Why I love the Hitman games..was that it was just soo innovative..as compared to other games or shooter games..with Absolution it seems they have murdered the innovativeness of the previous games.
I agree completely!!...Hitman:Blood Money truly defined what 47 is and defined what a stealth game and an assassin should be like...the choices,the freedom,...wow.Hitman Absolution..will probably be the Dragon Age 2 of the Hitman series :(
Im just going to say one thing, that good ol gamers will understand, is something from the absolution gameplay: "20 gunammo picked up". (wtf!!!!!????)
How about instead of complaining about pre-emptive things, we have faith in IO and Square Enix and wait for the game before we criticise it? As fans, they deserve that much.
thought there was still a seed of hope, but found out blake dexter isn't the new "agent 47" as I initially assumed; so much for the movie not fucking the game series up'(... agree about your comments on open endedness.... I spent hours looking how to play the game based on various patterns/glitches(till I got the perfect kills, like clock work;P)
in my humble opinion, the very vital ones is the basic gameplay,,the basic hardcore gameplay thats what we want, that is the crucial part of hitman origin
we'll see the gameplay first when come out, if not like the previous series, so we can say absolution is piece of shit, boycott the game & throw the game to trash,,
I could live without Bateson and Kyd if the geameplay was right but, doesn't seem it will be. And to all those people saying "You fear change, you just want like a mission pack for Blood Money", well... yes, that's all I want, since BM worked so great.
By the way, I heard that the original team that developed Hitman 1-4 left IO after BM, does anyone know WHERE they went, I mean if they joined another studio or something? We also need a freeware fan-made Hitman Clone urgently.
I didn't like the first three Splinter Cell games. Even if I hided in the shadow they would still find me. Hitman: Blood Money is one of the best games I've played. The other ones were probably pretty good for it's time, but Blood Money is the only old stealth game that i would see as brilliant.
Honestly I think what is most appealing about Blood Money is that you're basically just let loose in a huge playground, missions can be achieved any number of ways for your own enjoyment, with the new 15 minute demo I'm not sure what to think. I realize it was largely action oriented to appeal to people watching, but if they can actually recapture that feeling in this new game I'll probably pick it up.
It still sucks that Kyd and the gang are gone, they left a hole quite large.
@oudo64 I absolutely agree, for me, one of the high points of the game was stalking the target with beautiful music guiding me along the way, my hopes are not high on absolution, but like everything, we'll see how it turns out.
I completely agree with you Haddock, this game seems very disgusting since it's deviating from the originals. I can't even think about buying it without, at least, Bateson's voice...
I don;t like the fact that they took Dave out...the new actor sounds like some generic American macho man....I don't like the sound of the checkpoint system either....
500 letters isn't probably enough but I'll try: First off, I felt exactly the way you did. But after several weeks and a closer look again, I'm gaining hope again. Most worrying about Instinct is seeing through walls. But you can't use it forever, and I'd bet you won't be able to use it much on higher difficulties. Mark&Exec doesn't seem confirmed yet? Early demos have always been actiony, and the linearity maybe in part due to a dev showing the game off. David is a huge shame thou :'(
All the footage and or pictures we have seen is agent 47 in absolution is about him attacking armed policemen and in the night. I was astounded an interviewer had to ask if there were any daytime missions. I think there are two ways of playing hitman. The tactical approach which usually ends up for the people armed and looking to kill you. And the silent approach which is just...well it's just hitman. Instinct could work out, you never know. I do agree with hardcore gamers. Damn casual gamers.
You nailed alot of stuff in this video.. Respect. Me, myself i'm danish.. And if the new hitman game turns out to be shit embarrasment will kill me... They can't screw this up, but from this video you explain things in a good way.. So actually i'm no longer "Dying" to play this..
I was incredibly disappointed when I found out that Jesper Kyd won't be returning. I think he is, without a doubt, one of the best composers alive, and his style will definitely be missed.
Oh god im so sorry i watched this vid...But thanks for telling me that David will not be agent 47. They lost my money right there. Fu*k em. And i agree with everything you say. Its exactly like Splinter Cell has been ruined. No stealth, more action, gameplay dumbed down, and now they even screw over the original actor? IO i am ashamed.
Yes I will. They actually put an effort into the game. Name another single game in a series where they worked 5 years to create new a physics engine for a specific game.. You can't say absolution won't be a step up from the previous hitman games that's for sure.
And please don't fall prey to the hype regarding a new physics engine. It's like saying people played Half Life 2 for the see saw puzzles implemented. It's a nice feature, but it's surely not enough to excuse some of the frightening things they've put up for the public eye.
Regardless, it's your opinion and I won't try to ruin the game for you, I hope you can enjoy it; I hope I enjoy it as well when it comes, but right now I'm very uncertain
My opinion is... I think the game will be amazing. New design, brand new ai and physics engine, over 15 hours of small side story details and dialog? Im buying it!
It's funny how so many developers hype their product nowadays with the same tired buzz words and language, almost verbatim: "We want our game to be more accessible....BUT..." There's a saying that anything someone says after "but" is meaningless. As an oldschool gamer, I'm tired and disappointed in the industry's direction to cater toward the lowest common denominator. We speak with our wallets and unfortunately, this shit still sells. Just look at Transformers3's success. Enough said.
Agree 100% with you man, being a huge fan of the Splinter Cell series, I was pissed with what they did to it when making Conviction. You can't do 100% stealth playthroughs in that game, can't hide bodies, no nightvision, no thermal vision, no keypads, no hacking, no split jump, bizarre crouching animation, stupid mark and execute mode. I hope Eidos doesn't do the same with Hitman Absolution.
My name is Phill. AKA Coflash and I approve of this message.
They have no right to dumb down a series that has nothing to do with them. They tried their ideas, look how they turned out. Applying them to a successful series is only going to compound their failures. It's too bad idiot casual gamers will lap this accessible turd up.
I'm glad you agree, and if it's alright with you I'd like you to send this video to as many concerned gamers as you can. We need to get the message out as best we can regarding this subject, especially around the hardcore fanbase.
I don't expect anything to happen, but there's no fault in trying to get some attention to the issue.
uhmmmm you make some good points, especially about that instinct sight bullcrap. What the heck are they thinking with that shit... it will ruin everything.
This seems to be happening with every game out there, spoon feeding you. And games where they don't spoon feed you (metro2033), idiots complain that the levels are bad designed as you get stuck too often, wtf?
thsi new decade will b awfull to old gamers, they will ruin metal gear, they kinda messed gran turismo(but still best racer out there), they ill ruin hitman, and im pretty sure the next grand theft auto will suck, they will ruin driver even more, they ill ruin spec ops( i dont know if u played it, i used to love it for ps1) and battlefield they already ruined it but battlefield 3 will be even worst...i think i will have to just grow up and forget videogaming
I think you, TheTrueHaddock, should just abandon IO and find yourself a different stealth series to enjoy. Absolution will definitely not be what you want it to be, but I for one will buy and enjoy it :)
@veipper nice attempt to troll. max payne 2 is one of the worst scripted games in the world. MAX?? MAX????? MAX?? that iss 99% of the speech. oh yeah and NICE ENDING seriously that last boss fight is laughable
You never played Red Dead, Assassin's Creed (mostly the last two), Mass Effect, Splinter Cell (earlier), Arkham Asylum, Metal Gear Solid (any of them), Uncharted 2, or any of those did you? And Fallout 3/Vegas and Oblivion are both 3rd person accessible.
I'm only guessing you're a Call of Doodie: Crap Ops kind of guy. Give me ANYTHING listed above over garbage like that.
hey, (if you get this reference i give you cookie) you forgot , when killing little timmy, throwing out a mine in front of him, equiping the detonator and blow him SKY FUCKING HIGH!!!!!!!, yeah... *epic guitar music plays*
Why I love the Hitman games..was that it was just soo innovative..as compared to other games or shooter games..with Absolution it seems they have murdered the innovativeness of the previous games.
TheWitchking123 5 days ago
I agree completely!!...Hitman:Blood Money truly defined what 47 is and defined what a stealth game and an assassin should be like...the choices,the freedom,...wow.Hitman Absolution..will probably be the Dragon Age 2 of the Hitman series :(
TheWitchking123 5 days ago
Im just going to say one thing, that good ol gamers will understand, is something from the absolution gameplay: "20 gunammo picked up". (wtf!!!!!????)
zulu789456 6 days ago
How about instead of complaining about pre-emptive things, we have faith in IO and Square Enix and wait for the game before we criticise it? As fans, they deserve that much.
Carlotso25 2 weeks ago
thought there was still a seed of hope, but found out blake dexter isn't the new "agent 47" as I initially assumed; so much for the movie not fucking the game series up'(... agree about your comments on open endedness.... I spent hours looking how to play the game based on various patterns/glitches(till I got the perfect kills, like clock work;P)
plasmar1 2 weeks ago
Hey BATESON!.. Jesper KYD are you here?.. Probably not..
I'm sorry folks, but this game will be NOTHING without them!.. Sorry but it's the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have the feeling that this game will suck.. I'll tear myself in Shame, CMON DENMARK!
RuneFun12 3 weeks ago
in my humble opinion, the very vital ones is the basic gameplay,,the basic hardcore gameplay thats what we want, that is the crucial part of hitman origin
we'll see the gameplay first when come out, if not like the previous series, so we can say absolution is piece of shit, boycott the game & throw the game to trash,,
aconda47 3 weeks ago
I could live without Bateson and Kyd if the geameplay was right but, doesn't seem it will be. And to all those people saying "You fear change, you just want like a mission pack for Blood Money", well... yes, that's all I want, since BM worked so great.
By the way, I heard that the original team that developed Hitman 1-4 left IO after BM, does anyone know WHERE they went, I mean if they joined another studio or something? We also need a freeware fan-made Hitman Clone urgently.
DarcMiesNR 4 weeks ago
Its Hitman Made In China
InkDropFalls 1 month ago
Yes you hit the nail on the head ..............Stop listening to the trolls that think there fans hitman
InkDropFalls 1 month ago
Have you seen the new trailer yet? it pretty much confirms both yours and my fears.
Hitman: Absaloution is shit.
PurpleStorm8 2 months ago 4
I didn't like the first three Splinter Cell games. Even if I hided in the shadow they would still find me. Hitman: Blood Money is one of the best games I've played. The other ones were probably pretty good for it's time, but Blood Money is the only old stealth game that i would see as brilliant.
dan98y 2 months ago 2
@dan98y
Honestly I think what is most appealing about Blood Money is that you're basically just let loose in a huge playground, missions can be achieved any number of ways for your own enjoyment, with the new 15 minute demo I'm not sure what to think. I realize it was largely action oriented to appeal to people watching, but if they can actually recapture that feeling in this new game I'll probably pick it up.
It still sucks that Kyd and the gang are gone, they left a hole quite large.
TheTrueHaddock 2 months ago 3
this isn't HITMAN there is no any more mysterious/lonely feeling which i used to get in BM instead i get action game FUCK EIDOS FUCK YOU !
TheAgol07 2 months ago
@oudo64 I absolutely agree, for me, one of the high points of the game was stalking the target with beautiful music guiding me along the way, my hopes are not high on absolution, but like everything, we'll see how it turns out.
finnishforrestkablow 2 months ago
I agree with you :)
mindarinas 3 months ago
Hitman 2 was the fucking best!
blank3412 4 months ago 2
I completely agree with you Haddock, this game seems very disgusting since it's deviating from the originals. I can't even think about buying it without, at least, Bateson's voice...
xpkxheeling 4 months ago
I don;t like the fact that they took Dave out...the new actor sounds like some generic American macho man....I don't like the sound of the checkpoint system either....
metalmario298 4 months ago
500 letters isn't probably enough but I'll try: First off, I felt exactly the way you did. But after several weeks and a closer look again, I'm gaining hope again. Most worrying about Instinct is seeing through walls. But you can't use it forever, and I'd bet you won't be able to use it much on higher difficulties. Mark&Exec doesn't seem confirmed yet? Early demos have always been actiony, and the linearity maybe in part due to a dev showing the game off. David is a huge shame thou :'(
biograndfather 4 months ago
This is going to make alot of people angry, and alot of 12 year olds happy
hypermonkey13 6 months ago 5
@hypermonkey13
My video, or Hitman?
TheTrueHaddock 6 months ago 4
@TheTrueHaddock Hitman.
hypermonkey13 6 months ago
..I AGREE!!!!! Damn noobs! who cares for their needs, I want the challenge that Hitman games bring..
MakeYourLifeWork 6 months ago
no original voice - no hitman , no sales , no money . Tell it to the stupid developers before they ruin their game
raaboh 6 months ago
All the footage and or pictures we have seen is agent 47 in absolution is about him attacking armed policemen and in the night. I was astounded an interviewer had to ask if there were any daytime missions. I think there are two ways of playing hitman. The tactical approach which usually ends up for the people armed and looking to kill you. And the silent approach which is just...well it's just hitman. Instinct could work out, you never know. I do agree with hardcore gamers. Damn casual gamers.
WHATISWRONGWITHYOUPE 7 months ago
How can you say any of this? Do you have some kind of instinct power yourself or can i rest easy tonight?
WHATISWRONGWITHYOUPE 7 months ago
@WHATISWRONGWITHYOUPE
You can not sleep easy tonight.
TheTrueHaddock 7 months ago 5
You nailed alot of stuff in this video.. Respect. Me, myself i'm danish.. And if the new hitman game turns out to be shit embarrasment will kill me... They can't screw this up, but from this video you explain things in a good way.. So actually i'm no longer "Dying" to play this..
Time shall come..
RuneFun12 7 months ago 2
@RuneFun12 time is truth
WHATISWRONGWITHYOUPE 7 months ago 2
I was incredibly disappointed when I found out that Jesper Kyd won't be returning. I think he is, without a doubt, one of the best composers alive, and his style will definitely be missed.
oudo64 7 months ago
Haddock, I live right next to the IO Interactive headquarters in Copenhagen.
I'm considering downloading your fine rant (which I agree with, by the way), and burn it down on a DVD.
Then, I'll just slip the DVD into their mailbox, and let them see this.
Shnishnugar 7 months ago 6
@Shnishnugar
You have my support 110%
TheTrueHaddock 7 months ago 5
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lovec0 6 months ago
@TheTrueHaddock
Oh god im so sorry i watched this vid...But thanks for telling me that David will not be agent 47. They lost my money right there. Fu*k em. And i agree with everything you say. Its exactly like Splinter Cell has been ruined. No stealth, more action, gameplay dumbed down, and now they even screw over the original actor? IO i am ashamed.
lovec0 6 months ago
cnt wait for this game :D :L
m1ntje 7 months ago
The developers should see that video.
CarbonGR 7 months ago 4
Haha we will just have to wait and see. You better get the game though and make a game review video haha whatever the outcome
MrBrad3n 8 months ago
Yes I will. They actually put an effort into the game. Name another single game in a series where they worked 5 years to create new a physics engine for a specific game.. You can't say absolution won't be a step up from the previous hitman games that's for sure.
MrBrad3n 8 months ago
@MrBrad3n
Actually I spent 9:44 minutes saying it.
And please don't fall prey to the hype regarding a new physics engine. It's like saying people played Half Life 2 for the see saw puzzles implemented. It's a nice feature, but it's surely not enough to excuse some of the frightening things they've put up for the public eye.
Regardless, it's your opinion and I won't try to ruin the game for you, I hope you can enjoy it; I hope I enjoy it as well when it comes, but right now I'm very uncertain
TheTrueHaddock 8 months ago
My opinion is... I think the game will be amazing. New design, brand new ai and physics engine, over 15 hours of small side story details and dialog? Im buying it!
MrBrad3n 8 months ago
@MrBrad3n
Alright, enjoy 15 hours of "small side story details."
TheTrueHaddock 8 months ago
1337 viewer...hell yeah :D
kamikazipyro1 8 months ago
It's funny how so many developers hype their product nowadays with the same tired buzz words and language, almost verbatim: "We want our game to be more accessible....BUT..." There's a saying that anything someone says after "but" is meaningless. As an oldschool gamer, I'm tired and disappointed in the industry's direction to cater toward the lowest common denominator. We speak with our wallets and unfortunately, this shit still sells. Just look at Transformers3's success. Enough said.
xtrackt 8 months ago
Agree 100% with you man, being a huge fan of the Splinter Cell series, I was pissed with what they did to it when making Conviction. You can't do 100% stealth playthroughs in that game, can't hide bodies, no nightvision, no thermal vision, no keypads, no hacking, no split jump, bizarre crouching animation, stupid mark and execute mode. I hope Eidos doesn't do the same with Hitman Absolution.
UnwillingOrigins 8 months ago
I like cake.
Saiblade 8 months ago
No Bateson, No Kyd and designed for Conviction audience.
How the mighty have fallen...
Dragonbonemail 8 months ago 19
My name is Phill. AKA Coflash and I approve of this message.
They have no right to dumb down a series that has nothing to do with them. They tried their ideas, look how they turned out. Applying them to a successful series is only going to compound their failures. It's too bad idiot casual gamers will lap this accessible turd up.
phillcoflash 8 months ago
@phillcoflash
I'm glad you agree, and if it's alright with you I'd like you to send this video to as many concerned gamers as you can. We need to get the message out as best we can regarding this subject, especially around the hardcore fanbase.
I don't expect anything to happen, but there's no fault in trying to get some attention to the issue.
TheTrueHaddock 8 months ago
@phillcoflash
Colflash :D Is it true you got banned on Hitmanforum?
spindle12 8 months ago
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phillcoflash 8 months ago
good points. only crit is that you have a gay man's lisp.
zackhanscom 8 months ago
@zackhanscom
I guess my girl hasn't noticed yet. Don't tell her, okay?
TheTrueHaddock 8 months ago
uhmmmm you make some good points, especially about that instinct sight bullcrap. What the heck are they thinking with that shit... it will ruin everything.
This seems to be happening with every game out there, spoon feeding you. And games where they don't spoon feed you (metro2033), idiots complain that the levels are bad designed as you get stuck too often, wtf?
Stealth3 8 months ago
For me the most important concern is David Bateson. Let's hope he comes back.
ignatei 8 months ago
thsi new decade will b awfull to old gamers, they will ruin metal gear, they kinda messed gran turismo(but still best racer out there), they ill ruin hitman, and im pretty sure the next grand theft auto will suck, they will ruin driver even more, they ill ruin spec ops( i dont know if u played it, i used to love it for ps1) and battlefield they already ruined it but battlefield 3 will be even worst...i think i will have to just grow up and forget videogaming
mauricio210 8 months ago
I think you, TheTrueHaddock, should just abandon IO and find yourself a different stealth series to enjoy. Absolution will definitely not be what you want it to be, but I for one will buy and enjoy it :)
Rapidhawx 8 months ago
If Bateson is back I don't care about the scripted events etc
spindle12 8 months ago
Didn't this happen to Splinter Cell Conviction?
StarAdder92 8 months ago
"We want Call of Duty's audience"
Moue666 8 months ago
At least the Hitman Absolution trailer looked cool.
commandershepard13 8 months ago
@DreadsideNubune Ok, so you don't like any third person games and you don't play fps... Well, then you must play fucking sudoku all fucking day.
THEOMGVIDEOZ 8 months ago
Still cant believe the Original Hitman voice actor wont voice 47 any more :(((
But I hope for the best!
boriska808 8 months ago
@boriska808
All we can do is hope for the best.
TheTrueHaddock 8 months ago
at the end of Blood Money, what was 47 doing at the shady Chinese place?
ASDFG8732 8 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
9 minute rant on an unfinished game and 30 second gameplay demo.
When you've played it, you get to badmouth it.
Shad0wack 8 months ago
@Shad0wack
That's what they told me about Splinter Cell: Conviction.
That's what they told me about Kane and Lynch 2
You know, I'm getting a little too used to this.
TheTrueHaddock 8 months ago 21
@Shad0wack Conviction, Kane and Lynch 2, Ghost Recon, Oblivion, Skyrim, Commandos, Rainbow Six
garus00 8 months ago
you are 100% right
ASDFG8732 8 months ago
of corse it will be shit every 3rd person game is shit
DreadsideNubune 8 months ago
@DreadsideNubune Twat.
ItsBiwiPwice 8 months ago
@ItsBiwiPwice name a good 3rd person game. GTA? LOL YEAH NICE. that game sucks. i suppose u think hitman will be good. play a real game
DreadsideNubune 8 months ago
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ItsBiwiPwice 8 months ago
@ItsBiwiPwice what gam er u referring to then?? i dotn play fps so dotn even know what u talking about
DreadsideNubune 8 months ago
@DreadsideNubune Max Payne 1 and 2.
veipper 8 months ago
@veipper nice attempt to troll. max payne 2 is one of the worst scripted games in the world. MAX?? MAX????? MAX?? that iss 99% of the speech. oh yeah and NICE ENDING seriously that last boss fight is laughable
DreadsideNubune 8 months ago
@DreadsideNubune -1/10
veipper 8 months ago
@veipper so u seriosuly think max payne 2 is a good game. are you a fucking idiot
DreadsideNubune 8 months ago
@DreadsideNubune La No-Fucking-oire, get a life and stop commentating on this video, fucktard.
rulejordan5 8 months ago
@rulejordan5 lets see how much ir playing it in 2 months
DreadsideNubune 8 months ago
@DreadsideNubune
All 3rd person games suck?
You never played Red Dead, Assassin's Creed (mostly the last two), Mass Effect, Splinter Cell (earlier), Arkham Asylum, Metal Gear Solid (any of them), Uncharted 2, or any of those did you? And Fallout 3/Vegas and Oblivion are both 3rd person accessible.
I'm only guessing you're a Call of Doodie: Crap Ops kind of guy. Give me ANYTHING listed above over garbage like that.
BlankVanHelsing 8 months ago
hey, (if you get this reference i give you cookie) you forgot , when killing little timmy, throwing out a mine in front of him, equiping the detonator and blow him SKY FUCKING HIGH!!!!!!!, yeah... *epic guitar music plays*
shotguhn 8 months ago