Original 51 .44`s existed, allthough a reproduction, it is a true replica, These guns had a different cylinder change procedure than the .36 navy in terms of fast reload should you have a spare cylinder. I`m not implying anything but you should take better care of it considering that it is a true replica, not a "poor reproduction model"
its more likely to than a steel frame one, but thats with a lot of shooting and or a lot of shooting with more than the recomended powder load, mine I haven't had troubles with but I keep my loads at or below what the book calls for
SORRY: I have to rectify one thing: Te barrels cannot be fluted, I meant the ylinders. Sure, that the cylinders of the 1850 models were fluted, before they were replaced by round ones.
Right: the original caliber was 36 , but Colt never named it NAVY. Collectors gave it the name. Colt Called it RANGER or DRAGOON 4th Model, already sold in 1850 and produced until 1876 in very various versions. The Army 44 was manufactured in 1852. The round barrel was only made by the South to save steel. The first versions had fluted barrels, later replaced by round ones.
So: replicas in 44 are correct and authentic. Found one real 44 on a collectors site, expensive and rare.
Pietta made a .44 version of the 1851 navy, dubbed the "civilian version", in reality never existed outside of replicas. My 1851navy is a steel framed version of the Pietta .44 cal. I'm pretty happy with all my BP pistols, my navy included.
all in all it's a working, shooting colt replica,.44caliber is good, i often carry an 1851 .44 out in the woods with me, we have a bad coyote problem were im at.
The barrels were also different per name. The Navy had an octigonal barrel and the Army had a round barrel along with different loading levers being the major diffs. Mine is mostly in the style of the Navy revolvers but a 44
Grisswold and gunnison built a colt navy knocoff on the .36 frame in .44 with a round barrel in 1862 for the Confederacy. This gun is a near perfect replica of it. It should be labled 1862 Griswold and Gunnison Colt navy knockoff.
Everything I found of the Griswold and Gunnison was that it was made in .36 and had a round barrel. The only sources that I saw that had it in .44 were replicas w/round bbl for sale
@Navyma18, not all the brass framed colts were grisswold&gunnison, before the war some 1851colts were made in southern armories so that the colt company didn't have to work the whole pay load, and the south had a lack of steel even before the war and colt just told them to use brass on the frames,as an alternative, but when the war started colt removed his contract with these southern factories and took all his machines away, the south made their own version, the apart from having a round barrel
I think if it works I wouldn't call it a poor replica.
Hobbes0331 6 months ago
Original 51 .44`s existed, allthough a reproduction, it is a true replica, These guns had a different cylinder change procedure than the .36 navy in terms of fast reload should you have a spare cylinder. I`m not implying anything but you should take better care of it considering that it is a true replica, not a "poor reproduction model"
ToreDL87 2 years ago
will the brass parts on that deform at all?
trooperx666 2 years ago
its more likely to than a steel frame one, but thats with a lot of shooting and or a lot of shooting with more than the recomended powder load, mine I haven't had troubles with but I keep my loads at or below what the book calls for
powerhawk56 2 years ago
That looks damn identical to the one I go to. Grand River Wildlife Area, Ohio?
Migs4000 2 years ago
same one, been a while since I've been there. The rangers used to know me by name
powerhawk56 2 years ago
I have the two of them : .36 and .44, and the 5" barrel too in .36 ... ! Hi from France !!
jeancocha 2 years ago
SORRY: I have to rectify one thing: Te barrels cannot be fluted, I meant the ylinders. Sure, that the cylinders of the 1850 models were fluted, before they were replaced by round ones.
GUNRON1 2 years ago
Right: the original caliber was 36 , but Colt never named it NAVY. Collectors gave it the name. Colt Called it RANGER or DRAGOON 4th Model, already sold in 1850 and produced until 1876 in very various versions. The Army 44 was manufactured in 1852. The round barrel was only made by the South to save steel. The first versions had fluted barrels, later replaced by round ones.
So: replicas in 44 are correct and authentic. Found one real 44 on a collectors site, expensive and rare.
GUNRON1 2 years ago 2
So the .44 version is authentic !! Great !! Is the 5" barrel authentic too ?
jeancocha 2 years ago
Pietta made a .44 version of the 1851 navy, dubbed the "civilian version", in reality never existed outside of replicas. My 1851navy is a steel framed version of the Pietta .44 cal. I'm pretty happy with all my BP pistols, my navy included.
Nice video, thanks for sharing! :)
HooseBinPharteen 3 years ago
all in all it's a working, shooting colt replica,.44caliber is good, i often carry an 1851 .44 out in the woods with me, we have a bad coyote problem were im at.
moores20062007 3 years ago
brass frame means it was confederate due to their lack of steel. they made it in 44.
dime9876 3 years ago
Correct Confederates used brass, however to be a navy meant it to be a .36 to be a .44 meant it was an Army. The names designated the calibers
powerhawk56 3 years ago
perhaps they just mis-named it
dime9876 3 years ago
The barrels were also different per name. The Navy had an octigonal barrel and the Army had a round barrel along with different loading levers being the major diffs. Mine is mostly in the style of the Navy revolvers but a 44
powerhawk56 3 years ago
Grisswold and gunnison built a colt navy knocoff on the .36 frame in .44 with a round barrel in 1862 for the Confederacy. This gun is a near perfect replica of it. It should be labled 1862 Griswold and Gunnison Colt navy knockoff.
Navyma18 3 years ago
Everything I found of the Griswold and Gunnison was that it was made in .36 and had a round barrel. The only sources that I saw that had it in .44 were replicas w/round bbl for sale
powerhawk56 3 years ago
@Navyma18, not all the brass framed colts were grisswold&gunnison, before the war some 1851colts were made in southern armories so that the colt company didn't have to work the whole pay load, and the south had a lack of steel even before the war and colt just told them to use brass on the frames,as an alternative, but when the war started colt removed his contract with these southern factories and took all his machines away, the south made their own version, the apart from having a round barrel
maddymann8 1 year ago