However, I don't see any problems about that. If the situation remains as it is, vegan haters will kill out each other and there will be none of them left XD But one thing is clear: people should prevent their children from getting bad habits: consuming alcohol, tobacco, meat, etc. And when children grow up, they will decide what's better for themselves.
Vegan for life! Humans need to eat everything. Yes - that means they need to EAT all the food they have, instead of breeding animals and feeding the food to them. I've heard about obese children of meat eaters. Also, I've heard about meat eater who killed his mother and ate her flesh. What's more, I've heart about some hunter who shot his wife, thinking that was just a random animal. So meat eaters get retarded, start killing each other and then blame vegans!
@SanguineBullet667 Here here, totally agree. People latch onto stupid things.....and sometimes they hang on and on.................no matter what........even when their "diet" starts making them sick. Veganism is as stupid as the SAGGY PANTS insanity.
Yes, because "milk" from a bean is natural... Of COURSE pasteurized, homogenized, hormone and antibiotic-laden milk is unhealthy. All of the studies that show that dairy is unhealthy go by processed dairy-NOT raw, unprocessed milk and dairy from cows grazing on grass.
these kids will never live like other kids because of their disease ridden parents who have forced them into their bizarre lifestyle. to NEVER eat one bite of a piece of steak in your life is not allowing them to experience the way we got here as humans, eating other LIVING things. my pet dog is my friend. but a wild boar is not my friend. animals are our friends? that's the stupidest thing i have heard of. it's one thing to respect them, like i do, but not every animal is my friend.
This video was hard for me - even as a Vegan who maintains this lifestyle for ethical reasons. I certainly will raise my children on the Vegan diet, but what I will never understand is the intentional "brainwashing" that parents with a DIE HARD belief force upon their children. I will make it clear to my children why I choose this lifestyle, but will never expect them to follow the same. They will have the choice, when given the option, if animals products are served.
@Jibbajabbyjoop Hahaha, best to raise your kids on a omnivorous diet, too risky to do weirdo stuff like Veganism. But hey, I would not put it past most member of the Vegancult to throw away their little kids health.
@tickyul They completely neglect their children for the sake of their dogma. if you google vegan child there will be article after article on children who've starved to death due to a vegan diet.
@DaliDahmerly And the Governmentard makes iteven worse by suggesting that a Vegancult diet can be appropriate for infants and children............LOL...........are they out of their minds???? And yeah, I have read a lot of fricken horror stories about Veganculters abusing their kids, very sad. Go to Google Scholar and you can read how stupid these Veganculters can be.
@CanIHazPancakeMix Uh, "meat hard disease"......you must mean "meat""heart disease???? I am not sure if you have been following current health news, the old fat-heart disease hypothesis is not penciling out like the idiots thought it would. In fact, a high carb/low fat diet is exactly what you would not want to eat if you have a Carbohydrate Metabolism Disorder as many Ameritards do. The Vegancult has lots of sickly folks as members.
NOOO!!! Don't give them soy milk instead of cow's!! It's just as bad if not worse! Come on now. Do it right if you're going to put children on vegan diets.
If you do vegan RIGHT, then you will have no problems. It takes commitment and, yes, *gasp* a little research to go vegan, but there are a ton of things with the vitamins, iron, calcium etc. that don't require egg or milk products. And we aren't all PETA extremists who despise the whole meat eating world. It's a lifestyle like any other. And if it's not your thing, then please, shut up, stop criticizing, and quit complaining about a youtube video. It just makes you look like a jerk.
@panayitolis1 They CAN have chocolate milk. It's just that the cow milk that would give them diabetes is replaced with rice, almond, potato or hemp milk. Tastes the same, costs the same. Veganism isn't a sacrifice, there is a vegan version of everything.
tickyul-- always bashing on vegan videos. Ignore him like he ignores all scientific and medical evidence that proves veganism is an excellent and perfectly adequate diet for all ages and all physical conditions. I think this guy has cabbage in his head instead of a brain.
@seymourLlama Haha, I am the one ignoring science, good one. Vegancult : poor source of iron, nonsource of B12, poor source of other b vitamins, low quality protein, poor source of efa's, vitamin d...huh..nope! You see, my bashing of the Vegancult is backed up by science, go to Google Scholar and type in a term such as "Veganism""failure to thrive" and read some of the articles. I do not really care what adults do, forcing your kid to be a Veganculter is another matter.
@tickyul poor source of iron? vegetables are a GREAT source of iron, vitamin bs, protein and all of that. You visibly know nothing about nutrition so stop giving wrong info to people. NOTHING IS EXCLUSIVE TO ANIMAL PRODUCTS. THIS is fact. We can get b12 from synthetic sources and this is actually how you get it too because the animals you eat are fed b12 supplements! You're self-righteous when all you say has already been refuted by everybody. Vitamin d, seriously? Ever heard of the sun?
Haha!!! All I did was state that I don't have a problem raising children on a vegan diet which is purely OPINION. An opinion that I'm entitled to. And now there are aggressive and ignorant people on YOUTUBE of all places trying to insult and intimidate me. Go read a book or something. Seriously. Now GOODBYE!!! :D
@flyyingteapot Yes, you are entitled to your own opinions, facts are a different matter. I think if you do a little reading outside of your comfort zone, perhaps Google Scholar, you will find a lot of evidence that shows the Vegancult diet is not very good for most people and is terrible for developing kids. There are lots of antinutrients in many plant based foods, that is really bad because plant based nutrients are inferior to animal based, non heme iron is one example.
i raise my kids on a vegan diet and they are healthy and beautiful,the real child abuse is convincing your kids that there is an invisible man up in the sky that is going to condemn them to eternal pain and suffering if they dont bow to him
@geiuy The development of the Central Nervous System occurs for the most part in the first five years. Things like iron, Dha/Epa, B vitamins are essential for this process, Vegan diets have either poor quality or quantity of these and many other nutrients. Plants also contain many antinutrients which block absorption of these very important components of Cns development.
Man, this feminist shit is really out of control. I WILL NEVER deprive my children of the best nutrients available, so that they can develop into healthy adults. And all you celery heads who think otherwise are committing child abuse.
Is it a coincidence most vegetarians are women? Your children will grow up weak and frail.
@bishop102 Yes, these people are crazy...mostly weak minded women. I mean, if you want to eat a crap diet no skin off my back. But, putting your kid on a jackrabbit diet is pathetic and the epitome of selfishness. If you want to make your kid a Veganculter at least wait until they are 5 when most of their CNS has developed.
@tickyul I can believe that. I couldn't believe it when that lady said drinking cows' milf isn't natural. Fucking self-righteous idiots who think they know what they're talking about. Btw that punk has some fucked up looking earrings..
@miafan89 Uh, nothing that these crazies do or say suprises me any more. Yeah, sure....your kid is sickly and weak on this insane diet.....but....feed them real food, no way!
I'm 18 and vegan. If I ever have kids in the future, they'd obviously eat vegan at home. But it when they got older they wanted to eat non-vegan foods outside the home, that's entirely their decission. There's a difference between encouraging something and forcing it.
@flyyingteapot Uh, you got it bakcwards dearie. If you want to put your kids on the Vegancult diet, it would pose the least danger to put them on it after age 5.......when most of their CNS has developed. At least you give these kids a chance to be normal if you delay putting them on this strange Vegancult diet.
Uh, no I didn't, dearie. Veganism isn't a cult. I'm vegan to help prevent poverty in third world countries, save water, for the animals and the environment. If living compassionately is considered to be the behaviour of some sort of cult in your eyes, that's rather concerning. Giving the kids a chance to be 'normal'? Vegan = 'strange'?
We're all born vegan. We aquire a taste for animal products because we're fed it. I suggest you go read a book on vegan nutrition. Goodbye :)
@flyyingteapot Uh, a group or sect that acts weird, that is one definition of a cult, the Vegancult is right at home there. And guess what, being a member of the Vegancult is going to do NOTHING about 3rd world poverty, a very complexd problem that needs many cures. If you do not want to make animals suffer, just eat chicken, they have brains the size of a piece of gravel...they don't mind getting gobbled down. Vegans are over six times more likely than nonvegans to have brain atrophy.
@flyyingteapot Ok, 5 years from now, when you have gotten sick from this diet and will finally admit it........you will think of me...Tickyul. Just open your mind and do some poking around, you will read LOTS of horror stories about people getting sick on the Vegancult diet. Just do one thing, go Google the following term: "veganism""brain atrophy", it will shock you.
Think of you? Don't flatter yourself. You think I actually remebered you from your previous comment? Get over yourself.
You don't have to think veganism is a-okay but you should atleast respect the rights of people to live as they wish as vegans. If you don't like, ignore it instead of abuse randoms. So while you're eating hen periods and drinking pus & mucus filled breast milk from another species, I'll be living with a clear conscience on a healthy and yummy diet :D Now shoo, fly. Goodbye :D
@tickyul Do you not understand the fricken english language???? Did you do poorly with reading comprehension??? I made the point clearly, do your insane Vegancult diet all you want, when it comes to putting small kids on this pathetic diet I will say what I think.....insanity. Did you google the term I told you about, are you afraid to learn something new.......or afraid that I am right. I have been eating chicken for many years, never found pus in ANY part....another Vegancult myth.
I would love to raise any future kids of mine vegan. I'm not 100% vegan right now but I'm working on it. I seriously doubt my hubby would be open to raising vegan kids but I'm sure he'd be fine with vegetarian kids :) I know the health benefits are great and I'd feel bad feeding my kids meat.
@Littleone89 Yeah, listen to your husband, sounds like he has some sense, not good to raise kids on a Vegancult diet, they may end up retarded or very slow. B12 and dietary cholesterol are really important for a kids first five years, aid in development of the the Cns and Pns.
@TeamDarkWater6 I like arguing, it comes from all of the meat I eat. May Veganculters suffer for forcing this crap way of life on their innocent kiddies (and maybe KITTIES TOO (vegan cats?).
Nothing annoys me more, than parents forcing a lifestyle to their children. Feed them both until they are 18 years, then have them make a decision, but seriously, forcing your decisions on children is the most selfish thing I know of.
@DoomExtreme1 What's the difference than a parent feeding a child a regular american diet? They're "forcing" their lifestyle of eating meat on their children. I was raised on an american diet and wasn't allowed to eat vegan until I was in my teens even with my constant begging from the age of 4 to have them not make me eat meat. I personally though will give my children the choice, to a certain degree of course. You'll never find me feeding my child processed foods.
Those children look pretty healthy to me. They are not overweight and seem to be pretty happy in their families. What is everyone so upset about? I've seen kids eating crap diets that are more malnourished than these kids.
I definitely would raise my kids vegan. Maybe then they won't be as sick as I was when I was a kid! I was raised on a standard diet and I was sick constantly with ear infections, sore throat, colds, and other classic childhood ailments. Since becoming vegan as a young adult, I rarely get sick and when I do feel a cold or sore throat coming on it goes away within a day and congestion is next to nil.
@tickyul Why are you so passionate about the way other people live their lives? are you one of those notorious ex vegans I hear about or just plain hateful?
@AKeys2012 Push this crap on a little kid, a true sign of the lack of nutrients. Why don't members of the Vegancult let their kids eat a normal diet for at least the first 8 years, then ask them if they would like to try a Weird, unhealthy way of eating.
@flyyingteapot Hey Celery Head! If our ancestors thousands of years ago followed your stupid fucking diet we would've never evolved such a sophisticated brain. The bottom line is MEAT more specifically cooked MEAT is what allowed us to become the most intelligent beings on the planet, and there is not 1 scientist on the PLANET who will refute this fact. If our ancestors ate what you eat now we would all be Monkeys. So I'll continue to eat my MEAT thank you very much!
Firstly, celery is gross. Bleugh. Secondly...DUH! I'm, well aware that eating meat assisted our evolution as human beings. Did I say that wasn't true? No. My PERSONAL BELIEF is that we as people no longer need meat. It's no the fact that people eat it, it's how it's obtained. "So I'll continue to eat my MEAT thank you very much!". Haha seriously? I don'y give a shit what some angry random on YT thinks. Do whatever you like. I just won't it eat. That's what I care about-not you. GOODBYE :D
One shouldn't have a problem with tooth decay due to a vegan diet. Tooth decay could be caused by a lack of calcium (causing weak teeth and other bones) and lots of starch and sugar in the diet (sitting on the teeth and breeding plaque). There is no reason that milk and eggs should make one's teeth stronger and less prone to decay.
@lovespiggy But the acids of excess fruit will surely damage teeth. I am able to eat candy and sweets fine, but, start eating lots of fruit and my teeth start hurting.
@lovespiggy Actually milk goes a long, long way to building stronger teeth and preventing cavities, especially during younger years. You should do more research nefore posting about things you know nothing about.
@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
i hope these parents don´t make it too hard for the children...and let them choose by themselves....otherwise they could be against veganism, when they´re grown up...
@Sebastian7908 No, they are member of the Vegancult, must make sure their poor kiddies are brainwashed too. I mean, hey, if you are going to live on a sad, distasteful diet you might as well make your kid suffer too.
One more thing I would add to this. Whatever this video may try to suggest and as upsetting as it is for myself and many others to watch *real* child abuse done to childrens health before they even have a chance, we shouldn't be concerned that this behavior will spread widely. The so called "vegans" will not last. If they don't constantly seek new recruits, there numbers will quickly diminish through infertility and/or children dying before they reach adulthood. They're not sustainable.
@yunta51 Yes, you hit it right on the head, these people are wrapped up in a cult, they will push this crap on their kids even if they get sick. Yeah, that's right, the people who are so insane they would let their kids die because they are trapped in the Vegancult are out of their minds.
@tickyul I was responding to someone who said b12 only existed in animal products - which is false. What do you have against vegans exactly? I read a few posts of yours where you claim that vegans are cult-like and insane. You seem to have a lot of anger built up towards vegans, just wondering where it's all coming from.
@Trainwrek3 Uh, non animal sources of b12, name them for me please. There are b12 analogues in a lot of vegan products, these are largely ineffective as an active source of b12 for the human body.
those kids look healthy... some people just want to stir up trouble. i'm a vegan and i'm planning on raising my kids vegan, as i have vegan friends with vegan kids who are perfectly healthy and happy. deficiencies don't happen in people who eat balanced diets and who take multi-vitamins.
I'm not vegan myself, but those kids look really healthy to me. I had a friend who was Vegan and raised her son vegan a few years ago and when I look back I feel terrible. without understanding anything really, I always told her how wrong she was. But now I've ended up doing more research on it, and the more I do the more unintelligent I feel thinking I can only be healthy eating a diet which kills so many. I understand why people worry, but I think you should do the research before judging.
@wondermega4ever how can you parent without imposing your lifestyle to your children? The point of parenting is making choices for your child... she most likely meant that they would be able to make their choice whether to eat animals or not later in life.
ridiculous.young children require healthy amounts of protein and fats in order to develop. Their little brains are made of fats. Breast milk contains saturated fats and cholesterol. And why do you never see a black vegan?
I wish my parents had raised me this way. I would feel so much pure. I had to make the change myself. It is scary to see overweight and unhealthy three-year-olds.
here, in France, only 1.7 per cent of the population are vegetarian... ant less are vegan.
When I said "I am Vegan", everybody thinks I am crazy. Same my doctor in agains this. Be vegan In France in hard, in other country in Europe it's different. For example, in Germany, 7 percent are vegetarian,
I think vegan parents make the good choice. Congratulations ! In France, every one said vegan parents are mad parents, and eat meet and milk is an obligation...
@madtux01 Vegancult is not a good choice, truly a poor way of eating. You do know that b12 is vital for life and health? You cannot get b12 from any other source except ANIMAL sources, anolouges may actually be detrimental to health. There is a whole list of other nutrients that the Vegan diet does a poor job delivering.
@tickyul I am not agree, I know people who are vegan since born, and they are in perfect health (more of 40yo). the only nutriment you cant found in great quantity in the B12, and only this one. The B12 i take is the product of bacterias (in laboratory).
I actually read for you the ingredients of the box of B12 I use (Vitamine B12 Delagrange 1000µg/2 mm): acide chlorhydrique concentré, chlorure de sodium, eau... there in nothing who come from animals, so it's vegan.
@madtux01 Yes, you better make sure you take that supplement, that is you lifeline. I prefer to get my nutrients naturally.....eggs, chicken, beef, lamb. Do you know how phony and processed tofu (and lots of other vegan junk) is, truly an unhealthy heap of junk. Tommorrow I will throw some yummy lamb pieces into the crock pot with a little water and let er rip, wow that will be so good, full of efa's, b12, protein, iron and other great stuff that lots of Vegancult people miss.
@tickyul Junk food is junk food. Chips are vegan, it doesn't mean anyone can live on them. I'm vegan and I eat very little to no soy at all and very few grains ...
Vegan isn't a cult any more than people who oppose child abuse or slavery are a cult. It's about acknowledging the right of another living being to be left alone and to have the right to the body and life they were born with. That's all. And the food is really good, too.
@tickyul Excuse me, but if it's to make provocation remarks against our choise of life, not doing much. You are free not understand our choice, but what you said about veganism is absurd. I was a meat eater, I am vegan since 2 years and my health is perfect. Meat, eggs, milk dont miss me.
I make myself my soy milk and my tofu with 100% organic soy, I control what I eat and I'm proud to not eat dead bodies...
but please, be more objective and respectfull with us
@madtux01 I look at it from the basis of biology. Man needs certain nutrients, a Vegan diet does NOT supply some of these nutrients. Non heme iron is poorly absorbed, B12 comes only from animal products, Dha/Epa is most abundant from fish-plant sources (ALA) are poorly converted. I could go on but most vegans would not believe me so I will stop.
@tickyul the human body is made like vegetarian animals, not like meat eaters. In the primitive nature, human cant catch animals with his natural body, they are had to create tools. The natural meat eaters have a body made to kill (night vision, speed, agility, teeths ant nails long and pointy...) human not.
I am vegan since 2 years now, my health is perfect. I usualy make muscle sport, bicycle, karate and aïkido... and the B12 is available in otherway, and NOT only from animals.
@madtux01 What vegetarian animals, please specify? We have the ability to use our great intelligence to capture prey, this is our weapon, very useful. We have a digestive system made for the perfect processing of meat and veggies, we are meant to eat both. We have canine teeth for eating meat. B12 is only available from animals, all others are analogs, very poor sources, please be careful.
@tickyul and to finish, in some of country, people are naturally vegan (with Buddhist religion)...
Be vegan is sane, my blood analyst are good, my health is perfect I'm strong, I make sport, I'm 1m80 for 82kg, my girl friend is vegan too and his health is perfect too.
I work for my country, I pay my taxes, I vote, I respect the others, I respect the choice of other people, so I wish people respect the mine...
@tickyul False, you can get b12 from seaweed and barley. b12 is also added to soy milk and other vegan alternatives just as it is added to regular milk. You're right though a vegan diet does do a poor job of delivering... a heart attack. I'm not trying to convert you, just get your facts right if you're going to argue with vegans on a vegan video. Take your meat eater myths to a video of some hick doing a jump on his four wheeler.
@Trainwrek3 Uh, the Lipid/heart hypothesis is really coming under fire, looking more and more like the scam it is. Close to 55% of the people who have heart attacks have normal or below normal cholesterol levels.
@Trainwrek3 Joking right? The b12 from seaweed is analog and large servings of this stuff (30grams) have low microgram levels of b12, you cannot rely on this for b12. I hope you take a supplement in one form or another, seaweed is not going to cut it.
I really surprised to see people stooping as low as to say that these children might actually be "retarded" as a result of their healthier than normal diets. It seems strange that people who are already so opposed to the idea that children could be properly raised vegan would even take the time to sit through a nearly 10 min video just to say these things.
@youngpretender13 Uh, healthier than normal diet...no. The fact is development of the Cns occurs mainly in the first 5 years. If you raise a kid on a Vegan diet and it is lacking nutrients to support this development, there may be PERMANENT problems.
Natural or not, I feel best when my diet is mainly composed of cooked animal. I believe that it has become very trendy for people to consider meat as bad and unhealthy, I feel nothing is further from the truth. Meat has a list of health benefits that make just about every other food (except eggs) look pretty weak in comparison. From the high quality absorbable amino acid profile to the very absorbable iron it contains, meat is a great food.
@00rpc Uh, you do not really know the meaning of Spam do you? I posted a well thought out, non commercial message on Youtube and you think that is Spam. I found a subject that was of interest to me at the time and posted this message TO VARIOUS VIDEOS ON THE SAME SUBJECT, NOT SPAM. It is easy for you to just look away when you see my horrible post.
Meat also has and equally long list of health reasons as to why you shouldn't eat it.Then when you add the cruelty that happens in order to obtain meat everything seems to tip in balance to NOT consume it.
@Emily1ime No, you are wrong, meat is a health food. I would challenge you to show me a study that ISOLATES meat as a cause of all of these health problems. The biological availability of nutrients in meat/eggs is hands down so much better than ANY vegan foods. As for cruelty in meat production, hey, have you ever seen a lion capture din din....it aint pretty.
If you went out chased down your pray rip its neck open with your teeth then ate it raw, Then Maybe you could compare the meat industry to a Lion Capturing "Din din"...... but probably not aye.
@Emily1ime The point I was trying to make is that it is a fantasy to think there is not a huge amount of suffering and death involved in the animal kingdom, man is only responsible for a small part of it. The death of an animal in nature is usually a lot crueler than what man does.
So what your saying is That its justifiable for us to kill them because we kill them less painfully. So here's your logic First of all ill just say that not all animals are hunted and killed in the wild a lot die of old age etc !SO! here's how i'm transferring your logic so you understand what you said. *Because i believe a human could die in a horrific accident That makes its justifiable For me to "Humanly" kill them myself.*
@Emily1ime Well, do you want us meat eaters to devour them while they are still alive, that is what a lot of wild animals do. I truly believe god put animals on this earth, in part to keep man healthy. There are just too many yummy meat type creatures, have to try them all.
@tickyul There is nothing in nature that even begins to replicate what humans do to nonhuman animals. Nature is far less cruel than humans.
As far as B12, humans produce it in exactly the same way as nonhuman animals. NONE of us are making our own B12 because we wash our food now. "Food" animals aren't in the conditions to produce their own B12 any more than we are. That's why so many non-vegans are B12 deficient. It's very dangerous to believe you're getting these nutrients when you're not.
@lisacole690 Uh, you are really wrong about the horrors of nature vs man. A lion will at times start eating what it has caught....... even before it has killed it. Hyenas literally tear their dinner apart in the most vicious manner, no pretense of civility. As for b12, anologues have a very poor conversion rate and if you rely on the tiny bit you can get from internal production, you will come up very short.
@tickyul Animals in slaughter houses must be alive when their throats are slit. In the US, that's law. It's so their still beating hearts can pump the blood out (true carnivores like blood soaked meat, humans do not ... and blood soaked is far different from "rare") ... so, when they're stunned they are often not unconscious and many times are still alive and aware when their hides are ripped off and they are dismembered. I know of no wild animal or any incident in nature that can compare. cont.
How come all these kids look like they have mental retardation? I guess that proves what I and others have said you need to eat meat for normal brain function. It is true though that eating too much meat causes issues. Because that is also going against what we are desighned to do and that is to eat both meat and plant matter.
Too much of one or the other and you get problems.
You are probably right about these kids have mental retardation. I can see that too.
According to many studies you can find on pubmed, B12 deficiency of vegan mothers causes sever and irreversible brain damages in their babies. I'm not surprise if those kids have an atrophy and demyelination in their brains which you can not see from outside. Although it would be natural and easiest thing to get B12 from eating meat, those vegans have a choice to take B12 supplement or fortified food.
@kimber0987 Reconsider, members of the Vegancult who force this sickness on thier kids often times cause permanent damage to their kids. Myelation of the Central Nervous System requires dietary cholesterol......due to the fact that the liver of kids 2 and under have unreliable production of this essential substance.
Although carefully planed vegan diet should be fine to the adult, our children may need extra nutritions for proper brain and other physical development. If you are vegan, you know what kind of nutrients tend to be luck in your food. For kids and the women during pregnancy on vegan diet, you might find some supplements very useful but also will be easily over used. So please just don't force you and your kids on extreme diet without the advise of nutritionist.
@Cathylvscandy Both the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada claim that vegan diets are appropriate for ALL stages of life: infancy, childhood, and onward.
I don't see any sense to encourage people go on vegan diet without proper education. ADA positioned to encourage people to have more vegetables in US although they also stated that supplements or fortified foods can provide useful amounts of important nutrients for vegans which is too obvious.
But I should say that more careful research should be done before ADA claim vegan diets are appropriate for all stage of life.
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@jeepboyfly Well, more and more studies are being done all the time, and have been done for a long time now, and we've seen a shift from "is veganism healthy?" to "is meat consumption healthy?". It's longer disputable that a vegan diet is as good as a meat-eater's diet; now the questions being asked are "is it better?" and by some "how much better?". At what point will there be enough evidence for you, I wonder?
Well, more and more strict vegetarian raised their children with vegan diets, we've seen more medical reports about children of vegetarian mother have sever and irreversible damaged, in general, physical examination revealed psychomotoric retardation, apathy, muscular hypotonia, abnormal movements and failure to thrive. Laboratory analysis showed a megaloblastic anaemia. MRI of the brain revealed diffuse frontotemporoparietal atrophy and retardation of myelination.
@jeepboyfly All the cases I've read about have been cases where parents were not feeding their children enough food, or were feeding them more restrictive fruitarian diets (technically a vegan diet, but not recommended by the ADA, or any other health organization I know of. If I eat nothing but a slice of bread and a banana everyday, of course I'd get sick). Similarly, meat-eating parents who starve their kids are, surprise surprise, making their kids sick. Is that evidence against meat eating?
Where did you get the cases? Just go pubmed and search the articles on medical journal. There you find surprise surprise.
Starve their kids? have a slice of bread and a banana, huh? Are you in North Korea or Africa? Oh, I forgot, there are about 50 million people living in food insecure households and many starving kids in US. But somehow B12 deficiency from dietary inadequacy are common in infants breastfed by vegans and vegetarian who have been on the diets for many years.
@jeepboyfly Sadly, many of these food insecure households are ones where the parents spend their money on alcohol, drugs, gambling, or medications to treat diseases (which are, more often than not, related to overconsumption of animal products, like heart disease). In these cases, these families could afford HEALTHY vegan diets. As for other cases, where the parents are not at fault, I think the government should be doing more to help.
@jeepboyfly B12 deficiency is a very serious issue, indeed, and you'd be right to point out that vegans who don't ensure a healthy intake are setting themselves up for problems down the road. Sometimes children are involved, and the consequences can be devastating. I agree with you there. But this is not proof that veganism is dangerous. This is proof that messing with malnutrition is dangerous. No less dangerous for meat eaters, in fact (beware high cholesterol, heart disease, etc.).
@kimberlily1983 Bull, no way the Vegancult diet can compare to an omnivorious diet...... which man is best suited for. No B-12 in Vegan foods, poor source of usable iron, where are the efa's such as Epa and Dha??? Highest quality protein award goes to........eggly wegglies.......are these an option for a Veganculter???
@tickyul The ADA and Dietitians of Canada compare the vegan diet favorably to an omnivorous diet. (See their joint position paper on vegetarian diets, which covers vegan diets). Why not educate yourself on nutritional issues before you open your mouth next time?
B-12 in fortified foods and supplements; iron is absorbed just fine, particularly with higher vitamin C levels typical of vegan diets, EPA and DHA are not EFAs; ALA is an EFA, and it can be found in flax, walnuts, canola oil, etc.
@kimberlily1983 I am sure that these organizations give their OPINIONS on various subjects relating to nutrition. Mans physiology requires certain nutrients to thrive, some of these are lacking in a Vegancult diet....no matter what these political health groups say. If you are a Veganculter at the very least you should take a strong vit/min supplement. Iron guidelines for Vegans are 1.5 times higher than non-Vegans because non-heme iron is low in elemental iron and poorly absorbed.
@tickyul You have to intake vitamin C with your veggie iron intakes *cough*, but I mean 44 years old and responding to like every comment, making real "objective" points, ARGUING OVER THE INTERNET and I'm sure all your facts are empirical and through your personal study, probably doesn't tell nothing about you.
Aaaand since you are a superneurobioengineerscientist with a black belt in everything, because you read a lot of interwebz and magazines, I think, you're opinion is valid. Sure, why not..
@tickyul look dude, i've been a vegan for years, get annual blood tests and i'm consistently fine with iron, b12, d, etc. not saying everyone should go vegan, but for the love of god drop the nutritional argument, you sound like a broken record. the childish nicknames for the shit you're talking about doesn't help either.
@tickyul The organizations I mentioned are highly regarded as top authorities in their field. They are not free of political influence, this is true, but the influence is coming from the meat and dairy industries. When these same organizations then go on to say that vegan diets are the healthiest, you know it means something!
Iron requirements are higher for vegans, that's right, but it is very easy to get enough nonetheless. While non-heme iron is less well absorbed....
@tickyul ... the difference is not as great as you think: where only 10% of non-heme iron is typically absorbed, only 20% of heme iron is absorbed: so in general, all iron is poorly absorbed. Vegans typically consume more vitamin C rich foods, which puts absorption of non-heme iron closer to that of heme, greatly increasing it. So your worries, while no doubt noble and coming from pure motives, are unfounded: it is easy to get everything we need on vegan diets. :)
@kimberlily1983 I think the full picture is a little more bleak. I have read that Non-heme has a couple of different things going against it. First, the absorption varies by person from 2-15%. Second, there are substances in lots of Non-heme sources that actually block the absorbtion of iron. Many of the best sources of plant iron have lots of other anti-nutrients. I have read the guidlines for Vegetarian iron are 1.5 times as high as Non-Vegetarian iron.
I've already addressed some of your concerns. Read my posts again. :) As for absorption levels varying per person, iron absorption typically decreases when the diet is too iron-rich and increases when iron is normal or low. This is a good thing, it has protective effects. :) As for anti-nutrients, that is not something for healthy people eating balanced diets to be worried about. Absorption of various vitamins and nutrients is rarely 100%, and dietary recommendations account for this.
@kimberlily1983 Well, the facts are what is important. Just go to Google Scholar and type in some terms with reference to Veganism......like......oh, say "infants" or "failure to thrive" and see what you will get......it will be a lot. The FACT is Vegans are more likely to get Megaloblastic and iron deficient anemia. Low Absorption is a good protective mechanism IF you are not already low. Soy is a know Goiterogen, blocks uptake of sodium by the thyroid....that is just one example.
I agreed. ADA report is only based on the interview of vegan mothers who may not even noticed the delayed development of their children. On the other hand, there are many cases of severe vitamin deficiency in infants breastfed by vegans which could cause lasting neurodisability. At least, vegetarian women should take vitamin supplementation during the pregnancy and nursing period.
But even after that, vegan children were reported to be lower IQ in UK.
@Cathylvscandy They risk their kids health because they are brainwashed members of a cult, THE VEGANCULT. I mean, the facts are out there, I ask a lot of these Veganculters to check out Google Scholar or Pubmed, I guess a lot of them are in denial.....even when their kids are small and sickly. They put this ideology over the health of their kids.......pathetic.
I thank my parent for raising me with a lot of variety of seasonal vegetables, almost everything from ocean, many kinds of mushrooms and meats. Compare to that, the selection of whole foods is still poor and I don't see many seasonal changes there.
What you eat is just your choice but children don't have many choices. If you need to have supplements or fortified foods, your diet needs to be changed. It's just not natural way of eating habits.
I wish my parents had raised me vegan. I never was given a choice. I was given cows milk, bacon, hotdogs, without ever really knowing the harm I was doing . Not only to my own health, the environment, but most importantly to the non human animals. My parents didn't know any better. I would definitely raise my children vegan. It's a no brainer. The only challenge would be having to deal with the ignorant peeps who seem to be incapable of critical, independent thinking.
What the fuck is wrong with people ? Educating children this way is fucking dishonest. Being vegan or not must be a fucking choice. This is purely endoctrination, the same way religions do.
If you damn yanks can't eat healthily without being extreme, just hang yourselves you freaks.
@HaramKafir Great fella, nice way to make a good post...then screw it up in the end. Last I checked, England had just about the same percentage of fatties as the USA.
I am proud to type I have been a vegatarin sense I was nine and I am now forteen, I am a long distance runner and I am one of the best runners at my whole high school
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H0tguy760 1 month ago
However, I don't see any problems about that. If the situation remains as it is, vegan haters will kill out each other and there will be none of them left XD But one thing is clear: people should prevent their children from getting bad habits: consuming alcohol, tobacco, meat, etc. And when children grow up, they will decide what's better for themselves.
DoomedSpaceMarine123 4 months ago
Vegan for life! Humans need to eat everything. Yes - that means they need to EAT all the food they have, instead of breeding animals and feeding the food to them. I've heard about obese children of meat eaters. Also, I've heard about meat eater who killed his mother and ate her flesh. What's more, I've heart about some hunter who shot his wife, thinking that was just a random animal. So meat eaters get retarded, start killing each other and then blame vegans!
DoomedSpaceMarine123 4 months ago
Kill it then grill it! why is it that all these vegans are also liberal?! WTF man! I love brother bear and cousin deer.... On my plate!
BudtheMainah 4 months ago
I am a glassy eyed Veganculter.
tickyul 5 months ago
I am a member of a cult, the Vegancult.
tickyul 5 months ago
...vegans disgust me to no end
SanguineBullet667 7 months ago
@SanguineBullet667 Here here, totally agree. People latch onto stupid things.....and sometimes they hang on and on.................no matter what........even when their "diet" starts making them sick. Veganism is as stupid as the SAGGY PANTS insanity.
tickyul 5 months ago
Vegan donut???? Is this for real?
kimchidressagemama 8 months ago
Yes, because "milk" from a bean is natural... Of COURSE pasteurized, homogenized, hormone and antibiotic-laden milk is unhealthy. All of the studies that show that dairy is unhealthy go by processed dairy-NOT raw, unprocessed milk and dairy from cows grazing on grass.
kimchidressagemama 8 months ago
these kids will never live like other kids because of their disease ridden parents who have forced them into their bizarre lifestyle. to NEVER eat one bite of a piece of steak in your life is not allowing them to experience the way we got here as humans, eating other LIVING things. my pet dog is my friend. but a wild boar is not my friend. animals are our friends? that's the stupidest thing i have heard of. it's one thing to respect them, like i do, but not every animal is my friend.
daberr2 8 months ago
Animal products do not give you ear infections and runny noses XD what are they talking about?
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shawty777100 10 months ago
This video was hard for me - even as a Vegan who maintains this lifestyle for ethical reasons. I certainly will raise my children on the Vegan diet, but what I will never understand is the intentional "brainwashing" that parents with a DIE HARD belief force upon their children. I will make it clear to my children why I choose this lifestyle, but will never expect them to follow the same. They will have the choice, when given the option, if animals products are served.
Jibbajabbyjoop 10 months ago 10
@Jibbajabbyjoop Hahaha, best to raise your kids on a omnivorous diet, too risky to do weirdo stuff like Veganism. But hey, I would not put it past most member of the Vegancult to throw away their little kids health.
tickyul 9 months ago
@tickyul They completely neglect their children for the sake of their dogma. if you google vegan child there will be article after article on children who've starved to death due to a vegan diet.
DaliDahmerly 8 months ago
@DaliDahmerly And the Governmentard makes iteven worse by suggesting that a Vegancult diet can be appropriate for infants and children............LOL...........are they out of their minds???? And yeah, I have read a lot of fricken horror stories about Veganculters abusing their kids, very sad. Go to Google Scholar and you can read how stupid these Veganculters can be.
tickyul 5 months ago
I like vegetables AND meat.
Especially cabbage. Oh sweet lord cabbage..~
cloudfan1010102 11 months ago
@CanIHazPancakeMix Uh, "meat hard disease"......you must mean "meat""heart disease???? I am not sure if you have been following current health news, the old fat-heart disease hypothesis is not penciling out like the idiots thought it would. In fact, a high carb/low fat diet is exactly what you would not want to eat if you have a Carbohydrate Metabolism Disorder as many Ameritards do. The Vegancult has lots of sickly folks as members.
tickyul 11 months ago
if i had a kid id definitely raise them as vegan :) you should teach your kids love and respect.
running90away 11 months ago
NOOO!!! Don't give them soy milk instead of cow's!! It's just as bad if not worse! Come on now. Do it right if you're going to put children on vegan diets.
futoncat 1 year ago
If you do vegan RIGHT, then you will have no problems. It takes commitment and, yes, *gasp* a little research to go vegan, but there are a ton of things with the vitamins, iron, calcium etc. that don't require egg or milk products. And we aren't all PETA extremists who despise the whole meat eating world. It's a lifestyle like any other. And if it's not your thing, then please, shut up, stop criticizing, and quit complaining about a youtube video. It just makes you look like a jerk.
sailordudet 1 year ago 5
@TangerineTangerine Until the deficiencies start popping up and making you sick, better take a good multivitamin with your fake, unnatural diet.
tickyul 1 year ago
I keep coming back, it is like watching a trainwreck, them poor Vegancult kids, something is just sooo odd about them,
tickyul 1 year ago
Children that cant have chocolate milk ! CHILD ABUSE!!!!!!!
panayitolis1 1 year ago
@panayitolis1 They CAN have chocolate milk. It's just that the cow milk that would give them diabetes is replaced with rice, almond, potato or hemp milk. Tastes the same, costs the same. Veganism isn't a sacrifice, there is a vegan version of everything.
seymourLlama 1 year ago 2
tickyul-- always bashing on vegan videos. Ignore him like he ignores all scientific and medical evidence that proves veganism is an excellent and perfectly adequate diet for all ages and all physical conditions. I think this guy has cabbage in his head instead of a brain.
seymourLlama 1 year ago
@seymourLlama Haha, I am the one ignoring science, good one. Vegancult : poor source of iron, nonsource of B12, poor source of other b vitamins, low quality protein, poor source of efa's, vitamin d...huh..nope! You see, my bashing of the Vegancult is backed up by science, go to Google Scholar and type in a term such as "Veganism""failure to thrive" and read some of the articles. I do not really care what adults do, forcing your kid to be a Veganculter is another matter.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul poor source of iron? vegetables are a GREAT source of iron, vitamin bs, protein and all of that. You visibly know nothing about nutrition so stop giving wrong info to people. NOTHING IS EXCLUSIVE TO ANIMAL PRODUCTS. THIS is fact. We can get b12 from synthetic sources and this is actually how you get it too because the animals you eat are fed b12 supplements! You're self-righteous when all you say has already been refuted by everybody. Vitamin d, seriously? Ever heard of the sun?
seymourLlama 1 year ago 2
Haha!!! All I did was state that I don't have a problem raising children on a vegan diet which is purely OPINION. An opinion that I'm entitled to. And now there are aggressive and ignorant people on YOUTUBE of all places trying to insult and intimidate me. Go read a book or something. Seriously. Now GOODBYE!!! :D
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
@flyyingteapot Yes, you are entitled to your own opinions, facts are a different matter. I think if you do a little reading outside of your comfort zone, perhaps Google Scholar, you will find a lot of evidence that shows the Vegancult diet is not very good for most people and is terrible for developing kids. There are lots of antinutrients in many plant based foods, that is really bad because plant based nutrients are inferior to animal based, non heme iron is one example.
tickyul 1 year ago
i raise my kids on a vegan diet and they are healthy and beautiful,the real child abuse is convincing your kids that there is an invisible man up in the sky that is going to condemn them to eternal pain and suffering if they dont bow to him
geiuy 1 year ago 2
@geiuy The development of the Central Nervous System occurs for the most part in the first five years. Things like iron, Dha/Epa, B vitamins are essential for this process, Vegan diets have either poor quality or quantity of these and many other nutrients. Plants also contain many antinutrients which block absorption of these very important components of Cns development.
tickyul 1 year ago
@geiuy The parent cannot help themselves, as members of the Vegancult their brains have atrophied.
tickyul 1 year ago
They are all so underweight and tiny - with obvious stunted mental and physical growth.
Vegan diets do not work for children, only adults.
Vegetarian is fine though is carefully managed.
Kelly2357 1 year ago
@Kelly2357 Creepy heh, those poor kids, something very odd about them....tiny, thin and something else that I cannot put my finger on?????
tickyul 1 year ago
don't*
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
Man, this feminist shit is really out of control. I WILL NEVER deprive my children of the best nutrients available, so that they can develop into healthy adults. And all you celery heads who think otherwise are committing child abuse.
Is it a coincidence most vegetarians are women? Your children will grow up weak and frail.
bishop102 1 year ago
@bishop102 Yes, these people are crazy...mostly weak minded women. I mean, if you want to eat a crap diet no skin off my back. But, putting your kid on a jackrabbit diet is pathetic and the epitome of selfishness. If you want to make your kid a Veganculter at least wait until they are 5 when most of their CNS has developed.
tickyul 1 year ago
That one skinny lady with the long hair is a fucking fruitcake..
miafan89 1 year ago
@miafan89 99.999% of Veganculters are out of their minds, especially the ones who put their INFANTS on this insane diet.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul I can believe that. I couldn't believe it when that lady said drinking cows' milf isn't natural. Fucking self-righteous idiots who think they know what they're talking about. Btw that punk has some fucked up looking earrings..
miafan89 1 year ago
@miafan89 Uh, nothing that these crazies do or say suprises me any more. Yeah, sure....your kid is sickly and weak on this insane diet.....but....feed them real food, no way!
tickyul 11 months ago
I'm 18 and vegan. If I ever have kids in the future, they'd obviously eat vegan at home. But it when they got older they wanted to eat non-vegan foods outside the home, that's entirely their decission. There's a difference between encouraging something and forcing it.
flyyingteapot 1 year ago 2
@flyyingteapot Uh, you got it bakcwards dearie. If you want to put your kids on the Vegancult diet, it would pose the least danger to put them on it after age 5.......when most of their CNS has developed. At least you give these kids a chance to be normal if you delay putting them on this strange Vegancult diet.
tickyul 1 year ago
Uh, no I didn't, dearie. Veganism isn't a cult. I'm vegan to help prevent poverty in third world countries, save water, for the animals and the environment. If living compassionately is considered to be the behaviour of some sort of cult in your eyes, that's rather concerning. Giving the kids a chance to be 'normal'? Vegan = 'strange'?
We're all born vegan. We aquire a taste for animal products because we're fed it. I suggest you go read a book on vegan nutrition. Goodbye :)
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
@flyyingteapot Uh, a group or sect that acts weird, that is one definition of a cult, the Vegancult is right at home there. And guess what, being a member of the Vegancult is going to do NOTHING about 3rd world poverty, a very complexd problem that needs many cures. If you do not want to make animals suffer, just eat chicken, they have brains the size of a piece of gravel...they don't mind getting gobbled down. Vegans are over six times more likely than nonvegans to have brain atrophy.
tickyul 1 year ago
Uh, claiming veganism is 'weird' is opinion. Not fact. Your ignorance really if baffling.
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
@flyyingteapot Ok, 5 years from now, when you have gotten sick from this diet and will finally admit it........you will think of me...Tickyul. Just open your mind and do some poking around, you will read LOTS of horror stories about people getting sick on the Vegancult diet. Just do one thing, go Google the following term: "veganism""brain atrophy", it will shock you.
tickyul 1 year ago
Think of you? Don't flatter yourself. You think I actually remebered you from your previous comment? Get over yourself.
You don't have to think veganism is a-okay but you should atleast respect the rights of people to live as they wish as vegans. If you don't like, ignore it instead of abuse randoms. So while you're eating hen periods and drinking pus & mucus filled breast milk from another species, I'll be living with a clear conscience on a healthy and yummy diet :D Now shoo, fly. Goodbye :D
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
@tickyul Do you not understand the fricken english language???? Did you do poorly with reading comprehension??? I made the point clearly, do your insane Vegancult diet all you want, when it comes to putting small kids on this pathetic diet I will say what I think.....insanity. Did you google the term I told you about, are you afraid to learn something new.......or afraid that I am right. I have been eating chicken for many years, never found pus in ANY part....another Vegancult myth.
tickyul 1 year ago
@flyyingteapot Yeah, and just for your information Dearie............BREAST MILK is considered an animal product, so you fail again.
tickyul 1 year ago
I would love to raise any future kids of mine vegan. I'm not 100% vegan right now but I'm working on it. I seriously doubt my hubby would be open to raising vegan kids but I'm sure he'd be fine with vegetarian kids :) I know the health benefits are great and I'd feel bad feeding my kids meat.
Littleone89 1 year ago
@Littleone89 Yeah, listen to your husband, sounds like he has some sense, not good to raise kids on a Vegancult diet, they may end up retarded or very slow. B12 and dietary cholesterol are really important for a kids first five years, aid in development of the the Cns and Pns.
tickyul 1 year ago
C'est beau de voir çà, on se sent moins seul ! ^^
Surtout quand on voit de jeunes enfants, comme ça...C'est bon pour l'avenir !
MrLaNouillette 1 year ago
@TeamDarkWater6 I like arguing, it comes from all of the meat I eat. May Veganculters suffer for forcing this crap way of life on their innocent kiddies (and maybe KITTIES TOO (vegan cats?).
tickyul 1 year ago
Nothing annoys me more, than parents forcing a lifestyle to their children. Feed them both until they are 18 years, then have them make a decision, but seriously, forcing your decisions on children is the most selfish thing I know of.
DoomExtreme1 1 year ago
@DoomExtreme1 What's the difference than a parent feeding a child a regular american diet? They're "forcing" their lifestyle of eating meat on their children. I was raised on an american diet and wasn't allowed to eat vegan until I was in my teens even with my constant begging from the age of 4 to have them not make me eat meat. I personally though will give my children the choice, to a certain degree of course. You'll never find me feeding my child processed foods.
AKeys2012 1 year ago
@DoomExtreme1 Agree, but don't expect members of the Vegancult to not be selfish, even to the point of putting their kids at risk
tickyul 1 year ago
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Those children look pretty healthy to me. They are not overweight and seem to be pretty happy in their families. What is everyone so upset about? I've seen kids eating crap diets that are more malnourished than these kids.
cosnowmomma 1 year ago
I have a question for any vegan parents: How would you react if your child grows into a teenager and decides to eat meat?
qwexas 1 year ago
@qwexas it is their choice. it isnt like we would stop loving them or something
veganchick13 1 year ago
That seitan marinade looks divine. I need the recipe!
shiz1246 1 year ago
@shiz1246 Not even close to the real thing, just keep wishing with your fake meats
tickyul 1 year ago
I definitely would raise my kids vegan. Maybe then they won't be as sick as I was when I was a kid! I was raised on a standard diet and I was sick constantly with ear infections, sore throat, colds, and other classic childhood ailments. Since becoming vegan as a young adult, I rarely get sick and when I do feel a cold or sore throat coming on it goes away within a day and congestion is next to nil.
keisan 1 year ago
Them kids, something don't look right. Feed them food, real food.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Why are you so passionate about the way other people live their lives? are you one of those notorious ex vegans I hear about or just plain hateful?
AKeys2012 1 year ago
@AKeys2012 Push this crap on a little kid, a true sign of the lack of nutrients. Why don't members of the Vegancult let their kids eat a normal diet for at least the first 8 years, then ask them if they would like to try a Weird, unhealthy way of eating.
tickyul 1 year ago
Being vegan is 'weird'? Drinking the milk from another species (originally meant for their young) is weird. Not to mention gross.
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
@flyyingteapot Hey Celery Head! If our ancestors thousands of years ago followed your stupid fucking diet we would've never evolved such a sophisticated brain. The bottom line is MEAT more specifically cooked MEAT is what allowed us to become the most intelligent beings on the planet, and there is not 1 scientist on the PLANET who will refute this fact. If our ancestors ate what you eat now we would all be Monkeys. So I'll continue to eat my MEAT thank you very much!
bishop102 1 year ago
Firstly, celery is gross. Bleugh. Secondly...DUH! I'm, well aware that eating meat assisted our evolution as human beings. Did I say that wasn't true? No. My PERSONAL BELIEF is that we as people no longer need meat. It's no the fact that people eat it, it's how it's obtained. "So I'll continue to eat my MEAT thank you very much!". Haha seriously? I don'y give a shit what some angry random on YT thinks. Do whatever you like. I just won't it eat. That's what I care about-not you. GOODBYE :D
flyyingteapot 1 year ago
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WananasPalmTree 1 year ago
Veganism sucks. Those kids look so retarded...
jeepboyfly 1 year ago
@jeepboyfly Poor kids, the Veganculters force this crap on them.
tickyul 1 year ago
Nice! I wish I could have been vegan since I was a baby.
miguelmxdecarvalho 1 year ago 28
One of the most awful and stupid propaganda...
rui04 1 year ago
One shouldn't have a problem with tooth decay due to a vegan diet. Tooth decay could be caused by a lack of calcium (causing weak teeth and other bones) and lots of starch and sugar in the diet (sitting on the teeth and breeding plaque). There is no reason that milk and eggs should make one's teeth stronger and less prone to decay.
lovespiggy 1 year ago 10
@lovespiggy But the acids of excess fruit will surely damage teeth. I am able to eat candy and sweets fine, but, start eating lots of fruit and my teeth start hurting.
tickyul 1 year ago
@lovespiggy Actually milk goes a long, long way to building stronger teeth and preventing cavities, especially during younger years. You should do more research nefore posting about things you know nothing about.
keysmmzero 11 months ago
@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
lovespiggy 11 months ago 3
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@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
lovespiggy 11 months ago
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@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
lovespiggy 11 months ago
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@keysmmzero You're probably thinking that because milk is known to be rich in calcium and calcium is a major component of bones. But milk is not the only source of calcium - it's not even the best source of calcium. If one is judging sources of calcium by calcium in a given measure, ounce for ounce or cup for cup, almonds, kale, collard greens and spinach are provide the consumer more calcium. They also have the added benefit of not coming from mistreated animals.
lovespiggy 11 months ago
i hope these parents don´t make it too hard for the children...and let them choose by themselves....otherwise they could be against veganism, when they´re grown up...
Sebastian7908 1 year ago
@Sebastian7908 No, they are member of the Vegancult, must make sure their poor kiddies are brainwashed too. I mean, hey, if you are going to live on a sad, distasteful diet you might as well make your kid suffer too.
tickyul 1 year ago
One more thing I would add to this. Whatever this video may try to suggest and as upsetting as it is for myself and many others to watch *real* child abuse done to childrens health before they even have a chance, we shouldn't be concerned that this behavior will spread widely. The so called "vegans" will not last. If they don't constantly seek new recruits, there numbers will quickly diminish through infertility and/or children dying before they reach adulthood. They're not sustainable.
yunta51 1 year ago
@yunta51 Yes, you hit it right on the head, these people are wrapped up in a cult, they will push this crap on their kids even if they get sick. Yeah, that's right, the people who are so insane they would let their kids die because they are trapped in the Vegancult are out of their minds.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul I was responding to someone who said b12 only existed in animal products - which is false. What do you have against vegans exactly? I read a few posts of yours where you claim that vegans are cult-like and insane. You seem to have a lot of anger built up towards vegans, just wondering where it's all coming from.
Trainwrek3 1 year ago
@Trainwrek3 Uh, non animal sources of b12, name them for me please. There are b12 analogues in a lot of vegan products, these are largely ineffective as an active source of b12 for the human body.
tickyul 1 year ago
those kids look healthy... some people just want to stir up trouble. i'm a vegan and i'm planning on raising my kids vegan, as i have vegan friends with vegan kids who are perfectly healthy and happy. deficiencies don't happen in people who eat balanced diets and who take multi-vitamins.
FancyMouseGal 1 year ago
@FancyMouseGal Dem kids look like pasty zombies, I bet their blood profile look pretty bad, deficient in lots of things, or they will soon be.
tickyul 1 year ago
"animals are our friends" What a stupid claim to make. What a dangerous thing to tell a child. What a lack of understanding of nature.
RaychSeldon33 1 year ago
@RaychSeldon33 Aminals are our friends, out delicious meat type friends that are meant to be gobbled down.
tickyul 1 year ago
I'm not vegan myself, but those kids look really healthy to me. I had a friend who was Vegan and raised her son vegan a few years ago and when I look back I feel terrible. without understanding anything really, I always told her how wrong she was. But now I've ended up doing more research on it, and the more I do the more unintelligent I feel thinking I can only be healthy eating a diet which kills so many. I understand why people worry, but I think you should do the research before judging.
stupidflounders 1 year ago
Charles Manson was a militant vegan.
jetthead756 1 year ago
''heureux et independants''..happy and independant>>yeah right....starting by make them follow YOUR life style!!!
wondermega4ever 1 year ago
@wondermega4ever how can you parent without imposing your lifestyle to your children? The point of parenting is making choices for your child... she most likely meant that they would be able to make their choice whether to eat animals or not later in life.
dekitai20 1 year ago
ridiculous.young children require healthy amounts of protein and fats in order to develop. Their little brains are made of fats. Breast milk contains saturated fats and cholesterol. And why do you never see a black vegan?
monkmellon 1 year ago
@monkmellon you seem to imply that there is no protein of fat in the vegetable kingdom? I personally know a black vegan, but what does it matter?
dekitai20 1 year ago
FOOD SWINGS!
Trainwrek3 1 year ago
I wish my parents had raised me this way. I would feel so much pure. I had to make the change myself. It is scary to see overweight and unhealthy three-year-olds.
aaalexaleman 1 year ago 2
@aaalexaleman I have been a vegan since birth, I am sooo pure that my poop does not even smell bad, in fact it smells like roses and dafodills.
tickyul 1 year ago
what did you feed him when he was a baby? probly like protein tablets or watever you guys eat..
sneakybeaver100 1 year ago
Hell yeah your children are going to so awesome!!!
i also love how none of these kids are fat little shits..... YAY Vegans!
Emily1ime 1 year ago
hahaha she said "vag"
Pr3dat0r5000 1 year ago
here, in France, only 1.7 per cent of the population are vegetarian... ant less are vegan.
When I said "I am Vegan", everybody thinks I am crazy. Same my doctor in agains this. Be vegan In France in hard, in other country in Europe it's different. For example, in Germany, 7 percent are vegetarian,
I think vegan parents make the good choice. Congratulations ! In France, every one said vegan parents are mad parents, and eat meet and milk is an obligation...
Poor France
(sory for my English)
madtux01 1 year ago
@madtux01 Vegancult is not a good choice, truly a poor way of eating. You do know that b12 is vital for life and health? You cannot get b12 from any other source except ANIMAL sources, anolouges may actually be detrimental to health. There is a whole list of other nutrients that the Vegan diet does a poor job delivering.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul I am not agree, I know people who are vegan since born, and they are in perfect health (more of 40yo). the only nutriment you cant found in great quantity in the B12, and only this one. The B12 i take is the product of bacterias (in laboratory).
I actually read for you the ingredients of the box of B12 I use (Vitamine B12 Delagrange 1000µg/2 mm): acide chlorhydrique concentré, chlorure de sodium, eau... there in nothing who come from animals, so it's vegan.
madtux01 1 year ago 3
@madtux01 Yes, you better make sure you take that supplement, that is you lifeline. I prefer to get my nutrients naturally.....eggs, chicken, beef, lamb. Do you know how phony and processed tofu (and lots of other vegan junk) is, truly an unhealthy heap of junk. Tommorrow I will throw some yummy lamb pieces into the crock pot with a little water and let er rip, wow that will be so good, full of efa's, b12, protein, iron and other great stuff that lots of Vegancult people miss.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Junk food is junk food. Chips are vegan, it doesn't mean anyone can live on them. I'm vegan and I eat very little to no soy at all and very few grains ...
Vegan isn't a cult any more than people who oppose child abuse or slavery are a cult. It's about acknowledging the right of another living being to be left alone and to have the right to the body and life they were born with. That's all. And the food is really good, too.
lisacole690 1 year ago
@tickyul Excuse me, but if it's to make provocation remarks against our choise of life, not doing much. You are free not understand our choice, but what you said about veganism is absurd. I was a meat eater, I am vegan since 2 years and my health is perfect. Meat, eggs, milk dont miss me.
I make myself my soy milk and my tofu with 100% organic soy, I control what I eat and I'm proud to not eat dead bodies...
but please, be more objective and respectfull with us
(sorry for my english)
madtux01 1 year ago
@madtux01 I look at it from the basis of biology. Man needs certain nutrients, a Vegan diet does NOT supply some of these nutrients. Non heme iron is poorly absorbed, B12 comes only from animal products, Dha/Epa is most abundant from fish-plant sources (ALA) are poorly converted. I could go on but most vegans would not believe me so I will stop.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul the human body is made like vegetarian animals, not like meat eaters. In the primitive nature, human cant catch animals with his natural body, they are had to create tools. The natural meat eaters have a body made to kill (night vision, speed, agility, teeths ant nails long and pointy...) human not.
I am vegan since 2 years now, my health is perfect. I usualy make muscle sport, bicycle, karate and aïkido... and the B12 is available in otherway, and NOT only from animals.
madtux01 1 year ago
@madtux01 What vegetarian animals, please specify? We have the ability to use our great intelligence to capture prey, this is our weapon, very useful. We have a digestive system made for the perfect processing of meat and veggies, we are meant to eat both. We have canine teeth for eating meat. B12 is only available from animals, all others are analogs, very poor sources, please be careful.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul and to finish, in some of country, people are naturally vegan (with Buddhist religion)...
Be vegan is sane, my blood analyst are good, my health is perfect I'm strong, I make sport, I'm 1m80 for 82kg, my girl friend is vegan too and his health is perfect too.
I work for my country, I pay my taxes, I vote, I respect the others, I respect the choice of other people, so I wish people respect the mine...
(sorry for my English)
madtux01 1 year ago 2
@tickyul False, you can get b12 from seaweed and barley. b12 is also added to soy milk and other vegan alternatives just as it is added to regular milk. You're right though a vegan diet does do a poor job of delivering... a heart attack. I'm not trying to convert you, just get your facts right if you're going to argue with vegans on a vegan video. Take your meat eater myths to a video of some hick doing a jump on his four wheeler.
Trainwrek3 1 year ago
@Trainwrek3 Uh, the Lipid/heart hypothesis is really coming under fire, looking more and more like the scam it is. Close to 55% of the people who have heart attacks have normal or below normal cholesterol levels.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Just curious ... why are you so anti-vegan? I'd really like to know ... not for argument's sake, just to know.
lisacole690 1 year ago
@Trainwrek3 Joking right? The b12 from seaweed is analog and large servings of this stuff (30grams) have low microgram levels of b12, you cannot rely on this for b12. I hope you take a supplement in one form or another, seaweed is not going to cut it.
tickyul 1 year ago
I really surprised to see people stooping as low as to say that these children might actually be "retarded" as a result of their healthier than normal diets. It seems strange that people who are already so opposed to the idea that children could be properly raised vegan would even take the time to sit through a nearly 10 min video just to say these things.
youngpretender13 1 year ago
@youngpretender13 Uh, healthier than normal diet...no. The fact is development of the Cns occurs mainly in the first 5 years. If you raise a kid on a Vegan diet and it is lacking nutrients to support this development, there may be PERMANENT problems.
tickyul 1 year ago
veganism is healthy. Keep that blood alkaline. 10% greens of dietary intake is important.
people only fuck up because people are always into the junk.
the kids seem like any other children to me.
People coming on here and blaming "retardation" on "veganism" seems like a cultish slander.
"oh wait, that guy is skinny! he must be vegan!"
"oh wait, that guy said 1 + 1 is 3! he must be vegan!"
and more BS.
00rpc 1 year ago
Natural or not, I feel best when my diet is mainly composed of cooked animal. I believe that it has become very trendy for people to consider meat as bad and unhealthy, I feel nothing is further from the truth. Meat has a list of health benefits that make just about every other food (except eggs) look pretty weak in comparison. From the high quality absorbable amino acid profile to the very absorbable iron it contains, meat is a great food.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
lol, I've seen this comment before. way to spam vegan videos.
00rpc 1 year ago
@00rpc Uh, you do not really know the meaning of Spam do you? I posted a well thought out, non commercial message on Youtube and you think that is Spam. I found a subject that was of interest to me at the time and posted this message TO VARIOUS VIDEOS ON THE SAME SUBJECT, NOT SPAM. It is easy for you to just look away when you see my horrible post.
tickyul 1 year ago
@00rpc Spam? My post is a commercial electronic communication for the purpose of financial gain? You do not know what you are talking about.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
Meat also has and equally long list of health reasons as to why you shouldn't eat it.Then when you add the cruelty that happens in order to obtain meat everything seems to tip in balance to NOT consume it.
Emily1ime 1 year ago
@Emily1ime No, you are wrong, meat is a health food. I would challenge you to show me a study that ISOLATES meat as a cause of all of these health problems. The biological availability of nutrients in meat/eggs is hands down so much better than ANY vegan foods. As for cruelty in meat production, hey, have you ever seen a lion capture din din....it aint pretty.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
If you went out chased down your pray rip its neck open with your teeth then ate it raw, Then Maybe you could compare the meat industry to a Lion Capturing "Din din"...... but probably not aye.
Emily1ime 1 year ago
@Emily1ime The point I was trying to make is that it is a fantasy to think there is not a huge amount of suffering and death involved in the animal kingdom, man is only responsible for a small part of it. The death of an animal in nature is usually a lot crueler than what man does.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
So what your saying is That its justifiable for us to kill them because we kill them less painfully. So here's your logic First of all ill just say that not all animals are hunted and killed in the wild a lot die of old age etc !SO! here's how i'm transferring your logic so you understand what you said. *Because i believe a human could die in a horrific accident That makes its justifiable For me to "Humanly" kill them myself.*
Emily1ime 1 year ago
@Emily1ime Well, do you want us meat eaters to devour them while they are still alive, that is what a lot of wild animals do. I truly believe god put animals on this earth, in part to keep man healthy. There are just too many yummy meat type creatures, have to try them all.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
ah sorry your argument became invalid the moment you mentioned your god.
Emily1ime 1 year ago 2
@tickyul There is nothing in nature that even begins to replicate what humans do to nonhuman animals. Nature is far less cruel than humans.
As far as B12, humans produce it in exactly the same way as nonhuman animals. NONE of us are making our own B12 because we wash our food now. "Food" animals aren't in the conditions to produce their own B12 any more than we are. That's why so many non-vegans are B12 deficient. It's very dangerous to believe you're getting these nutrients when you're not.
lisacole690 1 year ago
@lisacole690 Uh, you are really wrong about the horrors of nature vs man. A lion will at times start eating what it has caught....... even before it has killed it. Hyenas literally tear their dinner apart in the most vicious manner, no pretense of civility. As for b12, anologues have a very poor conversion rate and if you rely on the tiny bit you can get from internal production, you will come up very short.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Animals in slaughter houses must be alive when their throats are slit. In the US, that's law. It's so their still beating hearts can pump the blood out (true carnivores like blood soaked meat, humans do not ... and blood soaked is far different from "rare") ... so, when they're stunned they are often not unconscious and many times are still alive and aware when their hides are ripped off and they are dismembered. I know of no wild animal or any incident in nature that can compare. cont.
lisacole690 1 year ago
How come all these kids look like they have mental retardation? I guess that proves what I and others have said you need to eat meat for normal brain function. It is true though that eating too much meat causes issues. Because that is also going against what we are desighned to do and that is to eat both meat and plant matter.
Too much of one or the other and you get problems.
avmf8 1 year ago
@avmf8
You are probably right about these kids have mental retardation. I can see that too.
According to many studies you can find on pubmed, B12 deficiency of vegan mothers causes sever and irreversible brain damages in their babies. I'm not surprise if those kids have an atrophy and demyelination in their brains which you can not see from outside. Although it would be natural and easiest thing to get B12 from eating meat, those vegans have a choice to take B12 supplement or fortified food.
jeepboyfly 1 year ago
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When I have kids I'm definitely raising them vegan, too.
kimber0987 1 year ago
@kimber0987 Reconsider, members of the Vegancult who force this sickness on thier kids often times cause permanent damage to their kids. Myelation of the Central Nervous System requires dietary cholesterol......due to the fact that the liver of kids 2 and under have unreliable production of this essential substance.
tickyul 1 year ago
Although carefully planed vegan diet should be fine to the adult, our children may need extra nutritions for proper brain and other physical development. If you are vegan, you know what kind of nutrients tend to be luck in your food. For kids and the women during pregnancy on vegan diet, you might find some supplements very useful but also will be easily over used. So please just don't force you and your kids on extreme diet without the advise of nutritionist.
Cathylvscandy 1 year ago 15
@Cathylvscandy Both the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada claim that vegan diets are appropriate for ALL stages of life: infancy, childhood, and onward.
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@kimberlily1983
I don't see any sense to encourage people go on vegan diet without proper education. ADA positioned to encourage people to have more vegetables in US although they also stated that supplements or fortified foods can provide useful amounts of important nutrients for vegans which is too obvious.
But I should say that more careful research should be done before ADA claim vegan diets are appropriate for all stage of life.
jeepboyfly 1 year ago 9
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@jeepboyfly Well, more and more studies are being done all the time, and have been done for a long time now, and we've seen a shift from "is veganism healthy?" to "is meat consumption healthy?". It's longer disputable that a vegan diet is as good as a meat-eater's diet; now the questions being asked are "is it better?" and by some "how much better?". At what point will there be enough evidence for you, I wonder?
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
You wonder, huh?
Well, more and more strict vegetarian raised their children with vegan diets, we've seen more medical reports about children of vegetarian mother have sever and irreversible damaged, in general, physical examination revealed psychomotoric retardation, apathy, muscular hypotonia, abnormal movements and failure to thrive. Laboratory analysis showed a megaloblastic anaemia. MRI of the brain revealed diffuse frontotemporoparietal atrophy and retardation of myelination.
jeepboyfly 1 year ago 10
@jeepboyfly All the cases I've read about have been cases where parents were not feeding their children enough food, or were feeding them more restrictive fruitarian diets (technically a vegan diet, but not recommended by the ADA, or any other health organization I know of. If I eat nothing but a slice of bread and a banana everyday, of course I'd get sick). Similarly, meat-eating parents who starve their kids are, surprise surprise, making their kids sick. Is that evidence against meat eating?
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@kimberlily1983
Where did you get the cases? Just go pubmed and search the articles on medical journal. There you find surprise surprise.
Starve their kids? have a slice of bread and a banana, huh? Are you in North Korea or Africa? Oh, I forgot, there are about 50 million people living in food insecure households and many starving kids in US. But somehow B12 deficiency from dietary inadequacy are common in infants breastfed by vegans and vegetarian who have been on the diets for many years.
jeepboyfly 1 year ago
@jeepboyfly Sadly, many of these food insecure households are ones where the parents spend their money on alcohol, drugs, gambling, or medications to treat diseases (which are, more often than not, related to overconsumption of animal products, like heart disease). In these cases, these families could afford HEALTHY vegan diets. As for other cases, where the parents are not at fault, I think the government should be doing more to help.
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@jeepboyfly B12 deficiency is a very serious issue, indeed, and you'd be right to point out that vegans who don't ensure a healthy intake are setting themselves up for problems down the road. Sometimes children are involved, and the consequences can be devastating. I agree with you there. But this is not proof that veganism is dangerous. This is proof that messing with malnutrition is dangerous. No less dangerous for meat eaters, in fact (beware high cholesterol, heart disease, etc.).
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@kimberlily1983 Bull, no way the Vegancult diet can compare to an omnivorious diet...... which man is best suited for. No B-12 in Vegan foods, poor source of usable iron, where are the efa's such as Epa and Dha??? Highest quality protein award goes to........eggly wegglies.......are these an option for a Veganculter???
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul The ADA and Dietitians of Canada compare the vegan diet favorably to an omnivorous diet. (See their joint position paper on vegetarian diets, which covers vegan diets). Why not educate yourself on nutritional issues before you open your mouth next time?
B-12 in fortified foods and supplements; iron is absorbed just fine, particularly with higher vitamin C levels typical of vegan diets, EPA and DHA are not EFAs; ALA is an EFA, and it can be found in flax, walnuts, canola oil, etc.
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@kimberlily1983 I am sure that these organizations give their OPINIONS on various subjects relating to nutrition. Mans physiology requires certain nutrients to thrive, some of these are lacking in a Vegancult diet....no matter what these political health groups say. If you are a Veganculter at the very least you should take a strong vit/min supplement. Iron guidelines for Vegans are 1.5 times higher than non-Vegans because non-heme iron is low in elemental iron and poorly absorbed.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul You have to intake vitamin C with your veggie iron intakes *cough*, but I mean 44 years old and responding to like every comment, making real "objective" points, ARGUING OVER THE INTERNET and I'm sure all your facts are empirical and through your personal study, probably doesn't tell nothing about you.
Aaaand since you are a superneurobioengineerscientist with a black belt in everything, because you read a lot of interwebz and magazines, I think, you're opinion is valid. Sure, why not..
Humanoids 1 year ago
@tickyul look dude, i've been a vegan for years, get annual blood tests and i'm consistently fine with iron, b12, d, etc. not saying everyone should go vegan, but for the love of god drop the nutritional argument, you sound like a broken record. the childish nicknames for the shit you're talking about doesn't help either.
DrazharX 1 year ago 2
@tickyul The organizations I mentioned are highly regarded as top authorities in their field. They are not free of political influence, this is true, but the influence is coming from the meat and dairy industries. When these same organizations then go on to say that vegan diets are the healthiest, you know it means something!
Iron requirements are higher for vegans, that's right, but it is very easy to get enough nonetheless. While non-heme iron is less well absorbed....
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@tickyul ... the difference is not as great as you think: where only 10% of non-heme iron is typically absorbed, only 20% of heme iron is absorbed: so in general, all iron is poorly absorbed. Vegans typically consume more vitamin C rich foods, which puts absorption of non-heme iron closer to that of heme, greatly increasing it. So your worries, while no doubt noble and coming from pure motives, are unfounded: it is easy to get everything we need on vegan diets. :)
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@kimberlily1983 I think the full picture is a little more bleak. I have read that Non-heme has a couple of different things going against it. First, the absorption varies by person from 2-15%. Second, there are substances in lots of Non-heme sources that actually block the absorbtion of iron. Many of the best sources of plant iron have lots of other anti-nutrients. I have read the guidlines for Vegetarian iron are 1.5 times as high as Non-Vegetarian iron.
tickyul 1 year ago
I've already addressed some of your concerns. Read my posts again. :) As for absorption levels varying per person, iron absorption typically decreases when the diet is too iron-rich and increases when iron is normal or low. This is a good thing, it has protective effects. :) As for anti-nutrients, that is not something for healthy people eating balanced diets to be worried about. Absorption of various vitamins and nutrients is rarely 100%, and dietary recommendations account for this.
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
@kimberlily1983 Well, the facts are what is important. Just go to Google Scholar and type in some terms with reference to Veganism......like......oh, say "infants" or "failure to thrive" and see what you will get......it will be a lot. The FACT is Vegans are more likely to get Megaloblastic and iron deficient anemia. Low Absorption is a good protective mechanism IF you are not already low. Soy is a know Goiterogen, blocks uptake of sodium by the thyroid....that is just one example.
tickyul 11 months ago
I agreed. ADA report is only based on the interview of vegan mothers who may not even noticed the delayed development of their children. On the other hand, there are many cases of severe vitamin deficiency in infants breastfed by vegans which could cause lasting neurodisability. At least, vegetarian women should take vitamin supplementation during the pregnancy and nursing period.
But even after that, vegan children were reported to be lower IQ in UK.
What are you risking your children for?
Cathylvscandy 1 year ago 18
@Cathylvscandy They risk their kids health because they are brainwashed members of a cult, THE VEGANCULT. I mean, the facts are out there, I ask a lot of these Veganculters to check out Google Scholar or Pubmed, I guess a lot of them are in denial.....even when their kids are small and sickly. They put this ideology over the health of their kids.......pathetic.
tickyul 1 year ago
@Cathylvscandy
I thank my parent for raising me with a lot of variety of seasonal vegetables, almost everything from ocean, many kinds of mushrooms and meats. Compare to that, the selection of whole foods is still poor and I don't see many seasonal changes there.
What you eat is just your choice but children don't have many choices. If you need to have supplements or fortified foods, your diet needs to be changed. It's just not natural way of eating habits.
rui04 1 year ago 2
I wish my parents had raised me vegan. I never was given a choice. I was given cows milk, bacon, hotdogs, without ever really knowing the harm I was doing . Not only to my own health, the environment, but most importantly to the non human animals. My parents didn't know any better. I would definitely raise my children vegan. It's a no brainer. The only challenge would be having to deal with the ignorant peeps who seem to be incapable of critical, independent thinking.
chelseaseagull 1 year ago
What the fuck is wrong with people ? Educating children this way is fucking dishonest. Being vegan or not must be a fucking choice. This is purely endoctrination, the same way religions do.
If you damn yanks can't eat healthily without being extreme, just hang yourselves you freaks.
HaramKafir 1 year ago 20
@HaramKafir
and how is telling them to hang themselves not extream? Think about that one...
MITSUKIISDEAD 1 year ago
@HaramKafir Great fella, nice way to make a good post...then screw it up in the end. Last I checked, England had just about the same percentage of fatties as the USA.
tickyul 11 months ago
Great Vid.
hawaii29803 1 year ago
I am proud to type I have been a vegatarin sense I was nine and I am now forteen, I am a long distance runner and I am one of the best runners at my whole high school
Domodeath 1 year ago