yeah" I was taken by surprise on YT when watching the Gibson les paul "Heartbreaker Solo". he has a Marshall DSL half stack behind him so I asumed thats what he was useing".I thought" oh yeah" now thats a nice classic authentic rock tone!.Yep' them Marshalls really do have it down"..the guy sent me a repy back saying it was an Pod EXT Pro". the thing about solid state is they dont have thev warm "FEEL" and response that you get with the Tube-Transformer setup.not bad sound" just feel and respo
90% of tone comes from the player not the gear. signature gear doesn't make you sound like slash. i find it amusing the number of people who dis something beause they don't know how to use it, then i get it for pennies on ebay............now you know i bought your ds1 for 20 quid. there is no shame in not knowing, we all gotta learn just dont run your mouth about somthing you dont understand. btw i play both live valve dirty, ss clean and my ss is a line 6 haha you never seen that one coming
@InterspeciesErotica7 well, actually i didn't really mean anything by it. im just joking around, obviously there's nothing wrong with a strat with humbuckers. However, in my opinion i don't like a mahogany guitar with single coils or an alder with humbuckers.
Waw you are a tag ok it is so obveous that the vid was edited wen you went to Turn on that fake peace of shit, inbetuin that little edit you changed the settings. And only just 2 tubes will not make a diff.
I quite literally do not understand why people say "More natural" when they talk about tube vs solid state, at least when we talk distortion. Distortion is not natural. I can understand rich, warm, depth, harmonics...anyway, cool little toy.
@Chester1920 Think of Tube amps in this way... Use a LED Flashlight and a regular Bulb flashlight. You have to see that there is a difference. The light bulb creates a "More Natural" light. Same basic concept. It is a preferance thing. I prefer tube but solid state has a place in music as well
WAY TOO MUCH TALKING! If someone is looking at this vid, they know all the stuff u are explaining anyway. also repeat yourself ALOT, said they give discounts 4 times! JUST FOOKIN PLAY! I use hot tubes from EH with my fender stage 185(one of the best clean sounds you will get from any amp) and it helps my distorted sound... dont use it on clean channel, like i stated, cant beat stage 185 clarity. you've made a Nice commercial! I typed this 4 mins in and you r still talkin!Shut up and PLAY!
Hey David, i just got one of these this weekend. I must say, it is pretty hardcore. I play through a 1989 Fender M-80, which i thought sounded good already. But wow, this thing makes it sound *so* much better.
I could use one of those RIGHT NOW! I'm finishing up an album at home, and even though I have a Marshall JCM 900 4102, British built killer all-tube beast, as well as a gorgeous Marshall JTM 610 all tube, I live in an apartment that's not very soundproof, so I can't crank either in order to get that beautiful tube sound. And, unfotunately, the built in COSM sounds on my recorder just don't cut it!
My bedroom amp is a Line6 Spider. It actually sounds pretty good at bedroom volumes. But when I use all 75 watts, it sounds like SHIT
My gigging amp is a Line6 HD147. I got it for two reasons I like tweaking tones. On most amps, you run out of tones fast. Thats why I wanted modeling. Second reason is consistency. I used a Spider before this amp, and I didn't want my band's sound to change drastically
I have to say, the HD147 is ACTUALLY a damn good amp. The sound is like a hi-end boutique amp
Hey I can hear a a difference. With the B283 it does sound more rich and natural. Also you have to take into consideration the microphone that is recording this video does ruin the quality of the sound. It all about little differences, you not going to find a miracle machine, this is the best it gets. You have to train your ears to hear the small differences in tone.
my god, ive watched 3 of your videos... in every single one of them u try and sell grant fidelity stuf, and then u say ure not on comission or anything.
Now, don't make fun of me, but my only amp is a line 6, spider 3, 15 watt practice style amp. Would this tube processor be good on it? would it be worth it?
I put this Grant Fidelity gadget through my "Dimebag" RG series Solid State Randall and it completely change the sound of my rig for better. I am in love with this thing.
Maybe you people should try to play a little bit with it. Absolutely AMAZING tone.
Wow, how you can even say that's good tone, there is no depth in it...It is just flat and sterile... It is all mid-high drive, the low-end is so flat.
I'm a big tube amp fan! But I don't think SS amps aren't as bad as ppl like to let on. I love to play out of Boogies for classic rock, fusion, and even clean jazz tones. But I get very satisfying tones from my cheap little 15 watt Marshall SS practice amp at bed room volumes. I think the problem is that there's a lot of noobs that can't play worth shit giving advice! Naturally they can't get a good tone out of a SS amp cuz they suck!
How many times have you seen a post on youtube were some guy has got smoking tone? Then some other guy posts a question asking the guy what amp he's using only to find out the guy was using a POD or something of the sort! Then everyone is flabbergasted because everyone has heard the noobs talk BS about the POD as if they are experts! LOL! I honestly think the majority of people don't know WTF they're talking about!
I know what the fuck I'm talking about. And most people can't hear the difference between a good tube amp and a model. I can hear the difference. The pod is good for practicing but is not something that I would ever use in a studio.
dude you are so right, solid state amps are modeled to put out tube amp tone, and are barely off. i find marshall mg100s to put out great sound for rythm theyre very chunky.. and tube amps tend to be better for lead playing, but its all about knowing how to set your amp and achieving the sound your looking for.
@osensei2987 i agree, i love me some tubes.. personally though there are many SS amps that suck for tone. like.. Randalls SS half stack that came out 2 or 3 years ago for example. but you cant make the distinction as easily at low volumes. IMO marshall has some of the better sounding SS amps though. before i bougth my Madison Divinity, (great amp if you've nvr heard of it) i was using a marshall mg100hdfx or whatever, i think youll know what im talking about.
@osensei2987 Or the guys using a pod has a nice guitar and nice computer so the programs run prestine. Its not about what can be acheived with the perfect tweaking of budget programs.. Its about what produces the most versatile unit for tone under your (or the desired) umbrella of preference. Line 6 doesnt make awful products, but lets face it, there biggest acheivement is NOT warm tone, its the DL4.
No. Preamp distortion is what you hear most of the time. Power tube tone kicks in at very high volumes. You normally can't get your power tubes saturated enough unless you're in a gig situation. Not unless you want to go deaf.
once again, waste of time video. To those kids that listen to what this guy says in this video: this is more waste of money. Just buy a tube amp and don't waste your time with "processors". Leave that shit for your cpu.
but why buy either (tube amp or tube processor) when you can build it. i priced building this thing. it will only cost 30- 40 bucks. also, these things are great for home stereo equipment. makes it sound amazing.
a preamp is not a processor dude look your shit up... every amp has a preamp you can easily bypass a non tube preamp with a tube preamp. i would have went with a vht or a mesa but what ever.
its called a review.... your kinda supposed to do that... i mean what if he didnt say u have to plug it in through the effects loop? you might not have one with your amp and would have just wasted money
Thanks for the input on the preamp. I have an older Marlboro solid state amp that I want to add some tone sound to. I wasn't sure how I would plug it in to the amp.
No problem. The thing about these preamps is they do change the tone of your amp when they are in front, so if you use it with a tube amp, you may prefer the fx loop, so your signal hits the preamp tubes, then this little box, then the power amp. But with a solid state amp, it's actually doing more good if it's up front. That way your signal hits tubes before anything else. The SS amp will still chill it down some, but you will get the dynamic response of playing directly in to tubes first.
let me guess the last comment came from an american... am I wrong? You do not own the world and if you had the ability to look beyond your border you'd see that there is a huge world beyond your borders!!! And by the way for all you red necks the 9/11 bombers didn't come through Canada!!!
After watching this video I bought on from Grant Fidelity. The first thing I noticed is when the unit is off it lowers the volume and dulls the tone of your amp. When turned on the volume and tone go back to normal. David forgets to mention the volume drop and makes you believe the b-283 increases the dimension of your sound with tube characteristics. My amp has a footswitchable effects loop so I can bypass the unit to A-B the sound with and without. No difference at all. Thanks David.
One thing I can say about Grant Fidelity is that Ian Grant is extremely helpful. He went through different ways to hook the unit up to my solid state amp and when I still didn't notice any change he refunded my money without any trouble. The best customer service I ever had. My amp is a Tech 21 Trademark 60 solid state. I really wanted this unit too work and I also tried it with a Crate solid state...No difference. Thank again David for wasting my time with a misleading review.
Sooo.. I got my refund for the magic box, I sold my tech 21 amp, and broke down and bought a decent tube amp. Now I have good tube tone. Once again thank you David, but in the future David please remember I like to be kissed when I'm getting f@#$ed.
why does everyone always talk about digital as being so bad. there are so many pieces of gear that arent tube that are some of the most sought after pieces of gear out there. solid state logic, neve, api any of those ring a bell? stop reading guitar world and use your ears, stop blindly following what everyone says make your own choices.
Hold on... I don't talk about digital being bad at all. There are positive and negative aspects of digital. Whether it's the ease of use and HD qualities of digital, or the lack of analog signal characteristics, I still think digital is the way to go for recording purposes, since AD converters have gained such high fidelity.
But for guitar amps - I analyzed recordings of solid state vs valve amps myself. I analyzed the wave & frequency output resulting from the distortion circuit in each amp.
i agree with you, i was just saying there are a lot of people out there who read interviews and articles that say one thing, and that's how they think. i agree as far as how analogue distorts, it is very pleasing because it naturally compresses in a musical way. it just bothers me when so many people think they know what they're talking about because they subscribe to guitar player.
Because of the much lower volt variance in the output from transistors in guitar amps, the wave's clipping point wasn't very rounded off. The valve's push and pull characteristic produces a more desirable sound, even at lower volumes.
I have an acoustic isolation cabinet for my 4x12, which allows me to "crank it". But the power amp doesn't necessarily have to be driven at 10. I can acheive similar tones with the volume at about 5-7.
Digital isnt bad its just that the majority of it dosent compare to what tube has to offer, im sorry that one technology is better than another, it dosent have to be your loss.
im aware that SS tech is great in some circumstances. but when you have the dough to buy a halfstack that you will be using for gigs and stuff, please get it tube if you have the patience to deal with the biasing and stuff
state logic, neve and api? who are they? if they actually have designed something great, then why havent I heard of them?
BTW, everybody is making their own choices, that is if they are smart enough to understand how this technology works and they understand the circuitry properties of different tubes or modeling chips. same with speakers and cabinet woods. everything makes a much larger difference then you think it does when it comes to guitars and amps.
Do yourself a favour, don't even waste time watching this video... The information you'll be given is incorrect.
Valve Preamps won't improve your tone anywhere near as much as power amp valves will. Output valves will give you 10 times the increase in tonal qualities.
Yes, that's why the tone shown to you in this video sounds horrible. Muddy and fizzy.
the only way that power tubes are going to give you that sound is if they are pushed to the absolute brink. while i agree that the power tubes do give you great tone, not as much as you may think, and your amp would always have to on ten and i dont know about you but i dont want to run my amps on ten all the time
because if you have a tube signal being processed by something digital, the result comes out digital-sounding.
Now if you have the tubes after the digital part, it's going to be reverse, it's going to be a digital signal being processed by tubes, and the result will be tube-sounding
this guy talks too much. I understand that there are certain things he wants to communicate about the guitar or amp he's testing, but he goes on forever. most people watching this clip have a decent idea about this gear, but he comes off like he's explaining it all to an alien who's never seen a guitar or amp. yak yak yak yak- just let us HEAR IT.
but that's the point of his videos... beginners to pros. Very informative, in this videos there's always one thing i didn't know about the stuff they're reviewing. Seems not a bad idea to go through all the info.
yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn't trying to really put the guy down. he just kind of "ums" and "uhs" endlessly and puts in a lot of extraneous information. there are other people on youtube who review gear who can manage to tell you about the gear without making it seem like they're more intersted in teaching you about the gear and less intersted in hearing themselves prattle on forever. the least he could do would be to play for 30 seconds before he starts the endless speech.
the tubes are an important part to that sound then.... so u cant get that just by usein solid state? I need to get a tube processor or a tube amp, but i dont know how to upkeep the tubes and what not.
the other day i tried a Laney soild state and was pretty awesome, Randalls are a good choice too and not as pricey as the Marshall ones. You should take a look at those brands.
It wont sound as good, If you put trough your input, the Solid State preamp is going to Rob some of your guitar's tone and Warmth. Try to turn the Solid State preamp's Gain or Volume to Zero or something to prevent coloring, Its just a suggestion so dont get me wrong.
Transistors favour odd harmonics, valves favour even harmonics. Mixing them is the fastest way to get the worst of both worlds. That said, in a Class B guitar amp, it could be that the tube preamp evens out some of the courseness. It will be different for every amplifier.
I've been doing some research on a couple Solid State Amps...Line 6 Spider III Jam 75W and Marshall MG50DFX amps. My Intentions are to combine either one of these with the B-283 Tube Preamp similar to this video. Anyone have any advice on which setup would be better to have?
Find a used Marshall Valvestate combo (8040 or 8080)and you'll thank yourself, these already get great sound, and with the preamp it would sound maybe a bit better, but you might not even need it.
Ehhh just get the Flextone 3 XL 212. I did a few weeks ago and it really has awesome sounds, some of which sound like a tube amp...but without the headache of having tubes.
I'd got for the Marshall. I love the Pod and Line6 have changed things beyond recognition however the lower end products they do have alimited tonality and after the initial 'Wow' you will get bored with it very quickly.
even worse, it gives line 6 a bad name, because a lot of newbies hear people talking about how the spiders are terrible, so they go around like "zomg line 6 are teh suck", even though they clearly havent tried the flextones, vettas, or POD's
i'm not a fan of emulated sounds, there's no way to get the same tone of the real one, wich gives a crappy tone at the end. I preffer way more getting a solidstate transistor not emulated amp with nice features and put this thing on and create a real sound, not a fake one, that's why i don't like line 6 spiders and the Marshall MG's or any emulated amp.-
i disagree wallace. i used to have a really heavy duty digitech processor that had 2 tube preamps and i ran it through a 15 watt Crate reverb amp and actually played some shows with that. it made my amp hit so hard nobody could tell i was only playing out of a little tiny thing! it screamed too. i use a lot of whammy effects like Vai and a lot of harmonics and it captured all the sounds i needed. i spent about 400 (used) for the pedal and around 75 for the amp. not a bad setup.
I have tried to listen and keep an open mind about tube preamps, but when you run them through a solid state amp it just sounds like a more distorted solid state amp. Tube tone comes from a TUBE amp. I'm not here to bash this video but if you buy a $150 amp, and that $250 preamp, you now have $400 in a rig that just isn't worth it. With the right shopping and research you can find a small tube amp for $400 and have all that rich tone without having to have 2 separate units. This is just my input
I've been using a Peavey TG Raxx preamp thru the effects loop in my Flextone for about 8 years now and it does incredible things for the tone and punch...very, very convincing tone. And I have tube amps too so that is an unbiased opinion. I also have a short clip on You Tube if you want to check it out...Cheers!
Biasing is what you need a guitar tech to do to the new power tubes when you replace them.
You need to adjust the amount of power that goes through the tubes. Tubes vary, so they need to be adjusted. It's very dangerous to do it yourself, as there are very high voltages involved. Don't try it at home.
Too much power will shorten the life of the tubes, and not enough will weaken the sound.
Yes, since the tube processor is not powered you want to run it through the effects loop. Grant Fidelity os working on another that produces power too - stay tuned
This B-283 tube processor doesn't request biasing. Tubes are 6J1 - easy to find and about $10 each / $20 a pair. We provide 90 days warranty. Usually tubes if survive first 90 days, they have 10,000 hours life expectancy.
Hey david, I love your videos, and I was wondering could you guys review a small tube amp for practicing and small gigs? I love that tube amp sound, but I don't have the money to spend on something like a blues junior. Thanks
Great vid and very nice guitar, is it a strat? The middle pick-up seems to be missing or maybe I can't see it on the vid thinking of getting a humbucker on mine at the bridge wired so i can have a single coil also any suggestions for a blues kinda sound?
Hi - yes, in this lesson I am using a USA made Fender BIG APPLE stratocaster - the guitar comes stock with 2 seymore duncan humbuckers - Fender only made this model for a couple of years in the mid 90s.
I am trying to get a shipment in by mid of December. Just in time for Christmas. Stay tuned at our official website - shipment arrival will be announced once it is in.
watch the Heartbreaker guitar solo-Led Zeppelin. he"s useing a Pod XT Pro.I thought it was the Marshall behind him
dewycatt2112 1 month ago
yeah" I was taken by surprise on YT when watching the Gibson les paul "Heartbreaker Solo". he has a Marshall DSL half stack behind him so I asumed thats what he was useing".I thought" oh yeah" now thats a nice classic authentic rock tone!.Yep' them Marshalls really do have it down"..the guy sent me a repy back saying it was an Pod EXT Pro". the thing about solid state is they dont have thev warm "FEEL" and response that you get with the Tube-Transformer setup.not bad sound" just feel and respo
dewycatt2112 1 month ago
tp mush talking
omnicronvegas 5 months ago
90% of tone comes from the player not the gear. signature gear doesn't make you sound like slash. i find it amusing the number of people who dis something beause they don't know how to use it, then i get it for pennies on ebay............now you know i bought your ds1 for 20 quid. there is no shame in not knowing, we all gotta learn just dont run your mouth about somthing you dont understand. btw i play both live valve dirty, ss clean and my ss is a line 6 haha you never seen that one coming
sgbigsby1989 6 months ago
i have a question what should i run it threw if i dont have a effects loop
holyass242 7 months ago
@holyass242 straight through your guitar into the amp. fx lopp just makes your fx a part of the amps circuit improving tone
KhaarJoon 3 months ago
firstly... wow... nice video...
second..... a question... could I run a tubescreamer before this, and push the tubes thru this even more?
SUPitsDave 7 months ago
@SUPitsDave YES
KhaarJoon 3 months ago
@InterspeciesErotica7 well, actually i didn't really mean anything by it. im just joking around, obviously there's nothing wrong with a strat with humbuckers. However, in my opinion i don't like a mahogany guitar with single coils or an alder with humbuckers.
that1stupidkid613 8 months ago
Waw you are a tag ok it is so obveous that the vid was edited wen you went to Turn on that fake peace of shit, inbetuin that little edit you changed the settings. And only just 2 tubes will not make a diff.
BATTLEFIELDvett 8 months ago
Thumbs down for a strat with buckers...
that1stupidkid613 8 months ago
@that1stupidkid613 - That's like saying single coils in a LP is stupid. Your user name says it all
InterspeciesErotica7 8 months ago
@that1stupidkid613 Thumbs down ??? just like InterspeciesErotica7 said ; your username says it all.
TheMusicDude1997 7 months ago
Thanks for posting these videos. You do a great job. One of the best guitar teachers i have encountered.
journeyquest1 9 months ago
I quite literally do not understand why people say "More natural" when they talk about tube vs solid state, at least when we talk distortion. Distortion is not natural. I can understand rich, warm, depth, harmonics...anyway, cool little toy.
Chester1920 11 months ago
@Chester1920 Think of Tube amps in this way... Use a LED Flashlight and a regular Bulb flashlight. You have to see that there is a difference. The light bulb creates a "More Natural" light. Same basic concept. It is a preferance thing. I prefer tube but solid state has a place in music as well
Painscale 10 months ago
really it just sounded like a bass boost to me and the original drive didn't sound that bad to me
SkeletinProductions 1 year ago
nice preamp
maxxyporky 1 year ago
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pegasomarcelo 1 year ago
have ever tried like a ART Tube MP Studio Mic Preamp or a Behringer TUBE ULTRAGAIN MIC100 on like the rg60
21zband 1 year ago
WAY TOO MUCH TALKING! If someone is looking at this vid, they know all the stuff u are explaining anyway. also repeat yourself ALOT, said they give discounts 4 times! JUST FOOKIN PLAY! I use hot tubes from EH with my fender stage 185(one of the best clean sounds you will get from any amp) and it helps my distorted sound... dont use it on clean channel, like i stated, cant beat stage 185 clarity. you've made a Nice commercial! I typed this 4 mins in and you r still talkin!Shut up and PLAY!
idleedison 1 year ago
@idleedison yo man you need to chill out.. go play guitar or something.
MaybeitsTokar2 1 year ago
The text box is now up there...or down the video. but fuck it...ever since this bithces sold out the next thing it will be a website for ads.
thehornypuppy 1 year ago
I own a B-283 because of you . THANK YOU , Thank You , thank you ..... I LOVE IT !
hutchfromba 1 year ago 2
Hey David, i just got one of these this weekend. I must say, it is pretty hardcore. I play through a 1989 Fender M-80, which i thought sounded good already. But wow, this thing makes it sound *so* much better.
ryanricks 1 year ago
I could use one of those RIGHT NOW! I'm finishing up an album at home, and even though I have a Marshall JCM 900 4102, British built killer all-tube beast, as well as a gorgeous Marshall JTM 610 all tube, I live in an apartment that's not very soundproof, so I can't crank either in order to get that beautiful tube sound. And, unfotunately, the built in COSM sounds on my recorder just don't cut it!
JoeSzilagy 1 year ago
My bedroom amp is a Line6 Spider. It actually sounds pretty good at bedroom volumes. But when I use all 75 watts, it sounds like SHIT
My gigging amp is a Line6 HD147. I got it for two reasons I like tweaking tones. On most amps, you run out of tones fast. Thats why I wanted modeling. Second reason is consistency. I used a Spider before this amp, and I didn't want my band's sound to change drastically
I have to say, the HD147 is ACTUALLY a damn good amp. The sound is like a hi-end boutique amp
TesseractDigital 1 year ago
How do you think it would sound with a Line 6 Spider VI?
Acer6828 1 year ago
@Acer6828 I meant Spider IV. My bad
Acer6828 1 year ago
Geeez Just stop talking and start doing what your good at. PLAYING:)
MrJackanthony 1 year ago
whoa, ive never heard of these. i think ill get myself one of these babies
HeavyMetalGuitar89 1 year ago
wish 80 ss wats would be enough tu run bass through 2 15s :/
VarykGerai 2 years ago
Holy crap, i want! i want!
mchief39 2 years ago
7:41 is Solid State, and 8:43 is Tube. He is playing the same thing. WOW listen to the difference.
Nwood913 2 years ago 2
im not being sarcastic btw
Nwood913 2 years ago
Hey I can hear a a difference. With the B283 it does sound more rich and natural. Also you have to take into consideration the microphone that is recording this video does ruin the quality of the sound. It all about little differences, you not going to find a miracle machine, this is the best it gets. You have to train your ears to hear the small differences in tone.
IncineratorFilms 2 years ago
It's added some boost, some extra gain and additional eq.
The Vox Satchurator could do the same thing, possibly for a better end result.
j9o9h9n9n9y9 1 year ago
Nice video
btw I have a Marshall valvestate 40 watt amp
and have heard that it has a tube in it...
Can someone plz tell me about it
hoodiey 2 years ago
maybe on the pre-amp only, because it's a solid state
pfarina 2 years ago
it'll have 1 preamp tube in it but its mostly solid state
almostsk8er01 2 years ago
my god, ive watched 3 of your videos... in every single one of them u try and sell grant fidelity stuf, and then u say ure not on comission or anything.
wertaw 2 years ago
Now, don't make fun of me, but my only amp is a line 6, spider 3, 15 watt practice style amp. Would this tube processor be good on it? would it be worth it?
RATM4LIF3 2 years ago
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RATM4LIF3 2 years ago
I put this Grant Fidelity gadget through my "Dimebag" RG series Solid State Randall and it completely change the sound of my rig for better. I am in love with this thing.
Maybe you people should try to play a little bit with it. Absolutely AMAZING tone.
Thanks Grant Fidelity !
mendizaleak85 2 years ago
Wow, how you can even say that's good tone, there is no depth in it...It is just flat and sterile... It is all mid-high drive, the low-end is so flat.
HellBent1337 2 years ago 2
HA HA! When he points at his description box there's a advertisement in it's place for me!
zedrein18 2 years ago
Jeeeezus Harold Christ!!!!!!!!!! Hushhhhhh
cgspivey71 2 years ago
he took at 3 min vid and turned it into 10mins
jptzy 2 years ago
I'm a big tube amp fan! But I don't think SS amps aren't as bad as ppl like to let on. I love to play out of Boogies for classic rock, fusion, and even clean jazz tones. But I get very satisfying tones from my cheap little 15 watt Marshall SS practice amp at bed room volumes. I think the problem is that there's a lot of noobs that can't play worth shit giving advice! Naturally they can't get a good tone out of a SS amp cuz they suck!
osensei2987 2 years ago 26
How many times have you seen a post on youtube were some guy has got smoking tone? Then some other guy posts a question asking the guy what amp he's using only to find out the guy was using a POD or something of the sort! Then everyone is flabbergasted because everyone has heard the noobs talk BS about the POD as if they are experts! LOL! I honestly think the majority of people don't know WTF they're talking about!
osensei2987 2 years ago 21
I know what the fuck I'm talking about. And most people can't hear the difference between a good tube amp and a model. I can hear the difference. The pod is good for practicing but is not something that I would ever use in a studio.
realguitarist07 2 years ago
It's so easy to tell the difference between Tube and Solid State, I completely agree with you.
I wouldn't even jam with my friends with this crap...
HellBent1337 2 years ago
dude you are so right, solid state amps are modeled to put out tube amp tone, and are barely off. i find marshall mg100s to put out great sound for rythm theyre very chunky.. and tube amps tend to be better for lead playing, but its all about knowing how to set your amp and achieving the sound your looking for.
brianvillage123 2 years ago
@osensei2987 i agree, i love me some tubes.. personally though there are many SS amps that suck for tone. like.. Randalls SS half stack that came out 2 or 3 years ago for example. but you cant make the distinction as easily at low volumes. IMO marshall has some of the better sounding SS amps though. before i bougth my Madison Divinity, (great amp if you've nvr heard of it) i was using a marshall mg100hdfx or whatever, i think youll know what im talking about.
MasterMeep 1 year ago
@osensei2987 Or the guys using a pod has a nice guitar and nice computer so the programs run prestine. Its not about what can be acheived with the perfect tweaking of budget programs.. Its about what produces the most versatile unit for tone under your (or the desired) umbrella of preference. Line 6 doesnt make awful products, but lets face it, there biggest acheivement is NOT warm tone, its the DL4.
MaybeitsTokar2 1 year ago
@osensei2987 Welcome to the internet.
jaj145 5 months ago
I think you are high lol JK
freetssti 2 years ago
my point is that it is a waste of time trying to make a bad amp sound good. Just buy a good amp and leave it there.
edwardsforest 2 years ago 3
yeah exactly i got a vintage 100 watt Peavey Special tube amp for 200 bucks at my local shop. Im pretty much set for life.
PieceofMindmusic 2 years ago
good guy but that hat makes you look ike a 10 year old
fridogg 2 years ago
dosent most of the sound/ tone come from the power tubes? not the preamp tubes?
joshlwilson 2 years ago
No. Preamp distortion is what you hear most of the time. Power tube tone kicks in at very high volumes. You normally can't get your power tubes saturated enough unless you're in a gig situation. Not unless you want to go deaf.
osensei2987 2 years ago 2
once again, waste of time video. To those kids that listen to what this guy says in this video: this is more waste of money. Just buy a tube amp and don't waste your time with "processors". Leave that shit for your cpu.
edwardsforest 2 years ago
but why buy either (tube amp or tube processor) when you can build it. i priced building this thing. it will only cost 30- 40 bucks. also, these things are great for home stereo equipment. makes it sound amazing.
JW
joshlwilson 2 years ago
Hey Josh,
Do you (or anyone here) have the schematics for this thing?
I bet it is pretty easy to build.
mgcasella 2 years ago
a preamp is not a processor dude look your shit up... every amp has a preamp you can easily bypass a non tube preamp with a tube preamp. i would have went with a vht or a mesa but what ever.
SpiritSlayer 2 years ago
It should have 1/4" jacks.
gwugluud11 2 years ago
dude, just play the dam thing
brikbatwarrior 2 years ago
We're doin' the whole SHABANG here!
punkeratheart 2 years ago 4
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ASTROAVERY 2 years ago
HA YA DOIN!!
ihaveadogandheisfat 2 years ago
My amp head has a "SEND/LINE OUT/RETURN" port in the back. Its got the 2 cable openings below it. Could that be used as an effects loop?
xs1ner 2 years ago
that IS an effects loop.
hillbillygenius72 2 years ago
man,play the damn fucker instead of talking for five minutes!
fullofblood 2 years ago
its called a review.... your kinda supposed to do that... i mean what if he didnt say u have to plug it in through the effects loop? you might not have one with your amp and would have just wasted money
lespaulrules123 2 years ago
ah,i thought it was supposed to be a demo.
fullofblood 2 years ago
Not exactly. The effects loop is one way, but you can also put it in front between your guitar and the amp's input.
punkeratheart 2 years ago
Thanks for the input on the preamp. I have an older Marlboro solid state amp that I want to add some tone sound to. I wasn't sure how I would plug it in to the amp.
101pathfinder 2 years ago
No problem. The thing about these preamps is they do change the tone of your amp when they are in front, so if you use it with a tube amp, you may prefer the fx loop, so your signal hits the preamp tubes, then this little box, then the power amp. But with a solid state amp, it's actually doing more good if it's up front. That way your signal hits tubes before anything else. The SS amp will still chill it down some, but you will get the dynamic response of playing directly in to tubes first.
punkeratheart 2 years ago
what should I do if my amp doesn't have a loop? My amp only has an input jack, I don't have the option to put it through an effects loop
hillbillygenius72 2 years ago
it does sound ballsier but is that because its added gain from the pre amp?
sr1129 2 years ago
let me guess the last comment came from an american... am I wrong? You do not own the world and if you had the ability to look beyond your border you'd see that there is a huge world beyond your borders!!! And by the way for all you red necks the 9/11 bombers didn't come through Canada!!!
bigdaddypaint 2 years ago
Please don't even begin to assume all americans act like that, I promise we're not all that stupid
4949oz 2 years ago 3
European supporter!
fullofblood 2 years ago
you're right I apologize! Please don't think I lump all americans together. Thanks for your response.
bigdaddypaint 2 years ago
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nothing good comes out of fucking canada
eyeofth3b3hold3r 2 years ago
your just jealous of our free healthcare :)
JayLacelle 2 years ago 3
USA BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mexstrat96 2 years ago
After watching this video I bought on from Grant Fidelity. The first thing I noticed is when the unit is off it lowers the volume and dulls the tone of your amp. When turned on the volume and tone go back to normal. David forgets to mention the volume drop and makes you believe the b-283 increases the dimension of your sound with tube characteristics. My amp has a footswitchable effects loop so I can bypass the unit to A-B the sound with and without. No difference at all. Thanks David.
monkeyboy081999 2 years ago
One thing I can say about Grant Fidelity is that Ian Grant is extremely helpful. He went through different ways to hook the unit up to my solid state amp and when I still didn't notice any change he refunded my money without any trouble. The best customer service I ever had. My amp is a Tech 21 Trademark 60 solid state. I really wanted this unit too work and I also tried it with a Crate solid state...No difference. Thank again David for wasting my time with a misleading review.
monkeyboy081999 2 years ago
Sooo.. I got my refund for the magic box, I sold my tech 21 amp, and broke down and bought a decent tube amp. Now I have good tube tone. Once again thank you David, but in the future David please remember I like to be kissed when I'm getting f@#$ed.
monkeyboy081999 2 years ago
Christ man, you are one ANGRY mofo. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Glad you finally got your hands on a decent amp, though.
mickcivic 2 years ago
why does everyone always talk about digital as being so bad. there are so many pieces of gear that arent tube that are some of the most sought after pieces of gear out there. solid state logic, neve, api any of those ring a bell? stop reading guitar world and use your ears, stop blindly following what everyone says make your own choices.
dkrumrie123 2 years ago
Hold on... I don't talk about digital being bad at all. There are positive and negative aspects of digital. Whether it's the ease of use and HD qualities of digital, or the lack of analog signal characteristics, I still think digital is the way to go for recording purposes, since AD converters have gained such high fidelity.
But for guitar amps - I analyzed recordings of solid state vs valve amps myself. I analyzed the wave & frequency output resulting from the distortion circuit in each amp.
Daracon75 2 years ago
i agree with you, i was just saying there are a lot of people out there who read interviews and articles that say one thing, and that's how they think. i agree as far as how analogue distorts, it is very pleasing because it naturally compresses in a musical way. it just bothers me when so many people think they know what they're talking about because they subscribe to guitar player.
dkrumrie123 2 years ago
Because of the much lower volt variance in the output from transistors in guitar amps, the wave's clipping point wasn't very rounded off. The valve's push and pull characteristic produces a more desirable sound, even at lower volumes.
I have an acoustic isolation cabinet for my 4x12, which allows me to "crank it". But the power amp doesn't necessarily have to be driven at 10. I can acheive similar tones with the volume at about 5-7.
Daracon75 2 years ago
dude, shut up.
Digital isnt bad its just that the majority of it dosent compare to what tube has to offer, im sorry that one technology is better than another, it dosent have to be your loss.
im aware that SS tech is great in some circumstances. but when you have the dough to buy a halfstack that you will be using for gigs and stuff, please get it tube if you have the patience to deal with the biasing and stuff
(to be continued)
xxfinnellxx 2 years ago
state logic, neve and api? who are they? if they actually have designed something great, then why havent I heard of them?
BTW, everybody is making their own choices, that is if they are smart enough to understand how this technology works and they understand the circuitry properties of different tubes or modeling chips. same with speakers and cabinet woods. everything makes a much larger difference then you think it does when it comes to guitars and amps.
damn, time for some appple juice
xxfinnellxx 2 years ago
hmmm... and because no many people knows the company name and their products means that all his products are shit?
albertogaytan2003 2 years ago
Dude, HOW can you not have heard of Solid State Logic or Neve? They're certainly not obscure.
Their equipment is found in SO MANY major recording studios.
j9o9h9n9n9y9 1 year ago
Way to comment on a comment from 10 months ago.
I just pay attention to live rigs most of time. Allthough I should pay attention to live recording
xxfinnellxx 1 year ago
9:30 "A Solid State amp now takes on the sound of a tube amp".
No it doesn't. Sounds nothing like a tube amp. Just sounds like a horrible Solid State amp.
He sits on a throne of lies and he knows it.
Daracon75 2 years ago
Do yourself a favour, don't even waste time watching this video... The information you'll be given is incorrect.
Valve Preamps won't improve your tone anywhere near as much as power amp valves will. Output valves will give you 10 times the increase in tonal qualities.
Yes, that's why the tone shown to you in this video sounds horrible. Muddy and fizzy.
Daracon75 2 years ago
the only way that power tubes are going to give you that sound is if they are pushed to the absolute brink. while i agree that the power tubes do give you great tone, not as much as you may think, and your amp would always have to on ten and i dont know about you but i dont want to run my amps on ten all the time
dkrumrie123 2 years ago
Nice piece of equipment. His tone is ballsack though.
spoonydanger 2 years ago
I don't know what it is, but this guy is so cool.
RafaHendrix 2 years ago
Wait, why not plug
from your guitar
to the tube preamp
to the ss amp,
Instead of
your guitar to amp
and effects out to tube preamp to effects in?
randumbtimes3 2 years ago
because if you have a tube signal being processed by something digital, the result comes out digital-sounding.
Now if you have the tubes after the digital part, it's going to be reverse, it's going to be a digital signal being processed by tubes, and the result will be tube-sounding
it's kinda hard to explain, im portuguese...
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steamlilly 2 years ago
talky to much. needs to just play so i can hear what the fucking thing sounds like. blablbalbalbalbalbla
gwaryourself 2 years ago
instead of complaining about him talking too much, why dont you just shut up and listen what he has to say.
greensp4rk 2 years ago 3
this guy is a legend. you find him in every related video to guitar videos. he's everywhere
utubemaster047 3 years ago
Peavey Windsor All Tube 100w Half Stack is only $400 at Guitar Center and Musicians Friend.
ItzAmazingBrian 3 years ago
is it any good?
tastelessbros 3 years ago
I have yet to try it. I saw it on the front page of musicians friend. I would suggest you try it out.
ItzAmazingBrian 3 years ago
you can't get clean sound from it and you cant get some realy dirty sound from it. It's good for some blues or some soft rock only.
partyboy93 3 years ago
it sounds pretty good but i feel like i just spent 10 mins watching qvc
tremalow 3 years ago
this guy talks too much. I understand that there are certain things he wants to communicate about the guitar or amp he's testing, but he goes on forever. most people watching this clip have a decent idea about this gear, but he comes off like he's explaining it all to an alien who's never seen a guitar or amp. yak yak yak yak- just let us HEAR IT.
TechnicalEvaluation 3 years ago
but that's the point of his videos... beginners to pros. Very informative, in this videos there's always one thing i didn't know about the stuff they're reviewing. Seems not a bad idea to go through all the info.
dimebagpipebike 3 years ago
yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn't trying to really put the guy down. he just kind of "ums" and "uhs" endlessly and puts in a lot of extraneous information. there are other people on youtube who review gear who can manage to tell you about the gear without making it seem like they're more intersted in teaching you about the gear and less intersted in hearing themselves prattle on forever. the least he could do would be to play for 30 seconds before he starts the endless speech.
TechnicalEvaluation 3 years ago
the tubes are an important part to that sound then.... so u cant get that just by usein solid state? I need to get a tube processor or a tube amp, but i dont know how to upkeep the tubes and what not.
baddmaddogg 3 years ago
Whats a decent Solid state amp? I gotta watch my upkeep spenditures. so I need something that dont need a lot of upkeep.
baddmaddogg 3 years ago
the other day i tried a Laney soild state and was pretty awesome, Randalls are a good choice too and not as pricey as the Marshall ones. You should take a look at those brands.
dimebagpipebike 3 years ago
It wont sound as good, If you put trough your input, the Solid State preamp is going to Rob some of your guitar's tone and Warmth. Try to turn the Solid State preamp's Gain or Volume to Zero or something to prevent coloring, Its just a suggestion so dont get me wrong.
Timzsk8 3 years ago
Transistors favour odd harmonics, valves favour even harmonics. Mixing them is the fastest way to get the worst of both worlds. That said, in a Class B guitar amp, it could be that the tube preamp evens out some of the courseness. It will be different for every amplifier.
3Deity 3 years ago
lol was he playing "Maynard's Dick" at the beginning?
vincristine777 3 years ago
Sure sounds like it.
mooseface13 3 years ago
I've been doing some research on a couple Solid State Amps...Line 6 Spider III Jam 75W and Marshall MG50DFX amps. My Intentions are to combine either one of these with the B-283 Tube Preamp similar to this video. Anyone have any advice on which setup would be better to have?
bradmu 3 years ago
Find a used Marshall Valvestate combo (8040 or 8080)and you'll thank yourself, these already get great sound, and with the preamp it would sound maybe a bit better, but you might not even need it.
HamBungler 3 years ago
Ehhh just get the Flextone 3 XL 212. I did a few weeks ago and it really has awesome sounds, some of which sound like a tube amp...but without the headache of having tubes.
theshyguitarist 3 years ago
I'd got for the Marshall. I love the Pod and Line6 have changed things beyond recognition however the lower end products they do have alimited tonality and after the initial 'Wow' you will get bored with it very quickly.
3Deity 3 years ago 3
marshall MG's and line 6 spiders are crap,
chriscoooley 3 years ago 4
I agree... 200% always regret my cheap digital ss line 6 spider can't even replicate a soft tube tone. Epic amp of failure.
DiscoBuiscuit 3 years ago
and are expensive, wich is crap too
you can get similar amps with better sound, bigger speaker, more watts, etc, for the same price as a marshall or line 6.
dimebagpipebike 3 years ago 2
even worse, it gives line 6 a bad name, because a lot of newbies hear people talking about how the spiders are terrible, so they go around like "zomg line 6 are teh suck", even though they clearly havent tried the flextones, vettas, or POD's
chriscoooley 3 years ago
i'm not a fan of emulated sounds, there's no way to get the same tone of the real one, wich gives a crappy tone at the end. I preffer way more getting a solidstate transistor not emulated amp with nice features and put this thing on and create a real sound, not a fake one, that's why i don't like line 6 spiders and the Marshall MG's or any emulated amp.-
dimebagpipebike 3 years ago
Thank you for this demo! I may be sold on this device and it sounds like it may improve the sound of some good sounding solid state heads.
vulgarjack 3 years ago
i disagree wallace. i used to have a really heavy duty digitech processor that had 2 tube preamps and i ran it through a 15 watt Crate reverb amp and actually played some shows with that. it made my amp hit so hard nobody could tell i was only playing out of a little tiny thing! it screamed too. i use a lot of whammy effects like Vai and a lot of harmonics and it captured all the sounds i needed. i spent about 400 (used) for the pedal and around 75 for the amp. not a bad setup.
ragnaroksangel 3 years ago
I have tried to listen and keep an open mind about tube preamps, but when you run them through a solid state amp it just sounds like a more distorted solid state amp. Tube tone comes from a TUBE amp. I'm not here to bash this video but if you buy a $150 amp, and that $250 preamp, you now have $400 in a rig that just isn't worth it. With the right shopping and research you can find a small tube amp for $400 and have all that rich tone without having to have 2 separate units. This is just my input
pwallace5921 3 years ago
I've been using a Peavey TG Raxx preamp thru the effects loop in my Flextone for about 8 years now and it does incredible things for the tone and punch...very, very convincing tone. And I have tube amps too so that is an unbiased opinion. I also have a short clip on You Tube if you want to check it out...Cheers!
238839 3 years ago
hi dave how close is the sound to best tube Amplifiers like Mrshals amps, pls answer honestly pls, thanks
bryantherocker 3 years ago
The tube buffer gives a more tube-like sound to SS amps but there's no way it would sound better than a good full tube amp.
sodazman 3 years ago
Biasing is what you need a guitar tech to do to the new power tubes when you replace them.
You need to adjust the amount of power that goes through the tubes. Tubes vary, so they need to be adjusted. It's very dangerous to do it yourself, as there are very high voltages involved. Don't try it at home.
Too much power will shorten the life of the tubes, and not enough will weaken the sound.
Turtlehands 3 years ago
nevermind
redbird963 3 years ago
Do you have to use this through the effects loop?
redbird963 3 years ago
Yes, since the tube processor is not powered you want to run it through the effects loop. Grant Fidelity os working on another that produces power too - stay tuned
rock on!
DT
rockongoodpeople 3 years ago
thanks
redbird963 3 years ago
whats biasing? and how often and why do you have to replace tubes?
jennafan14 3 years ago
you have to replace tubes because you can blow them if you don't eventually replace them
travman102 3 years ago
I want that strat.
Krankenstein25 3 years ago
Less talk, more play - we can figure it out if we buy one. Tanks!
74LesPaul 3 years ago
wonderwall much dave? lol
travman102 3 years ago
ha lol
jennafan14 3 years ago
DAVE YOU RULE MAN!!!
sindrec8 3 years ago
I love you guys. Keep it up!
FreshHareUSA 3 years ago
my dad made that magic box!!!! i am his daughter!!i am famous
AcroPunk449A 3 years ago
Hey Dave,
Excellent review man! My amp doesn't have an effects loop though. Is it possible to plug the processor in between the guitar and the amp?
If you can confirm it that will be good. :)
sodazman 3 years ago
No - the processor does not create power so go through the effects loop. Grant Fidelity is working on a powered one - hopefully coming soon.
rock on!
DT
rockongoodpeople 3 years ago
Thanks for your reply Dave. Rock on! :)
sodazman 3 years ago
what is biasing david? and how often and why do you have to replace tubes
jennafan14 3 years ago
tube amp biasing is like setting the idle speed adjustement of the tube amp - a necessary maintanence item for most tube amps. Rock on!
DT
rockongoodpeople 3 years ago
This B-283 tube processor doesn't request biasing. Tubes are 6J1 - easy to find and about $10 each / $20 a pair. We provide 90 days warranty. Usually tubes if survive first 90 days, they have 10,000 hours life expectancy.
grantfidelity 3 years ago
Nice. Sounds like you could pull of some nice EVH tones with that badboy.
LuisWahWah 3 years ago
Fender Hot Rod series...
Best tube for the money.
HadesWTF 3 years ago
its a nice amp, but doesnt get much drive
tylerdwells 3 years ago
Hey david, I love your videos, and I was wondering could you guys review a small tube amp for practicing and small gigs? I love that tube amp sound, but I don't have the money to spend on something like a blues junior. Thanks
08MXZX 3 years ago 2
yes, more small amp reviews coming so please stay tuned.
rock on!
DT
rockongoodpeople 3 years ago
Hi there,
Great vid and very nice guitar, is it a strat? The middle pick-up seems to be missing or maybe I can't see it on the vid thinking of getting a humbucker on mine at the bridge wired so i can have a single coil also any suggestions for a blues kinda sound?
Any suggestions would be good, thanks
Bluebuthappy182 3 years ago
Hi - yes, in this lesson I am using a USA made Fender BIG APPLE stratocaster - the guitar comes stock with 2 seymore duncan humbuckers - Fender only made this model for a couple of years in the mid 90s.
rock oN!
DT
rockongoodpeople 3 years ago
can u do a review on the LINE 6 PODs, XT LIVE, X3 LIVE
thanks
imit 3 years ago
Will this unit takes 220V-240V current?
GiGaMoG 3 years ago
We are working on a 220V version. Current stock all in 110V. Will announce on our site once 220V available.
grantfidelity 3 years ago
approximately how long is it going to take?
dddelft 3 years ago
I am trying to get a shipment in by mid of December. Just in time for Christmas. Stay tuned at our official website - shipment arrival will be announced once it is in.
grantfidelity 3 years ago
ive got a line6 spiderIII 75 watt, all i would need is the small thing on top of that randall?
Celmer77 3 years ago