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  • I don't think it's worth it to even try to explain this stuff to creationists.

  • Isn't that great? According to you, the whole world then has a mental disease and the ones who don't believe in a religious system or God are the only sane people in the world. How convenient...

  • Being extemporaneous in your ripostes give the image of a person who thought through his or her beliefs.

    Religion gave explanations and order to a barbaric people. Having a paternal element is bolstered by creation, order, guidance and love (and disappointment). As science gave explanations to what mystified people, the value of the supernatural came into question. What we still have is the need to be comforted, especially in the one aspect of life which remains poorly understood, death.

  • @psalmist This a good interpretation of religious belief. It is a good bromide that part of the human psyche that yearns for answers and security. It may not have a wit of evidence behind it, but it's an effective way to assuage fear and provide direction.

    I must take issue with your first sentence (unless you mean it as sarcasm). An extemporaneous riposte would require less immediate thought but more forethought. It does show the ability to think on your feet, which is admirable.

  • When god becomes more abstract in time, I would defenitely worship the all powerful all knowing algebraic god. Oh wait I already do, and His name is Wolfram Alpha,

    He is the Alpha not the Omega.

    He will solve almost all your integral problems

    But, each month he demands an offering of the first integral problem you can't solve.

    You don't need to get on your knees and pray, but to sit on your ass and type. :P

  • Religious thought is definitely based on the progression of infant thinking into adulthood without the progression to reason and evidence, free of pre-conceived and unfounded notions. They are really like big children on the inside.. you say something they don't like, and they want to hit you, their emotions seem much more acute but that's just lack of control

  • @dopeasfuckk well said

  • Education is the key towards freeing the minds of those who's dogma and doctrines have clouded their version of reality. That and a whole lot of patience and tolerance from those whos eyes have had the scales fall off and see things how they really are. Atheism isn't a cult as some would say but rather the lack there of. Its principles rely on proof and substantiation rather than belief or faith. Atheists are not subhuman brutes with total disregard for moral compass they are humankind likeyou

  • There is reasonable evidence still today for people to believe in god. Always will be...

    fact 1. Life comes from life not anything else. fact 2 energy creates energy. fact 3 material comes from material. fact 4 none of this is eternal. fact 5 God is eternal. fact 6 god created material. Fact 7 god created energy. Fact 8 god created life.

  • @LoLchapter

    I don't disbelieve in the existence of a God, but what facts are there that one created energy, material, and life?

  • @LoLchapter Your facts are not facts. They are claims. BTW your "fact 1" has been proven wrong a long time ago. Check out "Miller–Urey experiment". And even if god does exist what makes you think he's the god of your religion? I mean why do you believe in the god that you believe and not some other religion's god?

  • @therussianredstar It depends what you mean by 'life'. For example is DNA alive? Is a virus alive? Is a cell alive? What qualifies as 'alive'?

  • @QuestionMorals I would claim that a cell is alive. You have to remember that the results of these experiments show that organic things come into existence from non-organic compounds, and over billions of years they get more and more complex as proven by mountains of evolutionary evidence. As far as what constitutes "life", that I would leave to a scientist to define. Check out some TED talks ted.com/talks/lang/en/martin_h­anczyc_the_line_between_life_a­nd_not_life.html

  • @therussianredstar My point was, that bacteria are cells and therefore you would consider them to be alive, viruses are much the same, they can replicate their own nucleic acid however they just lack the ability to be able to replicate on their own without a host cell. (Continued in next post)

  • @QuestionMorals I see. Thanks!  It's been nice chatting with you.

  • @QuestionMorals All viruses are, are Nucleic acid and protein. So really, what we label as 'alive' is just a bunch of chemicals which consist of atoms and therefore it is not so difficult to accept that DNA may have started out as inorganic....

  • @LoLchapter all of your 'facts' seemed correct until fact 5 - How do you know god exists in the first place?

  • @LoLchapter None of those are facts.

  • @LoLchapter fact 5 is not a fact, it is your opinion and has no evidence to back it up.fact 6,9see fact 5)fact 7 ,see fact 5 again.no evidence just opinion not a fact at all.fact 9 opinion again. fact 10 there is no evidence of god. fact 11, half your facts are not fact at all just your opinion and worse it is an opinion with no evidence to suport that opinion.

  • Love this song.

  • Atheist are so ignorant, I hear these 2 trying to educate others, yikes.

  • If all you idiotic believers REALLY believe in god, stop going to see doctors when you're sick, okay? Just pray to your magic sky-god to heal you.

  • I just clicked on this link because I thought it was funny. If "religion" is a mental illness, believe in God to be more exact, then every single human being is born with a mental illness. I guess no one here knows anything about the Vmat2 gene.

  • You got it.

    "something that is beyond our comprehension",

    unless we stop being incomplete beings that judge with intellect, with an incomplete

    tool which is thought, how can anyone know about god,

    or if it has any significant meaning in our life.

    that's why, people who don't understand, praise a deity.

    atheism doesn't mean a thing to me,

    it's only a part of the confusion, which is man.

    : ).

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  • Being an atheist, just because, is ridiculous, when you say you found you don't look anymore,

    so what have you guys found?

    and please make and insightful answer.

  • @WolfEyesatNight

    You've been speaking cryptically this entire time, why not give me a straight answer or question and stop the needless word games. If you're asking how a person begins to understand something that is beyond our comprehension, then we simply state it is beyond comprehension, but if you can not varify that it is actually there, then you are just emitting white noise.

  • @WolfEyesatNight: "so what have you guys found?"

    I'll tell you. We've found that there is no invisible telepathic sky-daddy who controls the universe. We've found that the bible is full of lies and errors. We've found that religion is a prime source of hatred, bigotry, discrimination, and every horror known to man. We've found that "god" is a delusion, nothing more.

    That's what we've found.

  • @mikefromwa lol, -How did you get to that great insight? Could I play Devil's advocate for sec.? ( no offense ) Is Technology or Science a moral tool, I know technology is not, so that leaves Science, is it? Does the Bible say there is a deity, or is the bible about revealing Your Universe, to find what is god (or what is True)? if so, did you understand it? k: ). : ).
  • @WolfEyesatNight: "Is Technology or Science a moral tool"

    It's whatever you make of it.

    "Does the Bible say there is a deity"

    Who cares what the bible says? It's a noxious book full of nonsense. Seriously, I've read comic books that were more believable than the bible.

    The fact is that there is no god, no hell, no heaven. None of that horsecrap is true. Enjoy this life, because it's the only one you're going to have.

  • @mikefromwa

    Ok so, there's only one life, how would you live it, with lies or the truth?

    If you choose truth, you have to ask yourself, what is Truth?

    if you choose Lies, you will continue to be Mike, with all your failed desires,

    ruled by pain and suffering and your false Memories.

    Or, I can show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

    Are you interested?

    "Remember all I'm offering is the Truth".

    k : ).

  • @WolfEyesatNight: "Rmember all I'm offering is the Truth"

    Thanks, but I have no need for your twisted version of the 'truth'. I'd rather enjoy my life than live with your self-delusional nonsense on a daily basis.

  • @mikefromwa

    i knew you would answer that,

    But is your name really Mike, is it, Ho many identify wth the same name?

    Are you memories real, do you act upon them in what you think is the present?

    are your memories the "experience", are they?

    Aren't you filled with failed desires which are just a false image of yourself?

    so if Your Ego is false, then Who are you?

    told you, you don't know.

    It's ok, go and live your lie.

    k: ).

  • @WolfEyesatNight: Time to up your meds, bud. Seriously.

    Go whisper into your hands and pray to your sky-daddy.

  • @mikefromwa

    lol, no pray for your wasted life, which you think you control, the offer is off.

    peace.

  • @WolfEyesatNight: "the offer is off"

    Oh heavens, I'm so distraught. lol

  • @mikefromwa

    Ok, you see I read your answers,

    there's no sky daddy, I never said there was.

    you are not ready.

    sorry.

  • @WolfEyesatNight: "you are not ready."

    Awww shucks, I was *so* hoping to bask in the light of your boundless wisdom. *cough*

  • @mikefromwa well ill tell the devil to save your spot. hes quite nice tbh. =)

  • That was a very good question and I don,t think they had an answer .

  • What's the song in the beginning? Thank you guys, keep up the good work.

  • If yuo notice all gods tend to be male,leading to male dominance over females.

  • @otherworldtrader1 There are actually numerous religions in human history that possess goddesses. In fact, the first indicator of religious belief was a representation of a mother goddess.

  • @lazerbeam134 . while it is true there was female goddesses. it';s also true that they were banned with the introduction of christianity, and later even futher with the introduction of islam. Christianity and islam both copies of judaism(christianity was a copy of Judaism while islam was designed on both leaving no doubt to me at least that muslims were a branch of the jewsih heritage.

  • @otherworldtrader1 Well, those are the Abrahamaic faiths. It started with Judaism, which actively suppressed, through genocide, the worship of Goddesses such as Ishtar (Asherah or Asterte, in the Bible). Later, the Holy Roman Empire attacked Saxon pagans, who believed in many god and goddesses. And Islam of course waged a bloody war against Arab pagans.

  • Lol religion

  • False religion is mental illness. Sin is mental illness and religions breeds sin it doesnt stop it. Only Jesus controling ur life stops sin.

  • @j919or all religions are bullshit. they're man made and were/are used to oppress people and control minds. that's all it is.

  • @chiaromontestephen WHat motive would they have to oppress and control ppl's mind?

  • @j919or please tell me that's a rhetorical question.

  • @chiaromontestephen No just answer it. Ill let u in on a secret. Im getting ready to trap u like all the other liars. You make statements that are lies and then run when questioned. Answer or admit that you cant!!

  • @j919or irony alert! i'm done wasting my time with you. go insert jesus's divine cock back in your mouth and leave me alone.

  • @chiaromontestephen Just as I expected. Like all the other evil spawn of satan, you boast in the dark but run in the light.

  • @j919or your funny. you should becomea stand-up comedian.

  • what sort of idiot dont belive in the talking snake,talking bush and the man who lived in a whale?some poeple actualy think its not true,how crazy is that?

    did you hear about the man that belives robinson cruso was real? what a nutjob.whats the chance of that happening?

  • Eienstein "an individual with delusions is classified as mentally ill, many people with the same delusion, it is called a religion.

  • @timdnwd when did he say that? I dont believe you

  • so just putting it in a better way, if you think 500 years back, they didnt have the reasoning we have now, they never had huge telescopes to see planets, they didnt land on another planet, they never had the knowlage we have now, basicly they never had science, so religion was there way of explaining things, now we have science, just ask this question on the show, if we NEVER had science the way it is now, would we still believe in religion?.

  • Religion is a cancer upon humanity. It's nothing more than formalized insanity.

  • @mikefromwa its a lot more than that - its mass consent to abuse - thats why its so serious!

  • @mikefromwa Agreed

  • @mikefromwa i like this statement

  • I agree,, mental illness!!! Christianity has no place in religion...About time ya said something right...

  • Personally, I find it very difficult to SERIOUSLY take the claims and beliefs of theists as true. I understand it from an abstract perspective, but to apply it literally to one's life seems like the ramblings of a mad person, full of contradictions, special pleading and get out clauses. Any claim made by theists is usually unravelled by them within a couple of minutes. It all seems very bizarre to me.

  • @Wonmanbanned: "I find it very difficult to SERIOUSLY take the claims and beliefs of theists as true"

    Lol, I find it IMPOSSIBLE to take anything they say as true. It's the most obvious load of baloney I've ever heard. The Harry Potter books are more believable.

  • religion is nothing more than telling people to conform to my way of thinking so that we may be of one mind and belief. religion is nothing more than brain washing from the womb to the tomb. if you really want to find the beginning of religion. read lost book of enki. over the last 67 generations(2000 years) religion has been a tool of the various leaders of civilizations to control the population. if you disagree you were generally killed. christens / muslims are the worst.

    science is truth

  • Science is not a religion, and the morons who comment like this struggle with the divided point of subject, dont try to then still associate your topic with an actual point.

  • The problem is not with manner which moderate theists practise their religion. The problem is the suspension of rational thought that leaves people vulnerable to extreme & unchallanged interpretations. Image if Fred Phelps(WBC) had a nationally televised show - there would many more than 70 members in short order and they would become "mainstream", seek political concessions to harass any they see as damned. And social licence given to faith would minimise proper opposition to their "insanity".

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  • The problem is not with manner which the manner in which moderate theists practise their religion. The problem is the suspension of rational thought that leaves vulnerable to extreme interpretations. Image if Fred Phelps(WBC) had a nationally televised show - there would many more than 70 members in short order and they would become "mainstream", seek political concessions to harass any they see as damned. And social licence given to faith would minimise proper opposition to their "insanity".

  • The Sun was probably the first 'God' to primitive humans. The more humans learn about the world and how things work in reality, the less need for Gods there is. Hence, religions will die out ...eventually.

  • @Lennon4ever1

    Well said, sir! Well said!

  • @TripleM87 Thank you.

  • @Lennon4ever1 not true, i dont think there will be any evidence of what happends after death; so people feared the sun from leaving, so they will fear what happens when you die.

  • @judikerr What is not true? I am in full agreement that many people fear death, and most of that fear originates in superstition does it not? Specifically the fear of hell, and we know there is NO evidence of that!

  • @Lennon4ever1 religion will die eventually isnt true, because we as humans can find evidence for everything that gods took the place of, when it comes to superstitions, Except when it comes to death. There isnt any real facts or evidence of what happens to your life/soul after death; so there will always be a god that Holds people in time of death, when people are mpst fearful and afraid

  • @judikerr Religion has been eroding away for the last 1000 years and atheism is on the rise, so the trend does not sway in favor of religiosity. And death is our end, and there is no evidence of a soul or an afterlife to speak of. What can happen to you after you die?? You decompose and become fertilizer -those are the cold facts, like it or not! My dead brain is not going to have anything to experience! What most people fear is suffering, and there's plenty of that while we're alive!

  • @Lennon4ever1 ahhhh very atheist and logical answer. I completely agree. I do not think everyone will though. I feel that the soul is something that people cannot fathome as being dead. This to me will be the cause of future religion. Religions will in the future have the priveledge of compensating for life after death will a heaven, since we have nothing to prove what happens to our soul. Such a thing will be contained in future debates, do you agree?

  • You also seem quite logical and rational on one hand, yet you seem to be asserting the existence of a soul as a foregone conclusion. When you say you feel that people cannot fathom the soul as being dead..I'm saying they've never even defined what a soul is or how it manifests in reality!

  • @Lennon4ever1 Yeah, that is true; i have allways seen life, or a soul, so special that it deserved special priviledges, but logic doesn't have a place for that conclusion. Even as a child i imagined myself being reborn into other animals or another human. It is just my trained eye to see any life form as very special.

  • @judikerr No, Not really so special when you consider how many 'special' lifeforms are now extinct. If this thing called a soul is beyond our observation, there is also no reason to think it exists at all, let alone - deserving of 'special priviledges'. Nobody has ever defined a 'soul' to me in a way that I can distinguish it from everything else that is not there! You might as well show me 2 cups ..one empty, and one with a 'soul' in it - and guess what? =2 empty cups

  • @judikerr Mind you, I'm not doubting your 'belief' in a soul or an afterlife, or that you value your own life and think of it as special. That's perfectly reasonable. I'm criticizing claims that there is some life-force or (soul), that is essentially 'us' outside of our physical bodies. -And I'm afraid the same goes for God

  • @judikerr Oh and BTW judikerr..Tracie Harris gave that empty cup example on one of the Atheist experience shows -I borrowed it to illustrate what I was getting at.

  • @judikerr What we don't need to do is scare each other out of our wits by inventing horrible afterlife horrors like hell! It's needless to worry about such nonsense, and I don't understand why so many people are sold on it! But they are.. The fear of hell drives most people to become religious in the first place. That -and of course the wishful thinking of an eternity with a sky-daddy who loves you! However..the belief in God is a source of comfort to the terminally ill in many cases.

  • @Lennon4ever1

    Ra.

  • @elvebrothergenju And a Ra to you!

  • religion is a mental disorder because it essentially tells people that humanity is destined to be tortured forever and needs "saving". it's complete nonsense and bullshit. reality is more stunning than delusions.

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  • @FallofDarkness55 Imagine a stadium filled with tiny programmable bots. When we choose the program lets pick the one based on scripture because its so much fun watching them knock the snot out of each other. And lets be sure the program has them calling us divine just to be sure they can't be too pissed at us, if they ever find us. We must cover our tracks because if they ever figure it out, they've got reason to be livid and well practised at being vicious. 8^)

  • it's stupid to believe that one should judge a few people and say that everyone that they judge is the same.i take all the facts both scientific and religious . also iam a christian. before you judge others and look at yourself. when you judge others you judge your self.if i said all whites are racist because of slavery 400 years would i be right or wrong? times change there for life changes. you should never put hate before love of your fellow man. people that spew hate get hated.known fact.

  • Exactly , Religion's are just a big old game of 'Chinese whispers'

  • Definition of Christianity: Mary told a lie to cover up an affair and things got totally out of hand!

    All religion is superstition and mumbo jumbo!

  • If you really believe in something that is there, it’s delusion.

    If you see something that isn’t there, it’s hallucination.

    Both are mental illnesses!

    Religion is a mental illness. Fact!

  • @cliffo1950 --Ive never read any psychologist that considered faith to be an illness; Faith is quite different from clinical delusions, which are actually syptomatic of other problems like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

  • @TheGhostFromPlanetX Some of the concepts of religion may have been developed by the mental ill like Abraham and his psychotic episode in which he nearly killed his son. The belief remains as folk lore, is enforced by group dynamics by otherwise healthy minds. Three main criteria for mental illness - likelihood of harm, the abandonment of both alignment with reality, social norms.

  • @cliffo1950 Really believing in something that is there is just logic. However not believing in something that is there would be delusional

  • @liammateer At various points in the Nazi regime Hitler made attempts to replace Orthodox Christianity with his "Positive Christianity" alternative and many Nazi soldiers had "Gott Mit Uns" ("God With Us") on their uniforms. Hitler was only trying to do what he thought was right in the name of the Christian God but belief in the Bible gave him the evil label he is known for.

  • @stockportSA NAZI goes deeper than that. It was an attempt to reinstate the old nordic Teutonic godz..i.e. thore , wotan, etc.

    Hitler was touted as being the "messiah" for this movement.

    although outwardly it was some kind of "cathil" it was definitely and documented as more of a religion than a political movement.

    creating master race with a subjugated population under them.

    religion in a nut shell.

    psychopathic/sociopathic brain damage.

  • religion is a mental illness

  • My problem with religious people, is that they have more time/respect/love/tolerance for an invisible man in the sky, than what they do for their fellow humans! It also means that they are willing to kill/injure/ignore/hate the said humans in order to please the said man the sky!

    Religion and mental illness are one and the same!

  • @stockportSA -- Could you give me an example from scripture that says God is pleased when we kill / injure / ignore / hate others? And can you prove, from any psych textbook that religion is mental illness?

  • @TheGhostFromPlanetX In Judges 21, God orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!

  • @TheGhostFromPlanetX God demands genocide in Hosea 13:16. 1 Sam 15:3 "Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."

  • @EmmittBrownBTTF1 --yeah, war is hell; but as always God did give the people a chance to repent just as told in the book of Jonah.

  • @TheGhostFromPlanetX repent= rethink. The war manly happens in the most religious countries particularly theocracies. who also generally have records of human rights abuse to shame any moral being material or otherwise. War may be justifiable, but it is never moral, particularly in the manner I have cited from the bible.

  • if u want to choice some evil atheists there is always Stalin, Mussolini, and Mao. Christians have been bad too.In the end humanity: the ironic contradiction of itself. Saying we believe in God and love(all religions say this) yet all they do is create wars and kill the innocent. Those who are atheist kill just the same except with much fear of divine punishment. In the end u can believe what u want but when u think about starting a war...u are a plague against humanity.

  • @liammateer Adolf Hitler was not an atheist. Hitler was born of a Catholic family but converted to Christianity. He even started a new sect of christianity called "Positive Christianity" . He was only trying to do what he thought was right in the name of the Christian God but belief in the Bible gave him the evil label he is known for. Hitler took a personal vendetta toward the Jewish community because the biblical stories said they were the ones who turned their back on Jesus Christ.

  • @stockportSA Actually not all of that is true; Hitler was not an atheist true enough but his religious views are still hotly disputed by historians (I THINK consensus of opinion on him is that he was a generic 'theist' but I can't be 100% sure of that). However his own writings seem to suggest that his antisemiticism was NOT based on the whole 'deicide' idea. He also planned to destroy Christianity within the Reich. Although I think it's clear Christian antisemitism helped his rise to power.

  • @barrry9 He had some issues with the Catholic Church so he sided more with the Lutheran Churches. Tho briefly at the end of ww2 many nazi generals and others fled to many Catholic and Lutheran Churches all over the world. The Catholic church never condemned the Nazis for what they did. In private they exonerated them. Scary...and very creepy.

  • @jesse7037 Indeed - all scholars are in agreement that his relationships with the churches were determined by his own interests at the time. Lots of conflicting agendas back then from religious and non-religious places/organisations alike. Lots of misinformation around about it as well (such as the whole Operation Valkyrie - definitely not a stand against antisemitism).

  • @barrry9 Too much to put in the limited space provided, so here is the link! He was a christian and there is loads of evidence that theists try to ignore as it doesn't suit their 'religion makes you good' argument! Check the website 'truth-saves. com/adolf-hitler'

  • atheism and evolutionism are religions to. followers of these cults blindly except theories and lot's of bull crap that has nothing to do with science and are based on fiction.and in order to prove these theories evolutionists planted fake evidence of transitional fossils.you people are fuckin desperate. you have to face the fact that you are wrong and put an end to this fraud for mankind sake.you are holding back the scientific progress!! wake up assholes.p.s. I'm not religious

  • I think religion isn't so much a mental illness as it is a social disorder. It can certainly lead to some forms of mental illness like paranoia, but to me it more closely resembles a delusion of grandeur. That my life and my beliefs are better than yours. I'm right and your wrong, etc. It's an alpha dog type of social distortion.

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  • I think religion is primarily based upon the human need to belong to a tribal group with the fear of death being next in importance. The human need to follow leaders is just as important as leaders need to lead in the lord idea of religion. Every tribal group has a group identity(religion) which informs them that they are the special true peoples and others are lesser peoples. A god is a tribal group identity.

  • @humansaretheworld

    Yes, no one would worship any deity if it were not for thr promise of life after death,,,,in the end, cheating the grave is paramount to a person adhearing to any supernatural belief system.

  • Is that kermit the frog calling?

  • @Shadowbane3 I thought it was Bert from Sesame Street. Weird innit!

  • I'm sorry. I love this song, it's all I can really comment on right now.

  • to the bible fanatics out there...if "man was made in god's image", then that means god is a man right?? a man who created all the universes..LOL

  • @mysterymediacorp Your comment also proves my point that god has human qualities. My question is how would they explain the existence of animal life aside from humans? If creationism is correct why aren't there only humans dominating the Earth? That's because evolution is happening which ultimately makes god a human idea. The bible fanatics are retarded!

  • most mentaly ill people are religious

  • i seriously believe religious people are mentally inferior to nonreligious people.

  • @chiaromontestephen Not necessarily. People are indoctrinated into religion at a very young age and that kind of conditioning can be very hard to throw off no matter how smart you are. Francis Collins, head of the human genome project is very intelligent but also a YEC.

  • @chiaromontestephen That's a dumb thing to say. People have been indoctrinated since brith into beleiving these things and unlike Santa where eventually someone tells you he's not real and everyone around you agrees people are stuck in families of people who still do beleive. Also many religious people become atheists later, are you saying that while they are religious they are mentally inferior but when they switch over then BANG! they have become mentally adept? You know that's bull sh*t.

  • @olelumpy wow you youtubers are gullible as fuck. do you really think just because i said i was serious i was serious? obviously saying religious people are inferior to non-religious people is extremely ignorant and idiotic. people will believe anything nowadays.

  • @chiaromontestephen

    I hate to sound arrogant, but so do I. More evolved. I believe it's arrogant of us as a species to say we know for sure where we come from.

  • @endoes07 We don't know? We evolved from simpler form of life and if you want to go backwards our bodies are made from stardust.

  • true treu

  • i think religion came about as a means to control the tribe by the Warlord through fear so that he could maintain control even over the stronger men in the tribe. Take this guy Abraham , he is a prime example of this. He could say that he has a invisible god watching over them so if he is killed by his rivals then his god would destroy the whole tribe. Add religious rituals and folklore and you have a ironclad method for control over the weak minded members and he could sleep well in his tent .

  • @spectrumglare i agree 100% as a general of an army you claim to be devine or doing an act orchastrated by god. And if you are successful people believe it more and more. Unfortunately in my opinion religion has stuck around past the point it should have, in our day and age people should be able to see the bigger picture, but they're so brainwashed by what was molded into them at a younge age that they can't accept reality. Legalize marijuana.

  • its not about whos right... its about being humble and knowing that you may be wrong. From any point of view.

  • Athiests are so full of bull...... And so are false believers

  • @AaronWii1 amen to that

  • another way superstition got started could be be cause some people are just natural born story tellers - a polite way of saying natural born bull shitters. they just told stories just for the hell of it. or to test whether people would actually believe the stories they told. and then when people did believe them, they started deliberately manipulating them all the more to see how much more they could get away with and just for fun.  and eventually - for control of other people.

  • What if the God is all inclusive? No tribal issues as humanity has, no sexism or gender issues, no difference between poor and rich or intelligent and not so or wise and unwise...where is that God ? Anybody seen him at all? What do these religions really profess?

  • kryptonight like substance in iron? CROM!!!, rhats the riddle of steel

  • Religion is pervasive because it is a tribal group identity. All tribal groups know that they are the true peoples and others are lesser peoples. People have an innate propensity for tribalism and social conditioning by their group. People  accept a group identity to belong to their group. A god can be a major aspect of a tribal group identity and the ancients knew that their god was groups god an no one elses.

  • this is wrong.

    Christianity is real!

  • @BattousaiTS

    well i'm convinced!

  • Okay Believers, I'm sick of seeing your comments, SO, PLEASE tell me ONE thing, JUST ONE thing that you can do that is good for the world as a believer that you can do better than I can or can do that I can't because of your beliefs!! You can't? Imagine that! NOW, Tell me ONE just ONE absolutely horrible thing that has happened in human culture that WAS NOT related DIRECTLY to religion... Can't?! THAT IS WHY WE GIVE YOU AND YOUR BELIEFS SUCH A HARD FUCKING TIME!! TRUTH HURTS!!!

  • In relation to this title then any kind of thought would be a mental illness it would appear; it seems to me the atheist on here can be construed as being just as fundamental as some religious fundies in denying reality and ignoring the great works coming from religious and religion; it's clearly not the case that everything is bad in religion

  • Christian belief is not christian belife, it's only one by one, yes, one by one human pushed to death, without our conciousness, there is an answer to this, this is too little sick, to know, true is not what our minds are thinking, more and more you can get of this, but we are humans, we oppose to others at the beginning, then chaos is done, think what you believe? no, think what you feel you are, without any influences because you are one within. Is religion really means something for you? NO.

  • U guys are so stereo typical. Not all of us want to blow ourselves up for 72 virgins or live in constant fear of being dammed or even be abstinent. I live a completely normal life and i am very strong in the belief of christ. Fuck you dumbshits that are insulting religion. it is a way of life and is chosen and frankly i cant believe that people are so awful that now we are criticizing each other because of religion. The idea of religion is to bring peace and nothing more get it straight asswipes

  • BULLSHIT!!! GOD IS REAL!!!! fuck you atheists that think it is a mental illness. it is a chosen path i cant believe some people are so big of assholes that they put shit like this on the internet. Fuck all of you to hell if you think that religion is ''A mental disease''. Thats the biggest bunch of bullshit ive heard my entire life. you guys that came up with this are not only assholes but true dumbshits. people are so low in character that we are now being judged by religion? I cant believe it!

  • I think it is probably the misuse of religion being referred to; there are too many religious issues that are about learning and increasing knowledeg of our mind, body, universe, science, intellect and too many religious people who are interested in these subjects for it to be about ignorance and not using the mind and heart correctly

  • Teaching religion to very young children creates a great platform to nurture a mental illness or personality disorder. Teaching them how to locate the heart, the self and the inner strengths through parental love and caring process, is replaced by the indoctrination of religous horse shit. The children brought up this way, lack the parental wisdom and instincts denied them and so it is handed on generation after generation.

  • I am an atheist and respect the rules of nature. All the religions are fake, they are used to control the people and is a type of business. Every Single religion is made by cheaters.

  • Throw the baby out with the bath water!

  • if you strap a boom to ur body and kill people in the name of a "god"... that is crazy.

    get rid of god and we will be on r way to world peace

  • @DJcall2c get rid of the people who are doing crazy things in the name of god, it is impossible to get rid of god, what strength have you against the creator of millions of universes, dream on with your desire to get rid of god seriously, you are deep illusion

  • it is proof to me that you definitly do not want to know god is there or remember him as you didn't give me an address that i could have forwarded my article pertaining to evolution to you, lol

  • @gangadhari108 I want to know god is there! Can you please demonstrate god for us? Sorry, I reject christianity, but I give not preferential treatment to the myth of krishna either. All of the Hindu books are nice, entertaining mythologies, but no more verifiable than any other religious claim.

  • @ajax515 its good that you want to know whether god is there or not, its a good desire to have and i definitly did not come to believe in god blindly and don't advocate people believing in his reality blindly, i don't reject any religion, its just i have embraced the hare krishna religion because it answered so many questions that christianity could not. hinduism is a mixed bag of rituals and beliefs which are not to be found anywhere in the vedas so hinduism is also not so structured anymore

  • @gangadhari108 Ok, and that is great if it has answered questions for you. I'm not sure what all of those questions were or how it has answered them. The only thing I know for certain is that despite some nice metaphysical theories, science is the only truly reliable and verifiable way to demonstrate things in our reality.

  • similarly your daily living is a another level of dreaming but when you wake up to the love and beauty of Lord Krishna you will have transcended all levels of dreaming, namaste and take care