Apple ships mountains of junk nobody needs that end up in toxic landfill. All of it made in slave labour sweatshops as millions of Americans live in abject poverty. It makes apple wealthy therefore Jobs is yankee national hero.
I bought a computer tower that had a Intel Core 2 Q8300, 4GB Corsair RAM, 1TB Hard Drive, 9800GTX+ 1GB, 450w PSU, and Windows 7 Ultimate just under £400, I also bought an AOC 21.5" 1920 x 1080 Monitor for £95, some speakers that were £10 and a Microsoft brand mouse and keyboard for £20, so in total it was around £525 for the total amount. That was two years ago.
Checking the Apple online store the cheapest is £999, and its exactly the same as mine, except with only 500GB instead of 1TB.
@liamlunasee software and ecosystem are the main value-adds for macs and other apple products, something many people just ignore when they say they're overpriced.
@jamaldeemer Hardly, the software is not something you can justify over around £500 for, and please explain why you think the ecosystem of a product can make it more expensive, there are many explanations to this.
@liamlunasee Those things don't necessarily make them costlier to produce, but they add value for certain people. For example, if you're looking for a gaming pc, Macs are a horrible value, but if you value other things, like content creation software, or the way Apple products interact, or the app store, or aesthetics, or numerous other things, you might be willing to pay more on hardware so you can have access to those exclusive things. This is the core of Apple's success.
@jamaldeemer They add value for some I agree with that but everything else are all gimmicks on Apples side to help to get more customers, it is commonly said that apple has better software for creation type software, but this is software it can easily be made for Windows OS computers, and the App store, thats just a database of software, PCs don't need that. People are just buying apple products for those reasons and I agree, but they aren't necessaraly worth it or justifiable for tis cost.
Using your logic, BMW would never sell any cars, because Honda also make perfectly fine cars that have 4 wheels and an engine which is comparable to a BMW engine in many respects. Honda's are safe and reliable, and look nice to most people. But, anyone who buys a new BMW could have bought a Honda for much less, but didn't.
The reason they don't is also why people buy Apple.
@VHSpal No, I am talking about a product that has the exact same components in, the iMac does not have any components specifically made by Apple, they can be used in other computers that are not made by apple.
If BMW made a car that had the exact same components in as a car made by Honda, but charged twice as much, you can expect many people to make this obvious, there would also be many reviews made by lets say Top Gear about this.
@liamlunasee But if someone loved BMW cars and wasn't interested in the competition then they would buy the BMW, if someone questioned them they would easily say its a BMW. Thats how branding works and how Apples customers work, they say a Mac can do so many things that a PC can't but really a PC can do anything a Mac can do its just most Apple customers will not look into it to see for themselves and the rest will not care about PCs they will only buy Macs because its an Apple product
@liamlunasee Also I am not missing the point, I am saying an Apple Mac should not be £999 when a two year old PC with the exact same components that was considered mid-range at the time (and now low-range) is worth £525 which is now probably worth a lot lower. The difference between the two is still that the Mac has a fancier case and a different OS, nothing anybody can say can justify their pricing other than, its Apple, people will buy it because its Apple and they can get away with it.
@liamlunasee You do understand the reason for the cost is because the use of aluminum body and the glass screen? Don't believe me? Go look at the Dell Adamo, a computer made with the same high-quality materials a MacBook Pro is made out of. Go look at a Lenovo ThinkPad (Not made of the same aluminum, but made of industrial-strength materials) they're also the same price. The other PCs are cheaper because they use plastic screens and housings.
0:50 lowest price we can? Really? Apple profit margin was ridiculously high 23,4% where other manufactures have 4-7% profit margin. C´mon Steve you do not have to lie to people.
Lol @ people talking about building PCs. That's like a construction engineer saying he could build himself a house for cheaper than a company could.
When I bought my MacBook pro, I compared it to laptops with similar specs by other high-end manufacturers and the price was petty damn competitive. And that's not even comparing the intangibles like Apple's rigorous quality control, OCD-excellent construction, and unmatched design.
Don't forget the far superior OSX, which perfectly integrates
@bluesdealer Actually there was a study done that showed Asus had the most reliable laptops. Apple placed 4th. Secondly, you're construction engineer analogy isn't comparable because that's entirely different, you absolutely do not need to be any kind of engineer to build a PC, it's no more difficult than building with Lego blocks. And what exactly is OS X superior to and in which way? Because my PC runs both Windows and Linux. Are you going to try and tell me OS X is superior to Linux? LOL.
@bluesdealer bought a far superior dell laptop (xps 15), same specs as the best possible mac book pro, 700€ cheaper. excellent design, good quality, and it has one of the two most compatible operating systems built in, with the possibility to add the other one. it also runs mac os x just fine btw. beat that.. anything beyond that is just paying for the logo the laptop would have had.
@bluesdealer You can't be serious! They ad a lot to the hardware price, especially if you look at high end computers. I once tested out what you could get for the same price of a 15000$ computer they sell and using about the same or better hardware I could put in SSD's instead of HDD (same size of course). They take 15000$ for a computer worth 1500$! And if you want a laptop you will get more for the money if you buy Ultrabooks, especially when Ivy Bridge comes out.
@bluesdealer Lol @ your construction engineer analogy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH that was hilarious XD good one bro! good one! XD keep em coming!! I never laughed so hard in my entire life LOOOOO-OMG I'M SHOCKING!!! HELP ME GAWD!!! HELP MEEEEEEE!!!!! construction engineer!!! HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHA HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA!!!! any more jokes like that?? your sense of humour could cure cancer ANY TIME!!! cheers!
@bluesdealer Don't be ridiculous. Building your own desktop PC is far cheaper. A high-end desktop PC will cost around 1/4 of a Mac with similar specs. I agree OS X is superior, that's why I'm on a custom-built PC right now...running OS X Lion. I have had no compatibility problems with my hardware.
Macbooks are more competitive, but again, if you can find a nice laptop from a good company that is compatible with OS X, there is no reason to sell an arm and a leg for Apple products.
Apple releases shit every single day, the Iphone is one of the only phones that is not Drop Tested, the PCs apple makes are made out of low grade material and hardware, and overpriced, the software apple produces cripples their own hardware by under clocking the Processor, the ipod touch has the highest failure rate of any mp3 player on the market, incidentally also not drop tested.
This dick made a business out of selling shit for exorbitant prices to old people and dickey wearing hipsters.
@PigeonSnackWrap $5000 for a 2.66 GHz 12-core(possibly 24 with hyperthreading, i'm not sure if hyperthreading works with multiple cpu's), 6 GB of memory, 1TB HDD, dual-layer reading dvd drive, and a Radeon HD 5770. It'd be pretty easy to build a better pc for that price.
people will compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges in products like what Steve said, Apple just lays it out all on the table for the consumer. I think the only price difference you might see and pay a bit more for is the operating system which is worth every extra penny.
Compare Apple's desktop or laptop offerings to Dell or HP all day long. Do it all day long. I can't disagree, but one thing you're going to find is something like what I found when I went down to the university bookstore the other day.
I found a Macintosh desktop computer with virtually identical technical specifications and the same effective hardware from the same designers (e.g. Intel, nVidia) at the same price as a Dell laptop. Would you rather have a laptop or a desktop for the same price?
I've had the same 17" laptop going on 6 years now, the only thing I had to replace was the screen. After a couple upgrades like the ram doubled to 4gb and the hard rive from 120 to 500gb. It suits me just fine. I like it because it's XP of course. I don't favor Vista or 7. After testing with 7 for a while. I warmed up to it a bit. But whoever bought Vista is a complete sucker. It's actually worse than a Mac go figure. o_O
My laptop vs a macbook at approximately the same price
Laptop: Intel core I7 (1.73ghz), 1GB ATI mobility radeon 5870, Dynaudio speakers, 1TB hard drive, 6Gb DDR3 RAM. Price: £990
Macbook: Intel core I5 (2.4ghz), Intel graphics 3000, Mac speakers, 500gb hard disk drive, 4Gb DDR3 RAM. Price: £1000
Mac's aren't premium priced my ass. My laptop is better in almost every way except battery life, cost me £10 less and is made by a decent manufacturer.
Your i7 at 1.73 Ghz vs. the Apple i5 at 2.4Ghz... and of course the i5 gets better battery life.
You just made the best case for Apple not being overpriced I've ever heard.
I remember back in the days of the PC Clone Wars, when people would buy one PC clone over another because it was $50 cheaper without knowing anything about the brands or quality issues.
I thought they were dumb then, too.
By the way, what did you spend on Anti-Virus software?
@Jkirk3279 Do you have any knowledge at all about computers or do you just spout off crap like this to your friends and family to intelligent? You only compared one thing realistically; battery life. You don't even know what his power settings are. It could also have a smaller screen than a Macbook. I personally think the OP paid too much for that i7 rig, but he probably liked it. Same reason Macbook fans dump $2500+ on their hardware. /shrug
@Jkirk3279 oh come off it, an i7 processor which has hyper-threading enabled which means the OS sees it as an 8 core processor, intel graphics vs ATI dedicated graphics (no contest there), 1Tb vs 500gb hard drive space and 6gb vs 4gb RAM, also i spent nothing on antivirus software considering MSE is pretty solid and is free. I seriously hope you are a troll my friend, either that or your the biggest macfag i've ever seen.
@Jkirk3279 I don't need to pay attention to stupid people when I know the facts. Apple is not as good as the opensource community, and therefore sucks ass. Why do they have that money? Overcharging their "customers".
@jonvincent12 You're just jealous they have money. Don't you find it ironic that the most popular open source software are almost always the ones supported by some private organisation? Only things that have some kind of financial benefit to some company or other seem to proliferate. I'm all for open source, but most of it sucks and is incredibly poorly designed.
Really Steve? Well my last Mackbook pro's GPU has gone twice (not to mention the power supply and battery issues) and Apple couldn't/wouldn't diagnose it and have been of no help - they've actually blocked me from the support group and deleted a thread of about 60 pages where people were discussing this issue. I've been using Apple for 20+ years and have 5 macs in the house right now, not including IOS devices and I'm considering going to the dark side for the first time since DOS. Bad Apple.
Yeah, i agree, I had a shitty Windows 7 Laptop it was made out of low-grade plastic, had a terrible mate screen, it's mousepad would get stuck and jump. It was the worse piece of ship ever. It was HP I believe. It cost $700AUD Got a MacBook Pro made out a aluminum, back-light keyboard. Sleek in design. Had better specs a nice screen. People who take shortcuts and choose to pay 700 instead of 1300 - 2000 dollars are idiots. They last longer are better build quality. Amazing.
@ActuallyLiam Windows is software, HP is a hardware manufacturer. MacBook is hardware, MacOS is software. Notice you need to bitch to HP, not Windows. Besides, Apple makes you pay more for the same or similar hardware normally made from the same people for more. Apple doesn't make all their harddrives, motherboards, RAM, etc in house. They go to the same damn people as HP, Dell, MSI, ASUS, Acer, etc.
My $1K Dell has had no issues whatsoever hardware or OS side yet.
@ActuallyLiam Yes, if you take shortcuts and buy the cheapest shit, expect to get shit quality. But remember, PC manufacturers don't just sell the cheap shit, they also sell quality products that surpass the great Apple products. Then again, Apples and PCs serve different purposes. Hence why Macs work best with media, Windows on PCs with home and business, and Linux on PCs with server and backbone stuff.
@ActuallyLiam FOR THAT PRICE they are OBLIGATE to be better! you CANNOT compare computer of $700 with computer of $2000!!! GET a laptop for $2000 and compare it with that Apple junk and then we can talk again...
@ActuallyLiam I could build a $2500 Mac Pro, better hardware wise (better cooling, faster processor, steel tower, better gpu), for around $800 (~$860 for it with Lion). You'd pay an extra $1600-$1700 for a worse computer just because it has a little apple on the side and you're too lazy to learn how to build your own?
@Ye4hBuddy Yeah, we are talking about Laptops. Not towers, I've got a custom computer myself. I'm referring to branded ones. I couldn't care if it's got an apple on the side. I like the metal aluminum build of my macbook the only other laptops I found that are metallic cost around the same and I need OSX for the applications I have. I could Hackintosh it. But it would be pretty pointless when i can buy a macbook for the same price as a metallic notebook.
@ActuallyLiam Not true at all, there is an Alienware laptop with almost identical specs to a macbook pro 17" for $1000 less. The model is M17x R3, if you wanted to know. I can understand if you have software that can only be used on macs, that warrants the purchase of a mac, but don't ever try and tell me that macs can be the same price or cheaper than a comparable pc.
@Ye4hBuddy you're comparing apples and oranges. Yes you could build a consumer grade desktop with better specs for less, but a Mac Pro is not a consumer product and is very rarely purchased by consumers. Go check out the retail on an IBM with those specs and come back here and bitch.
@rcpiercy11 Why would corporations pay more for a Mac Pro vs. a pc with better specs? You're not making any sense. Also, I'm not comparing apples to oranges, I'm comparing computers to computers. My point is still valid.
@1248163264128256512 At no point did I say desktop, I as comparing laptops. In-fact I have a top of the line desktop which I build myself. It cost me $900AUD to build and it works great. We are talking about premade off-the-shelf laptops. If you went to a shop or online and compared them Apple's Laptops are superior IMO. I know you can find Gaming Laptops that might be better, but they also weigh several Kilograms.
@ActuallyLiam I got my gamer PC that I have for 3 years now, never broke or crashed on me once, works perfectly and it was cheaper then some lower en macs, pce.
I was making a reference to the statistical improbability that your statement is true.
I am a Microsoft MVP and have been using Windows for at least a decade. I have 3 windows devices at this very moment and have probably bought 15 over the years. (all of them are very high-end laptops or performance desktops).
I am also a huge techy and do not use my pc like a "cvomplete ignorent dumbass"
But I have not gone 1 month without any one crashing...you went 3 years...Right...
@ls600h1 Believe it or not, 2-3 years as if now not one crash, I did reformat my pc but just cause i was to lazy to manually earase all the programms and games i didnts need.
@ChowderScripts Where did I mention PCs? I was referring to laptops. HP laptop vs Macbook Pro. Not a custom built PC. Which I myself have it works great.
Umm, that's not the point. Marketing makes old products obsolete. It doesn't matter how sturdy an item is. It WILL be obsolete in due time. You honestly think you'll hold onto that MacBook for 5-10 years? Yeah, dream on.
@ActuallyLiam it works both ways. You get what you pay for, but if you buy a Mac, you're paying for a brand.
You could buy a 10 year old $50 laptop on ebay and say illustrate the false economy, but it isn't a representative example.
The best you can achieve is to build a desktop yourself. My workstation has better specs than a Mac Pro (Dual Xeon, GTX 580), is water cooled and cost 1/3 the price. Unfortunately it doesn't really work for laptops, but most people never unplug their laptops anyway
@ActuallyLiam Except Lenovo. Lenovo is the only PC maker that makes extremely high quality products. They also make the TOUGHEST laptops in the world. (ThinkPad line)
@waytomuchsparetime Unless you guys took Nuclear Bombs to the ThinkPads or used some industrial type device such as a Jackhammer, you cant just "destroy" a ThinkPad. If you're talking about drilling through the Hard Drive, well, you just as easily do that on a Mac. :)
@LittleBIGRacer Ummm, I think this is the third year so 2.5 years old. And they are Lenovo Thinkpads, as for the model I don't know, but they aren't thin. I'd say 1.5 inches thick. Disappointing that they're wrecked but we have a warranty where we can have them replaced, thankfully.
@waytomuchsparetime What have the kids been doing with them?! How old are they? I've had Lenovo ThinkPads (2 actually, since they're lasted me FOREVER) in conduction with my MacBook Pro and they've NEVER gotten damaged, even when I dropped my last one on broken jagged concrete and when my other one got drenched in the rain. o_o
@CHOFOable My computers real, its not made by apple. It's an all in one has better specs than any Apple iMac, for a lot less cheaper and is still working even after purchasing 2 years ago :O. Shitty PC? nah, did I mention it also does video processing, shocker isn't it. Seriously though, Apple is nothing special they only good thing they make are notebooks other than that, nothing really stands out.
God, this guy is a legend, please return him! But really, the exemplary standards and the products Apple set and will keep making are going to keep the innovative spirit of USA going for another century or two or more...
China hasn't invented anything in the past 20 years. Their economy sucks. Their environment sucks even more. Their technology is cheap and stolen or copied from other better brands or companies.
And the fact that China has connections with Japan or Russia doesn't make the country better.
@jvclark2 What I'm saying is that they won't be able to run their business like they have been for a very long while at sometime in the future. Android is evolving too fast for things to stay the same forever. Android is open source, easier to code and test for, development works on more than one platform and there's nothing that Apple has that Google can't.
@brokenthorn15 Well, no company lasts forever. HP is leaving the computer business even... who would have ever saw that coming. And within 10 years Dell may leave it also. Right now Apple is the most American made computer on the market, that might not seem like much, but to people who want to support America, they won't buy a Japanese designed laptop. Apple is America's best card to play in someday creating a tech industry in America where we not only design them but can build them here also.
@Ruttie2 I didn't say the Mac was 100% US made, I said it is the MOST American made computer. The OS, programs, etc is designed by Americans and the machines are also. the only part that is not is manufacturing.... that is a lot more than most companies do. As for Google, good for them, I am glad Google is doing well, I have an Android phone myself, I just want the tech industry to stay in the US and not be exported to India so we can keep those jobs here.
@Ruttie2 I know every component isn't made by Apple. I already explained that it is not 100% Apple made. I know many components are manufactured by other companies & in Asia, etc... That doesn't negate my point though in the least though.
@WizzRacing watch?v=vmYkRF5t1dk I'm not making anything up, american boy. They? Uneducated? Ahahahaha, you idiots have the lowest education in the world, your economy is horrible, you're dictatorship is obvious and the people are poor as well. 46% of the average american is poor. They have the wealthiest gold reserve, while you morons have been printing paper, that isn't worth anything. Sorry, times change, China is grown up now.
@Ruttie2 I said show me a patent in the last 20 years, not some youtube video. Now get to work and start thinking for you're self before you fall prey to idiot speech!
@WizzRacing Patents? I'm not showing you any goddamn thing, ameretard. If you're so ''educated'' then why not search for it yourself? Fetch boy, fetch! ROFL
@WizzRacing Patents? I'm not showing you any goddamn thing, ameretard. If you're so ''educated'' then why not search for it yourself? Fetch boy, fetch! ROFL
@S0Iari@S0Iari But China is 12 years more advanced in technology than Apple and America combined. Because of connections with Russia and Japan, China is number
one in education, technology and economy. Beat that.
1:27 So true. Proven nowadays with UltraBooks struggling to get up to Apple quality.
Years after the MacBook Air, competition is just starting to get better but still make flimsy, clunky products that breathe lack of attention to details... *and* not even cheaper at that!
Lenovo, ASUS, Acer, Toshiba... All design by committee.
@DickKnowsBest Exactly. There will never be a "winner" yet people are trying to make it seem that way. it depends on what you like. I like mac, but i've had my experience with windows, and its not bad, but i do prefer mac. These people need to stop fighting and just come to grips with its all about what THEY like..
@DickKnowsBest Don't bother with these nut jobs. They never owned one and then tell you how it's all marketing. It's like people telling you what car to buy and they never even owned one!
WHO THE FUCK CARES IF IT'S OVERPRICED! You can't tell me what the fuck to buy. I BUY THOUSAND DOLLAR COMPUTERS BECAUSE THEY LOOK GOOD AND MY SHIT RUNS FAST! My windows computer, with nothing on it, ran like a peice of shit. Don't tell me that its for dumbasses, when in every movie, TV show, ANYTHING, you always see and apple logo or a computer modeled after an apple product... Its bullshit that people try to tell US what to buy. NEWS FLASH: you're not changing my mind...
what he really means about stripped down products is apple force you to have every sucky application on their over priced pieces of dog shit, fuck apple they fucking fail on every level, jobs is lying through his fucking teeth in this video and btw final cut pro sucks cock
I notice most the people that say Macs are a status symbol are kids under the age of 20. That right there tells you they are gamers and have no clue what a computer is really for. On top of that they have no remorse or ethics about stealing software. Which means they are of low moral character and I would not hire anybody that is a thief.
The fact is if you had to pay for it, Apple and Macs are a better choice. Along with apples customer service and extended Apple care package is a winner.
Apple and mac hardware is exactly the same now, pc's have much bigger power, all the guys at university have started switching back to pc's as they are tired of running slow expensive dated hardware. They admit the mac is all about image it puts to other people. Like saying "I have lots of money, I can afford a mac" same reason people buy expensive clothes. Cool people who know they are cool do not need to impress some fags, therefore get more powerful hardware and WOW isnt windows 7 amazing
Apple builds products that are top of the line they look and feel good. He is right about their products. You can buy a Mac and go straight to film\audio editing and never need to buy that $400.00 software. Mac's can rip DVD's and Blue Rays without using any decryption software. They include over $1100.00 in software that PC users need to buy to just use it. So in the end you are better off buying a Mac. Now if you want to steal software people will use Windows the most bootlegged on the planet!
@WizzRacing all mac software can be downloaded as warez , and that 400$ software can be paid out off the money you saved , since you can save way more than that and even get better specs
@SooLibyan People use Windows cause they can steal 90% of the software for it. One reason people use them. I might also add most people use Windows to play games on. So your really paying $900.00 for a game machine. People that buy Mac's use them for creating applications, Audio\Video editing etc.. Apple also makes sure 3rd party software can not use the Kernel. One reason it is stable 95% of the time.
There is hardly zero Mac Warez applications that work correct, User beware.
@WizzRacing PCs are the #1 choice for businesses and and accounting and gaming , and it can do whatever a mac can do in editing , except apple does it better
you can't tell me why people by PCs or macs you can only tell me what they can do
and all mac software is available through warez sites , but i bet you can't find windows software either
and not being able to access the kernel is what makes it less customizable and suck at gaming
@SooLibyan Like I just said people use use windows to play games. Apple lets you create better, faster, and more stable. Apple never has been or will be a gaming O.S. they make consoles for that.
I used to steal software before you were probably born. BBS, news groups, and FTP sites come to mind. Then I realized it's like walking into a store and walking out without paying for it. You buy a Mac and you don't need to buy $1100.00 worth of crap that never works right to start with.
@SooLibyan You better look closer. Businesses use UNIX mainframe software. The Windows client administrators that know what they are doing, lock most the shit out, so noobs can't crash the system. The accounting software used could be Siebel, SAP, or Peachtree none of that is made by Microsoft.
You're not to bright are you. I really doubt you ever been in or worked inside large I.T. department or you would know that!
I prefer apple, but who the fuck cares? Stop bitching about which one is better/ They are fucking products!!! Next I bet your gonna argue about whether McDonalds is better than Burger King. It's a matter of taste!
@jackozzy why don't u read your info before commenting you dumbfuck. Their products are made in California, ASSEMBLED in China, meaning that they only build it, not make it.
Apple ships mountains of junk nobody needs that end up in toxic landfill. All of it made in slave labour sweatshops as millions of Americans live in abject poverty. It makes apple wealthy therefore Jobs is yankee national hero.
Valkyriepure 4 days ago
LENOVO SUUUUUUUUUCKKKSSS
zungaloca 1 week ago
I bought a computer tower that had a Intel Core 2 Q8300, 4GB Corsair RAM, 1TB Hard Drive, 9800GTX+ 1GB, 450w PSU, and Windows 7 Ultimate just under £400, I also bought an AOC 21.5" 1920 x 1080 Monitor for £95, some speakers that were £10 and a Microsoft brand mouse and keyboard for £20, so in total it was around £525 for the total amount. That was two years ago.
Checking the Apple online store the cheapest is £999, and its exactly the same as mine, except with only 500GB instead of 1TB.
liamlunasee 1 week ago
@liamlunasee software and ecosystem are the main value-adds for macs and other apple products, something many people just ignore when they say they're overpriced.
jamaldeemer 1 week ago
@jamaldeemer Hardly, the software is not something you can justify over around £500 for, and please explain why you think the ecosystem of a product can make it more expensive, there are many explanations to this.
liamlunasee 1 week ago
@liamlunasee Those things don't necessarily make them costlier to produce, but they add value for certain people. For example, if you're looking for a gaming pc, Macs are a horrible value, but if you value other things, like content creation software, or the way Apple products interact, or the app store, or aesthetics, or numerous other things, you might be willing to pay more on hardware so you can have access to those exclusive things. This is the core of Apple's success.
jamaldeemer 1 week ago
@jamaldeemer They add value for some I agree with that but everything else are all gimmicks on Apples side to help to get more customers, it is commonly said that apple has better software for creation type software, but this is software it can easily be made for Windows OS computers, and the App store, thats just a database of software, PCs don't need that. People are just buying apple products for those reasons and I agree, but they aren't necessaraly worth it or justifiable for tis cost.
liamlunasee 6 days ago
@liamlunasee
But you are totally missing the point.
Using your logic, BMW would never sell any cars, because Honda also make perfectly fine cars that have 4 wheels and an engine which is comparable to a BMW engine in many respects. Honda's are safe and reliable, and look nice to most people. But, anyone who buys a new BMW could have bought a Honda for much less, but didn't.
The reason they don't is also why people buy Apple.
VHSpal 1 week ago
@VHSpal No, I am talking about a product that has the exact same components in, the iMac does not have any components specifically made by Apple, they can be used in other computers that are not made by apple.
If BMW made a car that had the exact same components in as a car made by Honda, but charged twice as much, you can expect many people to make this obvious, there would also be many reviews made by lets say Top Gear about this.
liamlunasee 1 week ago
@liamlunasee But if someone loved BMW cars and wasn't interested in the competition then they would buy the BMW, if someone questioned them they would easily say its a BMW. Thats how branding works and how Apples customers work, they say a Mac can do so many things that a PC can't but really a PC can do anything a Mac can do its just most Apple customers will not look into it to see for themselves and the rest will not care about PCs they will only buy Macs because its an Apple product
liamlunasee 1 week ago
@liamlunasee Also I am not missing the point, I am saying an Apple Mac should not be £999 when a two year old PC with the exact same components that was considered mid-range at the time (and now low-range) is worth £525 which is now probably worth a lot lower. The difference between the two is still that the Mac has a fancier case and a different OS, nothing anybody can say can justify their pricing other than, its Apple, people will buy it because its Apple and they can get away with it.
liamlunasee 1 week ago
@liamlunasee You do understand the reason for the cost is because the use of aluminum body and the glass screen? Don't believe me? Go look at the Dell Adamo, a computer made with the same high-quality materials a MacBook Pro is made out of. Go look at a Lenovo ThinkPad (Not made of the same aluminum, but made of industrial-strength materials) they're also the same price. The other PCs are cheaper because they use plastic screens and housings.
LittleBIGRacer 2 days ago
@liamlunasee
Dang!
Should have gotten me a Windows 7 instead. I grew up with Windows and switch to a Mac is a whole new experience for me.
GamesAndTechTV 2 days ago
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0:50 lowest price we can? Really? Apple profit margin was ridiculously high 23,4% where other manufactures have 4-7% profit margin. C´mon Steve you do not have to lie to people.
Warrantti 1 week ago
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Warrantti 1 week ago
wtf is this shit
4nc3st0r 1 week ago
Or Goal is to rule the world oh s**T that was on video O.O
kiraofthewasteland 2 weeks ago
Last time I checked, thick white polycarbonate was junk. Notice nothing uses it anymore?
LittleBIGRacer 2 weeks ago
what a bunch of morons pc laptops have 3d compatible macs dont so fucking shut up
OfficialTedWilliams 2 weeks ago
@OfficialTedWilliams 3D is a retarded gimmick. There is no benefit at all from 3D. It's not going to launch anywhere.
LittleBIGRacer 2 weeks ago
@OfficialTedWilliams what?
tugafighter 1 week ago
Hahaha Molly Wood
mrshauntham 3 weeks ago
I like Mac and PC both. I've got a PC, but my dream is buying a iMac.
lpfanhun 3 weeks ago 2
Good question :)
Ograws 3 weeks ago
RIP Steve
Mo7amm2d555 3 weeks ago
How many people thought that Steve would recommend that Phil Shiller would be the next CEO of apple in his resignation letter?
SuperAppleFanatic1 3 weeks ago
@SuperAppleFanatic1
I was leaning towards Tim Cook but I did consider the Phil Schiller road.
ls600h1 3 weeks ago
it's Simple
Mac OS > Windows
DeveloperLK 3 weeks ago
iphones are junk. Pure junk. I stand behind my statement fully with a clear conscience and honest heart!!
YZ450f24 3 weeks ago
@YZ450f24
Your opinion is useless unless you can back it up somehow. How can you call the one phone that made phones awesome junk?
ls600h1 3 weeks ago
@YZ450f24
U can say whatever u want :)
but other phones i seen in market won't even get updates after 1.5 year :) and therefore cannot run latest apps.
cdnml 2 weeks ago
@cdnml you can update any android phone to any version you like
4nc3st0r 1 week ago
@4nc3st0r
Yes u can update by depending relentlessly on xda guys instead of OEMs.
Why should i depend on some random dudes when i bought a good phone with high price tag ?
cdnml 15 hours ago
@cdnml you don't depend on anyone, just unlock the bootloader, and flash any stock android rom. no need for xda members. it's your freedom
4nc3st0r 9 hours ago
@YZ450f24 good for you
cosineninja 1 week ago
well that answer shut her up :L
CharlieMay16 3 weeks ago
Really Molly?
bertocaster 3 weeks ago
Sorry but there are other better products than apple and cheap
MarcoMachadoaz09 4 weeks ago
Lol @ people talking about building PCs. That's like a construction engineer saying he could build himself a house for cheaper than a company could.
When I bought my MacBook pro, I compared it to laptops with similar specs by other high-end manufacturers and the price was petty damn competitive. And that's not even comparing the intangibles like Apple's rigorous quality control, OCD-excellent construction, and unmatched design.
Don't forget the far superior OSX, which perfectly integrates
bluesdealer 1 month ago 18
@bluesdealer Actually there was a study done that showed Asus had the most reliable laptops. Apple placed 4th. Secondly, you're construction engineer analogy isn't comparable because that's entirely different, you absolutely do not need to be any kind of engineer to build a PC, it's no more difficult than building with Lego blocks. And what exactly is OS X superior to and in which way? Because my PC runs both Windows and Linux. Are you going to try and tell me OS X is superior to Linux? LOL.
RH00D2 3 weeks ago
@bluesdealer bought a far superior dell laptop (xps 15), same specs as the best possible mac book pro, 700€ cheaper. excellent design, good quality, and it has one of the two most compatible operating systems built in, with the possibility to add the other one. it also runs mac os x just fine btw. beat that.. anything beyond that is just paying for the logo the laptop would have had.
4nc3st0r 1 week ago
@bluesdealer You're full of shit
GtheMVP 1 week ago
@GtheMVP we're all full of shit. that's what we have large intestines for.
cosineninja 1 week ago
@cosineninja lol, funny that I'm actually on the toilet as I'm reading/typing this :D
GtheMVP 1 week ago
@bluesdealer Lets settle this over a game of BF3? Ohh wait... ;)
The0chabo 1 week ago
@bluesdealer the software is what sells the macs for me. I just can't take the poorly designed bloatware.
Garegin 1 week ago
@bluesdealer You can't be serious! They ad a lot to the hardware price, especially if you look at high end computers. I once tested out what you could get for the same price of a 15000$ computer they sell and using about the same or better hardware I could put in SSD's instead of HDD (same size of course). They take 15000$ for a computer worth 1500$! And if you want a laptop you will get more for the money if you buy Ultrabooks, especially when Ivy Bridge comes out.
zalastax 6 days ago
@bluesdealer Lol @ your construction engineer analogy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH that was hilarious XD good one bro! good one! XD keep em coming!! I never laughed so hard in my entire life LOOOOO-OMG I'M SHOCKING!!! HELP ME GAWD!!! HELP MEEEEEEE!!!!! construction engineer!!! HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHA HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA!!!! any more jokes like that?? your sense of humour could cure cancer ANY TIME!!! cheers!
dogzer 4 days ago
@bluesdealer You're very correct.
nicdem25 4 days ago
@bluesdealer
xRaIDeNx69 23 hours ago
@bluesdealer Don't be ridiculous. Building your own desktop PC is far cheaper. A high-end desktop PC will cost around 1/4 of a Mac with similar specs. I agree OS X is superior, that's why I'm on a custom-built PC right now...running OS X Lion. I have had no compatibility problems with my hardware.
Macbooks are more competitive, but again, if you can find a nice laptop from a good company that is compatible with OS X, there is no reason to sell an arm and a leg for Apple products.
pvtryaan 11 hours ago
One word. iCRAP
TheJaceMaster 1 month ago
Woah that's Molly Woods? I've never heard her speak in a serious tone lol.
gobipill 1 month ago
@gobipill Isn't it. Lol she is adorable, her sarcasm skills are the best I've seen
ThomasRojan 3 weeks ago
no you offer stripped down locked up overpriced pruducks
FreeForAllGamerz 1 month ago
Apple releases shit every single day, the Iphone is one of the only phones that is not Drop Tested, the PCs apple makes are made out of low grade material and hardware, and overpriced, the software apple produces cripples their own hardware by under clocking the Processor, the ipod touch has the highest failure rate of any mp3 player on the market, incidentally also not drop tested.
This dick made a business out of selling shit for exorbitant prices to old people and dickey wearing hipsters.
Southparker100000000 1 month ago
RIP steve thank you for your incredible contributions to human kind
boogiebuddy01 1 month ago
i true man of integrity and vision
boogiebuddy01 1 month ago
turns out cancers, got a job
TrollingHardcore 1 month ago
have a 3 year old MacBook Pro 15" - use it every day ... looks like new!
germandude1982 1 month ago
@WizzRacing i can build a pc thats 100 times better than any mac...name your price
PigeonSnackWrap 1 month ago
@PigeonSnackWrap $5000 for a 2.66 GHz 12-core(possibly 24 with hyperthreading, i'm not sure if hyperthreading works with multiple cpu's), 6 GB of memory, 1TB HDD, dual-layer reading dvd drive, and a Radeon HD 5770. It'd be pretty easy to build a better pc for that price.
Ye4hBuddy 1 month ago
they don't ship junk? since when?
WXB1973 1 month ago
@WXB1973 since Apple was created.... asswipe
ForsakenThirteen 1 month ago
Steves jobs voice just brings up the happiness in the room :) R.I.P Steve Jobs
CharlieTheVFXPro 1 month ago
people will compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges in products like what Steve said, Apple just lays it out all on the table for the consumer. I think the only price difference you might see and pay a bit more for is the operating system which is worth every extra penny.
artsilvaphoto 1 month ago
Compare Apple's desktop or laptop offerings to Dell or HP all day long. Do it all day long. I can't disagree, but one thing you're going to find is something like what I found when I went down to the university bookstore the other day.
I found a Macintosh desktop computer with virtually identical technical specifications and the same effective hardware from the same designers (e.g. Intel, nVidia) at the same price as a Dell laptop. Would you rather have a laptop or a desktop for the same price?
Redfingers 1 month ago
I've had the same 17" laptop going on 6 years now, the only thing I had to replace was the screen. After a couple upgrades like the ram doubled to 4gb and the hard rive from 120 to 500gb. It suits me just fine. I like it because it's XP of course. I don't favor Vista or 7. After testing with 7 for a while. I warmed up to it a bit. But whoever bought Vista is a complete sucker. It's actually worse than a Mac go figure. o_O
gredangeo 1 month ago
My laptop vs a macbook at approximately the same price
Laptop: Intel core I7 (1.73ghz), 1GB ATI mobility radeon 5870, Dynaudio speakers, 1TB hard drive, 6Gb DDR3 RAM. Price: £990
Macbook: Intel core I5 (2.4ghz), Intel graphics 3000, Mac speakers, 500gb hard disk drive, 4Gb DDR3 RAM. Price: £1000
Mac's aren't premium priced my ass. My laptop is better in almost every way except battery life, cost me £10 less and is made by a decent manufacturer.
coolgra101 1 month ago
@coolgra101 I think the main difference is that, you are using Windows
MarMarZwinZ 1 month ago
@coolgra101 10 pounds less?
Your i7 at 1.73 Ghz vs. the Apple i5 at 2.4Ghz... and of course the i5 gets better battery life.
You just made the best case for Apple not being overpriced I've ever heard.
I remember back in the days of the PC Clone Wars, when people would buy one PC clone over another because it was $50 cheaper without knowing anything about the brands or quality issues.
I thought they were dumb then, too.
By the way, what did you spend on Anti-Virus software?
Jkirk3279 1 month ago
@Jkirk3279 Do you have any knowledge at all about computers or do you just spout off crap like this to your friends and family to intelligent? You only compared one thing realistically; battery life. You don't even know what his power settings are. It could also have a smaller screen than a Macbook. I personally think the OP paid too much for that i7 rig, but he probably liked it. Same reason Macbook fans dump $2500+ on their hardware. /shrug
ChristRaper666 1 month ago
@Jkirk3279 oh come off it, an i7 processor which has hyper-threading enabled which means the OS sees it as an 8 core processor, intel graphics vs ATI dedicated graphics (no contest there), 1Tb vs 500gb hard drive space and 6gb vs 4gb RAM, also i spent nothing on antivirus software considering MSE is pretty solid and is free. I seriously hope you are a troll my friend, either that or your the biggest macfag i've ever seen.
coolgra101 1 month ago
They don't ship junk? Then they're going out of business.
jonvincent12 1 month ago
@jonvincent12 You haven't been paying attention. Apple is the biggest electronics company in the world with $80 Billion in reserves alone.
Jkirk3279 1 month ago
@Jkirk3279 I don't need to pay attention to stupid people when I know the facts. Apple is not as good as the opensource community, and therefore sucks ass. Why do they have that money? Overcharging their "customers".
jonvincent12 1 month ago
@jonvincent12 You're just jealous they have money. Don't you find it ironic that the most popular open source software are almost always the ones supported by some private organisation? Only things that have some kind of financial benefit to some company or other seem to proliferate. I'm all for open source, but most of it sucks and is incredibly poorly designed.
TalesOfWar 1 month ago
@Jkirk3279 don't be funny! Apple its the bigger DESIGN company in the world!!!
YavorAtanasovUs 1 month ago
Really Steve? Well my last Mackbook pro's GPU has gone twice (not to mention the power supply and battery issues) and Apple couldn't/wouldn't diagnose it and have been of no help - they've actually blocked me from the support group and deleted a thread of about 60 pages where people were discussing this issue. I've been using Apple for 20+ years and have 5 macs in the house right now, not including IOS devices and I'm considering going to the dark side for the first time since DOS. Bad Apple.
DoctorJezz 1 month ago
Yeah, i agree, I had a shitty Windows 7 Laptop it was made out of low-grade plastic, had a terrible mate screen, it's mousepad would get stuck and jump. It was the worse piece of ship ever. It was HP I believe. It cost $700AUD Got a MacBook Pro made out a aluminum, back-light keyboard. Sleek in design. Had better specs a nice screen. People who take shortcuts and choose to pay 700 instead of 1300 - 2000 dollars are idiots. They last longer are better build quality. Amazing.
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PurpleMcNuggets 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam Windows is software, HP is a hardware manufacturer. MacBook is hardware, MacOS is software. Notice you need to bitch to HP, not Windows. Besides, Apple makes you pay more for the same or similar hardware normally made from the same people for more. Apple doesn't make all their harddrives, motherboards, RAM, etc in house. They go to the same damn people as HP, Dell, MSI, ASUS, Acer, etc.
My $1K Dell has had no issues whatsoever hardware or OS side yet.
PurpleMcNuggets 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam Yes, if you take shortcuts and buy the cheapest shit, expect to get shit quality. But remember, PC manufacturers don't just sell the cheap shit, they also sell quality products that surpass the great Apple products. Then again, Apples and PCs serve different purposes. Hence why Macs work best with media, Windows on PCs with home and business, and Linux on PCs with server and backbone stuff.
PurpleMcNuggets 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam Same Exact Story. My Hp's Screen Broke. It would cost $500, to replace it, I've been told. Not worth it.
LogoLaughs 1 month ago
@LogoLaughs Odd, because just the screen components are about $100. I had to look up the cost of replacing a MacBook screen once for somebody.
Jkirk3279 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam FOR THAT PRICE they are OBLIGATE to be better! you CANNOT compare computer of $700 with computer of $2000!!! GET a laptop for $2000 and compare it with that Apple junk and then we can talk again...
YavorAtanasovUs 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam I could build a $2500 Mac Pro, better hardware wise (better cooling, faster processor, steel tower, better gpu), for around $800 (~$860 for it with Lion). You'd pay an extra $1600-$1700 for a worse computer just because it has a little apple on the side and you're too lazy to learn how to build your own?
Ye4hBuddy 1 month ago
@Ye4hBuddy Yeah, we are talking about Laptops. Not towers, I've got a custom computer myself. I'm referring to branded ones. I couldn't care if it's got an apple on the side. I like the metal aluminum build of my macbook the only other laptops I found that are metallic cost around the same and I need OSX for the applications I have. I could Hackintosh it. But it would be pretty pointless when i can buy a macbook for the same price as a metallic notebook.
ActuallyLiam 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam Not true at all, there is an Alienware laptop with almost identical specs to a macbook pro 17" for $1000 less. The model is M17x R3, if you wanted to know. I can understand if you have software that can only be used on macs, that warrants the purchase of a mac, but don't ever try and tell me that macs can be the same price or cheaper than a comparable pc.
Ye4hBuddy 1 month ago
@Ye4hBuddy you're comparing apples and oranges. Yes you could build a consumer grade desktop with better specs for less, but a Mac Pro is not a consumer product and is very rarely purchased by consumers. Go check out the retail on an IBM with those specs and come back here and bitch.
rcpiercy11 1 month ago
@rcpiercy11 Why would corporations pay more for a Mac Pro vs. a pc with better specs? You're not making any sense. Also, I'm not comparing apples to oranges, I'm comparing computers to computers. My point is still valid.
Ye4hBuddy 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam i built my own pc that cost me around £750 thats better than any imac on the market today. :) i think ill stick to shitty old pc.
1248163264128256512 1 month ago
@1248163264128256512 At no point did I say desktop, I as comparing laptops. In-fact I have a top of the line desktop which I build myself. It cost me $900AUD to build and it works great. We are talking about premade off-the-shelf laptops. If you went to a shop or online and compared them Apple's Laptops are superior IMO. I know you can find Gaming Laptops that might be better, but they also weigh several Kilograms.
ActuallyLiam 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam its cheap shit bro its made in china.
SONIC29210 1 month ago
@SONIC29210 If everything made in China is cheap shit, then apparently the United States and, hell, the world, is chock full of cheap shit.
gobipill 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam I got my gamer PC that I have for 3 years now, never broke or crashed on me once, works perfectly and it was cheaper then some lower en macs, pce.
ProfessionalGam3rz 1 month ago
@ProfessionalGam3rz
Never crashed? There's probably something wrong with it then. Take it to the local repair store...
ls600h1 3 weeks ago
@ls600h1 I just dont use my pc like a cvomeplete ignorent dumbass.
ProfessionalGam3rz 3 weeks ago
@ProfessionalGam3rz
I was making a reference to the statistical improbability that your statement is true.
I am a Microsoft MVP and have been using Windows for at least a decade. I have 3 windows devices at this very moment and have probably bought 15 over the years. (all of them are very high-end laptops or performance desktops).
I am also a huge techy and do not use my pc like a "cvomplete ignorent dumbass"
But I have not gone 1 month without any one crashing...you went 3 years...Right...
ls600h1 3 weeks ago
@ls600h1 Believe it or not, 2-3 years as if now not one crash, I did reformat my pc but just cause i was to lazy to manually earase all the programms and games i didnts need.
ProfessionalGam3rz 3 weeks ago
@ActuallyLiam I build my own pc's blow me.
ChowderScripts 1 month ago
@ChowderScripts Where did I mention PCs? I was referring to laptops. HP laptop vs Macbook Pro. Not a custom built PC. Which I myself have it works great.
ActuallyLiam 1 month ago
@ActuallyLiam
Umm, that's not the point. Marketing makes old products obsolete. It doesn't matter how sturdy an item is. It WILL be obsolete in due time. You honestly think you'll hold onto that MacBook for 5-10 years? Yeah, dream on.
KingdomheartsII 4 weeks ago
@ActuallyLiam it works both ways. You get what you pay for, but if you buy a Mac, you're paying for a brand.
You could buy a 10 year old $50 laptop on ebay and say illustrate the false economy, but it isn't a representative example.
The best you can achieve is to build a desktop yourself. My workstation has better specs than a Mac Pro (Dual Xeon, GTX 580), is water cooled and cost 1/3 the price. Unfortunately it doesn't really work for laptops, but most people never unplug their laptops anyway
ghelyar 3 weeks ago
@ActuallyLiam wow i have the same problem with my hp laptop :P
DubuqueRS 3 weeks ago
@ActuallyLiam So true...Cheaper also break easily so with repairs and services may cost more !
ForzaaPAOKARA 3 weeks ago
@ActuallyLiam Except Lenovo. Lenovo is the only PC maker that makes extremely high quality products. They also make the TOUGHEST laptops in the world. (ThinkPad line)
LittleBIGRacer 2 weeks ago 10
@LittleBIGRacer My school destroyed our ThinkPads
waytomuchsparetime 3 days ago
@waytomuchsparetime Unless you guys took Nuclear Bombs to the ThinkPads or used some industrial type device such as a Jackhammer, you cant just "destroy" a ThinkPad. If you're talking about drilling through the Hard Drive, well, you just as easily do that on a Mac. :)
LittleBIGRacer 2 days ago
@LittleBIGRacer Just general use and only 15 out of 20 work now, let alone not have any problems.
waytomuchsparetime 2 days ago
@waytomuchsparetime How old are they? Are you absolutely sure they're ThinkPads? Are they under the IBM or Lenovo name? Do you know the model?
LittleBIGRacer 2 days ago
@LittleBIGRacer Ummm, I think this is the third year so 2.5 years old. And they are Lenovo Thinkpads, as for the model I don't know, but they aren't thin. I'd say 1.5 inches thick. Disappointing that they're wrecked but we have a warranty where we can have them replaced, thankfully.
waytomuchsparetime 2 days ago
@waytomuchsparetime What have the kids been doing with them?! How old are they? I've had Lenovo ThinkPads (2 actually, since they're lasted me FOREVER) in conduction with my MacBook Pro and they've NEVER gotten damaged, even when I dropped my last one on broken jagged concrete and when my other one got drenched in the rain. o_o
LittleBIGRacer 1 day ago
well said
nicknb3 1 month ago
What are they shipping now?
chuninuzomaki 1 month ago
@chuninuzomaki real computers mate, not a shitty pc
CHOFOable 1 month ago
@CHOFOable My computers real, its not made by apple. It's an all in one has better specs than any Apple iMac, for a lot less cheaper and is still working even after purchasing 2 years ago :O. Shitty PC? nah, did I mention it also does video processing, shocker isn't it. Seriously though, Apple is nothing special they only good thing they make are notebooks other than that, nothing really stands out.
chuninuzomaki 1 month ago
No offense but Tim Cook is a suck-up to Steve. He wears the exact same clothes and always agrees with him and never argues
suvigisawesome 1 month ago
God, this guy is a legend, please return him! But really, the exemplary standards and the products Apple set and will keep making are going to keep the innovative spirit of USA going for another century or two or more...
UstadonKaUstad 1 month ago
@UstadonKaUstad Reed Jobs is a son of Steve Jobs and looks exactly like his father, watch here:
watch?v=z-cFz5krqo8
Maybe the next Apple CEO :)
spamtelevision 1 month ago
@Ruttie2
You sir, are speaking shit.
China hasn't invented anything in the past 20 years. Their economy sucks. Their environment sucks even more. Their technology is cheap and stolen or copied from other better brands or companies.
And the fact that China has connections with Japan or Russia doesn't make the country better.
Think before you say something stupid.
Drake0102 1 month ago
@Drake0102
sounds pretty much like what the german camera producers said about the japanese cameras in the 1960's
easy08154711 1 month ago
what was this event?
quqianyu 1 month ago
omg MOLLY WOODS!
urimizawe26 1 month ago 16
what competitors?
roserh6 2 months ago
@Jact9 apples not that expensive now-a-days
Jullzzzz 2 months ago
Sure they don't ship junk, I agree but if they do that, they basically have to compete with the whole world. I don't think they can do that forever.
brokenthorn15 2 months ago
@brokenthorn15 no one can do that forever
jvclark2 2 months ago
@jvclark2 What I'm saying is that they won't be able to run their business like they have been for a very long while at sometime in the future. Android is evolving too fast for things to stay the same forever. Android is open source, easier to code and test for, development works on more than one platform and there's nothing that Apple has that Google can't.
brokenthorn15 2 months ago
@brokenthorn15 I know I was just kidding.
jvclark2 2 months ago
@brokenthorn15 Well, no company lasts forever. HP is leaving the computer business even... who would have ever saw that coming. And within 10 years Dell may leave it also. Right now Apple is the most American made computer on the market, that might not seem like much, but to people who want to support America, they won't buy a Japanese designed laptop. Apple is America's best card to play in someday creating a tech industry in America where we not only design them but can build them here also.
S0Iari 1 month ago
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Ruttie2 1 month ago
@Ruttie2 I didn't say the Mac was 100% US made, I said it is the MOST American made computer. The OS, programs, etc is designed by Americans and the machines are also. the only part that is not is manufacturing.... that is a lot more than most companies do. As for Google, good for them, I am glad Google is doing well, I have an Android phone myself, I just want the tech industry to stay in the US and not be exported to India so we can keep those jobs here.
S0Iari 1 month ago
@S0Iari Errrr, actually it's intel processors... Not Apple. As for the phones and tablets, those are Samsung processors... So.
Ruttie2 1 month ago
@Ruttie2 I know every component isn't made by Apple. I already explained that it is not 100% Apple made. I know many components are manufactured by other companies & in Asia, etc... That doesn't negate my point though in the least though.
S0Iari 1 month ago
@S0Iari True that, true that.
Ruttie2 1 month ago
@S0Iari But China is 12 years more advanced in technology than Apple and America
combined. Because of connections with Russia and Japan, China is number one in
education, technology and economy. Beat that.
Ruttie2 1 month ago
@Ruttie2 Name me one thing China invented or designed in the last 20 years? I'll take anything you can document and show a patent that was granted.
China = 80% of the people are uneducated.
China = Economy is built on exports.
China = They have no technology. They just steal it, Dumpster dive for it or buy it from some political hack for supporting him.
Nice try at making shit up. Try again while I wait for you to show what they invented lately.
WizzRacing 1 month ago
@WizzRacing watch?v=vmYkRF5t1dk I'm not making anything up, american boy. They? Uneducated? Ahahahaha, you idiots have the lowest education in the world, your economy is horrible, you're dictatorship is obvious and the people are poor as well. 46% of the average american is poor. They have the wealthiest gold reserve, while you morons have been printing paper, that isn't worth anything. Sorry, times change, China is grown up now.
Ruttie2 1 month ago
@Ruttie2 I said show me a patent in the last 20 years, not some youtube video. Now get to work and start thinking for you're self before you fall prey to idiot speech!
WizzRacing 1 month ago
@WizzRacing Patents? I'm not showing you any goddamn thing, ameretard. If you're so ''educated'' then why not search for it yourself? Fetch boy, fetch! ROFL
Ruttie2 1 month ago
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@WizzRacing Patents? I'm not showing you any goddamn thing, ameretard. If you're so ''educated'' then why not search for it yourself? Fetch boy, fetch! ROFL
Ruttie2 1 month ago
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@S0Iari @S0Iari But China is 12 years more advanced in technology than Apple and America combined. Because of connections with Russia and Japan, China is number
one in education, technology and economy. Beat that.
Ruttie2 1 month ago
The missing part of the quote:
"We don't ship junk. We ship grossly overpriced trendy junk."
NodrogTrax 2 months ago 2
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1:27 So true. Proven nowadays with UltraBooks struggling to get up to Apple quality.
Years after the MacBook Air, competition is just starting to get better but still make flimsy, clunky products that breathe lack of attention to details... *and* not even cheaper at that!
Lenovo, ASUS, Acer, Toshiba... All design by committee.
Roman2K 2 months ago
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What is the difference between Cancer and Niggers? Cancer got Jobs.
Zerthog 2 months ago
For 2.5x the price you better not ship junk.
Gimmt61 2 months ago
@DickKnowsBest Exactly. There will never be a "winner" yet people are trying to make it seem that way. it depends on what you like. I like mac, but i've had my experience with windows, and its not bad, but i do prefer mac. These people need to stop fighting and just come to grips with its all about what THEY like..
supahhfreak 2 months ago
There he is, Steve Blowjobs !
InsideTheMonsterMan 2 months ago
@InsideTheMonsterMan I hope you get fucked up kid. Get off your moms laptop before i tell on you and you get it taken away for a month...
ALittleNooby 2 months ago
@ALittleNooby Are U Mad Gayfag ? Dont Cry, try suicide.
InsideTheMonsterMan 2 months ago
@DickKnowsBest Don't bother with these nut jobs. They never owned one and then tell you how it's all marketing. It's like people telling you what car to buy and they never even owned one!
WizzRacing 2 months ago
WHO THE FUCK CARES IF IT'S OVERPRICED! You can't tell me what the fuck to buy. I BUY THOUSAND DOLLAR COMPUTERS BECAUSE THEY LOOK GOOD AND MY SHIT RUNS FAST! My windows computer, with nothing on it, ran like a peice of shit. Don't tell me that its for dumbasses, when in every movie, TV show, ANYTHING, you always see and apple logo or a computer modeled after an apple product... Its bullshit that people try to tell US what to buy. NEWS FLASH: you're not changing my mind...
supahhfreak 2 months ago
what he really means about stripped down products is apple force you to have every sucky application on their over priced pieces of dog shit, fuck apple they fucking fail on every level, jobs is lying through his fucking teeth in this video and btw final cut pro sucks cock
Thenicereviewguy 2 months ago
they will never over take the pc, apple is an epic fail
Thenicereviewguy 2 months ago
ah i see it was opposite day that day! with him lying about everything
DisasterRasta 2 months ago
man steve jobs was such a dink. apple prices are highway robbery
GuitarBoyEvan 2 months ago
I notice most the people that say Macs are a status symbol are kids under the age of 20. That right there tells you they are gamers and have no clue what a computer is really for. On top of that they have no remorse or ethics about stealing software. Which means they are of low moral character and I would not hire anybody that is a thief.
The fact is if you had to pay for it, Apple and Macs are a better choice. Along with apples customer service and extended Apple care package is a winner.
WizzRacing 2 months ago
Apple and mac hardware is exactly the same now, pc's have much bigger power, all the guys at university have started switching back to pc's as they are tired of running slow expensive dated hardware. They admit the mac is all about image it puts to other people. Like saying "I have lots of money, I can afford a mac" same reason people buy expensive clothes. Cool people who know they are cool do not need to impress some fags, therefore get more powerful hardware and WOW isnt windows 7 amazing
chromatic1976 2 months ago
Dead.
ybafool2 2 months ago
Apple builds products that are top of the line they look and feel good. He is right about their products. You can buy a Mac and go straight to film\audio editing and never need to buy that $400.00 software. Mac's can rip DVD's and Blue Rays without using any decryption software. They include over $1100.00 in software that PC users need to buy to just use it. So in the end you are better off buying a Mac. Now if you want to steal software people will use Windows the most bootlegged on the planet!
WizzRacing 2 months ago
@WizzRacing all mac software can be downloaded as warez , and that 400$ software can be paid out off the money you saved , since you can save way more than that and even get better specs
SooLibyan 2 months ago
@SooLibyan People use Windows cause they can steal 90% of the software for it. One reason people use them. I might also add most people use Windows to play games on. So your really paying $900.00 for a game machine. People that buy Mac's use them for creating applications, Audio\Video editing etc.. Apple also makes sure 3rd party software can not use the Kernel. One reason it is stable 95% of the time.
There is hardly zero Mac Warez applications that work correct, User beware.
WizzRacing 2 months ago
@WizzRacing PCs are the #1 choice for businesses and and accounting and gaming , and it can do whatever a mac can do in editing , except apple does it better
you can't tell me why people by PCs or macs you can only tell me what they can do
and all mac software is available through warez sites , but i bet you can't find windows software either
and not being able to access the kernel is what makes it less customizable and suck at gaming
SooLibyan 2 months ago
@SooLibyan Like I just said people use use windows to play games. Apple lets you create better, faster, and more stable. Apple never has been or will be a gaming O.S. they make consoles for that.
I used to steal software before you were probably born. BBS, news groups, and FTP sites come to mind. Then I realized it's like walking into a store and walking out without paying for it. You buy a Mac and you don't need to buy $1100.00 worth of crap that never works right to start with.
WizzRacing 2 months ago
@SooLibyan You better look closer. Businesses use UNIX mainframe software. The Windows client administrators that know what they are doing, lock most the shit out, so noobs can't crash the system. The accounting software used could be Siebel, SAP, or Peachtree none of that is made by Microsoft.
You're not to bright are you. I really doubt you ever been in or worked inside large I.T. department or you would know that!
WizzRacing 2 months ago
I prefer apple, but who the fuck cares? Stop bitching about which one is better/ They are fucking products!!! Next I bet your gonna argue about whether McDonalds is better than Burger King. It's a matter of taste!
RocksRevenge 2 months ago
Steve, you kind of do...
SoPlEoReD 2 months ago
98 dislikes from Bill Gates accounts.
freitasnetuno 2 months ago
Apple computer's are made in China. Nice junk.
jackozzy 2 months ago
@jackozzy why don't u read your info before commenting you dumbfuck. Their products are made in California, ASSEMBLED in China, meaning that they only build it, not make it.
onlyFS9 2 months ago
@onlyFS9 Okay i'm sorry, i was wrong. But you don't have to use that language, unless you're teen. Anyway sorry for making you upset.
jackozzy 2 months ago
Grab an apple, eat it, poop it and now.. it looks just like Apple OS (iOS)