In patches the developers, generally, are unable remove weapons, vehicles, attachments, etc. but, however, they're able to tweak stats and other certain parameters which have already been programmed into the game so that changes can be made. So while the BF3 crew may of not been able to remove the thermal scope, they were able to change it in a way to dissuade people to use it.
I literally stopped playing BF3 because of this nerf. I'll admit I was dependent on it, but not because I suck and needed it to kill, but rather because I don't have the best TV for the game. The IRNV allowed me to actually see people from distances, so it really just put me on par with people who had good tvs and used regular scopes.
I understand why they patched it, because it really was borderline cheap. But a better fix would have been to keep the image, but increase the recoil.
Believe it or not...the IRNV works well on 2 or 3 maps. Currently I use it very effectively on two maps. I won't name them but it works almost just as good as before.
The scope in fog delay is annoying but the worst part is, people don't really "glow" (from the heat the generate) like they used to. I wouldn't mind if the "glow" range was nerfed but as you can see in the final slide in this video (3:40, bottom left image), the enemy is very close but they don't "glow". It's like as is humans don't generate heat any more. Even in very close quarters! Scope is now worse than no scope and is completely useless. Yeah it was kinda OP before but everyone had it.
@megaoprahwinfrey wierd... A copy of call of duty that has completely different aspects and gameplay, AND it came out first. Arguing over the Internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, your still retarded.
wtf i never got to play with this scope i got the game late and i was like wtf! comon have you guys seen a real irnv in real life??? dont fucking complain it looks like how it is in campaign and how it use to be before the patch it looks like that in real life! fuck off your gonna ruin this game just like call of duty everybody complains over there this is bad this is bad this is bad cod 4 was fun becuse it was good then players started to complain fucking geeks
@somerandomutewb the sun emits photons at all wavelengths. Why do you think the sun feels hot? It's because of Infra-red radiation. UV rays are what tan your skin and can give you skin cancer. The sun emits IR, UV, all the visible spectrum and much more besides.
@DaSquirrelsNuts my understanding was that everything absorbed the uv rays and radiated them back as a differant wavelength ( ir ) to produce heat. sounds like im wrong. good game :\
That is not true. The sun does not emit light at all wavelength. Since most of the suns surface consists of hydrogen. At certain wavelengths hydrogen absorbs the photons emitted from the inside of the sun, thus blocking the given wavelength. Kinda like sunglasses. Other elementals blocks other wavelength.
This is btw how scientist determines what matter other stars consists of: by looking at which wavelengths is being blocked ;)
@arsukfjorden you can't say "does not emit light at all wavelengths" since "light" means "visible" light which is only a portion of the electro-magnetic spectrum. The sun emits photons are varying wavelengths, some of which are visible light. The point of my comment was to answer a guy who said that the sun emits UV and not IR radiation.
wow instead of fixing the irnv (and they should put it back), DICE could've fixed the famas, frag rounds, and the retarded squad/party. like he said, might as well just remove it from the game
I completely agree. Once I used the P90 after having not used it since before the nerf, and it still had the IR scope attached. I felt completely blinded when using it, and henceforth removed it from every kit and weapon. They took a relatively decent scope and nerfed it into a completely worthless thing you wouldn't attach to any gun.
i knew sumthin was wrong wiv it wen i was using it on the m249 2day. Thinking it was my TV i fucked up the visual settings (contrast, Brightness etc) :p
im glad it sucks now. it was so cheap before the patch. i would be sniping from cover and a guy with a lmg with the irnv from across the map would be able to see me and shoot at me. for me this patch was perfect.
The IRNV scope and frag ammo for shotguns are two things that should never have been put in the game because they can't perform at their intended role without being ridiculously overpowered. It's a role that didn't need to be filled in the first place.
I havent installed the 2.07GB patch on xbox and was telling my friends who have the patch, use this thing it incredible, etc. Im not installing that patch, this scope is literally game winning. I currently have 450SPM and a kd of 2.5, yeah alright im not only using this but i do for a good 50% of the time on the M416, im level 24 and honestly it is the best thing.
Used it once, thought a holo sight was ten times better. Seeing everything in green is annoying. The high contrast was stupid. It did not help me at all. Red dots and holos will always win out. I died from it a few times, but never like 10 times by the same person. It was just once or twice some kid got a good shot on me while I was shooting at something else or whatever. Never thought it was overpowered, like a venom with two engi's repairing it. Impossible to shoot down with stingers.
IMHO. Writing as someone who got A LOT of crazy long range M249 kills using it pre-nerf. Yes it needed to be changed. Everyone knew it. Because of the super high contrast of bright yellow at any range it made the M249, with a little trigger discipline, play like a sniper. It was that godlike. The new version makes a lot more sense in context. Now its more suited to a support LMG in a suppressive role covering an avenue of approach, which is what he ought to be doing more of.
@Excedrine completely agree. Indoors/Tunnels, sure..leave it as is. Outside in the day...different story. I do concede tho that the IRNV was a bit OP, but nerfing it to oblivion was unnecessary. I think both TacLight and IRNV should work better indoors/night than outside in the daylight.
When I used to use this with the scar and silencer I agree that the scope was a bit too effective at all ranges and expected a nerf. But Dice really did kill the poor scope. O well back to the good ol red dot.
It needed to be nerfed big time, every fucking noob and his dog was using that scope, its like a cheat/hack its that IMBA..........seriously they only put it in to stop 12yr olds crying about snipers.
Learn to play the game, the IR scope is a CRUTCH..... and you fucking know it !!!!!!
Well I've had a Tact light and they are extremely bright....Enough to blind you for a few seconds....I'm glad they nerfed thr IRNV because...its was almost like cheating...
The reason why it cannot see the sun is because they never bothered to make the sun as part of the game engine. It's just aftereffects. Lazy programming on their part. (The entire game is not a result of laziness like CoD is, that is just a small detail that they were lazy with.
honestly this shit reminds me of what the cod staff does with overpowered stuff in their games... i am not happy about this. that scope was awesome, and now it just takes up space in my list of scopes... fucking dice bring IRNV back..
(Sigh) Another case of pissed off players with no skills complaining and getting their way. People need to realize thats its not the weapons or the attachments, ITS YOU!
@GeneralxGrievousx except for the tact lights. The fucking thing is brighter than the god damn sun. I'm serious. Check it out for yourself. How is that realistic?
Yesterday, I had by accident taken IRNV x1 as my sight to my M413 on PC. Before the patch I could take down people with it but at longer ranges I had to give up. But now... After they've nerfed it I could barely see ANY yellow at all on a guy on OP metro that was like literally 5 meters from me. Everything was just green so I ended up no-scoping him with a machine gun because I couldn't see him in my IRNV sight. So I mean, sure, you can nerf attachments DICE but please don't make them USELESS!
@TheEliteSport If it was night vision, you'd be able to see in the dark. For xbox 360, it's harder to see in the dark, but people pop out like shit on a rainbow.
What I did when this happened wasI just went to System Settings and went to games Battlefield 3 and deleted the multiplayer update off my console. When I go into BF3 its asks if I want to get the update and just click no, and it doesn't matter. This way the scope is the same as it was before the patch was put up.
i like that dice fucked down this scope, couse it was realy unbalanced. 90% of players used only it. dont care about it, never used it and i dont think that i will......
i just saw shibby's video about this thinking i was gonna try it out and now its shit :C and v lol they didnt patch explosive shotgun rounds and flashlight :d
I just started using the irnv scope and I found it was still extremely useful, for me at least. I find it's a lot easier to find people even with the patched scope.
@TheEcasx i totally agree with you!! If you want to be good in a FPS you should use your eyes and not some kind of scope... because when something like THIS PATCH happens..you won't see or hit a sh** anymore.
Ironsights are still the best thing ever! they won't change :)
@Velvantor01 this was the first ever FPS I started playing, and I used the IRNV scoped all the time. But now I've become much better and after the patch I wasn't all that sad. It's so much funner now, previously I always stopped regularly and peered through the scope, in case I missed anyone.
@Oikeh Ah no, they're doing their job and you just need to be a better pilot and try to avoid the stinger by say flying low to the ground. Things shouldn't be nerfed just because you don't have the skill to avoid them.
I guess now all the IRNV whores out there are being forced to play during the day with reg scopes the way Dice intended. Oh boo hoo. Now it's just downright obvious which colonels are having trouble adapting when score boards shows their negative kd's lol.
@TheBadAssNcrRanger the thing is that a player with irnv looks thru the scope many times more than the other players. i was totaly on irnv and i just had to learn a new gaming type cause now i don't use the scope vry often. most of the time i take the 6x cause i only need it on ranges now... there have to be a scope with 1x zoom and an only dot in the middle not a ring on the outside of the dot no 3,4x or something shitty like that ~.~
when they crap the scope up they should install a function with that we can put the light of and use it like a normal scope. because there is not 1 scope that works good for me. i need that thing with normal view -,.-
@lgmmrm That is so fucking stupid, the tact lights are overpowered, and suddenly having something to counteract that makes it be overpowered. What it should do is just see through smoke and light and not make the enemies stick out.
@leeman7395 hey... if you're going to complain about how we who use IRNVs are pussies and get kills handed to us, then stop using those Cowardly TAC-Lites, the IRNVs were the only way to combat those... asswhole
I realized it was completely overused...but it wasn't overpowered. They ruined it and I agree, they should just remove it if it is this bad. I could understand a small nerf but they definitely overdid it.
The original scope was a BIT too effective, but this nerf is ridiculous. Dice made a good game, but sometimes they make some of the biggest, worst mistakes ever.
i was so dissapointed about this, i loved the IRNV scope and they have ruined it and made it look like shit, i agree though if your gonna make it like that you may aswell just remove the fucking thing.
I nevered use the scope at all... I kinda feel left out but at the same time relieved because Im sure thats something that wouldve thoroughly pissed me off.
The scope looks more realistic now. IR and NV scopes get interference with dust, rain, and smoke. They work great when conditions are good. In real life a sniper, or someone on post would have it on consistently to avoid the delay.
@Littlerock1371 I don't understand why more people don't see it this way. Realism seems to always be a priority for DICE- and props to them for tackling a problem in the game in the most realistic way possible (even if it might be at the expense of its practicality).
IRNV scope still works perfect like before on all the Back to Karkand maps. I also noticed that it still worked well on the Siene Crossing and Operation Firestorm maps. I haven't tried it on all the original maps but it seems like it works on some and not on others.
i hate the new irnv scope this moring i got up started playing my xbox 360 bf3 put the irnv scope on my m249 and the dust dirt and all that were really showing the ppl wernt as bright either
This scope was part of this game that made it realistic (life like) Thats why this game was awesome! Dice is f***ing up by nerf shit like this! Way to F*** up guys! You suck!!!
@KiLLxDoZeR You probably say that because you got destroyed by people using it before the nerf. I hate the red-dot, I can hardly see the dot when it's really sunny out, so I use ACOG now.
In patches the developers, generally, are unable remove weapons, vehicles, attachments, etc. but, however, they're able to tweak stats and other certain parameters which have already been programmed into the game so that changes can be made. So while the BF3 crew may of not been able to remove the thermal scope, they were able to change it in a way to dissuade people to use it.
Fo0O0oTBall 14 hours ago
They nerf the inrv sight because it was good... WHAT THE FUCK. what about the usas 12g frag that fucking overpowered automatic granada launcher.
Bring the old inrv back
rasor2k9 3 days ago 2
DICE always nerf something simply because it's good.
jsDX11 5 days ago
One would think that we in 2012 have better technology to make scopes than that.
WtfPwnInCyberSpace 5 days ago
They fucking still testing the fucking game at our cost!!!
nords 6 days ago
I HATE THAT NEW SCOPE on 360. They fucking give me somehting that I like and then (fuck us) took it back!!! I FUCKING HATE EA!! And now DICE
nords 6 days ago
they patched the wrong thing
it should have been the usas with frag
mike1220115 1 week ago 5
I literally stopped playing BF3 because of this nerf. I'll admit I was dependent on it, but not because I suck and needed it to kill, but rather because I don't have the best TV for the game. The IRNV allowed me to actually see people from distances, so it really just put me on par with people who had good tvs and used regular scopes.
I understand why they patched it, because it really was borderline cheap. But a better fix would have been to keep the image, but increase the recoil.
LightheartedViewing 1 week ago 2
Good job dice u screwed up real good
kang8087 1 week ago
The realistic way was before the patch - but the QQ was so strong that the item got utterly destroyed.
cr4yv3n 1 week ago
There shouldn't be any delay, the scope is on at all times, so why the hell is there a delay?
Guitarplayer219 1 week ago
i'm not shore but i think it's still to bright were you were. was lots of light were you stod so it dosent work good at all. just what i think.
08Tompan 2 weeks ago
Hey squirral I ready sent u one add me plz
jose88420 2 weeks ago
my friends dont find this scope fuzzy i keep telling them its unusable but they dont believe me
BF3FTWGGNORE 2 weeks ago
Of all things to nerf, they left USAS frag rounds alone, but they dumbed down a scope.
:/
MrMurderx1221 2 weeks ago
@MrMurderx1221 and they left out the famas :(
KodiakCorp 2 weeks ago
@KodiakCorp quit crying, its people like you that are ruining this game!!!
TheKkkeeennnnnnyyy 1 week ago
Believe it or not...the IRNV works well on 2 or 3 maps. Currently I use it very effectively on two maps. I won't name them but it works almost just as good as before.
joshuame505 2 weeks ago
@joshuame505 on all karkand maps is still works.
DwaightSkiiHD 2 weeks ago
The scope in fog delay is annoying but the worst part is, people don't really "glow" (from the heat the generate) like they used to. I wouldn't mind if the "glow" range was nerfed but as you can see in the final slide in this video (3:40, bottom left image), the enemy is very close but they don't "glow". It's like as is humans don't generate heat any more. Even in very close quarters! Scope is now worse than no scope and is completely useless. Yeah it was kinda OP before but everyone had it.
3Z3K13L08 2 weeks ago
You guys are overreacting. IRVN is still awesome. It helps you maintain a high suicide point.
Ravagexful 2 weeks ago
@DjNiko17 Too many bitchers. Seriously its a 1x Scope, Id have gone with an RDS any day anyway.
hat1324 2 weeks ago
Wtf, i've never seen people using these ... why did they nerf it so bad ._.
DjNiko17 2 weeks ago
Such an over-nerf, untouched post-patch
nocturnuk 3 weeks ago
haven't used it since the nerf
andrew98205 3 weeks ago
It's sad that they mess with the good things the game had going for it...
naesydarb9 3 weeks ago
@megaoprahwinfrey wierd... A copy of call of duty that has completely different aspects and gameplay, AND it came out first. Arguing over the Internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, your still retarded.
madgreenb 3 weeks ago
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I DON'T GET WHY Y'ALL LIKE THIS ITS JUST A SHITTY COPY OF CALL OF DUTY!
megaoprahwinfrey 3 weeks ago
wtf i never got to play with this scope i got the game late and i was like wtf! comon have you guys seen a real irnv in real life??? dont fucking complain it looks like how it is in campaign and how it use to be before the patch it looks like that in real life! fuck off your gonna ruin this game just like call of duty everybody complains over there this is bad this is bad this is bad cod 4 was fun becuse it was good then players started to complain fucking geeks
whatsup12387 3 weeks ago
If u say its good they fixed it ure wrong if u give of heat u should be seen but now I c a outline I still use it tho lol still killin
drtkr1995 3 weeks ago
it works good at night but they might make more night levels in future
shaunitai 3 weeks ago
@shaunitai no it doesnt, ive tried them on Tehran highway and they dont work
antho3001 3 weeks ago
lol what the fuck were they thinking
kinda503 3 weeks ago
I really miss the old girl.
bennieyoung86 3 weeks ago
Im a xbox360 play use that scope alot when i first started out ..... Now neva even touch since they updated it
Soul272011 3 weeks ago
sun emits uv rays not infared so it wouldnt appear on the irnv.
somerandomutewb 4 weeks ago
@somerandomutewb the sun emits photons at all wavelengths. Why do you think the sun feels hot? It's because of Infra-red radiation. UV rays are what tan your skin and can give you skin cancer. The sun emits IR, UV, all the visible spectrum and much more besides.
DaSquirrelsNuts 3 weeks ago 10
@DaSquirrelsNuts my understanding was that everything absorbed the uv rays and radiated them back as a differant wavelength ( ir ) to produce heat. sounds like im wrong. good game :\
somerandomutewb 3 weeks ago
@DaSquirrelsNuts gamma,UV, very small amount of X-ray, visible light, the sun contains everything from the electromagnetic spectrum
limitsora69 2 weeks ago
@limitsora69 isn't that what I said above when I replied to @somerandomuteweb?
DaSquirrelsNuts 2 weeks ago 2
@DaSquirrelsNuts just adding what you left out ;p
limitsora69 2 weeks ago
@DaSquirrelsNuts
That is not true. The sun does not emit light at all wavelength. Since most of the suns surface consists of hydrogen. At certain wavelengths hydrogen absorbs the photons emitted from the inside of the sun, thus blocking the given wavelength. Kinda like sunglasses. Other elementals blocks other wavelength.
This is btw how scientist determines what matter other stars consists of: by looking at which wavelengths is being blocked ;)
arsukfjorden 2 weeks ago
@arsukfjorden you can't say "does not emit light at all wavelengths" since "light" means "visible" light which is only a portion of the electro-magnetic spectrum. The sun emits photons are varying wavelengths, some of which are visible light. The point of my comment was to answer a guy who said that the sun emits UV and not IR radiation.
DaSquirrelsNuts 2 weeks ago
Thermal scopes are black and white with mediocre image quality. It was far from realistic to begin with.
IzOoLoGyI 1 month ago
@IzOoLoGyI IRNV =/= Thermal, buddy.
BloodMagex 4 weeks ago
Good for notin. They show do something wit the flashlights too, they gay
jm357m 1 month ago
wow instead of fixing the irnv (and they should put it back), DICE could've fixed the famas, frag rounds, and the retarded squad/party. like he said, might as well just remove it from the game
KuleTube 1 month ago
I completely agree. Once I used the P90 after having not used it since before the nerf, and it still had the IR scope attached. I felt completely blinded when using it, and henceforth removed it from every kit and weapon. They took a relatively decent scope and nerfed it into a completely worthless thing you wouldn't attach to any gun.
theSeedsOfWar 1 month ago
it sucks now i used to love it
neenjakiller 1 month ago 2
i knew sumthin was wrong wiv it wen i was using it on the m249 2day. Thinking it was my TV i fucked up the visual settings (contrast, Brightness etc) :p
7M3K7 1 month ago
they nerfed an exelant scope but ignored the rediculesly bright flash light.
Yeah, nice patch DICE :(
mi4e5 1 month ago
its on the xbox and pc to, stupid patch
gsgrobin 1 month ago
im glad it sucks now. it was so cheap before the patch. i would be sniping from cover and a guy with a lmg with the irnv from across the map would be able to see me and shoot at me. for me this patch was perfect.
footballplayr96 1 month ago
That's a terrible patch, they should fix it...again and make it right this time.
Psychocide 1 month ago 2
Geez, ice should've just looked at some army footage of what IRNV pictures actually LOOKS like.
maugustyniak 1 month ago
Yeah. Are the makers of bf3 retarded? They patch a good scope to near shit but not the gayboy flashlight.
Glare108 1 month ago
PS3 4 LYFE
blakefl51COD 1 month ago
Now patch the tac flash.
TheFalloutguy14 1 month ago
@TheFalloutguy14 I know seriously. I'm blinded more by my own teammates then the enemy.
nicky69691 1 month ago
The IRNV scope and frag ammo for shotguns are two things that should never have been put in the game because they can't perform at their intended role without being ridiculously overpowered. It's a role that didn't need to be filled in the first place.
AnklebiterTypeR 1 month ago
@AnklebiterTypeR Well said.
AirPlaneNinja 1 month ago
I agree 100%
Madawg65 1 month ago 2
IRNV Scope should be clear indoors, but foggy like it is now in very bright areas.
Watching233 1 month ago
nerfing something to be way more worse than a normal scope
sustantivo1espritu 1 month ago
Its strange that you can see mines like they are hot objects :D
YamahaTume 1 month ago
I always used it with the f2000 and was pissed wen i saw that bullshit after the update they might as well take the Damn thing out
quentin35kimura 1 month ago
I havent installed the 2.07GB patch on xbox and was telling my friends who have the patch, use this thing it incredible, etc. Im not installing that patch, this scope is literally game winning. I currently have 450SPM and a kd of 2.5, yeah alright im not only using this but i do for a good 50% of the time on the M416, im level 24 and honestly it is the best thing.
wwwtjecouk 1 month ago
@wwwtjecouk Your just a scrub that can't do shit without the Thermal Scope.
ALR305 1 month ago
@ALR305 Fuck off, i spend a huge amount of time just using the snipers and shotguns, not just the IRNV. Your just a scrub, end of.
wwwtjecouk 1 month ago
Used it once, thought a holo sight was ten times better. Seeing everything in green is annoying. The high contrast was stupid. It did not help me at all. Red dots and holos will always win out. I died from it a few times, but never like 10 times by the same person. It was just once or twice some kid got a good shot on me while I was shooting at something else or whatever. Never thought it was overpowered, like a venom with two engi's repairing it. Impossible to shoot down with stingers.
chrisisawfullyfresh 1 month ago
IMHO. Writing as someone who got A LOT of crazy long range M249 kills using it pre-nerf. Yes it needed to be changed. Everyone knew it. Because of the super high contrast of bright yellow at any range it made the M249, with a little trigger discipline, play like a sniper. It was that godlike. The new version makes a lot more sense in context. Now its more suited to a support LMG in a suppressive role covering an avenue of approach, which is what he ought to be doing more of.
uberunityistkaput 1 month ago
By the time I unlocked my first IRNV scope it has been already nerfed. Lucky you people before they patched it.
josesolty 1 month ago
It's a useless scope now. If they don't fix it, they might as well remove it from the game.
frostyflakes96 1 month ago
They should NEVER have nerfed the IRNV, and there's absolutely NO valid argument to the contrary.
What they SHOULD have nerfed is the Tac-Light, and THAT'S a fact that no one can dispute with any coherent argument. Period.
Excedrine 1 month ago
@Excedrine completely agree. Indoors/Tunnels, sure..leave it as is. Outside in the day...different story. I do concede tho that the IRNV was a bit OP, but nerfing it to oblivion was unnecessary. I think both TacLight and IRNV should work better indoors/night than outside in the daylight.
frankieb0nez02 1 month ago
u dunno why, but i call this scope ''Irvin Scope''
TheOCara91 1 month ago
When I used to use this with the scar and silencer I agree that the scope was a bit too effective at all ranges and expected a nerf. But Dice really did kill the poor scope. O well back to the good ol red dot.
FlightX101 1 month ago
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It needed to be nerfed big time, every fucking noob and his dog was using that scope, its like a cheat/hack its that IMBA..........seriously they only put it in to stop 12yr olds crying about snipers.
Learn to play the game, the IR scope is a CRUTCH..... and you fucking know it !!!!!!
Roguefox2006 1 month ago
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Roguefox2006 1 month ago
i am very mad about this nerf :(
924bak 1 month ago 2
@924bak i agree the IRVN shouldnt be pathed
it aint fun
i dont realy think its overpowerd
they should have atleast made it so its afected on sunny maps depending on the location too
HMKfilms360 1 month ago
Well I've had a Tact light and they are extremely bright....Enough to blind you for a few seconds....I'm glad they nerfed thr IRNV because...its was almost like cheating...
SgtHawkinspxs 1 month ago
@SgtHawkinspxs tac lite is, bitch
lgmmrm 1 month ago
@lgmmrm awww...You mad? Tell you mom to brush her teeth because i don't want my dick to get dirty...
SgtHawkinspxs 1 month ago
@SgtHawkinspxs the tac light is way more OPed than the IRNV ever was....
lgmmrm 1 month ago
I like the patch beceause in real life if you are looking to a Ir you see everything fine But If someone turn the light on You burn your eyes!
AudioSonic02 1 month ago
everyone, just remove the patches. You'll be fine
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
The reason why it cannot see the sun is because they never bothered to make the sun as part of the game engine. It's just aftereffects. Lazy programming on their part. (The entire game is not a result of laziness like CoD is, that is just a small detail that they were lazy with.
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
@FaKhaos
you can't deny its overnerfed... i am using the KOBRA since ages so STFU
monked86 1 month ago
Lol I still use it and people give me rage messages!
Checkthisvid100 1 month ago
read the discribtion for the scope, then you will see why it is so bad...
ToffifoHD 1 month ago
honestly this shit reminds me of what the cod staff does with overpowered stuff in their games... i am not happy about this. that scope was awesome, and now it just takes up space in my list of scopes... fucking dice bring IRNV back..
crunchyf3tus 1 month ago
@charlsse
Esaxgame08x 1 month ago
l2p with normal optics, little girls
Morowww 1 month ago
change it back dice, change it back
BlackBurn092 1 month ago
they nerf the stuff that doesnt need it like the mortars and this scope. but yet they ignore the obvious stuff like flashlight and mic/squad problem
devildogin2012 1 month ago
I WANT THE OLD IR NV BACK!!!
I used to use it on my long range weapons but now it's ruined, at least for those purposes D:
Why would EA do such a cruel thing?
And then to their own game :(
SKYGUY03 1 month ago
@SKYGUY03 IRNV scope ruined the game. People now use their eyes to find people, not that ridiculously overpowered scope.
TheEcasx 1 month ago
(Sigh) Another case of pissed off players with no skills complaining and getting their way. People need to realize thats its not the weapons or the attachments, ITS YOU!
GeneralxGrievousx 1 month ago
@GeneralxGrievousx except for the tact lights. The fucking thing is brighter than the god damn sun. I'm serious. Check it out for yourself. How is that realistic?
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
@thedeviantguy Oh yeah except those fucking things, THOSE are like the one things needed to be patched.
GeneralxGrievousx 1 month ago
If they mess this up and get rid of it they should get rid of the frag shotgun rounds too. I liked the IR now it sucks. Everything is green.
Twisted1MN 1 month ago
im so glad this noobs best friend has been nerfed
Iceberqe 1 month ago
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Yesterday, I had by accident taken IRNV x1 as my sight to my M413 on PC. Before the patch I could take down people with it but at longer ranges I had to give up. But now... After they've nerfed it I could barely see ANY yellow at all on a guy on OP metro that was like literally 5 meters from me. Everything was just green so I ended up no-scoping him with a machine gun because I couldn't see him in my IRNV sight. So I mean, sure, you can nerf attachments DICE but please don't make them USELESS!
noobstuntguy 1 month ago 4
rofl the squirrels nutsXD
killameh34 1 month ago
I thought it was night vision, not thermal? IDK, mught be same thing lol
TheEliteSport 1 month ago
@TheEliteSport If it was night vision, you'd be able to see in the dark. For xbox 360, it's harder to see in the dark, but people pop out like shit on a rainbow.
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
What I did when this happened wasI just went to System Settings and went to games Battlefield 3 and deleted the multiplayer update off my console. When I go into BF3 its asks if I want to get the update and just click no, and it doesn't matter. This way the scope is the same as it was before the patch was put up.
charlsse 1 month ago
They work for noobs, how dare they said REAL ?_? i dun think noobs got any advantage here
CH2OxtSU 1 month ago
i like that dice fucked down this scope, couse it was realy unbalanced. 90% of players used only it. dont care about it, never used it and i dont think that i will......
kos190 1 month ago
wht ur psn
SniperBlade14 1 month ago
i just saw shibby's video about this thinking i was gonna try it out and now its shit :C and v lol they didnt patch explosive shotgun rounds and flashlight :d
ThisFilipinoBruh 1 month ago
I just started using the irnv scope and I found it was still extremely useful, for me at least. I find it's a lot easier to find people even with the patched scope.
hazow22 1 month ago
so they patch this useful scope, and they dont patch EXPLOSIVE SHOTGUN SHELLS?!?!?
what the fuck?!?
halabinono 1 month ago
@halabinono Just because something is 'useful' doesn't mean it's overpowered.
TheEcasx 1 month ago
@TheEcasx
it wasnt overpowered. its an optic for gods sake
halabinono 1 month ago
@halabinono What are you on about?! It ruined the bloody game! People now use their EYES to find enemies, instead of looking through a scope.
TheEcasx 1 month ago
@TheEcasx
lol, you can find enemies easier by mashing the spot button. does that need to be nerfed?
this scope wasnt that big of a deal
halabinono 1 month ago
@halabinono At least with the scope button you have to look CLOSE to where the enemy was.
TheEcasx 1 month ago
@TheEcasx i totally agree with you!! If you want to be good in a FPS you should use your eyes and not some kind of scope... because when something like THIS PATCH happens..you won't see or hit a sh** anymore.
Ironsights are still the best thing ever! they won't change :)
Velvantor01 1 month ago
@Velvantor01 this was the first ever FPS I started playing, and I used the IRNV scoped all the time. But now I've become much better and after the patch I wasn't all that sad. It's so much funner now, previously I always stopped regularly and peered through the scope, in case I missed anyone.
TheEcasx 1 month ago
It's so foggy as fuck now useless
Aznpwn14 1 month ago
That's a quite ridiculous patch.
IJustChillingI 1 month ago
They need to nerf the stingers, every time i'm in a heli, some dudes are just waiting with there stinger to shoot you out...
Oikeh 2 months ago
@Oikeh Get flares.... and stay out of there spawn.
BrokenAndBlackwings 2 months ago
@Oikeh Ah no, they're doing their job and you just need to be a better pilot and try to avoid the stinger by say flying low to the ground. Things shouldn't be nerfed just because you don't have the skill to avoid them.
GeneralxGrievousx 1 month ago
@Oikeh Lol this is a joke right? It's so hard to take down aircraft with stingers as it is now with the last nerf....
xfactor0693 1 month ago
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xalifornia 2 months ago
@xalifornia they did.
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
come on, after patch my scope is so narrow , and nobody is yellow , he look default in scope , wtf ? My scope is broken
MakeTh3pOrn 2 months ago
they fuckin ruined it dya know are they gonna fix it bud?
rambo999ification 2 months ago
I guess now all the IRNV whores out there are being forced to play during the day with reg scopes the way Dice intended. Oh boo hoo. Now it's just downright obvious which colonels are having trouble adapting when score boards shows their negative kd's lol.
Vinco1352 2 months ago
Completely over Nerfed the scope, its totally useless now, i can now never use this scope
jerimierothwell 2 months ago
Seriously how was it op! Barely anyone used it and even when I saw someone use it the weren't that much better than other players!
TheBadAssNcrRanger 2 months ago
@TheBadAssNcrRanger the thing is that a player with irnv looks thru the scope many times more than the other players. i was totaly on irnv and i just had to learn a new gaming type cause now i don't use the scope vry often. most of the time i take the 6x cause i only need it on ranges now... there have to be a scope with 1x zoom and an only dot in the middle not a ring on the outside of the dot no 3,4x or something shitty like that ~.~
LATRONNIK 2 months ago
when they crap the scope up they should install a function with that we can put the light of and use it like a normal scope. because there is not 1 scope that works good for me. i need that thing with normal view -,.-
LATRONNIK 2 months ago
lol they made it so no one will ever use it again
stevesk8r 2 months ago
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iTzaNAZi 2 months ago
The reason they nerfed it is because all those pussies that use Tac-Lites were angry because it defeated their fucking Tac-Lites.
lgmmrm 2 months ago 8
@lgmmrm That is so fucking stupid, the tact lights are overpowered, and suddenly having something to counteract that makes it be overpowered. What it should do is just see through smoke and light and not make the enemies stick out.
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
You guys are pussies and are pissed you have to use a real scope now. Learn to play the game the real way and not get kills handed to you
leeman7395 2 months ago
@leeman7395 hey... if you're going to complain about how we who use IRNVs are pussies and get kills handed to us, then stop using those Cowardly TAC-Lites, the IRNVs were the only way to combat those... asswhole
lgmmrm 2 months ago
DICE stop nerfing the fucking game you dumb cunts!n!
flyKICKyo 2 months ago
I realized it was completely overused...but it wasn't overpowered. They ruined it and I agree, they should just remove it if it is this bad. I could understand a small nerf but they definitely overdid it.
Murray13j 2 months ago
I agree with you, if they want to make the scope unusable, why not remove it?
asimb0mb 2 months ago
The original scope was a BIT too effective, but this nerf is ridiculous. Dice made a good game, but sometimes they make some of the biggest, worst mistakes ever.
SkullTraill 2 months ago
i was so dissapointed about this, i loved the IRNV scope and they have ruined it and made it look like shit, i agree though if your gonna make it like that you may aswell just remove the fucking thing.
ash3344 2 months ago
i think you are all just sour you have to use a proper scope now.
FaceSTAB411 2 months ago
Nowadays on PC theres still a few players using the IRNV
WaerzMedia09 2 months ago
I too cannot s cope with it anymore :)
liveuk 2 months ago
What a rediculous patch
GokuAUHunter 2 months ago
I nevered use the scope at all... I kinda feel left out but at the same time relieved because Im sure thats something that wouldve thoroughly pissed me off.
ShaiqNBaiq5464 2 months ago
The scope looks more realistic now. IR and NV scopes get interference with dust, rain, and smoke. They work great when conditions are good. In real life a sniper, or someone on post would have it on consistently to avoid the delay.
Littlerock1371 2 months ago
@Littlerock1371 I don't understand why more people don't see it this way. Realism seems to always be a priority for DICE- and props to them for tackling a problem in the game in the most realistic way possible (even if it might be at the expense of its practicality).
TheFidelSays 1 month ago
@TheFidelSays except for the flashlights. not realistic. at all.
thedeviantguy 1 month ago
Yea, the nerf has made the scope complete crap, they should nerfed it but not make it unusable.
la8nght 2 months ago
Way over Nerfed, this was great for spotting enemys for team mates now it looks pretty fucked.
DaWreckster 2 months ago
IRNV scope still works perfect like before on all the Back to Karkand maps. I also noticed that it still worked well on the Siene Crossing and Operation Firestorm maps. I haven't tried it on all the original maps but it seems like it works on some and not on others.
mekilla 2 months ago
It's like a kick in your squirrel's nuts.
Coolgerb 2 months ago
looks like cloudy shit
mrnarason 2 months ago
it sucks now because I couldn't wait for BF3 because i liked that scope, but now its just a annoying disappointment
matiemanre4 2 months ago
i hate the new irnv scope this moring i got up started playing my xbox 360 bf3 put the irnv scope on my m249 and the dust dirt and all that were really showing the ppl wernt as bright either
123cheesebubbles 2 months ago
the SNIPER irnv hasn't been nerf'd !!! (use a semi auto with the sniper irnv for amazing mid range pwnage)
11haythem 2 months ago
irnv was fucking op in the outside ... op means in this fact, for noobs without skill
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93mlo 2 months ago
This scope was part of this game that made it realistic (life like) Thats why this game was awesome! Dice is f***ing up by nerf shit like this! Way to F*** up guys! You suck!!!
HiltsElement12 2 months ago
i have IRNV on a PP-2000 and it has no nerf?
DeltaSixEcho 2 months ago
yeah the irnv is useless and it seems like the rpgs suck now to, cant they just leave the game alone?
2fast4u450 2 months ago
fuck DICE they nerfed this scope straight to shit and they didn't so much about the fucking flashlights
Rayden440 2 months ago 24
@Rayden440 wow who cares its a noob scope anyway use a red dot or better yet...JETS AND CHOPPERS!!
KiLLxDoZeR 2 months ago
@KiLLxDoZeR You probably say that because you got destroyed by people using it before the nerf. I hate the red-dot, I can hardly see the dot when it's really sunny out, so I use ACOG now.
Murray13j 2 months ago
@Rayden440 although those flashlights are pretty realistic dude
Inyourfacebucko 2 months ago