How about making a special edition of the Bible with an intro by a well known atheist? As for what to do with the doctored Origin of Species books... I say let people read them. The absurdity contained within should be obvious to any thinking person.
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What are you guys afraid of? Your sacred text has been altered with truth. If I were you I would place your copies on eBay and send them with an insightful message from you explaining why you are so disturbed by this publication. This way you Can make a profit and get your point to someone else. I only wish you would read what Ray has written. Come to the light.
You know, if your religious leaders just would keep their statements out of science, they would not be so laughed at. I really don´t understand it.
If someone has to say something he thinks important and true, than i would keep it clear of false stuff and bogus, so that my message comes across. Why don´t they?
They are making themselves untrustworthy and unbelievable for doing so.
I am not afraid of anything. Especially where Ray Comfort is concerned. I find the man to be either willfully dishonest or willfully ignorant. Perhaps both.
I have read Darwin's Origin of Species and Comfort's intro and it is painfully obvious that the man hasn't understood anything Darwin wrote. To worsen matters Ray attempted to issue his own edited version of the book minus a few crucial chapters. This little 'faux pas' has been corrected but it still leaves the stench.
@ Wertenberger1 Most people would not have minded an intro that pointed out the flaws in the book (and there are errors, mostly due to the fact that genetics was not understood), how the methods included are not the only methods by which evolution occurs (btw both "macro and micro" evolution have been observed and documented). A biography of Darwin that mentioned his faults would not have been minded. What is minded is that demonstrably false information is presented.
I would love to have a copy to mint and show my children to serve as a perfect example of what a total dooosh does as a last resort when he knows there is no possible way he can account for his beliefs. Pride is a terrible thing after all in his case.
Btw I laughed so hard at your "unholly trinity" vid. Excellent!!
The publication is a sad sight. The first 50 pages is no more than just ad hominem attacks on Darwin, a failed appeal to authority (citing scientists like Newton that were Theists, even though they died years before Darwin's publication), and a misunderstanding of the evolutionary theory that consequently leads him to argue a strawman. The only actual scientific refutation is about 2 paragraphs long, and isn't a sound one either. Disappointing, even for Ray Comfort.
i have done a story on this and wil do an update in jan. unfortunately the copyright laws outdate on publications, however i think adding to a text of this nature this should have some sort of legal consequences for his gross attempt at reconciliation of faith and reason. fuck you ray comfort, right in the mouth.
The best response I've heard regarding counter-action was from zomgitscriss who suggested we re-print The Bible with a 50 page intro from someone like Dawkins, explaining the errors and absurdities of the book. Pass it out at churches (my idea).
@worldsworstjukebox You do realize that every religion is stagnated in their beliefs. They all start with the premises they have the whole true, and that god revealed it to their founders. You can't doubt it and can't ask for evidence, just believe it on the basis of gullible faith in authority. With that mindset, you can't change them. If you want reform, you have to create your own tribal gang, and claim everyone that precedes you got it wrong and only you get the true revelation.
Good morning! While I am curious about the content Ray added, I would rather keep my Science seperate from any wacko drivel.
If you or anybody else has a link to the text (or a pdf of it), I'd appreciate it if you could share that with me. I have been unable to find this text anywhere, and would like to attempt picking it apart with logic, reason, and facts.
These books will be collector's items in years to come. Imagine getting your hands on Galileo's Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems with a special foreword by an archbishop explaining how wrong Galileo is to claim the earth and other planets go round the sun and that Galileo simply paints pictures on the end of his telescope. This is the kind of idiocy Comfort hopes to attain. We need to be reminded every now and then how ignorant humans can be so we value our knowledge all the more.
A number of pivotel chapters have also been removed from the main text. It is not just the intro that is different about this edition of "on the origin of species".
Personally I would keep one copy as evidence of the ignorance and stupidity of some people and remove the offending bullshit from any other copies I had. If you read this Ray, let me ask you a question which you've never answered when asked before. Why aren't you trying to spread your poison in your native NZ? Is it true that it's because you'd be laughed out of the country again and that only in the US can you actually make money doing it?
Agreed but It wouldn't be that bad cause the proceeds would be going to charity - kinda like "Donate to Charity and get a copy of this humorous BS free"
If the Secular Students Alliance was the charity, then I would easily be willing to pay $100 for a copy. I really want one, but only if the money goes to some charity in opposition to Comfort.
Thats what I'm sayin... Only sell the copies that were collected for free around campus - DON'T buy any from Comfort... The cool thing here is that it shows Comfort that we're not afraid (i.e. we wanna read his stuff). Second it goes to a good cause without funding a bad cause (i.e. Comfort) - We should totally do it
Someone said on one of these threads that rayray's version was missing some chapters and that the ones left in were re-arranged or renumbered to hide that.
Darwin did not exist, neither did Jesus or Shakespeare and many other historical figures. the creation of all those gentlemen has been the result of society's collective imagination as well as a bunch of smart Illuminati & Freemason guys (plus the founders of The Church, Stock Market, IMF et al) who wanted to put us on with revolutionary or 'different' ideas about the origins of life and mysterious stuff like that! and they succeeded too: we're spending our precious time here talking about them!
You could hold an open reading of the Darwin part and an open excoriation of the Comfort part. Suggest it to your Biology teacher: extra credit essay for the best critical essay on Comfort's rant and include a copy of it in a re-passing out of the book.
I'll tell you what I did. I added some of my own words to the bible, recorded a reading, and uploaded it to my channel. Though I've gotten over 600 five star ratings on it today, Christians don't seem to appreciate it. Huh...Imagine that.
If youve seen Thunderfoots discussions with Ray, he admits he doesnt really know anything about science or evolution. It seems he just opposes evolution theory for the sake of it, as it conflicts with his own beleifs.
he is therefore hardly qualified to refute anybody scientific works.
If I were you, have a nice big bonfire with those books (oh the irony)!
These books are a great piece of dogmatic history. A few centuries from now, we can hope enlightened students will appreciate your good fight for a free mind and find this book to be a historical gem.
Suggestion: Donate the books to the Secular Students Alliance and hold a charity auction. I would love a copy just for the novelty. In 50 years it could be a collectible from the last Age of Unreason (I hope).
You could organize a book burning. Or, for even greater lulz, organize a (private) bible & christian literature burning, but instead of actual bibles etc. use old phone books and catalogues. Film everything, and edit it so that it appears as if you're burning actual bibles. Everyone should wear the black & red New Atheism shirt and act all serious. Post on youtube, sit back and lol. Later post the unedited version with some sarcastic comments & lol some more.
Just to clarify, you don't have to publicize recycling it. If you recycle it without making a big deal, you also refuse Banana Man his spotlight. It's a win-win!
Just to clarify, you don't have to publicize recycling it. If you recycle it without making a big deal, you also refuse Banana Man his spotlight. It's a win-win!
Nothing; you should do nothing with the books. Ray's stunt is meaningless without a reaction and his goofy preface will go away soon enough, just as an unwatered fern quickly turns brown and dies.
Did they leave out the chapters that PZ was talking about? Chapters 11 and 12, over biogeography, and Chap 13, the discussion on classification? Since the Bible, and Koran (among others) are also public domain, perhaps it's time for an introduction on them? "Caution: these are all works of fiction developed by uneducated peasants to explain their world. These works have also been widely used to support crimes against humanity. Use sparingly and with adult supervision in a well ventilated area."
You should write your own response to Rays forward pointing out all the flaws in his arguments/attacks against Darwin, include them in a packet with the book, and give the copies to the library but only if the library will only allow them to be taken out as bundles (book and response). That way your not censoring nor being censored. :)
Spoil them with mildew then mail them back to Ray Comfort Postage Due.
Except that just furthers the waste. First Ray wastes paper, ink, and fuel distributing a book that he has excised 3 chapters from. To then mail them back would increase the waste of fuel and vehicle wear and tear.
Ray, you're such a dick that my words are inadequate to express the scorn I feel for you.
I want one, please. I could show it to all my rather very conservative Christian co-workers and say ...things. But seriously, I'd consider it a collector's item. And I want to read the Origin of Species (and maybe chuckle at the Comfortism, if the mood strikes me).
Scratch in counter-points and references in the margins... He defaced one of the most important works of humankind. You can't just leave it untouched.
Rip it out and he'll scream censorship? It's disgusting that Comforts name is in a book that will be referred to for the rest of human history. Once Christianity is gone, the only people who'll care about it are historians. If you look at all the great people who did something to progress humankind, nobody today cares about their religion, except other religious people, barely. For what use is it to teach someone's faith alongside one's science? None.
I know... "We'll have us a little book barbecue in the yard. They'll see the flames for miles. We'll dance around it like wild Injuns!"
...mmm... well, on second thought, that might not be the best course...
I'd ask people to guess the quote, but I think it's a bit obvious. Maybe I should ask who can't guess it... if you can't, that can only mean one thing: you just haven't LIVED!
Highlight any apocryphal or false claims and add annotations to explain how and when they have been disproved. Cite the annotations. Add a 50 page satire explaining how Newton is evil and how that makes gravity false.
I was disappointed when I didn't see them on my campus yesterday, but this morning (19th) walking to class I was ambushed by a person holding a stack of them and now have my very own copy^^
Darn it, someone beat me to that idea! I wouldn't pay for it if Ray was getting the money, but if the SSA was then I would be willing to pay for a copy.
I want to do a comedy bit with it. I of course get handed the book as Ray has planned, next scene I am at a bathroom that has no toilet paper.... use your imagination.
PLEASE mail me one of those! I'd gladly pay shipping, too. I wasn't aware of them giving any away in the Omaha area, and I definitely wouldn't want to purchase it from Comfort, giving him any funds. Gag. He's got enough of that from the stupid populace.
Yup, they hit the University of North Texas... no where near a top 50 school.
If only they had been two days early... we had Dan Barker give a talk here Tuesday night, and it would have been interesting to see what he thought of the whole thing.
If you could spare a copy send me one. I don't have transportation to go to the college nearby me to get one so I was stuck at home. Bananaman makes me laugh. :D
You seem to be confusing the term 'atheist' with 'evolutionary biologist'. Not all atheists are as educated on the topic of evolution, but know the basics.
Whereas creationists know nothing of evolution and those that deny it takes place are uneducated or seriously misinformed.
Atheists need to chill out? When an imbecile attacks science after admitting he knows nothing about the subject, we shouldn't 'chill out'. And it's not just the atheists, anyone with common sense and average intellect should do something to educate the weak minded that Ray has targetted.
Put an anotation in the front " Introduction written by an uneducated layman, these 50 pages are nothing more than a personal attack, also 4 chapters of the original book have been removed"
If you want to get rid of a couple of those copies have a give away contest to yore subscribers. Judging from a couple of comments that a few of yore subcribers would enjoy recieving a copy of the book. Just a thought...LIVE LONG and PROSPER!!!
I so want one, I asked Ray on his blog if he would send me one over here in the UK, but alas no.
I think this is one of those things you keep to show your grandkids. Look kids, when I was your age this is the kind of stupid crap we had to put up from creationist wack jobs.
Creationists won't read it because it looks too much like a science book. No one with a functional brain will read it because it's obviously creationist rubbish. I see it as a last-ditch effort of a desperate man and his organization trying to salvage their ludicrous creationist philosophy from its inevitable demise!
I say add another 50 pages the point out everything that he has mentioned in his 50 pages that are incorrect and just plain wrong. then give them out again for free.
how old are you?
Wittgensteinism 10 months ago
when you run out of bible paper to roll your blunts, use those!
Bockatadi 1 year ago
I've read that Ray's version has left out entire chapters of Darwin's theory. Don't know if it's true.
UndergroundAtheist 1 year ago
Make up........................Jesus
dithbmine1 1 year ago
How about making a special edition of the Bible with an intro by a well known atheist? As for what to do with the doctored Origin of Species books... I say let people read them. The absurdity contained within should be obvious to any thinking person.
MrHappyHumanist 1 year ago
I was bout to propose that exact idea about the bible and I scrolled down here and you stole it!
AidanTAKFW 1 year ago
Great minds stink...errr, I mean think alike! =p
MrHappyHumanist 1 year ago
People with cats could use Comfort's "foreward" to line a cat's litter box. Of course, they might refuse to shit!
SuperImready 2 years ago
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What are you guys afraid of? Your sacred text has been altered with truth. If I were you I would place your copies on eBay and send them with an insightful message from you explaining why you are so disturbed by this publication. This way you Can make a profit and get your point to someone else. I only wish you would read what Ray has written. Come to the light.
wertenberger1 2 years ago
@wertenberger1 The light?
The light of what?
You know, if your religious leaders just would keep their statements out of science, they would not be so laughed at. I really don´t understand it.
If someone has to say something he thinks important and true, than i would keep it clear of false stuff and bogus, so that my message comes across. Why don´t they?
They are making themselves untrustworthy and unbelievable for doing so.
pls respond.
martialme84 2 years ago
@wertenberger1
Most of us have read what he said, and ironically, most of the stuff he lies about could be corrected later in the very same book by Darwin himself.
Funny.
Remagoen 2 years ago
@wertenberger1
I am not afraid of anything. Especially where Ray Comfort is concerned. I find the man to be either willfully dishonest or willfully ignorant. Perhaps both.
I have read Darwin's Origin of Species and Comfort's intro and it is painfully obvious that the man hasn't understood anything Darwin wrote. To worsen matters Ray attempted to issue his own edited version of the book minus a few crucial chapters. This little 'faux pas' has been corrected but it still leaves the stench.
irreverentreverend 2 years ago
@ Wertenberger1 Most people would not have minded an intro that pointed out the flaws in the book (and there are errors, mostly due to the fact that genetics was not understood), how the methods included are not the only methods by which evolution occurs (btw both "macro and micro" evolution have been observed and documented). A biography of Darwin that mentioned his faults would not have been minded. What is minded is that demonstrably false information is presented.
cryingsoftly 1 year ago
I think you should actually try reading it. Are you scared?
marssnw 2 years ago
Does Tarzan get a mention in that book? lol
kryckeestrooff 2 years ago
I would love to have a copy to mint and show my children to serve as a perfect example of what a total dooosh does as a last resort when he knows there is no possible way he can account for his beliefs. Pride is a terrible thing after all in his case.
Btw I laughed so hard at your "unholly trinity" vid. Excellent!!
x1tekja 2 years ago
Hey, have you found out if any of the actual text was removed? If so, which sections?
hugesinker 2 years ago
Ray is a tool for ignorance!
jxaxmxixn 2 years ago
Yeah, he's a tool alright.
Griexxt 2 years ago
sign them yourself and auction them off for charity.
fartwimp 2 years ago
Attach the first two sentences of chapter 2 from God Delusion in a special edition note to Bible.
Wizard4592 2 years ago
The publication is a sad sight. The first 50 pages is no more than just ad hominem attacks on Darwin, a failed appeal to authority (citing scientists like Newton that were Theists, even though they died years before Darwin's publication), and a misunderstanding of the evolutionary theory that consequently leads him to argue a strawman. The only actual scientific refutation is about 2 paragraphs long, and isn't a sound one either. Disappointing, even for Ray Comfort.
MarxKnewBest 2 years ago
i have done a story on this and wil do an update in jan. unfortunately the copyright laws outdate on publications, however i think adding to a text of this nature this should have some sort of legal consequences for his gross attempt at reconciliation of faith and reason. fuck you ray comfort, right in the mouth.
SlapAchristian 2 years ago
The best response I've heard regarding counter-action was from zomgitscriss who suggested we re-print The Bible with a 50 page intro from someone like Dawkins, explaining the errors and absurdities of the book. Pass it out at churches (my idea).
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago 17
@worldsworstjukebox Of course, we might need more than 50 pages.
ScrubsTheOpera 2 years ago
@worldsworstjukebox That is a very good idea, though it sounds awful expensive! I would actually consider this or join groups that pass them out.
Lennon4ever1 8 months ago
@worldsworstjukebox You do realize that every religion is stagnated in their beliefs. They all start with the premises they have the whole true, and that god revealed it to their founders. You can't doubt it and can't ask for evidence, just believe it on the basis of gullible faith in authority. With that mindset, you can't change them. If you want reform, you have to create your own tribal gang, and claim everyone that precedes you got it wrong and only you get the true revelation.
petion2010 6 months ago
Good morning! While I am curious about the content Ray added, I would rather keep my Science seperate from any wacko drivel.
If you or anybody else has a link to the text (or a pdf of it), I'd appreciate it if you could share that with me. I have been unable to find this text anywhere, and would like to attempt picking it apart with logic, reason, and facts.
MultiSteveB 2 years ago
You could always use the extra 50 pages as toilet paper!!!
pbrskater26 2 years ago
Awesome!
s3llouis 2 years ago
Send me a book please! I pay the stamps and everything, i live in sweden.
rapeking 2 years ago
Sell them unaltered.
MichaelSJLH 2 years ago
These books will be collector's items in years to come. Imagine getting your hands on Galileo's Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems with a special foreword by an archbishop explaining how wrong Galileo is to claim the earth and other planets go round the sun and that Galileo simply paints pictures on the end of his telescope. This is the kind of idiocy Comfort hopes to attain. We need to be reminded every now and then how ignorant humans can be so we value our knowledge all the more.
snoberts 2 years ago 2
A number of pivotel chapters have also been removed from the main text. It is not just the intro that is different about this edition of "on the origin of species".
They are even sneekier than we thought.
automaticSOM 2 years ago
I'm surprised that they didn't edit Darwin's actual text. Has anybody looked through to see if they've altered it to suit their agenda?
IDioGenesis 2 years ago
I actually think you should rip out the "special" introduction. It's a shame to disgrace a fine book like that with Comfort's gibberish.
luptoneous 2 years ago
BURN THEM
Capadaqua 2 years ago
He turned it into the Origin of Feces
coladict 2 years ago
Personally I would keep one copy as evidence of the ignorance and stupidity of some people and remove the offending bullshit from any other copies I had. If you read this Ray, let me ask you a question which you've never answered when asked before. Why aren't you trying to spread your poison in your native NZ? Is it true that it's because you'd be laughed out of the country again and that only in the US can you actually make money doing it?
shraleina 2 years ago
You should give it to a kidnapper so he can use it to cut out letters to make ransom notes.
Or you could take pages, tape them together, and roll them up as toilet paper and put it in a public restroom. That would be lulzy
greenleafslove 2 years ago
That would be so cool book to show off here in Finland =))
muranziel 2 years ago
boop.
snackynak 2 years ago
I think Ray Comfort's added pages qualifies as grafiti. Why not rip all those pages out and stick them on a wall as a grafiti display?
davism97 2 years ago
how dare you !!!!!! why would you say somthing that bad about grafiti?!?!?! =0)
BoogieNite77 2 years ago
i want one.
thisguysajerk 2 years ago
Auction them off during a blogtv charity event
AJBonkoski 2 years ago 3
Good idea, but I would feel dirty paying money for it.
askegg 2 years ago
Agreed but It wouldn't be that bad cause the proceeds would be going to charity - kinda like "Donate to Charity and get a copy of this humorous BS free"
AJBonkoski 2 years ago
If the Secular Students Alliance was the charity, then I would easily be willing to pay $100 for a copy. I really want one, but only if the money goes to some charity in opposition to Comfort.
sef789 2 years ago 2
Thats what I'm sayin... Only sell the copies that were collected for free around campus - DON'T buy any from Comfort... The cool thing here is that it shows Comfort that we're not afraid (i.e. we wanna read his stuff). Second it goes to a good cause without funding a bad cause (i.e. Comfort) - We should totally do it
AJBonkoski 2 years ago 3
Someone said on one of these threads that rayray's version was missing some chapters and that the ones left in were re-arranged or renumbered to hide that.
Is that right?
c0gsinc0gs 2 years ago
I want one!! Please??LOL
freezebot808 2 years ago
put some on ebay... I'd like one.
nleck 2 years ago
Darwin did not exist, neither did Jesus or Shakespeare and many other historical figures. the creation of all those gentlemen has been the result of society's collective imagination as well as a bunch of smart Illuminati & Freemason guys (plus the founders of The Church, Stock Market, IMF et al) who wanted to put us on with revolutionary or 'different' ideas about the origins of life and mysterious stuff like that! and they succeeded too: we're spending our precious time here talking about them!
dadautube 2 years ago
Wow. You're nuts.
LabRat4680 2 years ago
well, but nuts don't exist either! ;)))
dadautube 2 years ago
Burn them
chefmarcgirard 2 years ago
Give them away to college students taking biology. Especially to someone who needs it as a required reading text.
jsmith224455 2 years ago
smoke them
JokeDude 2 years ago
Burn ´em!
AllmightyNiggapriest 2 years ago
I've got a bit of a wonky chair here, could do with one of those.
TheHappo 2 years ago
Maybe add your own notes in a PEN (not pencil) to the intorduction and donate a copy to a library?
mornmeril 2 years ago 2
You could hold an open reading of the Darwin part and an open excoriation of the Comfort part. Suggest it to your Biology teacher: extra credit essay for the best critical essay on Comfort's rant and include a copy of it in a re-passing out of the book.
KevJJ888 2 years ago 2
i still say just rip one page out, throw some yesca in there then roll it up light it up and smoke it up
BluesRockRo 2 years ago
I'll tell you what I did. I added some of my own words to the bible, recorded a reading, and uploaded it to my channel. Though I've gotten over 600 five star ratings on it today, Christians don't seem to appreciate it. Huh...Imagine that.
DarkMatter2525 2 years ago
distribute the "don't dis darwin" bookmark by the NCSE.
thorungal 2 years ago
I think stupidity should be censored.
xdawpax 2 years ago
If youve seen Thunderfoots discussions with Ray, he admits he doesnt really know anything about science or evolution. It seems he just opposes evolution theory for the sake of it, as it conflicts with his own beleifs.
he is therefore hardly qualified to refute anybody scientific works.
If I were you, have a nice big bonfire with those books (oh the irony)!
DarkAngel182 2 years ago
Ummm, you could use it to make an entertainment stand? paper weight? door stop?
laxguy22655 2 years ago
Handing out copies of Origin of Species is a strategy that could easy backfire for Ray Comfort, even with an introduction.
I'd hang on to them. You never know how much this snake oil could be worth in a decade or two!
bluebeard2 2 years ago
You could give your favorite sister one. =]
kelseyparamore 2 years ago
can i have one? ill pay for the shipping
SageOfScience 2 years ago
How about putting a warning sticker on the books about Comfort's idiocy, like they tried in Georgia?
Also, is this an abridgement? And is it the now-preferred First Edition of 1859 (I would hope so, since it's touted as the 150th anniversary edition?)
I LOVE THE "ORIGIN!"
AlanCanon2222 2 years ago 2
These books are a great piece of dogmatic history. A few centuries from now, we can hope enlightened students will appreciate your good fight for a free mind and find this book to be a historical gem.
TouchOfGreatness 2 years ago 7
What to do with them? How many pages in that book? That looks like a lot of paper airplanes.
Zingaia 2 years ago 2
Suggestion: Donate the books to the Secular Students Alliance and hold a charity auction. I would love a copy just for the novelty. In 50 years it could be a collectible from the last Age of Unreason (I hope).
sef789 2 years ago
Recycle them, print something smart on them.
krakers20 2 years ago
interwebs giveaway contest? seeing as they saw my university wasn't fit to recieve any....
7othestars 2 years ago
do you have some kind of man crush on ray
KIMBOSLICE66666 2 years ago
You could organize a book burning. Or, for even greater lulz, organize a (private) bible & christian literature burning, but instead of actual bibles etc. use old phone books and catalogues. Film everything, and edit it so that it appears as if you're burning actual bibles. Everyone should wear the black & red New Atheism shirt and act all serious. Post on youtube, sit back and lol. Later post the unedited version with some sarcastic comments & lol some more.
Parapon3ra 2 years ago
Parapon3ea
Sounds like a good idea but not to exclude our religious friends in all the fun
we should dress up as orthodox Jews burning Qurans
fundementalist Muslims burning the Tora ..Bible .. then
let the international media run with it and see where it all goes.
Just a thought.
patiencepays 2 years ago 2
Not sure if you could actually do this, but I heard of people taking old phone books when they got junk mail, and mailing back the phone book.
Perhaps you could mail the books back them in a way that would have Way of the Master pay all the postage? Hehe.
AylinIsAwesome 2 years ago
R-E-C-Y-C-L-E!
Dentarthurdent54 2 years ago
Just to clarify, you don't have to publicize recycling it. If you recycle it without making a big deal, you also refuse Banana Man his spotlight. It's a win-win!
Dentarthurdent54 2 years ago
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Just to clarify, you don't have to publicize recycling it. If you recycle it without making a big deal, you also refuse Banana Man his spotlight. It's a win-win!
Dentarthurdent54 2 years ago
Nothing; you should do nothing with the books. Ray's stunt is meaningless without a reaction and his goofy preface will go away soon enough, just as an unwatered fern quickly turns brown and dies.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
That's a new metaphor... I like it!
I'm just wondering how creationism is supposed to turn brown...
Dentarthurdent54 2 years ago
I want one! I couldn't get one. :(
Percadan 2 years ago
Write corrections in them pointing out the stupidity and then pass them out again.
Brewhahh 2 years ago
LOL. @ 1:40 Font Envy!
magick205 2 years ago
Did they leave out the chapters that PZ was talking about? Chapters 11 and 12, over biogeography, and Chap 13, the discussion on classification? Since the Bible, and Koran (among others) are also public domain, perhaps it's time for an introduction on them? "Caution: these are all works of fiction developed by uneducated peasants to explain their world. These works have also been widely used to support crimes against humanity. Use sparingly and with adult supervision in a well ventilated area."
magick205 2 years ago
You should write your own response to Rays forward pointing out all the flaws in his arguments/attacks against Darwin, include them in a packet with the book, and give the copies to the library but only if the library will only allow them to be taken out as bundles (book and response). That way your not censoring nor being censored. :)
jjmblue7 2 years ago
Damn, I forgot yesterday was the 19th until I was at work! i totally should have woken up early and gone to a local college if one was on their list.
jjmblue7 2 years ago
Really is sad, they did a stunning job on the covers...
Too bad they spoiled the contents.
TheRedneckAtheist 2 years ago
recycle recycle recycle
jryanshaw 2 years ago
I heard from somewhere that a few chapters in the book are missing.
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
Wanna send one of them to england? We could do with a laugh!
CkVega 2 years ago
Recycle them, SAVE THE TREES!
:P
arcooke 2 years ago
I really wish they didn't chicken out like that, I wanted a copy too :P
Northernskeptic 2 years ago
On second thought, probably just one. Don't want to give that ass that much of my moneh. My prof will prolly be sad about it LOL
moviemaker1989 2 years ago
I am going to buy two. One for me and one for my philosophy prof. Purely for teh lulz. Besides, I have never read it anyway.
moviemaker1989 2 years ago
You should hold some sort of contest and give them away.
PoDReligion 2 years ago
I've got it! We get an atheist like Thunderfoot or AaronRa to make a prefacing chapter before the prefacing chapter and launch it as a new book.
betacorpse 2 years ago
Second that one!!
Swidhelm 2 years ago
I dunno how much you could get for those in a fundraiser but maybe you could just donate the extra copies to a local library or K-12 school.
DemensAutomaton 2 years ago
You're cute as hell. No pun intended.
psychosexual99 2 years ago
I'd say read it but draw pictures of little monkeys having sex where Ray wrote stuff...
Urkinorobitch 2 years ago 4
lol.
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
''Oh look at this! this guy wrote books! he must be smart!''
lol...
Urkinorobitch 2 years ago
"The Origin of Political Dogma"
What's that you say?
Never heard of it.
Could be a best seller in the right authors hands ...Christopher Hitchens!
But probably no one would beleive the research source unlike the bullet proof, empericaly solid bibliography evidence.
LOL
brotherjupiter 2 years ago
Spoil them with mildew then mail them back to Ray Comfort Postage Due.
Except that just furthers the waste. First Ray wastes paper, ink, and fuel distributing a book that he has excised 3 chapters from. To then mail them back would increase the waste of fuel and vehicle wear and tear.
Ray, you're such a dick that my words are inadequate to express the scorn I feel for you.
GeeKayKayGee 2 years ago
I want one, please. I could show it to all my rather very conservative Christian co-workers and say ...things. But seriously, I'd consider it a collector's item. And I want to read the Origin of Species (and maybe chuckle at the Comfortism, if the mood strikes me).
v2keener 2 years ago
collector's item. i like this
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
Scratch in counter-points and references in the margins... He defaced one of the most important works of humankind. You can't just leave it untouched.
Phreek21P 2 years ago
A question: were all of the chapters included? Some printings had been censored by the cult, such as the copy Eugenie Scott was given by the cult.
Desertphile 2 years ago
Send one to me!!! I don't have enough stupid books in my library.
Christisms 2 years ago
I've heard that bits of the rest of the book have been doctored as well, not just the intro.
aceserve 2 years ago
I got two of them myself. I tried to go back after a few classes to get more, but the guy recognized me and wouldn't give me any more.
DonJohnMWBD 2 years ago
Rip it out and he'll scream censorship? It's disgusting that Comforts name is in a book that will be referred to for the rest of human history. Once Christianity is gone, the only people who'll care about it are historians. If you look at all the great people who did something to progress humankind, nobody today cares about their religion, except other religious people, barely. For what use is it to teach someone's faith alongside one's science? None.
FallenAngel0fDoom 2 years ago
Send them to the prestegious Bill Graham University
I don't think they have any copies at all.
brotherjupiter 2 years ago
Put it on a Tree of Knowledge hiring little kids to point at the doctored Copy and giggle :)
jesterspace 2 years ago
Auction them and donate the proceeds to the Richard Dawkins Foundation.
bdwilson1000 2 years ago 2
hmm, i still think you should rip out the intro. fuck comfort.
rileed 2 years ago
I know... "We'll have us a little book barbecue in the yard. They'll see the flames for miles. We'll dance around it like wild Injuns!"
...mmm... well, on second thought, that might not be the best course...
I'd ask people to guess the quote, but I think it's a bit obvious. Maybe I should ask who can't guess it... if you can't, that can only mean one thing: you just haven't LIVED!
GwydionMapDon 2 years ago
Highlight any apocryphal or false claims and add annotations to explain how and when they have been disproved. Cite the annotations. Add a 50 page satire explaining how Newton is evil and how that makes gravity false.
njb444 2 years ago
can i buy one from you??
graygryph 2 years ago
I was disappointed when I didn't see them on my campus yesterday, but this morning (19th) walking to class I was ambushed by a person holding a stack of them and now have my very own copy^^
It made for some entertaining lunch time reading.
orion1anon 2 years ago
help the environment!!!
recycle!
FadeLLW 2 years ago
Only one thing to do... Have a Bonfire of the Vanities.
papafox 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Can I have one?
centurey8901 2 years ago
You can sign them and auction them to us atheist.
Opl65 2 years ago
rays writeing is toilet paper,use it accordingly
smashbeans 2 years ago
get as many as you can and use them to spell "evolve" or a similar word
irishlonewolf88 2 years ago
oh oh oh please send me on :P
Leadman1989 2 years ago
Have an online auction for Students for Secular Alliance.
Thereminator101 2 years ago
Darn it, someone beat me to that idea! I wouldn't pay for it if Ray was getting the money, but if the SSA was then I would be willing to pay for a copy.
sef789 2 years ago 2
I wish they had passed them out at my school, I'd love to have one. Just to have the Origin of Species XD haha.
FaithAdeline 2 years ago
good point
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
Highlight his errors and add annotations in the margins correcting them, then hand them out to fundy churches in the area.
KingHeathen 2 years ago 2
You should rip out the first couple of pages and then you won't have a book several hundred years in the past.
Well, not so many hundreds of years in the past.
thatmansonkid 2 years ago
Ah bananaman, my favourite sexually repressed hero......
thatmansonkid 2 years ago
Correct all bogus claims in the introduction with a red pen and put the books back in circulation.
Although that would be a lot of work.
SAsgarters 2 years ago
Might want to use a Wagner power sprayer instead that would take a lot of red ink.
FEChariot 2 years ago
Try selling them on E-Bay and then make videos about how hard it is to get someone to buy them.
Afod3 2 years ago
I would buy them! Just rip out the intro as firepaper and keep a good book about the Origin of Species!
MrNDSteinbach 2 years ago
I want to do a comedy bit with it. I of course get handed the book as Ray has planned, next scene I am at a bathroom that has no toilet paper.... use your imagination.
TheAtheistPaladin 2 years ago
PLEASE mail me one of those! I'd gladly pay shipping, too. I wasn't aware of them giving any away in the Omaha area, and I definitely wouldn't want to purchase it from Comfort, giving him any funds. Gag. He's got enough of that from the stupid populace.
Eastmanarium 2 years ago
Yup, they hit the University of North Texas... no where near a top 50 school.
If only they had been two days early... we had Dan Barker give a talk here Tuesday night, and it would have been interesting to see what he thought of the whole thing.
AutodidacticPhd 2 years ago
If you could spare a copy send me one. I don't have transportation to go to the college nearby me to get one so I was stuck at home. Bananaman makes me laugh. :D
Jimb0can 2 years ago
I'd love a copy!!
PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE
acme181169 2 years ago
just write smart comments on every stupid claim he does on his part of the book and distribute it
adirm18 2 years ago
Challenge to all atheists!!!
You claim you know evolution? Ha.
Produce a series of questions for creationists about Darwin's book to prove that they actually read more than Comfort's introduction.
Protest? Hell no? Atheists should help DISTRIBUTE Cameron's book, adding a "free" questionaire mentioned above.
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
You seem to be confusing the term 'atheist' with 'evolutionary biologist'. Not all atheists are as educated on the topic of evolution, but know the basics.
Whereas creationists know nothing of evolution and those that deny it takes place are uneducated or seriously misinformed.
alastairguhn 2 years ago
true!!!
In fact, i'm an atheist and while I've read about evolution I'm quite iginorant about it.
However Ray's book is an opportunity!!!
SOME atheists know evolutionary biology well enough to make good questions.
Anyway, I suspect most christians with the book won';t read darwin's part.
And yes, I still think Atheist's should use Ray's gesture against him.
As long as Darwin is accurately in the book, let them have the lame intro.
Atheists suck at marketing ...
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
As an atheist, I'd distribute the book to my Christian creationist friends and then challenge them to ACTUALLY read the darwin part. SERIOUSLY.
Atheists need to CHILL OUT sometimes.
I think the fact he rehashed all the well refured arguments into a new introduction is interesting.
I would however suggests atheists print a couple of bibles with atheist introduction by Dawkins. Don't protest free speech!!!
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
Atheists need to chill out? When an imbecile attacks science after admitting he knows nothing about the subject, we shouldn't 'chill out'. And it's not just the atheists, anyone with common sense and average intellect should do something to educate the weak minded that Ray has targetted.
alastairguhn 2 years ago
play rays and camrons games :)
give them out and get peopel to read it
FratisNox 2 years ago
Put an anotation in the front " Introduction written by an uneducated layman, these 50 pages are nothing more than a personal attack, also 4 chapters of the original book have been removed"
Then give the books to a high school library
AbdultheImpailler 2 years ago
put em in a box and send em to your local church with a rebuttal.
teriy4ki 2 years ago
If you want to get rid of a couple of those copies have a give away contest to yore subscribers. Judging from a couple of comments that a few of yore subcribers would enjoy recieving a copy of the book. Just a thought...LIVE LONG and PROSPER!!!
hybeerian 2 years ago
I KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!
Seriously, put them on EBay, and donate the proceeds to a good cause like the secular students alliance or The JREF.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
You could copy the whole book, but write a 50 page "introduction" where you carefuly refute his claims.
However, that might take quite a lot of work and if teamworking, than also some good organizations to not step on each other's comments.
Unbeginner 2 years ago
I so want one, I asked Ray on his blog if he would send me one over here in the UK, but alas no.
I think this is one of those things you keep to show your grandkids. Look kids, when I was your age this is the kind of stupid crap we had to put up from creationist wack jobs.
rabbitpirate 2 years ago
I WANT ONE!! Bettery Yet, consider Ebay-ing them.
aMulliganStew 2 years ago
I think someone should hand out for free the four missing chapters that Bananaman cut out of the Origin.
Atriviality 2 years ago
Creationists won't read it because it looks too much like a science book. No one with a functional brain will read it because it's obviously creationist rubbish. I see it as a last-ditch effort of a desperate man and his organization trying to salvage their ludicrous creationist philosophy from its inevitable demise!
TheDude0fLife 2 years ago 2
*what we should do with them.
send me one. ;D
DerivedApe 2 years ago
Send me one too :D
There were at my campus, but I missed them =(
guildpactminish 2 years ago
I say add another 50 pages the point out everything that he has mentioned in his 50 pages that are incorrect and just plain wrong. then give them out again for free.
dalekkiller 2 years ago
Keep one copy because that might be a collectors item of stupidity in 50 years and the rest...probably make good fire starter or toilet paper.
RavenBlaze 2 years ago
2:45 reorganise and rebind them as unadulterated copies of The Origin of the Species.
anthonzi 2 years ago
the asshole cites himself!?! (sigh)
banonKING 2 years ago
2:30 Why wouldn't we salvage an otherwise perfectly good book? Your logic is flawed.
anthonzi 2 years ago
Yay, free butt wipe!
jimrbsn 2 years ago
Well, I would consider burning books sacrilege, even the vile ones, so give them away, sell them if anyone wants to pay for the shit.
renemartien 2 years ago
No NEVER burn books, this is evidence of the stupidity of some people !!!!! We will find this hilarious in the future !!!!!
I wouldn't mind a copy myself, I havn't got origin of the spiecies yet !!!!!!
Woooooo Hoooooo and its shiney, I like shiney !!!
edgewayround 2 years ago
Have a public reading of the introduction to the student populace, and a refutation of everything that is wrong with Comfort's "introduction".
solo03 2 years ago
I love it when people hand out free toilet paper :)
Raistlin13Majere 2 years ago
Hey that's kinda cool! I'd take a free copy of the origin of species, even if it had a few pages of jibberish in the beginning!
userjosh9874 2 years ago