Feds Lone Giffords Gunman, Eyewitness Accounts Someone Else Working With The Shooter

[barbelyea]

Not in anyway defending any actions whatsoever, just a note to say....he is the correct age for onset schizophrenia....and if he had an episode nothing he did would make any sense. just saying it is a possibility, it is a common issue in men this age group with out explaination.....

[NeonGenesisPlatinum]

Jarred Lee mate, cmon, you're meant to be a reporter!

Jarred G i think you're thinking of Ali G, he's an English comedian and you're an American one!

[silkcat51]

This guy was part of MK-Ultra & on psychiatric meds.

It was a botched psy-op & it will come back to haunt them forever.

[CIassitup10]

666 IS COIN

666 IN THE HAND RIGHT

[IranContraScumDid911]

@CIassitup10 Upload 9/11 videos to the channel.

[Tzimnewman3]

@CIassitup10 Nice job in changing the "L" for a "i" in your account name. Your true account name contains no "L". Anyone can check this out by typing "ciassitup10" after youtube and seeing that it links to your account.

Only sheep pretend to be people they are not!!

[Truthpathfinder]

News is Giffords was shot from behind, bullet going back to front between skull and brain. Clean shot, no mess. Really? Shooter had semi-auto and was close up. Witness next to Giffords stated definitely that the guy came up directly in front of her and shot. He did not do the head shot. Was he doing blanks? Others shooting for real? Won't get the truth, but more oppressive laws to come from this.

[OzzyPatriot]

watch?v=E8Wr6AeZTCE

This is probably the sort of shit they were playing in his head during 'the white fog' period of the mind breaking phase of his transition into an Alphabet spook killer puppet.

[kujo317]

sounds like this kid just watched the movie "They Live" before going on his killing spree...... Just send him to Texas, those people know what to do with his kind

[Tzimnewman3]

Congresswoman's youtube account

/user/giffords2 - check out who she is subscribed to

[StevenM818]

@Tzimnewman3

Nice catch. I posted a comment on their most recent upload asking why they were subbed to classitup10. Very odd, since they're only subbed to 2 people since the channel was created. And there's nothing in the recent activity to show (whoever runs the channel) that they subbed to classitup10 after it was known whose channel that allegedly was (JLL). I subbed giffords2 and it popped right up in my recent activity.

[73mandala]

Whats his you tube channel called?

[lkraabel]

@73mandala youtube.com/user/Starhitshnaz and youtube.com/user/Classitup10

[jakesecrest]

What he did was, try to start a political revolution. He hates government, so he shot someone involved with it. It's not about the political dramas for him, it's about how the government is a scheme itself and he is trying to show the hypocrisies and contradictions it holds. He is not normal, he was somewhat rational in his thinking, but his mind made some irrational decisions. His confusion led him to obsessiveness..

[Tzimnewman3]

@jakesecrest Good but that leaves out the second suspect.

[threepercenter03]

I like how the news anchor has to throw in The Patriot Movement as being a teacher of the ideals of this nut... subliminal message?

[kramcas2]

When I first googled his named and found his youtube pages none of the videos had more than 200 views, not the 300 youtube is famous for getting stuck at.

[OzzyPatriot]

I like the way the majority of folk would read his name in text and assume it's pronounced 'Loner', and then you hear it spoken and it's 'Loftner', but your brain has already made it's first very strong impression.

This is some sort of psy-op imo. That yt channel is strange. I wouldn't be surprised if his handlers set that up in his name.

[Tzimnewman3]

@OzzyPatriot The congresswoman is subscribed to his account and she is only subscribed to two people the other being a congressman Ike.

[OzzyPatriot]

@Tzimnewman3 Interesting info. Can you prove it, please?

[IranContraScumDid911]

@OzzyPatriot See NOLINKNEWS, he has a video on it.

[OzzyPatriot]

@IranContraScumDid911 Thanks just did. WTF? This is beyond strange. I can't logically imagine how that's possible.

Ok, here goes my most logical attempt: He's supposed to have contacted her in the past. Did he send link to his 'amazing' yt page and being totally fkn impressed with what a balanced individual he comes across as, decided to subscribe to his channel?

Seriously. This lame duck's the best I can think up. Anyone else wanna try one for me?

[Tzimnewman3]

@OzzyPatriot "Interesting info. Can you prove it, please?"

Its easy to prove.

After the youtube address type: /giffords2

Then check who she is subscribed to. There are only two people so it won't be hard to find Jared Lee's link which is the first one. The second is Congressmen Ike Skelton.

[CIassitup10]

@Tzimnewman3 BE CAREFUL SHEEP...

[Tzimnewman3]

@CIassitup10 "BE CAREFUL SHEEP..."

LOL only a sheep pretends to be someone they are not. Whats the matter? Have you got no life of your own. P.S. its nice to see you link this fake account with your real account so now I know what you look like. I suggest you should be carefull when going around with your fake threats. The response you get may not be so fake!!

[IWOP1]

@Tzimnewman3 --Check out the Mexican Neo Nazi's on PIMIENTO666's Channel. I do not believe there is anything behind the shooting other than a psycho losin' it. But the new Loughner page was set up as a propoganda tool. The talking heads have already been spewing their drivel out about how there is so much hate speech and racial anger on the internet. They are going to use the shooting to back the implimentation of censorship on the internet..watch.

[OzzyPatriot]

@Tzimnewman3 Thanks. I did manage to find out b4 your post. Weird as all fuck! With all do respect. If she lives, she better be able to explain this 'subbed2gate' situation. Because I'm racking my brain and I can't come up with a logical or plausible explanation of how or why this congresswoman would sub to this asshat's channel. It would be diametrically opposed to what her own channel says about 'serious policy debate' etc.

[IWOP1]

@OzzyPatriot --The MSM hasn't even brought it up, that means they are going to bury it.

[borderraven]

Although he committed an act of anarchy, I can't peg him to Anarchy, TEA Party, Minutemen, or anything political. At age 22, he is somewhat innocent and naive, lacking maturity.

[BroBroDude]

myspace and facebook are very useful to the feds. they WANT people to be using them

youtube and sites like it are sources of vital information useful to the people at the expense of the feds (SEE THIS VERY CHANNEL!)

they WANT this patsy associated with youtube, "crazy crazy crazies on youtube!!!!!" will be the theme

they planted ideas about currency, the constitution conspiracy etc. the implication is thats what CRAZY KILLERS might do

perfect platform for coming after the net

[dragnet53]

Man, I wonder what it is going to be like when 2012 gets closer? It is going to be like this incident but worse. I don't know if this event was staged or not, but I wouldn't put it past them.

[sgentlemanjack112]

2:25 BINGO!

[dtmbcorp]

I smell shit

[TheChildrenOfSatan]

This was an Israeli Mossad MK-ULTRA staged event. Omaha Mall Shooting and Colobine Shooting were also Israeli Mossad MK-ULTRA staged operations. See my comments on this on youtube user July4Patriots site comments. The recent assassination of a HIGH RANKING Airforce Official in New Jersey and all the ODD Bird & Fish mass kills are RELATED. The Children of Satan MUST BE CAST OUT OF AMERICA! See our site description and our play lists! Learn the TRUTH Google Franklin Scandal Omaha Nebraska MK-ULTRA

[timjthru]

and it happened the day before 1/9/11

[jillanthrophy]

@timjthru another interesting point

[VexZeez]

SPLC is the so-called patriot movement "expert" being cited here. For some reason MSNBC wanted to hide SPLC under the word "experts".

[jillanthrophy]

I find it very odd the 9 year old child shot, was born 9/11, so I hear!

[cldump]

the judge had it coming i call it Carma. this judge was the fuck that gave a bunch of illegal aliens an Americans farm after the American held them for the cops.

[OmarThePug]

Nice shot man!

[TheyDidThis]

What is striking me as the oddest is the fact they have not shut his page down yet. They keep pointing people to these videos. Videos that seem suspect in nature. I got a headache after just a couple of them. Could it be possible that the videos can program some how? Anyone else see this as suspect? These would be evidence at the least in the case against him but it has been allowed to be disseminated amongst the populous.

[IranContraScumDid911]

@TheyDidThis His videos are all copywrited to that music. There is something very wierd about the videos and the whole show.

[TheyDidThis]

@IranContraScumDid911 I would suggest to all concerned not to watch all the videos as caution. You are correct they are copyrighted to the music and that alone is highly suspicious. Thanks

[IWOP1]

@IranContraScumDid911 --So check this out..I went into PIMIENTO666 channel and left a comment about 10 minutes ago, he has his shit set for " Pending Approval". 5 minutes later screen name ERCHUANO who had commented on that channel commented on mine. They must be butt buddies.

[IranContraScumDid911]

@IWOP1 Interlopers. Youtube is being used to add confusion and story to the judges assasination.

[IWOP1]

@IranContraScumDid911 --The judge wasn't even suppose to be there bro..He stopped by there after MASS just to check it out. I read everything about this guy, the only one that would have had a motive to kill him is the farmer that was sued for $32 million where he was the judge presiding over the case. This is turning into another Magic bullet theory case or shooter on the grassy knoll case. It's a diversion alright but not because of what everyone thinks.

[IranContraScumDid911]

@IWOP1 I can tell you what I do know for a fact. The judge is dead. There was not 30 bullet casings marked out at the crime scene. There was not 10 blood puddles. You cannot shoot 20 people some several times, with 6 killshots unloading your clip as fast as you can in 20 seconds with a Glock. There are cameras in safeway directed at the scene. The media was there before and during the event, 40+ cell phone cameras present. His social accounts deleted so they could script a persona.

[IWOP1]

@IranContraScumDid911 --What exactly do you think happened then? Do you think the kid is a scape goat like Lee Harvey Oswald? What if there were two shooters that didn't even know the other was going to be there? They are keeping too much from us to come to any logical conclusion, all we are doing is speculating. The one thing we do know is that she knew psychoboy personally, so he had to have a motive, and being anti government isn;t a motive and you know that as well as I.

[IranContraScumDid911]

@IWOP1 I agree, I do not have a theory to solve the case, there is way too much we do not know. I have a few ideas, but I am going to sit on them a while. It is all scripted "patriots" "potheads" "wierdos" "guns" "Youtube" and finally "security". I know who scripts those stories. The congresswoman had a "strange package" at her office the same day as the shooting, the day after previous AZ gov Janet Napolitano sent one to herself. John McCain is from AZ, Sarah Palin is all over it. It smells bad

[IWOP1]

@IranContraScumDid911 --I don't get your last point..sry. All I know is, people on these threads (especially liberals) seem to think that it is way off base saying she had an affair with him. The only reason why they are pissed when I say that is because they want this so bad to be politically motivated so they can blame Republicans. They are making this a political issue and I don't believe it is or the Liberal MSM would be all over it and they are not.

[IranContraScumDid911]

@IWOP1 I do not discount what you say about the affair. But there is all a strange media spin to it. It is going to have a political agenda at the end of the day. The news was already attacking guns, patriots, freedom of speech, and the constitution over this in the first 24 hours. I do not trust MSM, and your right we do not get the truth. It is sad that you and I have to discuss what happened, because we are not filled in completely. The lies are obvious, there is more to it

[IWOP1]

@IranContraScumDid911 --I totally agree friend.

[ultrapirtle]

@TheyDidThis They are written in a style typical of a decompensating schizophrenic.

[OzzyPatriot]

@TheyDidThis Indeed. I had the impression: If I had to watch/listen to this SHIT for even a few hours I'd be begging my tormentors like: Ok, who do I have to kill to make it STOP!

[IranContraScumDid911]

@OzzyPatriot LOL. Hahahahaha. ANYTHING they want, just make it stop, PLEASE!!!!!!

[KripDrip]

wheres his page???

[TheyDidThis]

@KripDrip classitup10

[NeutralExistence]

@TheyDidThis

You want my honest opinion?

I have watched, researched several pieces on human mind control. From MK Ultra up to more modern day forms. I have read 70% (so far) of the CIA manual on psychological operations, and understand it quite well. From the Robert Kennedy assassin, to this poor kid.

It honestly seems to be that he was the subject of brain control, and that his you tube well.. I have watched every single one all of it, and have multiple theory's.

[NeutralExistence]

@TheyDidThis

There could be the idea of sleeper cells, and a signal in the video to "activate" these sleepers. It seems rather unlikely, but the way this "person" writes, and displays the data on his You Tube channel is clearly not meant to teach people anything. It is not an insane person writing either in my opinion, while he acts like a schizophrenic all the views do not contrast, he remains with a reason, and elaborates on his number often.

Altogether its very hard to watch.

[NeutralExistence]

@TheyDidThis

This could also be a simple hoax, which was my first guess until I noted the strange "goal" of his whole videos, or the summery of each. The fact that he puts his full name on his page first raised suspicion with me immediately, and the way the "evidence" was represented. It just creates a "strange feeling" if anyone else can relate, and makes for a picture that is not very Jared Lee Loughner at all. At least not the media "before" picture that was created of him.

[TheyDidThis]

@NeutralExistence Thank You for your honest opinion. I value it greatly. I do know the govt is good at getting the most from each attacked they cause. I cannot get away from the idea this programs or wakens sleepers as you suggest. In Florida they found a piano on a sand bar that 2 kids claim to have done. Even this to me seems as a sleeper wake up. Things are getting crazy though.

[NeutralExistence]

@TheyDidThis

Its all rather disturbing. Also brought up some feelings I have rarely felt before, which was why I was so taken aback. I expected to just find some crazy ramblings, but instead I found a message with a strange feeling to it. The only time I have felt similar to this is listening to the tapes of a real exorcism that was done centuries ago, one of the events that gave the maker the idea for the movie. The way this lady talked when she was possessed gives me the same feeling.

[Rush6477]

@NeutralExistence one plus eight equals nine (9) 911alleged ages of alleged victims 333 times 2, 666

no shattered glass/no puddles of blood/no puddles of disinfectant to clean up the puddles of blood/no witnesses describing SuCIA Hileman predator neighbor and/no pulitzer prize winning picture or videoI watched this charade from the second it hit the air. They duped me on 911 and then I learned how to turn on a computer. I won't get fooled again.This was a Freemason picnic.

[NeutralExistence]

@TheyDidThis

Overall, I wish to never watch those videos again. Something about them just tells me to keep well away. I would seriously advise You Tube to remove the channel. The fact that what should be evidence to an investigation is being freely distributed on the net makes me very suspicious about whom created this page.

I would like to see if many other people felt strange when watching his videos, maybe get an analysis of what doctors think of his mental condition as per the videos.

[chromelung66]

Whoa, I commented too soon. So this guy somehow twisted logic on it's head so bad as to blame this on the "patriot movement"? Give ME A FREAKIN BREAK! Total 100% psy-op. They always use the 3 names on patsies. Theres so many giveaways on this. Check into the judge who died too. Something there IMO.

[chromelung66]

Just like the Underwear bomber that Chertoff and his radiation x-ray machines that make you sterile and give you cancer. That dude not only had a spook get him on the plane in front of witnesses who said so on media for weeks, but there were also 2 guys ready to film and acting totally calm and cool while all the rest of the plane was freaking and tackling the guy. Very strange, These are staged events, Scary that we have such psycho;s in govt just to enslave us all.

[downwindspiral]

if there were another person

that would be his handler/psychiatrist/hypnotist­.

i watched his vids

and his starhitshnaz vid.

definitely warped.

manchurian patsy?

strange indeed.

[BadSwineDOTcom]

@downwindspiral

He is either a brainwashed patsy or was putting up the illusion he was, I find it very odd how he put up his full name.

Assassins are always called by their full name.