Technical I personally wouldnt call unsportsmanlike the ring grab he can clearly be T'd for however the attempt to block the shot seemed to be just that, going for the ball no mallicious intent to harm the player thats pretty clear in the second replay.
dude looked like he' s even gonna complain. you held to the rim boy, goddamn stupid. if you can do that and not called a foul, then just hang in there all game long and the other team will surely not score (unless of course goal tending, which is exactly what you did!).
im pretty sure a technical foul should have been called, and have the teams best FT shooter take it...then a seperate shooting foul where the shooter gets 2 shots from the charity stripe like normal
he didn't really hang so it's an automatic 3 point play for goal tending and the foul. I mean if he had the ball would you honestly say he hung on the rim?
On the slow motion, it seems that the white player hangs on to the ring to prevent him from smashing into the back of the yellow player. That's fine. Then he goes and fouls anyway by swinging a left arm at the yellow player.
@ggr1mr3ap3r dude relax.....1....im an official for the ncaa and observer of officials.....we can't decide whats going through the players mind....in that instance he could have felt someone was underneath him.....that is why we are only to call a t on that if there is no player ANYWHERE near and i mean ANYWHERE near the play....once again good no tech call
@ggr1mr3ap3r I am look directly at number 34 in the lower key he was shooting a layup....if you don't understand what i mean by anywhere near the play let me help you....if there is anyone within what would be the NBA restricted area we are gonna let it go.....if you look at the play also he lets ago as soon as he realizes he is clear.......the hanging on the rim rule was designed for a taunting act or a show up act or one in which the player is gaining an advantage....none of these happened
you can claim he grabbed the rim to protect himself from coming down on the offensive player....good no t call.....if there is any player within reasonable distance of the person grabbing the rim you can't t him for that
Defensive player grabs the rim to get an advantage that´s a T, but he also commits a hard foul U, he sould be disqualified. Double intention on violations.
the said there was not a player underneath him, what about the dude with the ball, yes he swings past but if he didn't grab I am fairly sure that jump would have splatted him.
@rOHusted how dude? if not i could just hang on the rim all day and bloock the shit out of everyone. Its not saying its excessive and deserves a tech its saying u are not allowed to do that to gain an advantage, especially when your not even on offense.
i reckon it should just be a technical for holding onto the ring. but as dikurt has said, if the technical came as the player was shooting he should get 4 shots and possession. in this case i reckon 2 shots and possession should be the call.
But if you call the tech, isn't the ball now dead and any contact not part of the game. You can't call him for a foul after the tech. Not saying I think your wrong, I have eyes and it's clearly a foul. Grey area for sure.
not really a gray area,. definitely 2 fouls occur: a tech for hanging on the rim to gain an advantage, and a personal for the contact to the shooter.
tricky part is determining whether or not the tech occured before, during, or after the act of shooting. if before or during the act, then UT has four consecutive FT's and the ball. if after, then they'll just shoot the 2 technical shots and get possession.
personal fouls can occur during a deadball, if it ruled intentional or flagrant.
@mrblackness3131 you cant call a T and after that a regular foul. If you want to call both, it´s a T for hanging on the rim and an unsportsmanlike for the hard impact.
and yes he blocked the shot, but only so there was no chance of a 3 point play. if you play ball you know that even after you foul you make sure that no shot gets up because then your foul was pointless.
yeah the dude was just making sure he didn't get undercut and get injured. no tech for the hanging on the rim, but there was contact after he let go, so personal foul there
Holy shit it's obvious you don't know a thing about basketball rules; go look at a rulebook before you go makin a dumbass comment like that....he grabbed and held on to the rim to block the shot, which is an attempt to gain an unfair advantage....you sound so sure in ur comment when...sadly you're dead wrong...sorry
alright dude he was about to get undercut as soon as he went up. i would have done the same thing to keep myself from getting hurt. you clearly don't play basketball to know what can happen when you come down on a guy like that. career ending injuries happen that way. he didn't grab onto the rim to block the shot, he grabbed onto the rim to aid in not coming down on the guy, not to block the shot. he thought he was gonna go up with him but the guy pump faked. he was about to flip over him.
Alright brotha,,,here's the deal..I'm a HUGE ball fan, played it all my life, and am a college basketball official. If you'll look more on the comments there are a few other officials that have commented on the play and agree with me as well. Ur right.....it IS legal to prevent an injury..you have to picture what would have happened if he didn't grab the rim...he would have kept going in the direction he was goin and there would have been NO injury. The only time someone was underneath was when
he had swung around and blocked the shot. There are 2 parts-he hung on the rim to prevent an injury (I disagree) but when he blocks the shot THAT is where the technical should have been called. Regardless of the reason for hanging on the rim as a defender you CANNOT block a shot while ur hanging on the rim! Under no cirmumstance is that a legal play. Had he not blocked/committed the foul, then maybe you could let it slide. The simple fact is that the refs need to grow ball and call these plays.
Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He hung on the rim and gained an unfair advantage to block the shot....not legal son...he might have been able to get away with it if he hadn't tried to block the shot and commit the foul, but once he did try it's obvious he was doing more than just preventing an injury
It's actually called a power dribble and technically it is a double dribble because by rule you cannot dribble the ball with both hands at the same time, but in the post it has been allowed for years
No, it's a legal move. Double dribble is defined as starting your dribble, then stoping, and then starting again. And stopping your is defined in several different ways. So I suppose a power dribble is not double dribble because of a technicallity. But it is legal by the rule book.
So it would be OK for a guard to bring the ball upcourt driblling the ball with both hands? So if your answer is no then why can a post player do it? The college rule I found online is vague but I can tell you in the NFHS rule book dribbling with 2 hands is a violation.
A double dribble is when you dribble, grab the ball with two hands, then dribble again, so technically its not a double dribble cause he dribbled and then stopped his dribble by holding it with two hands but never dribbled again. your example would be a double dribble cause he stopped his dribble then started again. Note the fact that when you use a power dribble your only allowed one dribble.
It would have been goal tending because it wasn't an offensive player who going for the ball. Plus there was no chance of the shot going in so there's no way it was going to be made.
For the Technical foul if you're hanging on the rim and there's no one below you then it's a technical. There was someone below the player at the time that made it a more dangerous situation if he hadn't hung on the rim. So there was no need for a technical foul.
to the goaltending comment. goaltending is hitting the ball while in its downward flight it should have been basket interference if anything. As with anyhing in baskteball you are looking for an advantage or disadavantage created for either the offense or defense by an action. The point of this post though is the basket interference.
I am a referee and him using the rim to stay in the air and possibly blocking the shot is a technical foul. He is on defense, there is no reason for him to grab the rim
thats wrong but so fuckin smart lol unsportsmanlike i dont think so he lost his head its like when u get beat while stickin D and da guy jets 4 da rim u grab his jersey it happens u apologize and keep it movin (some ppl do it all the time it is a diff
Any illegal contact that occurred after that call (eg: when he fell down) could correctly be called a second technical foul (though this would be quite ticky-tacky)
technical foul for hanging on the rim. Two shots and the ball to offensive team.
demeimustang007 3 weeks ago
clean block
Killerniggo6 1 month ago
Style Points?
Frazz2513 1 month ago
unsportsmanlike
avvelazquez74 1 month ago
Technical I personally wouldnt call unsportsmanlike the ring grab he can clearly be T'd for however the attempt to block the shot seemed to be just that, going for the ball no mallicious intent to harm the player thats pretty clear in the second replay.
collossuss10 1 month ago
Techniqal foul,he grab the rim 1st b 4 da excidently kick happend since both happend nearly in a seconds i would eject da player 4 dat lol~
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jazon202 3 months ago 4
dude looked like he' s even gonna complain. you held to the rim boy, goddamn stupid. if you can do that and not called a foul, then just hang in there all game long and the other team will surely not score (unless of course goal tending, which is exactly what you did!).
meldeebueno 3 months ago
The Dude -Grabs rim swings-
Monkey Coach-I have tought him well-
PoptartFail 6 months ago 13
im pretty sure a technical foul should have been called, and have the teams best FT shooter take it...then a seperate shooting foul where the shooter gets 2 shots from the charity stripe like normal
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awesome block,you can't cry about that
dandude23 6 months ago
legit block lmao! turbo block nba street style
masterterry2 6 months ago
Basketball should be only a girls sport!
dabig61 6 months ago
@dabig61 Nty.
PoptartFail 6 months ago
good savvy
zonaboy5115 7 months ago
ACTUALLY....this should be 3 calls!!!:
FOUL on the shot, so he gets an AND1.
TECHNICAL for hanging on the rim
GOALTENDING for interfering with the rim during a shot
Wow, that couldve been a 4 point play on a 2 point shot.
madhazzer 8 months ago 3
@madhazzer NO GOALTENDING...
aat25oke 8 months ago
he didn't really hang so it's an automatic 3 point play for goal tending and the foul. I mean if he had the ball would you honestly say he hung on the rim?
dakingman007 9 months ago
@dakingman007 he definetly hung onto the rim
jamaal1911 9 months ago
They should let the technical go because it's a proud moment that a white guy got up on the rim.
Skelator123 9 months ago
On the slow motion, it seems that the white player hangs on to the ring to prevent him from smashing into the back of the yellow player. That's fine. Then he goes and fouls anyway by swinging a left arm at the yellow player.
mattk000 9 months ago
@ggr1mr3ap3r dude relax.....1....im an official for the ncaa and observer of officials.....we can't decide whats going through the players mind....in that instance he could have felt someone was underneath him.....that is why we are only to call a t on that if there is no player ANYWHERE near and i mean ANYWHERE near the play....once again good no tech call
yankeeguy0242 11 months ago
@yankeeguy0242 How could he "feel" there was anyone underneath him when he jumps face first and sees there is noone there
ggr1mr3ap3r 11 months ago
@ggr1mr3ap3r I am look directly at number 34 in the lower key he was shooting a layup....if you don't understand what i mean by anywhere near the play let me help you....if there is anyone within what would be the NBA restricted area we are gonna let it go.....if you look at the play also he lets ago as soon as he realizes he is clear.......the hanging on the rim rule was designed for a taunting act or a show up act or one in which the player is gaining an advantage....none of these happened
yankeeguy0242 11 months ago
you can claim he grabbed the rim to protect himself from coming down on the offensive player....good no t call.....if there is any player within reasonable distance of the person grabbing the rim you can't t him for that
yankeeguy0242 11 months ago
your suposed to call epic pwn
feji23 1 year ago
Defensive player grabs the rim to get an advantage that´s a T, but he also commits a hard foul U, he sould be disqualified. Double intention on violations.
gyrowave 1 year ago
Def. a Technical foul for hanging on the rim as a defender, that's actually a no-brainer
paytontheglove31 1 year ago
What a stupid defense by this guy...
Nhilzer 1 year ago
Cain is doing great with the Braunschweig Phantoms now!
Buzzer1813 1 year ago 2
lol COMBO-BLOCK!!
TheBlackJacksItalia 1 year ago 8
Thts new.
corndog984 1 year ago
@Brian211978 who u tlkin bout nigga
TheEman67 1 year ago
no shit thats a techinical he was hanigng on the rim
XblisterXexistX 1 year ago
just T because contact was not so strong to be unsportmenlike or D... It would be my decision
milangrfbg09 1 year ago
LOLOL. That was funneh. :P
UltimateFpsG0d 1 year ago
Goaltending and 1 would've been the correct call.
HooliganMovement 1 year ago 2
LOL since when was UVA ranked 4 LMAO
go duke
Alexandahh 1 year ago
the said there was not a player underneath him, what about the dude with the ball, yes he swings past but if he didn't grab I am fairly sure that jump would have splatted him.
senluijr 1 year ago
@senluijr What are you talking about? He was already way past the guy, and only came close because of the swing!!
eshnajizzle 1 year ago
It's a goaltending, next time technical :D
myggaren 1 year ago
if only that was legal
wildabeest4 1 year ago
ouch thats a three point play but the extra point is the tech
proskateboarder1222 1 year ago
you call technical unsportsmanlike and a foul
gemstar77 1 year ago
Legit play....no foul
turk629 1 year ago
LOL This Iz Awesome!
LebronEatsKobeOs 1 year ago
You get a technical for that? Man basketball is f'd, I thought it was a pretty sweet play LoL
devrobbiz 1 year ago
that should of been a tech,personal,foul, and flagrant.
Urbz1988 1 year ago
that was fun to watch
Hinasil 1 year ago
basket interference, not goaltending
smileybone3010 1 year ago
thats a fair call
mulletslayer23 1 year ago
this is basket interferance. a goal tend is when the ball is over the rim.
ram98872 1 year ago
Isn't that just a goal tend?
ephesus 1 year ago
I think a tech being called on hanging on the rim is bullshit!
rOHusted 1 year ago
@rOHusted how dude? if not i could just hang on the rim all day and bloock the shit out of everyone. Its not saying its excessive and deserves a tech its saying u are not allowed to do that to gain an advantage, especially when your not even on offense.
janitormopmop 1 year ago
what was the announcer watchin your right he was hanging on the rim he didnt see the play????
casinohustler 1 year ago
spiderman foul to the face
LOPpo90 1 year ago
ITs Goal Tending
Rickrolled2143 1 year ago
dunno.
oct579 1 year ago
even if he didnt get pushed, he still lost the ball so
YaCantJudgeMe 1 year ago
i reckon it should just be a technical for holding onto the ring. but as dikurt has said, if the technical came as the player was shooting he should get 4 shots and possession. in this case i reckon 2 shots and possession should be the call.
fattymattyd4 2 years ago
just give both fouls... cant allow free wacks to the head after a play
13374444444444444444 2 years ago
You cannot call a normal foul after a technical..if you do so its an unsportsmanlike because the ball is dead
DonBambino 2 years ago 2
but there was normal foul first, then technical. he had been hit before he touched the rim (i saw just net... whatever, refs mistake)
misiekpl1 2 years ago
he thought he had the ball...
lazer46 2 years ago
that was pretty cool
viennava1980 2 years ago
That's called the Orangutan monkey block, haha
FBKWarrior25 2 years ago 147
@FBKWarrior25 awsome :D:D
studihudgard 1 year ago
@FBKWarrior25 donkey kong !!
psp785 1 year ago
i thought he dunked the ball
madcrazy6659 2 years ago
that's a tech and a foul
tech for hanging onto the ring
and foul for, well you got eyes
mrblackness3131 2 years ago 83
But if you call the tech, isn't the ball now dead and any contact not part of the game. You can't call him for a foul after the tech. Not saying I think your wrong, I have eyes and it's clearly a foul. Grey area for sure.
teagan684 2 years ago 2
not really a gray area,. definitely 2 fouls occur: a tech for hanging on the rim to gain an advantage, and a personal for the contact to the shooter.
tricky part is determining whether or not the tech occured before, during, or after the act of shooting. if before or during the act, then UT has four consecutive FT's and the ball. if after, then they'll just shoot the 2 technical shots and get possession.
personal fouls can occur during a deadball, if it ruled intentional or flagrant.
dikurt2 2 years ago 3
Gray* wtf, are you british ?
DavidLovesOregonSt 2 years ago
British ?
What would you have called ?
teagan684 2 years ago
grey
Meadster1987 1 year ago
@mrblackness3131
Firt the technical => dead ball => second foul would be ignored as long as it's not unsportsmenlike/technical
Silentium92 1 year ago
@mrblackness3131 Rim, not ring.
WalsheyfromCAGT 6 months ago
@WalsheyfromCAGT does it really matter? you know what i mean and so does everybody else.
mrblackness3131 6 months ago
@mrblackness3131 I only commented that to see who would hate on it! Mission accomplished.
WalsheyfromCAGT 6 months ago
@WalsheyfromCAGT ok then
mrblackness3131 6 months ago
@mrblackness3131 you cant call a T and after that a regular foul. If you want to call both, it´s a T for hanging on the rim and an unsportsmanlike for the hard impact.
HitAltF4Please 5 months ago
how ever, it still was a foul
CoolAssNinjas 2 years ago
that was cool! haha
SIHIAIDIY 2 years ago
Technical
carnalhiphop 2 years ago
tht was still cool
pblife65 2 years ago
and yes he blocked the shot, but only so there was no chance of a 3 point play. if you play ball you know that even after you foul you make sure that no shot gets up because then your foul was pointless.
Hagarheadou812 2 years ago 2
reminds me of a monkey in a tree haha.
acnhs09 2 years ago
nice, camping on the rim i like
DontTakeCrack 2 years ago
clever
GatManJones 2 years ago
goaltending and foul
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Themoneymakers562 2 years ago
yeah the dude was just making sure he didn't get undercut and get injured. no tech for the hanging on the rim, but there was contact after he let go, so personal foul there
Hagarheadou812 2 years ago
Holy shit it's obvious you don't know a thing about basketball rules; go look at a rulebook before you go makin a dumbass comment like that....he grabbed and held on to the rim to block the shot, which is an attempt to gain an unfair advantage....you sound so sure in ur comment when...sadly you're dead wrong...sorry
chanmancut 2 years ago
alright dude he was about to get undercut as soon as he went up. i would have done the same thing to keep myself from getting hurt. you clearly don't play basketball to know what can happen when you come down on a guy like that. career ending injuries happen that way. he didn't grab onto the rim to block the shot, he grabbed onto the rim to aid in not coming down on the guy, not to block the shot. he thought he was gonna go up with him but the guy pump faked. he was about to flip over him.
Hagarheadou812 2 years ago
Alright brotha,,,here's the deal..I'm a HUGE ball fan, played it all my life, and am a college basketball official. If you'll look more on the comments there are a few other officials that have commented on the play and agree with me as well. Ur right.....it IS legal to prevent an injury..you have to picture what would have happened if he didn't grab the rim...he would have kept going in the direction he was goin and there would have been NO injury. The only time someone was underneath was when
chanmancut 2 years ago 2
he had swung around and blocked the shot. There are 2 parts-he hung on the rim to prevent an injury (I disagree) but when he blocks the shot THAT is where the technical should have been called. Regardless of the reason for hanging on the rim as a defender you CANNOT block a shot while ur hanging on the rim! Under no cirmumstance is that a legal play. Had he not blocked/committed the foul, then maybe you could let it slide. The simple fact is that the refs need to grow ball and call these plays.
chanmancut 2 years ago 3
I agree completely.
rage4lifebj 2 years ago
Technical foul for hanging on the basket and unsportsmanlike foul for the foul.
Sasch81 2 years ago 2
how can u get an unsportsmanlike foul? thats a personal foul.
iDEV0N 2 years ago
how did this get a thumbs down? there's no such thing as an unsportsmanlike foul in BBall, it's a personal, a technical, or a flagrant, that's it
heythisisbert 2 years ago
Ur....sort of right...it would be a technical foul for any kind of unsportsmanlike conduct or act
chanmancut 2 years ago 2
Technical for hanging on the rim...I'm not sure about unsporting???
chanmancut 2 years ago 2
he shouldn't have hung in the first place.
0blueice0 2 years ago
you can hang on the rim in a situation like that so you don't cause injury to yourself as well as the player under the basket.
btw8775 2 years ago 3
that's right but he blocks the shooter for like intentional way,
elvisniperx 2 years ago
no you cant thats only if you have the ball and are going for a dunk, he was the defender so he was not allowed to grab onto the rim
Fu50popo 2 years ago
he hung on for a second to prevent an injury to the offensive player so no technical and no unsportsmanlike foul because it wasn't heavy
1051842 3 years ago
Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He hung on the rim and gained an unfair advantage to block the shot....not legal son...he might have been able to get away with it if he hadn't tried to block the shot and commit the foul, but once he did try it's obvious he was doing more than just preventing an injury
chanmancut 2 years ago 3
looked like a double dribble to me
bozzelbagger 3 years ago
its called a pound dribble you get away with it most of the time
bluedevildog1 3 years ago
You get away with it most of the time because its not a double dribble or any other violation. Totally legal move.
ace658 3 years ago
nahh you can do it once in the post but you can't do it twice
Milkman23 3 years ago
how the hell do you get a double dribble from that
Finny8020 2 years ago
It's actually called a power dribble and technically it is a double dribble because by rule you cannot dribble the ball with both hands at the same time, but in the post it has been allowed for years
chitownref 2 years ago
No, it's a legal move. Double dribble is defined as starting your dribble, then stoping, and then starting again. And stopping your is defined in several different ways. So I suppose a power dribble is not double dribble because of a technicallity. But it is legal by the rule book.
Kartkid024 2 years ago 2
So it would be OK for a guard to bring the ball upcourt driblling the ball with both hands? So if your answer is no then why can a post player do it? The college rule I found online is vague but I can tell you in the NFHS rule book dribbling with 2 hands is a violation.
chitownref 2 years ago
A double dribble is when you dribble, grab the ball with two hands, then dribble again, so technically its not a double dribble cause he dribbled and then stopped his dribble by holding it with two hands but never dribbled again. your example would be a double dribble cause he stopped his dribble then started again. Note the fact that when you use a power dribble your only allowed one dribble.
Kartkid024 2 years ago
" you are right you are right.. HE WAS HANGING ! ".. lol
bajrekdino 3 years ago 4
It would have been goal tending because it wasn't an offensive player who going for the ball. Plus there was no chance of the shot going in so there's no way it was going to be made.
For the Technical foul if you're hanging on the rim and there's no one below you then it's a technical. There was someone below the player at the time that made it a more dangerous situation if he hadn't hung on the rim. So there was no need for a technical foul.
Deckloaded 3 years ago
to the goaltending comment. goaltending is hitting the ball while in its downward flight it should have been basket interference if anything. As with anyhing in baskteball you are looking for an advantage or disadavantage created for either the offense or defense by an action. The point of this post though is the basket interference.
cmoney1229 3 years ago
haha white people must hold the rim to be in the air for 1 second but james and kobe can jump easy for 2 seconds HAHAHA
vika01 3 years ago
um, vika....its physically impossible to be in the air for a second..nice try though.
glfproksu0 3 years ago
no its not impossible look when robinson dunked over spudd
vika01 3 years ago
try watching sport science...Michael Jordan .9 seconds. almost but not
glfproksu0 3 years ago
I think it was like .94 to add onto your comment.
Willemims 3 years ago
you'd need a 16 foot vertical to hand in the air for 2 seconds. It's that damn acceleration due to gravity. Sorry to hit you with knowledge like that
escapedlunatic 3 years ago
maybe he watched kobe and james dunk in slow motion. Like on a replay or something.
Kartkid024 2 years ago
I am a referee and him using the rim to stay in the air and possibly blocking the shot is a technical foul. He is on defense, there is no reason for him to grab the rim
wumpire1807 3 years ago 4
thats wrong but so fuckin smart lol unsportsmanlike i dont think so he lost his head its like when u get beat while stickin D and da guy jets 4 da rim u grab his jersey it happens u apologize and keep it movin (some ppl do it all the time it is a diff
GottiDaChef 3 years ago
I know there was technical foul after he touched the rim, but is there a specific rule saying you can't hang on the rim?
TheFeastoftheBigEast 3 years ago
yes
bae4hannah17 3 years ago
yes there is
utdominatesuofm 3 years ago
I'm no referee, but I would have called it goal tending for shaking the rim
begining21 3 years ago 2
Thats all ball ha
sblwarrior44 3 years ago
very funny but i agree with CAScreaminDude
101McGrady101 3 years ago
Technical foul for grabbing the rim.
Any illegal contact that occurred after that call (eg: when he fell down) could correctly be called a second technical foul (though this would be quite ticky-tacky)
CAScreaminDude 4 years ago 3
Agreed, but you got to admit. That does take some corrdnation.
Kartkid024 2 years ago 2