. She is supporting government corruption and ridiculing people's movement against corruption. Stupid bitch has no support from common people and can't even gather 50 common people and speak in their language. She can only speak in front of foreigners who love to hear this because of their hatred.
@ThinkingGuy100 It takes a true patriot to try and improve your home and make it great. She obviously wants India to be a better place. That doesn't make her a bitch.
@ThinkingGuy100 She wants to protect innocent people. You clearly don't understand what she is saying. Having people behind you doesn't mean anything.
@MetalMannequin that's a joke. She doesn't care about innocent people. She is just foolish and yet full of herself. She thinks the american government has sent 100K soldiers to afghanistan to fight taliban without knowing the meaning of taliban? What a dumb woman who doesn't even know how stupid she sounds. Only the hatemongers and ignorant people can't see her hypocrisy. The evil woman says maoism should spread and hatemongers/ignorants clap at this. Keep clapping at innocent people's death.
@MetalMannequin she can't live a simple life or gather 1000 disadvantaged people in her imaginary activism. And yet she criticizes leaders of mass movement like Anna Hazare. Why?
The much vilified Maoist would probably not be needed if it weren't for big corporations, backed by the government of India, throwing people out of their lands - all because of their greed for raw materials. This is very much like Colombia, where indigenous people are being thrown out of their homes, all so that corporations can get access to their resource rich land.
Someone should just shoot this mad cow and put an end to her rants. If she spoke this way in an Islamic country, she would have had a fatwa put on her head or just summarily been hanged. Had she opened her big "Marxist" mouth in China or Russia, she would have just disappeared without any trace. Only we Hindus are tolerant to her mad rants, and let her continue her anti-India tirades. I wish the Shiv Sena or VHP just shot her or burned down her house - for once I will appreciate Bal Thackeray.
I respect her free speech, but this is naive, and always supports the underdogs and always about rebellion against the oppressing powerful. On the contrary she never exercises the free speech to the underdogs because she is blind to their tyranny and they are not motivated by justice, sometimes even hate. So I really appreciate she gets the idea out but supporting and inciting violent means is just wrong. Arundhati has done her one sided research very well but fails to empathize fairly to all.
As morally and logically incoherent as she is preening and self-important. Writes one popular novel and parlays that into a career as a traveling wingnut celebutard. Her influence as a lefty covergirl evaporated when we no longer wanted to imagine her with her clothes off.
If the MAOISTS are so poor that they don't have proper food or houses then how do they buy the GUNS, LANDMINES, GRANEDS to kill the police? From where do they get support for those UNIFORMS, TRAINING CAMPS? IF they are Adivasi people who are totally cut off from modern civilization then how do they know about LENIN and MAO? DEFINATELY some people are providing them these things FOR YEARS!! REMEMBER what MAO said, "POWER FLOWS THROUGH THE BARREL OF A GUN".
If those 700,000 troops leave Kashmir then most of the "INDIAN Kashmiri" leaders would end up like LORD MOUNTBATTEN.
These troops are protecting Indian Sovereignty. If some people in your nation start a separatist movement on the basis of religion whats your government going to do? Invite Arundhati Roy?
@aparab82 Actually that did happen. They were called the IRA - and it was a similar movement in that the poor and the oppressed and the displaced joined it in order to release their frustrations. Our government (well, the British govt) responded using violence and it got us nowhere. Our island is in an even bigger mess than it was in the 70s. Govt sponsored violence is NEVER the right response.
@aparab82 I feel I must say that Roy does not involve herself in violence, nor does she attempt to instigate it. What she does, as far as I can see, is document the struggles of the poor, the problems in india and worldwide and attempt to understand and to share her understanding. How exactly is that a "bad" thing?
1. She is Indian - she talks mainly about Indian issues. I talk more about Irish issues as I am Irish, that does not mean I don't care about people suffering in Tibet or Chechnya.
She doesn't just talk about Indian issues. She also talks about Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Al Queda, Hamas... Clearly these issues are not at all related to India. You can see it in this video. She only talks about american invasion of Afghanistan but NOT about Russian invasion of Afghanistan. If she can talk about these issues even though they are not related to India, then why can't she talk or write a word about Tibet or Chechnya?
Do you know what is happening in Xinjiang state of China? Google for following - "Ethnic Unrest in Xinjiang, Uighurs Lament their Lost Homeland, China Nearly Doubles Security Budget for Xinjiang"
I have not seen Arundhati Roy talking or writing about that. Why doesn't she write about enormous number of Chinese troops who have occupied Xinjiang? If she calls India a "FAKE DEMOCRACY" because 700,000 troops have occupied Kashmir then why doesn't she call China a FAKE COMMUNIST?
@aparab82 That sounds terrible - but unfortunately one person CANNOT advocate on behalf of every oppressed people, it is impossible. Roy is doing a good job, I believe - why not start advocating on behalf of the people of Xinjiang???
Of course China is "fake communist", I agree with you. It always has been - nobody who truly understood communism would believe that a dictatorship could be communism. As I said, nobody can cover the breadth of the oppression and violence in the world.
I am not forcing you to agree with my views. I believe that you have every right to present your views. But that is not the issue here. the issue is that Arundhati Roy presents "Selective Facts". More than 300,000 Kashmiri Hindus were forced to leave their homes in Kashmir. They have been living in Refugee Camps in Their OWN COUNTRY. The ones who didn't leave most of them were Brutally Killed.
Now these people cannot go back to their homes because some Islamic Fanatics who started the separatist movement wouldn't let them come back. Kashmir has been an integral part of India, historically and Culturally. Search "Kashmiri Pandits" on Wikipedia. Still she says that Kashmir was NEVER an integral part of India. If India was a Fake Democracy, she would probably have been thrown in jail for saying that.
So, as you are Irish and you talk about Irish issues And I Respect that, l too advocate on behalf of my fellow countrymen. Because it seems to me that the intellectuals are quite busy advocating about other issues since nobody can cover the breadth of the oppression and violence in the world.
@aparab82 Well maybe you should ask her? I can't state on behalf of another person why they choose to say one thing and not another - perhaps it has something to do with the fact that she seems some acts as being more important and part of the cause as opposed to the effect. Perhaps it has something to do with her political sympathies. The Americans have invaded countless countries on many continents in the last 50 yrs. The Russians are not as prolific.
@aparab82 2. I'm not sure if she never talks about them. I can't recall any particular incidences but I am not her biographer - I just like a lot of her work. However, I am pretty sure that if there were 700000 troops in any area of 10milliion people, there would be plenty of retaliatory violence. When a government instigates an occupation of that size in any region, inevitably there is violent retaliation - their home is being occupied by troops!
@aparab82 By the way, here is the friends of Tibet page with a quote from Arundhati Roy mentioning both Chechnya AND Tibet as occupied territories, so it seems that maybe YOUR OWN biases are getting in the way here?
“America believes that Iraq can be occupied and colonised like Tibet has been, like Afganistan has been, like Chechnia has been, like East-Timor once was and Palestine still is.”
@aparab82 that's as idiotic as it gets. Those weapons that you put in capital words, as if they have advance weapons and lots of them. Go read and do a little research how much they have and hwta are they fighting iwht. Just because indian army is incompetent does not mean that your enemies have more weapons. considering your history you shouldve realized by now that your enemies have balls and you guys dont.
@rwpla You are the one who needs to do the research. Its NOT the Indian army, its the paramilitary force. Those coward naxalites are hiding behind poor villagers. Thats why this operation is taking time. And you are an idiot if you don't know that Indian army is the fourth largest army in the world And it has shown its bravery in all the wars. So you better check your history.
I love to hear Arundhati Roy. At the end of her talk, she spoke about the 'tidiness' of suicide! Mankind is becoming infertile from radioactive fallout since 1945. The Fukushima meltdowns will accelerate sterility to depopulate the world in any case. Many scientists, professors etc. had to become whistleblowers to say it out loud. War has become antiquated, The issue is genetic integrity. There is no place to hide.
theroyprocess 3 months ago
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@theroyprocess yes, you would love to here it if you love violence
ThinkingGuy100 3 months ago
b*tch
ThinkingGuy100 6 months ago
I understand that this is sometimes too hard too take but having, as a global people and those who govern us alike, neglected our moral to the core, right wing and left wing alike for different reasons surely altogether but with the same outcome however, whatever, the blow hits us hard in the face because the outcome is the same and while we are talking and neglecting our morals even more, bit by bit (bit is a sad and even gross in this context).
mountainlinx 8 months ago
@mountainlinx the bitch has been living on spreading hatred against india but she has been exposed. She is supporting government corruption and ridiculing people's movement against corruption. Stupid bitch has no support from common people and can't even gather 50 common people and speak in their language. She can only speak in front of foreigners who love to hear this because of their hatred.
ThinkingGuy100 6 months ago
@ThinkingGuy100 It takes a true patriot to try and improve your home and make it great. She obviously wants India to be a better place. That doesn't make her a bitch.
MetalMannequin 4 months ago
@MetalMannequin it takes a true devil to dream of killing innocents. She wants india to be the worse place otherwise people would be behind her
ThinkingGuy100 4 months ago
@ThinkingGuy100 She wants to protect innocent people. You clearly don't understand what she is saying. Having people behind you doesn't mean anything.
MetalMannequin 4 months ago
@MetalMannequin that's a joke. She doesn't care about innocent people. She is just foolish and yet full of herself. She thinks the american government has sent 100K soldiers to afghanistan to fight taliban without knowing the meaning of taliban? What a dumb woman who doesn't even know how stupid she sounds. Only the hatemongers and ignorant people can't see her hypocrisy. The evil woman says maoism should spread and hatemongers/ignorants clap at this. Keep clapping at innocent people's death.
ThinkingGuy100 4 months ago
@MetalMannequin she can't live a simple life or gather 1000 disadvantaged people in her imaginary activism. And yet she criticizes leaders of mass movement like Anna Hazare. Why?
ThinkingGuy100 4 months ago
The much vilified Maoist would probably not be needed if it weren't for big corporations, backed by the government of India, throwing people out of their lands - all because of their greed for raw materials. This is very much like Colombia, where indigenous people are being thrown out of their homes, all so that corporations can get access to their resource rich land.
toseeornot2see 10 months ago
I love her!!!
inder19852000 1 year ago
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Someone should just shoot this mad cow and put an end to her rants. If she spoke this way in an Islamic country, she would have had a fatwa put on her head or just summarily been hanged. Had she opened her big "Marxist" mouth in China or Russia, she would have just disappeared without any trace. Only we Hindus are tolerant to her mad rants, and let her continue her anti-India tirades. I wish the Shiv Sena or VHP just shot her or burned down her house - for once I will appreciate Bal Thackeray.
pistachioguy 1 year ago
I respect her free speech, but this is naive, and always supports the underdogs and always about rebellion against the oppressing powerful. On the contrary she never exercises the free speech to the underdogs because she is blind to their tyranny and they are not motivated by justice, sometimes even hate. So I really appreciate she gets the idea out but supporting and inciting violent means is just wrong. Arundhati has done her one sided research very well but fails to empathize fairly to all.
kaushiksays 1 year ago
this is a bitch who should be banished from india once and for all.
MrEventhorizon 1 year ago
@MrEventhorizon
As morally and logically incoherent as she is preening and self-important. Writes one popular novel and parlays that into a career as a traveling wingnut celebutard. Her influence as a lefty covergirl evaporated when we no longer wanted to imagine her with her clothes off.
pinz2022 1 year ago
If the MAOISTS are so poor that they don't have proper food or houses then how do they buy the GUNS, LANDMINES, GRANEDS to kill the police? From where do they get support for those UNIFORMS, TRAINING CAMPS? IF they are Adivasi people who are totally cut off from modern civilization then how do they know about LENIN and MAO? DEFINATELY some people are providing them these things FOR YEARS!! REMEMBER what MAO said, "POWER FLOWS THROUGH THE BARREL OF A GUN".
aparab82 1 year ago 2
@aparab82 So then I guess the guns that the 700,000 Indian troops in Kashmir are armed with is where the power is???
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
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aparab82 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
If those 700,000 troops leave Kashmir then most of the "INDIAN Kashmiri" leaders would end up like LORD MOUNTBATTEN.
These troops are protecting Indian Sovereignty. If some people in your nation start a separatist movement on the basis of religion whats your government going to do? Invite Arundhati Roy?
aparab82 1 year ago 5
@aparab82 Actually that did happen. They were called the IRA - and it was a similar movement in that the poor and the oppressed and the displaced joined it in order to release their frustrations. Our government (well, the British govt) responded using violence and it got us nowhere. Our island is in an even bigger mess than it was in the 70s. Govt sponsored violence is NEVER the right response.
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
Even Mahatma GANDHI fought for the Poor and Oppressed. But he NEVER justified the Violence committed by the Poor and the Oppressed.
The fault of Arundhati Roy is that she NEVER condemns the Violence Committed by the Poor and Oppressed. Instead she Dignifies it.
aparab82 1 year ago
@aparab82 I feel I must say that Roy does not involve herself in violence, nor does she attempt to instigate it. What she does, as far as I can see, is document the struggles of the poor, the problems in india and worldwide and attempt to understand and to share her understanding. How exactly is that a "bad" thing?
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
I am not happy to see people dying. But I don't like people who talk about humanity and then write biased views.
1. She Always talks about Indian takeover of Kashmir but she NEVER talks about CHINESE takeover of TIBET Or RUSSIAN takeover of CHECHNYA.
2. She NEVER talks about the killings of Kashmiri HINDUs who were Brutally killed by So called Kashmiri Freedom Fighters.
3. The poor Naxalites from Indian Forrests are responsible for over 6000 murders and many rape cases.
aparab82 1 year ago
@aparab82
1. She is Indian - she talks mainly about Indian issues. I talk more about Irish issues as I am Irish, that does not mean I don't care about people suffering in Tibet or Chechnya.
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
She doesn't just talk about Indian issues. She also talks about Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Al Queda, Hamas... Clearly these issues are not at all related to India. You can see it in this video. She only talks about american invasion of Afghanistan but NOT about Russian invasion of Afghanistan. If she can talk about these issues even though they are not related to India, then why can't she talk or write a word about Tibet or Chechnya?
aparab82 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
Do you know what is happening in Xinjiang state of China? Google for following - "Ethnic Unrest in Xinjiang, Uighurs Lament their Lost Homeland, China Nearly Doubles Security Budget for Xinjiang"
I have not seen Arundhati Roy talking or writing about that. Why doesn't she write about enormous number of Chinese troops who have occupied Xinjiang? If she calls India a "FAKE DEMOCRACY" because 700,000 troops have occupied Kashmir then why doesn't she call China a FAKE COMMUNIST?
aparab82 1 year ago
@aparab82 That sounds terrible - but unfortunately one person CANNOT advocate on behalf of every oppressed people, it is impossible. Roy is doing a good job, I believe - why not start advocating on behalf of the people of Xinjiang???
Of course China is "fake communist", I agree with you. It always has been - nobody who truly understood communism would believe that a dictatorship could be communism. As I said, nobody can cover the breadth of the oppression and violence in the world.
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
I am not forcing you to agree with my views. I believe that you have every right to present your views. But that is not the issue here. the issue is that Arundhati Roy presents "Selective Facts". More than 300,000 Kashmiri Hindus were forced to leave their homes in Kashmir. They have been living in Refugee Camps in Their OWN COUNTRY. The ones who didn't leave most of them were Brutally Killed.
aparab82 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
Now these people cannot go back to their homes because some Islamic Fanatics who started the separatist movement wouldn't let them come back. Kashmir has been an integral part of India, historically and Culturally. Search "Kashmiri Pandits" on Wikipedia. Still she says that Kashmir was NEVER an integral part of India. If India was a Fake Democracy, she would probably have been thrown in jail for saying that.
aparab82 1 year ago
@sarahjanehall1313
So, as you are Irish and you talk about Irish issues And I Respect that, l too advocate on behalf of my fellow countrymen. Because it seems to me that the intellectuals are quite busy advocating about other issues since nobody can cover the breadth of the oppression and violence in the world.
aparab82 1 year ago
@aparab82 Well maybe you should ask her? I can't state on behalf of another person why they choose to say one thing and not another - perhaps it has something to do with the fact that she seems some acts as being more important and part of the cause as opposed to the effect. Perhaps it has something to do with her political sympathies. The Americans have invaded countless countries on many continents in the last 50 yrs. The Russians are not as prolific.
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@aparab82 2. I'm not sure if she never talks about them. I can't recall any particular incidences but I am not her biographer - I just like a lot of her work. However, I am pretty sure that if there were 700000 troops in any area of 10milliion people, there would be plenty of retaliatory violence. When a government instigates an occupation of that size in any region, inevitably there is violent retaliation - their home is being occupied by troops!
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@aparab82 ... I'm not saying it's right but it is an inevitable consequence! If the violence is to stop, the troops have to pull out...simple as.
3. Every group has murderers and rapists - I'm confused as to how this is relevant.
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@aparab82 By the way, here is the friends of Tibet page with a quote from Arundhati Roy mentioning both Chechnya AND Tibet as occupied territories, so it seems that maybe YOUR OWN biases are getting in the way here?
“America believes that Iraq can be occupied and colonised like Tibet has been, like Afganistan has been, like Chechnia has been, like East-Timor once was and Palestine still is.”
Arundhati Roy
sarahjanehall1313 1 year ago
@aparab82 that's as idiotic as it gets. Those weapons that you put in capital words, as if they have advance weapons and lots of them. Go read and do a little research how much they have and hwta are they fighting iwht. Just because indian army is incompetent does not mean that your enemies have more weapons. considering your history you shouldve realized by now that your enemies have balls and you guys dont.
rwpla 4 months ago
@rwpla You are the one who needs to do the research. Its NOT the Indian army, its the paramilitary force. Those coward naxalites are hiding behind poor villagers. Thats why this operation is taking time. And you are an idiot if you don't know that Indian army is the fourth largest army in the world And it has shown its bravery in all the wars. So you better check your history.
aparab82 4 months ago
one of the most important voices in our time
newsfrombelow 1 year ago