Want to know why there has never been an attempt to prosecute this lady on the grounds of slander ? Yeah, that's right...The shit would hit the fan for McCain and he knows it. The same reason there is incriminating evidence of his collaborating with the enemy under lock and key at the Vietnam War Museum in Hanoi. That white boy that tries to seem so confident, but is actually no more brave than a bowl full of quivering Jello.
By the way Patty Hopper is also known as Patty Skelly she is a known liar and she is far from a expert in pow data bases. She had a affair with Col. Hopper for some years while he was still married to one Betty Hopper. The mother of Earl Hopper Jr. Who was MIA until a couple of years ago when his remains where found. They still lie about this so many years later?
John McCain had affairs. So, if affairs are the yardstick of credibility... Don't get mad, do the homework, and either prove of debunk her statements. She speaks in a good deal of detail - surely there is something in there that can be either verified or debunked. Cite your source - make a credible argument.
McCain is a war hero. Go get yourself captured and tortured until you can't raise your arms and then see how that works out for you. Read the Articles of Conduct while you're at it.
Oh spare us the bs. this is all propaganda bullshit lies. The man was tortured denied proper medical care his arms to this day are he can't even raise over his head. Why? because they tortured him morons.
Why can't McCainn raise his arms over his head ? It sure has nothing to do with torture. The dumbass busted them up because he didn't eject properly. The man trashed five jets, it's no wonder he couldn't even follow proper ejection training.
Soilder, Sailors, or which ever woman or man in a branch have to follow orders that we may not agree with, but we follow them with the hopes of defending our families. Do I think war is a good answer? No. But until we can find a better answer from whoever becomes president. We have to deal with war. I believe one day war will never pain our world again. We will get there. It will take time. But yes you all do not have to respect our two senators running for president. I do. No matter who wins.
We have to be very careful with any of these 'true stories', either in this format or in the ads run by the parties (sorry Mrs. Hopper, I'm not calling you a liar) as just because some ones says they are some one with information doesn't mean they aren't actors. It might be true, but equally it might be crap
These bloody idiots who attack Barack Obama or John McCain with baseless "facts" disgust me. Obama is not a closet terrorist nor is John McCain a traitor. Both are just a lot more liberal on spending than I'm comfortable with. Have respect for Senators who prior to office, go off and fight in a foreign countries or work in ghettos to promote a better life.
why should we respect someone for fighting in a foriegn country? john mccain has admitted he is a war criminal for killing women and children in his bombing of north vietnam.
Why aren't these facts about John McCain in the public domain? McCain trashes Obama on his association with William Ayers, yet 99 percent of the people of America don't know these truths about McCain.
More videos Shepardswatch doesn't want you to see. Videos also explain the official Vietnam POW hasn't been released becaused of *somebody* and the videos explain who's that *somebody* and why. Rumore has said that the official info includes the 32 propaganda(for the north, not US) audio clips McCain took part in.
I cant find these videos ,anyone can make a video just like this women and say anything but facts are facts and Ive checked and none of these claims are documented to be true not one come up with something at least true lol this is to funny what if i told you Obama is really Osama
John Sidney McCains Silver Star citation that hangs on his office wall reads in part: For resisting extreme mental/physical cruelties and refusal to surrender confidential information.But wait a minute...He DID surrender confidential information.Odd that!!
Its interesting that this women claims the imformation that Mccain was a traitor came from her stepson Earl Hopper Jr .Many of you think she is saying her son shared a cell with mccain The truth is if you google her son he was listed as MIA and was killed He never shared a cell or camp with Mccain and this women is bitter still .John Mccain is not responsible for her sons death and the allegations that he is a traitor are completely a fabrication .R.I.P Earl P Hopper
The only source people need to be looking at is Johns Military accommodations and records .The US Military does not award accommodations for being a traitor they discipline anybody that has been in the military knows this ,If any of this had a shade of truth john mccain would of hid in shame not stayed in public spot light all these years this is crazy for these people to believe this ,why dont you check out this hopper guy this women in video talks of and see what his record is
The question is which Country Obama doesnt seem to care much for America ,So why run for president of a country he hated ,I think Americans need to question this look a little deeper
i dont need to research anything I know the truth first hand I know people that served with john and i know the facts not the lies this person is spreading
This person isn't the only one saying this. You can find other videos McCain's cell mates, Vietnamese prison guard etc. who back this lady at least part of it. While other side of the story was told mostly by McCain himself.
You are basically saying "It's a lie because I don't like what I'm hearing."
If you know something proves that this lady is lying, please post.
This women is a fraud and should be ashamed of herself for the lies she is stating here If you dont believe John Mccain was tormented and tortured ,look at his injury he still carry s today and listen to the real men that served with him and the medals and accommodations he received .John McCain Kept the mitary code of conduct He gave up nothing this women is the step mother of those that did shame on you
This is a bunch of lies this women is a liar and slandering a Good Man , John Mccain never gave up any imformation John Mccain could of gone home earlier if he complied and he refused to leave until his time . every word this women spoke is a lie who the hell is she ,she is nobody but a hater on a agenda probably not even a us citizen anyoe can make a video and put on youtube so it must be true right lol
Ahem.News agencies won't discuss this type of subject matter because of a bill where POW's who collaborated with the enemy had their records white~washed which in turn could lead to slander lawsuits if they were to bring it up.NOT because this gal has no credibility.
You buying into the "hero" nonsense shows that you are just a gullible,media embracing,dipstick,that is nothing more than a bandwagon rider.Who in their right mind would be silly enough to vote a traitor into the office of President of The United States?People...just...like...you.
Please show where you got this information. Do you have documents backing up your statements? Please cite sources. This information needs to get out before the election.
I'll tell you what bubba,I'll go one step further for ya'.Name me ONE ex~POW who went through LESS than what your good ol' boy "Free Pass McCain" did before he caved.
Oh geez.Another bleeding heart (probably a McCain plant)that says "It's okay to violate the POW Code of Conduct time and again"."McCain is our man,how dare anyone attack his character"."He was tortured and for you to speak out against him(even by using McCains own admissions)you are evil".
You claim that other POWs know about McCains "treason" but will not speak up due to "what stays in the camp." Not only do you lie about John McCain but you also drag fellow US soldiers that were in the camp with him through the mud as well by saying that they know about crimes but will not say anything about them. What a bunch of complete BS. Get a life. I wonder how well you would have held up as a POW for years and years of your life. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Day claims he escaped after being "hung upside down and severely tortured for two days." He said that despite being "barefooted, severely crippled, disoriented, vomiting blood" and with no equilibrium, he outran enemy soldiers and their tracking dogs for two days before being captured again. Day said he managed to escape again outrunning the enemy and their dogs for nearly two weeks before he was captured a third and final time.
How can she says this crap when the man was bayoneted in the groin when he was found with broken arms. He was tortured the minute they found him and left to bleed and suffer from his wounds. Lady you are a sick human being. You have no evidence for which you speak about his giving American secrets. For all you know he could have been giving false info. George Bud Day who is the most decorated war hero in US history says John McCain is a hero and he is credible and you are not!
Bud Day even leaves question marks.He said he was severely injured yet was able to out run soldiers and their dogs for two days BAREFOOT?What?He's Superman?
*Propaganda radio broadcasts and transcripts=In the custody of Voice of America and the Vietnam War Museum in Hanoi.
*McCain himself admitted to providing classified information in his 1973 U.S. News & World Report article.You take me to the hosp.and I'll give you info.They did,and he did.
The enmy didn't have clue as to who McCain's father was until they started spanking that a##. He gave up his daddy's name and said if you get me medical treatment I will give info. So the rest is history.He gave up more than his name,rank and serial number or DOB as someone else said.McCain sold his soul a long time ago.He doesn't give a shit about this country just like he didn't give a shit when he was POW.
It is slowly coming out about McShame's military activities. In his speach thursday night he added a little more to his sorry a## pow story. He admitted that he broke and signed a document. Now he need to fess up on the 32 tapes he did. I know if I was writing a book about myself ,and that i have political asperations I would leave out all the traitor parts.McCain is a computer illiterate. He didn't realize that there is info out there at the touch of a key to bust his old a##.
He finally admitted he broke and signed confession documents. His nickname was songbird. I remember him being led around with a blindfold on by the vietamese. Go to veterans against John McCain. If he loved his country so much why was he collaborating with the enemy. Most pow's would have died than give out classified information. But McCain was a punk. Yeah country first my a##.In his case was save thy own a##.All McCain has to do is unseal his military records and put this to rest.
If you got bayoneted in the groin and left to bleed from your wound and had two broken arms I wonder what you would have done you joke of human being.
"Collaborator"?? Interesting... guess that explains why he walks with a limp and can't lift his arms over his head. You know how those collaborators are treated and all.
So John McCain was promoted to Lt. Commander, then stated he was Lt. Commander and she thinks that is wrong. She thinks he should be a captain. Glad we got her opinion. And of course she was an eye witness to McCain offering info to the enemy. I guess that he did that in front of a lot of guys.
the truth hurts sometimes when what your told to believe is different from what is factual. Its better to be a good American than a good republician or democrat.
Ask Col. Bud Day, congressional medal of honor winner, and FORMER cell mate at the Hanoi Hilton what he thinks about John McCain....you will get an entirely different story from this stupid woman!
Day says that he knows where McCain was and what he was doing while a POW.How is that possible?McCain himself said that he was tortured in solitary confinement.Even Days time while a POW is rather shady.He said he outran patrols and their dogs for 2 days while severly injured and barefoot?Odd that!!
I find it interesting that Bud Day won the Medal of Honor without witnesses, other than McCain, and verifies information about McCain that was supposedly done to him in isolation. Ask yourself, why was he (Day) assigned to 'nurse' McCain back to health and has since been tied to his hip? Lastly ask yourself this, why are the only visible injuries to McCain those he received while ejecting from his stricken craft if he was so badly tortued?
Who is this stupid "expert" woman? Where did she get her "facts"? I'm betting 100 to 1 that she has drank the Kool-Aid and supports that Arab-American who can't even provide a valid birth certificate let alone any other documentation! I'm no McCain man, but I did serve in Vietnam as an Infantry officer on 2 occassions. It really pisses me off to listen to someone running down a Vietnam Vet that was never there...so BUG OFF lady before you get the entire retired corp of ex-military on your ass!
I can not believe that American Citizens still think there is a Dichotomy between Candidates, or some great battle of the Titans going on in two party political System.
Has'nt anyone been paying attention to all the past Voting Corruption Scandals involving Diebold machines & Electronic voting.
Your great Decider Presidents are chosen for you way in advance.
The Elitists Obama, Bush, Clinton, Busch, McCain are related, all Blue bloods.
The State of Oregon Alone, is holding Elections Fair.
Listen, John McCain may not have been my first choice for the presidential slot, but compared to the options, he's about as good as it gets. Electing a prejudiced idiot savant like Obama will nearly guarantee bloodshed in the nation. I will have my weapons until I've taken out at least quite a few of any morons trying to enforce any law that directly contradicts the constitution. You libelous liberal morons, I already have you in my sights................
It is rather hilarious that McCain supporters are giving thumbs down to commentary left by those who care to see the truth whereas they themselves are running with blinders on.You people need to wake up.
If McCain essentially spat in the face of America to get better treatment I dread to think of what he would be capable of if placed in the White House.(get's a chill)Brrr.
Wow. Did your Daddy tell ya that? You forgot DOB. Yes, that is the Code of Conduct for US POW's and as per the Geneva Convention. You think you could stick to that under NVA torture? Tell me what name, rank, serial number, and DOB terrorists like an Abdul Mohammed has these days? Tell me what communist country ever agreed to or complied with the Geneva Convention?
Color it anyway you care to alright4u,but he sold out.The "real" initial info he surrendered was given with no toture involved.Have you read the 1973 US NEWS & WORLD REPORT article written by McCain.I have!!
He "voluntarily" gave up classified military info including the fact that his father was CINPAC in exchange for preferential treatment and that is somehow ok?Forget the propaganda radio broadcasts and videos.
Well,that information is wrong.He told his captors just days after his initial capture "If you'll take me to a hospital I will give you "real" information.They did,and he did.Not to mention the 30+ propaganda radio broadcasts and the 30+ propaganda videos he made for the enemy.
Not only did they take him to doctor,they took him to a military hospital which was essentially unheard of.Why did they allow him to be placed there?He told them who daddy was!!Didn't you even listen to what this gal is saying?It is all based on McCain own article.
He NEVER told them who his father was. They found out on their own. When they asked him for the names of his brigade, he gave them the Packers linemen. McCain is an American hero. I READ Faith of my fathers (and watched the movie as well), so don't tell me.
LOL @ "Faith of my fathers".That movie was a farce.Have you read the article he wrote for USNAWR?You really should,it's available online.Are you disputing the propaganda videos and radio broadcasts as well?
And the Packers "story"?He can't even keep that straight!!One time it is the Packers,another time it is the Steelers.Which one is it Mr. McCain.Make up your mind please.
It was both. The North Vietnamese gave him a radio to listen to the NFL games. So McCain got familiar with the names of the Steel Curtain. This is the logical choice.
While campaigning in Pennsylvania, McCain told the crowds while interrogated, he gave the names of the Steelers (Steel Curtain). Hello, the steelers didn't become a good team, until the mid 70's and this is after McCain became a POW. Maybe Hanoi Hilton wasn't so bad after all, did the Vietnamese provide short wave radio to McCain to listen in to NFL games or else how did he know their names in captivity.
30+ propaganda videos,30+ propaganda radio broadcasts,traded classified information in exchange for preferential treatment and that makes him honorable and a hero?He violated the Code of Conduct so many times and that is acceptable?Not in MY book.
Please tell me about these tapes. What classified info did he divulge to the enemy? What kind of preferential treatment did he receive? What codes of conduct did he break?
You have a lot of condemnations with out producing any substance. I will take George (Bud) Day's opinion of John McCain over yours and this crazy lady any day.
Name,rank,serial number and d.o.b is what POW's are to provide,nothing more.
What preferential treatment?When taken to a hospital where was he taken?To a hosp. reserved for officers ONLY.Yeah,that's right.Thereafter he was treated as and referred to as "The Prince".
Who told you that McCain informed them that his father was Admiral? Where do you get this information? Do you have friends in the Hanoi Hilton? You are less than credible. You are DESPICABLE!
John McCain told the whole nation the Viet Cong broke him and made him do things he wasn't proud of and said numerous times that there is a confession in Vietnam that he was a war criminal. For you to slander the man in the way you have is a disgrace. You would roll over on your mother after receiving the abuse he took. You are a sad person.
You are a liar. He didn't tell the Vietnamese his father was an Admiral. They found this out after they got his name rank and serial number you dirty lying scumbag.
Your a despicable human being trying to tarnish a man who served his country and was tortured for it and to come home and get this kind of treatment is just sad and speaks to your character.
Oh yeah,I've gotten used to that defensive stance long ago in reference to McCain.You think you are the first?You think I would just run around hither dee ditherty making the statements that I do.I researched McCain out of curiosity and if you and others like yourself want to run with blinders on,oh well.
Your "research" drags heroes through the mud with 0 proof. Please tell me where I can find this proof that I have my "blinders" on about. I have looked into all these slanders and can find no proof only allegations and those that served with McCain do not back up any of the lies your spreading.
Question,have you read the U.S. News & World report article?Did you watch McCain's acceptance speech when he said in reference to his time as a POW "I broke",but then failed to elaborate?Have you not questioned why McCain would still wish to have his military record remain sealed during this the highlight of his career?
He asked to be taken to a hospital because he thought he was dying.He cracked.You read wrong or you are just trying to support your own opinions.The North Vietnamese COULD NOT access that kind of information.Are you out of your mind to even suggest such drivel?
He never tells them his father is high ranking as you claim liar! The Veit Cong had friends called Russia and China you piece of garbage! Spreading more BS I see with your"The North Vietnamese COULD NOT access that kind of information". You have NO idea what your talking about and parrot BS you have heard. Keep it coming and we will keep debunking your lies and suppositions.
Ok,so the Russians and China had internet access and trolled around until they found that McCain father was CINCPAC.Or was it spies that they had in the U.S.
The Russians and Chinese had the names of high ranking military personal. I see now that you are a child as you can't imagine information distribution before the internet. I now feel foolish arguing with someone who has yet to get their wiener wet. It is sad that a little boy would come on here and spread disinformation the way you have. I hope you get drafted one of these days.
When I referenced the net it was meant as a sarcastic remark.Geez,I have a winner here.Drafted?I don't think their gonna want a 47 year old.A little late for me to get thrown into the mix wouldn't you say?.Pfft
Hell yeah he asked for a hospital he was bayoneted had two broken arms one that was broken in multiple places and a broken leg that nearly killed him and a busted shoulder you scumbag.
Why don't you tell the world how tough you are and how you would hold out under the torture he received while having the injuries that he had at the time.
You can be guaranteed that there were men who held out after enduring much worse,but since it is good ol' boy McCain that makes it all good and fine?He gets a free pass?I don't think so.I'm not saying that he may not have been tortured.Not for a minute.He caved,period.
Name those men little boy. He doesn't get a pass he gets CREDIT for bleeding on a foreign battle field for his country and enduring what no human being should. You have no HONOR! While John McCain has HONOR and now he will have GLORY after Nov. 4th.
Hahahahahaha...Oh man,that's rich.Voluntarily giving up classified information and participating in the creation and distribution of propaganda justifies honor?
Hahahahahaha...What an odd land it is you live in bubba.
You still haven't answered my question little boy. Who are these men that endured more torture than McCain and didn't break? Other than the letter of war crimes what propaganda did McCain give his torturous captors?
The land I live in is America where military personal are treated with respect after going through what Senator McCain went through. Where dumb shits like you can spout BS because people like John McCain made it safe for you to do so. That's were I live boy.
How did McCain make it safe?.. America was under no threat whatsoever from the vietnamese.. U.S miitary creates the wars in the first place.. war is big business with a lot of money to be made.. its the ordinary man who pays for it!
John McCain severed his countries call to duty in the military and public service.
"America was under no threat whatsoever from the Vietnamese."
Perhaps you do not believe in the "Domino theory" but leaders on both sides of the fight did.
"U.S military creates the wars in the first place"
The US military creates 0 wars. US politicians create wars. Some are worth fighting more than others but we live in a Republic and politicians make the calls until election day.
Wake up to yourself.. Vietnam was a diversion war.. It was the conscripted slaughter of young Americans for what?.. So what happened after america lost the war in vietnam and had to do the largest fighting withdraw in history ?.. did the vietnamese continue to be a threat after the war?.. no because they never were a threat.. The military industrial complex creates wars not politicians dumbass :)
Stop making yourself look like an ass by useing something I miss typed. You're a liar and a little prick. Your story about CIA tapes is BS. Your story about what McCain told US News and World report BS. Your story on George "Bud" Day is BS. Your story about John McCains service to his country is BS.
In short you are full of shit. Keep laughing little prick while real men do the hard work.
Hahahaha..temper,temper,temper,now.Don't blow your cool.Oh,I never did tell you so I thought I really should.I am the son of a father who served in WWII,Korea and Vietnam.I have attended many conventions and gatherings of veterans and have met MANY war heroes and heard their war stories.John McCain?Does he meet "hero" criteria?Oh hell no,are you kidding me!?
He gave up information that led to 60% more aircraft being shotdown. He basicly killed US pilots by giving up this information. How would anybody call someone who did this a Hero?
Rennee I have read many of your posts I have one question for you. Have you served in the military for the USA and what capacity did you serve which branch and during which conflicts?
Actually Ill ask one more Have you ever been captured tortured as a P.O.W ? If your answer is no and Im sure it is than shut the hell up you have no right to sit in Judgment over anybody .Chances are you would never put a uniform on and serve this country .
Have I served?No.Captured and tortured as a POW?No.I've said it before and I'll say it again just for you."I am the son whos father served in WWII,Korea and Vietnam.I have met TRUE war heroes and McCain is NOT one.He is a traitor.My father,at 90 years old,despises John Mccain as much as I.
As far as me shutting up Shepard?Well,you can just place that notion where the sun doesn't shine.I said it once,I say it twice.Even if a POW broke there comes a time when that individual would have to say enough is enough.But good ol' boy Johnny played along BIG TIME repeatedly.
Your wrong and your to stupid to know why or even look for the truth you are just spreading bs and anybody that has served can tell you dont know shit about honor your father at 90 is probably senile and cant even remember You claim John Mccain broke , The truth is you were not there and either was I or any other of these idiots so Know one knows if he did or didn't this is just a smear The Us gov doesn't think he gave up any info that's good enough for me
I don't know shit about honor?You don't know shit from apple butter.Trying to gloss over the facts that good ol' boy Johnny is nothing more than a treasoness ass gets you nowhere with me boyo.He should consider himself lucky that he is even welcome in MY country,let alone be able to run for the highest office in our nation.
Well, Silver Star recipient Jim Howie Warner is a former Marine Corps naval flight officer who was shot down on Oct. 13, 1967 and spent more than five years in harrowing North Vietnamese prisons with John McCain. And though Warner is upfront about his many disagreements with McCain on political issues, he utterly rejects the secret traitor story.
Pure BS video. Not a Swinging Richard who was ever a POW with McCain would agree. And this witch writes for task force Omega? Flight paths change by OPS. You are a witch.
Breath in the truth alright4u.You may not like it,but the truth abounds against your "hero" McCain.He is a traitor and commited treason against the U.S.
Don't feel bad.All the other supporters of McCain's have a hissy fit when they hear this info too.Some people just can't stand to have their visions diminished.Oh well!!
but what about Bud Day the guy that sead he seen join mccain beeing tortured and not giveing up and then saying I will not go home with out all of these men??
I agree with you that he may have down it but I sill have some dissagrement...
Yep after sponsering this defense bill provision he is the worst american that has ever lived.
orange70383 1 month ago
Okay so McCain is a traitor and Obama is a Muslim terrorist. EVERYBODY WINS
darknight13 1 year ago
Want to know why there has never been an attempt to prosecute this lady on the grounds of slander ? Yeah, that's right...The shit would hit the fan for McCain and he knows it. The same reason there is incriminating evidence of his collaborating with the enemy under lock and key at the Vietnam War Museum in Hanoi. That white boy that tries to seem so confident, but is actually no more brave than a bowl full of quivering Jello.
ReneeNme 1 year ago
By the way Patty Hopper is also known as Patty Skelly she is a known liar and she is far from a expert in pow data bases. She had a affair with Col. Hopper for some years while he was still married to one Betty Hopper. The mother of Earl Hopper Jr. Who was MIA until a couple of years ago when his remains where found. They still lie about this so many years later?
vindicato15 2 years ago
John McCain had affairs. So, if affairs are the yardstick of credibility... Don't get mad, do the homework, and either prove of debunk her statements. She speaks in a good deal of detail - surely there is something in there that can be either verified or debunked. Cite your source - make a credible argument.
GorillaDesperado 2 years ago
McCain is a war hero. Go get yourself captured and tortured until you can't raise your arms and then see how that works out for you. Read the Articles of Conduct while you're at it.
xiaogoudelaohu 2 years ago
shut the fuck up! he is not a traitor u old hag
stephentylerman 3 years ago
I am registered Rep and John Mcshitstain is the main reason I voted Obongo.
meangiy 3 years ago
This woman was not a POW and has no right to talk as she was not there. She is not a happy person and misery loves company..pathetic!
aubreyheath 3 years ago
google "mccain prison prostitutes"
whisperingpaddle 3 years ago
i hate the fucking VietCong ! Fuck the VietCong ! Fuck Cong San Viet Nam
mrlonelyfuck 3 years ago
Lots of he said unsubstantiated statements.
This I know; Senator John McCain made it out alive to fight another day. That's pretty damn good.
And I don't think air routes over Vietnam were used on a routine basis or pattern basis. Do you really think our Air Force is that dumb?
I don't think that the Viet Cong possessed weapons that could reach high altitude.
Senator McCain will make a good President.
knightmascara 3 years ago
John McCains military record is sealed: why is that? As a presidential candidate, shouldn't there be full disclosure?
Air Routes are called package routes. Waypoints are established for navigation purposes. They are secret to prevent aircraft from being shot down.
If the Vietcong did not possess anti-aircraft, how did they shoot down so many of our aircraft?
What did his fellow airmen have to say about him?
GorillaDesperado 3 years ago
Oh spare us the bs. this is all propaganda bullshit lies. The man was tortured denied proper medical care his arms to this day are he can't even raise over his head. Why? because they tortured him morons.
vindicato15 2 years ago
Why can't McCainn raise his arms over his head ? It sure has nothing to do with torture. The dumbass busted them up because he didn't eject properly. The man trashed five jets, it's no wonder he couldn't even follow proper ejection training.
ReneeNme 2 years ago
@vindicato15 FACT: McCain can't raise his arms over his head because he injured them when he punched out (ejected) of his jet.
AudaciousSounds 1 year ago
He was a fucking coward trying to save himself at the expense of others. Thank God he lost 2008! McCain was a fucking trader.
winecrafter 3 years ago
Wow.. uhh im pretty sure you are wrong...
first of all, the media is trying to portray mccain as a crappy war hero because it is extremely liberal...
second, he never worked to help the north vietnamese... that is your own (well and the media's) fabricated story to try to bring McCain down..
Check your facts, dont just take someone's word for it.. its called bias for a reason.
Laius2 3 years ago
you r dumb u liberal slut
wiidude90 3 years ago
Soilder, Sailors, or which ever woman or man in a branch have to follow orders that we may not agree with, but we follow them with the hopes of defending our families. Do I think war is a good answer? No. But until we can find a better answer from whoever becomes president. We have to deal with war. I believe one day war will never pain our world again. We will get there. It will take time. But yes you all do not have to respect our two senators running for president. I do. No matter who wins.
alf7a 3 years ago
This is filthy swiftboating of the lowest kind.
waltereg0 3 years ago
We have to be very careful with any of these 'true stories', either in this format or in the ads run by the parties (sorry Mrs. Hopper, I'm not calling you a liar) as just because some ones says they are some one with information doesn't mean they aren't actors. It might be true, but equally it might be crap
mrbearbear83 3 years ago
These bloody idiots who attack Barack Obama or John McCain with baseless "facts" disgust me. Obama is not a closet terrorist nor is John McCain a traitor. Both are just a lot more liberal on spending than I'm comfortable with. Have respect for Senators who prior to office, go off and fight in a foreign countries or work in ghettos to promote a better life.
alf7a 3 years ago
why should we respect someone for fighting in a foriegn country? john mccain has admitted he is a war criminal for killing women and children in his bombing of north vietnam.
lqrgiant 3 years ago
Why aren't these facts about John McCain in the public domain? McCain trashes Obama on his association with William Ayers, yet 99 percent of the people of America don't know these truths about McCain.
truthformeandyou 3 years ago
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comunist pig how dary you white trash
Whore why dont you go to north nam and see how life realy is
beingther 3 years ago
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Tell me why he cant lift his arms if he was not tortured
beingther 3 years ago
When he ejected from his plane he did not hold his arms in and therefore broke them.He is a traitor
VERYBIGDOGS 3 years ago
so he's a traitor because he broke his arms? dummy!
serptdoves1 3 years ago
no because he gave information to the veitnamess and the rate of planes going down went up 60%
evilryutaropro 3 years ago 3
Discousting comunist pig how dary you white trash
Whore why dont you go to north nam and see how life realy is
beingther 3 years ago
how much is obama paying you
beingther 3 years ago
Obama wants to teach kindergarteners sex ed thats sick I wonder if this drug addict that
Lived in skid row did he teach sex to kids then too
Teach I meant instead of being taught how to spell in school; I was taught how to have sex with my teacher
beingther 3 years ago
no it was a program to protect kindergartners from pedophiles
TheMarovan 3 years ago
watch?v=6s7kEb6Osqc
watch?v=AXjWguoFbpI
More videos Shepardswatch doesn't want you to see. Videos also explain the official Vietnam POW hasn't been released becaused of *somebody* and the videos explain who's that *somebody* and why. Rumore has said that the official info includes the 32 propaganda(for the north, not US) audio clips McCain took part in.
allgoo19 3 years ago
I cant find these videos ,anyone can make a video just like this women and say anything but facts are facts and Ive checked and none of these claims are documented to be true not one come up with something at least true lol this is to funny what if i told you Obama is really Osama
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
John Sidney McCains Silver Star citation that hangs on his office wall reads in part: For resisting extreme mental/physical cruelties and refusal to surrender confidential information.But wait a minute...He DID surrender confidential information.Odd that!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Its interesting that this women claims the imformation that Mccain was a traitor came from her stepson Earl Hopper Jr .Many of you think she is saying her son shared a cell with mccain The truth is if you google her son he was listed as MIA and was killed He never shared a cell or camp with Mccain and this women is bitter still .John Mccain is not responsible for her sons death and the allegations that he is a traitor are completely a fabrication .R.I.P Earl P Hopper
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
The only source people need to be looking at is Johns Military accommodations and records .The US Military does not award accommodations for being a traitor they discipline anybody that has been in the military knows this ,If any of this had a shade of truth john mccain would of hid in shame not stayed in public spot light all these years this is crazy for these people to believe this ,why dont you check out this hopper guy this women in video talks of and see what his record is
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
Truly Shocking isn't it. Country First??? I think not.
Vote for Change!
Obama|Biden 2008!
obamawins08 3 years ago
The question is which Country Obama doesnt seem to care much for America ,So why run for president of a country he hated ,I think Americans need to question this look a little deeper
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
the people are not his cell mates they don't evan know him they are part of swift boat same idiots that derailed John kerry
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
Shepardswatch:
Would like to share the source of your information? Videos?
allgoo19 3 years ago
i dont need to research anything I know the truth first hand I know people that served with john and i know the facts not the lies this person is spreading
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
Shepardswatch:
This person isn't the only one saying this. You can find other videos McCain's cell mates, Vietnamese prison guard etc. who back this lady at least part of it. While other side of the story was told mostly by McCain himself.
You are basically saying "It's a lie because I don't like what I'm hearing."
If you know something proves that this lady is lying, please post.
allgoo19 3 years ago
*You are basically saying "It's a lie because I don't like what I'm hearing."
That whole reply pretty much says it all,it is safe to say.Shepard wants to have it his way.Sounds abit like a child having a tantrum.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
This women is a fraud and should be ashamed of herself for the lies she is stating here If you dont believe John Mccain was tormented and tortured ,look at his injury he still carry s today and listen to the real men that served with him and the medals and accommodations he received .John McCain Kept the mitary code of conduct He gave up nothing this women is the step mother of those that did shame on you
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
Research subject matter,then judge.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
This is a bunch of lies this women is a liar and slandering a Good Man , John Mccain never gave up any imformation John Mccain could of gone home earlier if he complied and he refused to leave until his time . every word this women spoke is a lie who the hell is she ,she is nobody but a hater on a agenda probably not even a us citizen anyoe can make a video and put on youtube so it must be true right lol
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
Research subject matter,then judge.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Do you know why the news agencies don't talk to her?
She has low no creditability.
shortfist 3 years ago
Ahem.News agencies won't discuss this type of subject matter because of a bill where POW's who collaborated with the enemy had their records white~washed which in turn could lead to slander lawsuits if they were to bring it up.NOT because this gal has no credibility.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
This woman should be interviewed on every major news channel. John McCain is a traitor to his country. He is not a hero. He is a disgrace.
StupidVds 3 years ago
You buying into the "hero" nonsense shows that you are just a gullible,media embracing,dipstick,that is nothing more than a bandwagon rider.Who in their right mind would be silly enough to vote a traitor into the office of President of The United States?People...just...like...you.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Please show where you got this information. Do you have documents backing up your statements? Please cite sources. This information needs to get out before the election.
JCGMich29 3 years ago 2
Jane McCain/John Fonda
ReneeNme 3 years ago
1buckeyeNation: Other than the letter of war crimes what propaganda did McCain give his torturous captors?
*30+ propaganda videos in the custody of the CIA.
*30+ radio broadcasts in the custody of Voice of America and the Vietnam War Museum in Hanoi.
*Why won't McCain have his military record unsealed at this his shining moment of his career?
ReneeNme 3 years ago 3
Clocks ticking!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
I'll tell you what bubba,I'll go one step further for ya'.Name me ONE ex~POW who went through LESS than what your good ol' boy "Free Pass McCain" did before he caved.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Oh geez.Another bleeding heart (probably a McCain plant)that says "It's okay to violate the POW Code of Conduct time and again"."McCain is our man,how dare anyone attack his character"."He was tortured and for you to speak out against him(even by using McCains own admissions)you are evil".
ReneeNme 3 years ago
You claim that other POWs know about McCains "treason" but will not speak up due to "what stays in the camp." Not only do you lie about John McCain but you also drag fellow US soldiers that were in the camp with him through the mud as well by saying that they know about crimes but will not say anything about them. What a bunch of complete BS. Get a life. I wonder how well you would have held up as a POW for years and years of your life. You should be ashamed of yourself.
AngryNJ1971 3 years ago
This gal is speaking about facts based on McCains own USNAWR article as well.So she is a liar too then I suppose?Rigggggggght!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Day claims he escaped after being "hung upside down and severely tortured for two days." He said that despite being "barefooted, severely crippled, disoriented, vomiting blood" and with no equilibrium, he outran enemy soldiers and their tracking dogs for two days before being captured again. Day said he managed to escape again outrunning the enemy and their dogs for nearly two weeks before he was captured a third and final time.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
So trying to discrediting McCain isn't enough you go and drag the most decorated military man in history through the mud too. You are a DISGRACE!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
How can she says this crap when the man was bayoneted in the groin when he was found with broken arms. He was tortured the minute they found him and left to bleed and suffer from his wounds. Lady you are a sick human being. You have no evidence for which you speak about his giving American secrets. For all you know he could have been giving false info. George Bud Day who is the most decorated war hero in US history says John McCain is a hero and he is credible and you are not!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Crazy.Dillusional.Old.Bitch
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
I guess vetsagainstmccain are a bunch of "Crazy.Dillusional.Old.Bitches/Bastards" too then,eh' 2ndAmend?
Whatever.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
The most decorated veteran(George Bud Day)in American history is credible and he says McCain is a HERO!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Bud Day even leaves question marks.He said he was severely injured yet was able to out run soldiers and their dogs for two days BAREFOOT?What?He's Superman?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Your a joke!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
*Propaganda videos= in the custody of the CIA.
*Propaganda radio broadcasts and transcripts=In the custody of Voice of America and the Vietnam War Museum in Hanoi.
*McCain himself admitted to providing classified information in his 1973 U.S. News & World Report article.You take me to the hosp.and I'll give you info.They did,and he did.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
So you haven't heard the tapes or seen transcripts and you make these allegations. What a great American you are.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
And "I am a joke".
Okaaaaaaay!!
:s
ReneeNme 3 years ago
I say again you are a JOKE!
But not a very funny joke just a sad joke.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
This woman knows shit.
incrediblehulkmovies 3 years ago
What does that mean movies?That comment could go either way.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
The enmy didn't have clue as to who McCain's father was until they started spanking that a##. He gave up his daddy's name and said if you get me medical treatment I will give info. So the rest is history.He gave up more than his name,rank and serial number or DOB as someone else said.McCain sold his soul a long time ago.He doesn't give a shit about this country just like he didn't give a shit when he was POW.
postaldriver 3 years ago
It is slowly coming out about McShame's military activities. In his speach thursday night he added a little more to his sorry a## pow story. He admitted that he broke and signed a document. Now he need to fess up on the 32 tapes he did. I know if I was writing a book about myself ,and that i have political asperations I would leave out all the traitor parts.McCain is a computer illiterate. He didn't realize that there is info out there at the touch of a key to bust his old a##.
postaldriver 3 years ago
He finally admitted he broke and signed confession documents. His nickname was songbird. I remember him being led around with a blindfold on by the vietamese. Go to veterans against John McCain. If he loved his country so much why was he collaborating with the enemy. Most pow's would have died than give out classified information. But McCain was a punk. Yeah country first my a##.In his case was save thy own a##.All McCain has to do is unseal his military records and put this to rest.
postaldriver 3 years ago
If you got bayoneted in the groin and left to bleed from your wound and had two broken arms I wonder what you would have done you joke of human being.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
"Collaborator"?? Interesting... guess that explains why he walks with a limp and can't lift his arms over his head. You know how those collaborators are treated and all.
This video is a JOKE!
McCain/Palin 08!!!
redstate82 3 years ago
He injured his arms by not tucking his elbows when he ejected.Hello!!Even he admitted to the stupid mistake.He's an idiot!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
He broke his arm after the plane crashed.
In camp he got special treatment.
watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
watch?v=6s7kEb6Osqc
DrunkenGekko 3 years ago
OMG it's rjl2000 down below.Oh he who knows a little of next to nothing.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
So John McCain was promoted to Lt. Commander, then stated he was Lt. Commander and she thinks that is wrong. She thinks he should be a captain. Glad we got her opinion. And of course she was an eye witness to McCain offering info to the enemy. I guess that he did that in front of a lot of guys.
ethyl2008 3 years ago
Haha...this lady is a joke! How much you think the DNC paid her? LOL!
rjl2000 3 years ago
McCain...
30+ Propaganda videos made for the enemy=In the custody of the CIA.
30+ Radio Broadcasts made for the enemy=Recordings and transcripts in the custody of Voice of America and the Vietnam War Museum in Hanoi.
Gave "real" classified info=In exchange for preferential treatment.
McCain is afforded what we are not.=His military records are sealed.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
poppy cock!! McCain is a true patriot
fear 3 people
osama,obama and chelseas' mama!!! lol
gpav72 3 years ago
the truth hurts sometimes when what your told to believe is different from what is factual. Its better to be a good American than a good republician or democrat.
rckennedy 3 years ago
Ask Col. Bud Day, congressional medal of honor winner, and FORMER cell mate at the Hanoi Hilton what he thinks about John McCain....you will get an entirely different story from this stupid woman!
rayinnc 3 years ago
Day says that he knows where McCain was and what he was doing while a POW.How is that possible?McCain himself said that he was tortured in solitary confinement.Even Days time while a POW is rather shady.He said he outran patrols and their dogs for 2 days while severly injured and barefoot?Odd that!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
I find it interesting that Bud Day won the Medal of Honor without witnesses, other than McCain, and verifies information about McCain that was supposedly done to him in isolation. Ask yourself, why was he (Day) assigned to 'nurse' McCain back to health and has since been tied to his hip? Lastly ask yourself this, why are the only visible injuries to McCain those he received while ejecting from his stricken craft if he was so badly tortued?
NuBN247 3 years ago
Who is this stupid "expert" woman? Where did she get her "facts"? I'm betting 100 to 1 that she has drank the Kool-Aid and supports that Arab-American who can't even provide a valid birth certificate let alone any other documentation! I'm no McCain man, but I did serve in Vietnam as an Infantry officer on 2 occassions. It really pisses me off to listen to someone running down a Vietnam Vet that was never there...so BUG OFF lady before you get the entire retired corp of ex-military on your ass!
rayinnc 3 years ago
McCain can not be a Traitor.
To be a Traitor, he would of had to have an allegiance to America.
Just like the Bush Crime family, he has been programmed from birth to believe he is Special, Royalty, above the common man, a Blue Blood.
His Allegiance has always been to the Queen, the Robber Barons, the Bankers and the Corporate Elite.
And just like the Puppet Bush, McCain will do exactly as his FASCIST Blue Blood Masters tell him
Destroy America & drag it's Citizens into the New World Order
jcdinform 3 years ago
I can not believe that American Citizens still think there is a Dichotomy between Candidates, or some great battle of the Titans going on in two party political System.
Has'nt anyone been paying attention to all the past Voting Corruption Scandals involving Diebold machines & Electronic voting.
Your great Decider Presidents are chosen for you way in advance.
The Elitists Obama, Bush, Clinton, Busch, McCain are related, all Blue bloods.
The State of Oregon Alone, is holding Elections Fair.
NaziPrescottBush 3 years ago 2
great response; accurate name - LOL
peacesurpassingall 3 years ago
Listen, John McCain may not have been my first choice for the presidential slot, but compared to the options, he's about as good as it gets. Electing a prejudiced idiot savant like Obama will nearly guarantee bloodshed in the nation. I will have my weapons until I've taken out at least quite a few of any morons trying to enforce any law that directly contradicts the constitution. You libelous liberal morons, I already have you in my sights................
IzaBluByU 3 years ago
McCain is a hero?To me that is a slap in the face of TRUE war heroes.McCain sold out,long story short.
ReneeNme 3 years ago 2
It is that kind of nonchalant attitude that got us where we are today with good ol' Dubya.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
It is rather hilarious that McCain supporters are giving thumbs down to commentary left by those who care to see the truth whereas they themselves are running with blinders on.You people need to wake up.
ReneeNme 3 years ago 2
If McCain essentially spat in the face of America to get better treatment I dread to think of what he would be capable of if placed in the White House.(get's a chill)Brrr.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Name,rank and serial number sound familiar?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Wow. Did your Daddy tell ya that? You forgot DOB. Yes, that is the Code of Conduct for US POW's and as per the Geneva Convention. You think you could stick to that under NVA torture? Tell me what name, rank, serial number, and DOB terrorists like an Abdul Mohammed has these days? Tell me what communist country ever agreed to or complied with the Geneva Convention?
alright4u 3 years ago
Color it anyway you care to alright4u,but he sold out.The "real" initial info he surrendered was given with no toture involved.Have you read the 1973 US NEWS & WORLD REPORT article written by McCain.I have!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
I do not read Vets Against a POW. Sick.
Imagine you were the NVA and captured the son of CINCPAC?
Yes, the son of the Commander of all US forces in the Pacific.
Use your head.
alright4u 3 years ago
You say you are a vietnam vet and support McCain?
He "voluntarily" gave up classified military info including the fact that his father was CINPAC in exchange for preferential treatment and that is somehow ok?Forget the propaganda radio broadcasts and videos.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
He gave up no such information....and the vietnamese found out about his father on their own.
Gook14 3 years ago
Don't know where you are getting your facts from Gook14.He admitted to it in the 1973 article that he himself wrote for U.S. News & World Report.
ReneeNme 3 years ago 2
After being tortured for days, he said "I'm a black criminal, I bomb schools, etc". That's it. McCain is no traitor.
Gook14 3 years ago
Well,that information is wrong.He told his captors just days after his initial capture "If you'll take me to a hospital I will give you "real" information.They did,and he did.Not to mention the 30+ propaganda radio broadcasts and the 30+ propaganda videos he made for the enemy.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Not only did they take him to doctor,they took him to a military hospital which was essentially unheard of.Why did they allow him to be placed there?He told them who daddy was!!Didn't you even listen to what this gal is saying?It is all based on McCain own article.
ReneeNme 3 years ago 2
He NEVER told them who his father was. They found out on their own. When they asked him for the names of his brigade, he gave them the Packers linemen. McCain is an American hero. I READ Faith of my fathers (and watched the movie as well), so don't tell me.
Gook14 3 years ago
LOL @ "Faith of my fathers".That movie was a farce.Have you read the article he wrote for USNAWR?You really should,it's available online.Are you disputing the propaganda videos and radio broadcasts as well?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
And the Packers "story"?He can't even keep that straight!!One time it is the Packers,another time it is the Steelers.Which one is it Mr. McCain.Make up your mind please.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
That was a one time mix up, for God sake. It's in his book, it's in his movie. It was the Packers.
Gook14 3 years ago
It was both. The North Vietnamese gave him a radio to listen to the NFL games. So McCain got familiar with the names of the Steel Curtain. This is the logical choice.
whyicare 3 years ago
While campaigning in Pennsylvania, McCain told the crowds while interrogated, he gave the names of the Steelers (Steel Curtain). Hello, the steelers didn't become a good team, until the mid 70's and this is after McCain became a POW. Maybe Hanoi Hilton wasn't so bad after all, did the Vietnamese provide short wave radio to McCain to listen in to NFL games or else how did he know their names in captivity.
whyicare 3 years ago
That had better be some darn good to reception to get NFL games in Hanoi. You lack any credibility at all.
Gook14 3 years ago
It was the Packers not the Steelers.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
30+ propaganda videos,30+ propaganda radio broadcasts,traded classified information in exchange for preferential treatment and that makes him honorable and a hero?He violated the Code of Conduct so many times and that is acceptable?Not in MY book.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Please tell me about these tapes. What classified info did he divulge to the enemy? What kind of preferential treatment did he receive? What codes of conduct did he break?
You have a lot of condemnations with out producing any substance. I will take George (Bud) Day's opinion of John McCain over yours and this crazy lady any day.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Name,rank,serial number and d.o.b is what POW's are to provide,nothing more.
What preferential treatment?When taken to a hospital where was he taken?To a hosp. reserved for officers ONLY.Yeah,that's right.Thereafter he was treated as and referred to as "The Prince".
ReneeNme 3 years ago
He told them Daddy was CINPAC in overall charge of forces in the Pacific.Man,haven't you researched this subject matter at all?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Who told you that McCain informed them that his father was Admiral? Where do you get this information? Do you have friends in the Hanoi Hilton? You are less than credible. You are DESPICABLE!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Who told me?Well that IS rich.John McCain told me in his self composed U.S. News & World Report article.Hello!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
John McCain told the whole nation the Viet Cong broke him and made him do things he wasn't proud of and said numerous times that there is a confession in Vietnam that he was a war criminal. For you to slander the man in the way you have is a disgrace. You would roll over on your mother after receiving the abuse he took. You are a sad person.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
So for me to speak the truth makes me slanderous.That's an interesting concept you have going on there.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
No truth in you LIAR!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Read it again liar!
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
You are a liar. He didn't tell the Vietnamese his father was an Admiral. They found this out after they got his name rank and serial number you dirty lying scumbag.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Your a despicable human being trying to tarnish a man who served his country and was tortured for it and to come home and get this kind of treatment is just sad and speaks to your character.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Oh yeah,I've gotten used to that defensive stance long ago in reference to McCain.You think you are the first?You think I would just run around hither dee ditherty making the statements that I do.I researched McCain out of curiosity and if you and others like yourself want to run with blinders on,oh well.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Your "research" drags heroes through the mud with 0 proof. Please tell me where I can find this proof that I have my "blinders" on about. I have looked into all these slanders and can find no proof only allegations and those that served with McCain do not back up any of the lies your spreading.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Question,have you read the U.S. News & World report article?Did you watch McCain's acceptance speech when he said in reference to his time as a POW "I broke",but then failed to elaborate?Have you not questioned why McCain would still wish to have his military record remain sealed during this the highlight of his career?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
His time in that "preferential hospital" you call it nearly killed him you lying scumbag.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
He asked to be taken to a hospital because he thought he was dying.He cracked.You read wrong or you are just trying to support your own opinions.The North Vietnamese COULD NOT access that kind of information.Are you out of your mind to even suggest such drivel?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
He never tells them his father is high ranking as you claim liar! The Veit Cong had friends called Russia and China you piece of garbage! Spreading more BS I see with your"The North Vietnamese COULD NOT access that kind of information". You have NO idea what your talking about and parrot BS you have heard. Keep it coming and we will keep debunking your lies and suppositions.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Ok,so the Russians and China had internet access and trolled around until they found that McCain father was CINCPAC.Or was it spies that they had in the U.S.
Alright,some 007 action.Now we're talkin'.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
The Russians and Chinese had the names of high ranking military personal. I see now that you are a child as you can't imagine information distribution before the internet. I now feel foolish arguing with someone who has yet to get their wiener wet. It is sad that a little boy would come on here and spread disinformation the way you have. I hope you get drafted one of these days.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
When I referenced the net it was meant as a sarcastic remark.Geez,I have a winner here.Drafted?I don't think their gonna want a 47 year old.A little late for me to get thrown into the mix wouldn't you say?.Pfft
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Hell yeah he asked for a hospital he was bayoneted had two broken arms one that was broken in multiple places and a broken leg that nearly killed him and a busted shoulder you scumbag.
Why don't you tell the world how tough you are and how you would hold out under the torture he received while having the injuries that he had at the time.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
You can be guaranteed that there were men who held out after enduring much worse,but since it is good ol' boy McCain that makes it all good and fine?He gets a free pass?I don't think so.I'm not saying that he may not have been tortured.Not for a minute.He caved,period.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Name those men little boy. He doesn't get a pass he gets CREDIT for bleeding on a foreign battle field for his country and enduring what no human being should. You have no HONOR! While John McCain has HONOR and now he will have GLORY after Nov. 4th.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Honor?McCain?
Hahahahahaha...Oh man,that's rich.Voluntarily giving up classified information and participating in the creation and distribution of propaganda justifies honor?
Hahahahahaha...What an odd land it is you live in bubba.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Are you that shallow to suggest that others endured worse than McCain and that some had even died rather than do what he had done?
Well that's just downright selfish.You ARE giving McCain a free pass.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
*Didn't endure worse!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Name some names liar! What no more war heroes for you to drag through the mud like you have Bud Day and John McCain?
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Boy?Aw c'mon,is that the best you can do bubba?
ReneeNme 3 years ago
All I want from you is names. No more assumptions as you are just making an ASS of yourself.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
You still haven't answered my question little boy. Who are these men that endured more torture than McCain and didn't break? Other than the letter of war crimes what propaganda did McCain give his torturous captors?
The land I live in is America where military personal are treated with respect after going through what Senator McCain went through. Where dumb shits like you can spout BS because people like John McCain made it safe for you to do so. That's were I live boy.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
How did McCain make it safe?.. America was under no threat whatsoever from the vietnamese.. U.S miitary creates the wars in the first place.. war is big business with a lot of money to be made.. its the ordinary man who pays for it!
YouToobPresident 3 years ago 2
"How did McCain make it safe?"
John McCain severed his countries call to duty in the military and public service.
"America was under no threat whatsoever from the Vietnamese."
Perhaps you do not believe in the "Domino theory" but leaders on both sides of the fight did.
"U.S military creates the wars in the first place"
The US military creates 0 wars. US politicians create wars. Some are worth fighting more than others but we live in a Republic and politicians make the calls until election day.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Wake up to yourself.. Vietnam was a diversion war.. It was the conscripted slaughter of young Americans for what?.. So what happened after america lost the war in vietnam and had to do the largest fighting withdraw in history ?.. did the vietnamese continue to be a threat after the war?.. no because they never were a threat.. The military industrial complex creates wars not politicians dumbass :)
YouToobPresident 3 years ago
The military industrial complex.
A.K.A. The War Machine
ReneeNme 3 years ago
What is the point of creating wars for no reason
all you people want to do is complain about government
its really sickening how closed minded 95% of the american population is
If you could actually present a serious front for this blasphemy i might at consider it
but truly you are all talk and accomplish nothing
alec850 3 years ago
And your point is??
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Hahahaha...I just caught that
*John McCain severed his countries call to duty in the military and public service. 1Buckeyenation.
McCain did sever his countries call to duty.He severed it as soon as he "voluntarily" began coopereating with the enemy.Good call!!LOL
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Stop making yourself look like an ass by useing something I miss typed. You're a liar and a little prick. Your story about CIA tapes is BS. Your story about what McCain told US News and World report BS. Your story on George "Bud" Day is BS. Your story about John McCains service to his country is BS.
In short you are full of shit. Keep laughing little prick while real men do the hard work.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
Hahahaha..temper,temper,temper,now.Don't blow your cool.Oh,I never did tell you so I thought I really should.I am the son of a father who served in WWII,Korea and Vietnam.I have attended many conventions and gatherings of veterans and have met MANY war heroes and heard their war stories.John McCain?Does he meet "hero" criteria?Oh hell no,are you kidding me!?
ReneeNme 3 years ago 2
He gave up information that led to 60% more aircraft being shotdown. He basicly killed US pilots by giving up this information. How would anybody call someone who did this a Hero?
MK12082 3 years ago
Exactly MK12082.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Rennee I have read many of your posts I have one question for you. Have you served in the military for the USA and what capacity did you serve which branch and during which conflicts?
Actually Ill ask one more Have you ever been captured tortured as a P.O.W ? If your answer is no and Im sure it is than shut the hell up you have no right to sit in Judgment over anybody .Chances are you would never put a uniform on and serve this country .
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
Have I served?No.Captured and tortured as a POW?No.I've said it before and I'll say it again just for you."I am the son whos father served in WWII,Korea and Vietnam.I have met TRUE war heroes and McCain is NOT one.He is a traitor.My father,at 90 years old,despises John Mccain as much as I.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
As far as me shutting up Shepard?Well,you can just place that notion where the sun doesn't shine.I said it once,I say it twice.Even if a POW broke there comes a time when that individual would have to say enough is enough.But good ol' boy Johnny played along BIG TIME repeatedly.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Your wrong and your to stupid to know why or even look for the truth you are just spreading bs and anybody that has served can tell you dont know shit about honor your father at 90 is probably senile and cant even remember You claim John Mccain broke , The truth is you were not there and either was I or any other of these idiots so Know one knows if he did or didn't this is just a smear The Us gov doesn't think he gave up any info that's good enough for me
Shepardswatch 3 years ago
I don't know shit about honor?You don't know shit from apple butter.Trying to gloss over the facts that good ol' boy Johnny is nothing more than a treasoness ass gets you nowhere with me boyo.He should consider himself lucky that he is even welcome in MY country,let alone be able to run for the highest office in our nation.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
And as far as my father being senile?Shove it up your ass little man.He is sharper today than you will ever be on your best day.
He shoots...He scores.lol
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Finally, the truth. These loud mouth, military
hating Libs need to serve in a rifle company.
What do they do? They become "asphalt engineers." They sit on their fanny and find fault with a POW. SAD.
alright4u 3 years ago
Perhaps, you shouls email "Zippo" Smith before quoting him.
How do you know what a man did in POW Camp if you were not with him?
How could you know anything if you never served with him? I could not see what a recon team did on the gound from above them in a O-2.
alright4u 3 years ago
Research is all I can suggest alright4u.
Research.
vietnamveteransagainstmccain is a good site to start at.
ReneeNme 3 years ago
Well, Silver Star recipient Jim Howie Warner is a former Marine Corps naval flight officer who was shot down on Oct. 13, 1967 and spent more than five years in harrowing North Vietnamese prisons with John McCain. And though Warner is upfront about his many disagreements with McCain on political issues, he utterly rejects the secret traitor story.
ClassicFIHD 3 years ago
Ridiculous. Someone please take this woman's crack sandwiches away!
DannyJacoby 3 years ago 2
I agree. I damn sure hope she is not writing the taskforce Omega reports about men lost from my unit.
alright4u 3 years ago
Pure BS video. Not a Swinging Richard who was ever a POW with McCain would agree. And this witch writes for task force Omega? Flight paths change by OPS. You are a witch.
alright4u 3 years ago
Breath in the truth alright4u.You may not like it,but the truth abounds against your "hero" McCain.He is a traitor and commited treason against the U.S.
Don't feel bad.All the other supporters of McCain's have a hissy fit when they hear this info too.Some people just can't stand to have their visions diminished.Oh well!!
ReneeNme 3 years ago
but what about Bud Day the guy that sead he seen join mccain beeing tortured and not giveing up and then saying I will not go home with out all of these men??
I agree with you that he may have down it but I sill have some dissagrement...
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