or not spend any money and use your oil dip stick, find cyl number 1- remove spark plug - use your oil dip stick, and stick it down the cyl whole- have a buddy turn the crank - there dtc and bdc. bdc will push the oil stick up and almost all the way. but if you keep turning the crank will see the tdc will push the oil stick a lil more and bam.... free...
stick anything into the sparkplug hole of a 4.3 and about the only thing you hit is the opposite cylinder wall. Believe me, I tried all the obvious methods that have been used for decades. I needed something very accurate and something that I could do on my own.
@chrisbuffoni Thanks for the comment. Actually, I had the throttle wired open do to a subsequent test - I made a simple adaptor to connect my air compressor to the intake of the motor. I pressurized the intake to 20lbs (my boost level) in order to check for leaks in all vac lines and intake gaskets. It's simple but effective.
Yup, that's easy if the engine is on a stand where you can turn it over slowly and easily. The only thing you can get on to turn the engine over on these is the alternator nut and then it doesn't turn over easily - even with all the plugs out. The plug angle on these motors makes it difficult to use a piston stop or standard tdc indicator.
Thanks for this great idea. I was just checking the Dwyer website and wondered which specific model manometer you are using? Looks like this question was asked but no answer appears. Thanks again.
Thanks for this great idea. I was just checking the Dwyer website and wondered which specific model manometer you are using? Looks like this question was asked but no answer appears. Thanks again!
illkron.... the TDC tools don't work worth a darn on the 4.3 GM V6 due to sparkplug angle.
fiddlerpin and yz250... using the guess method of setting timing doesn't work on a turbo motor where you're running 20psi of boost, and where the ECM controls timing. Base timing has to be set correctly.
408champ... I have no idea how your method could work... total BS based on CR, etc.
I have a Dwyer Manometer for gas pressure reading. I use a screwdriver to find TDC Don't need to find TDC just adjust the distributer for the best engine operation. If you knock then move it a little at a time till its right.
u coulda just had somebody turn the motor over with a special tool (i forget what its called) then put ur finger over the whole for the #1 piston then when u feel a decient amount of air come through thats tdc
As creative as this is, you could have gotten a dial indicator. Interesting none-the-less.
xxLiquidX 4 months ago
@xxLiquidX
Yup, dial indicators work great for certain motors.. not for the 4.3 though, unless you've got the heads off :)
wyosyclone 4 months ago
or not spend any money and use your oil dip stick, find cyl number 1- remove spark plug - use your oil dip stick, and stick it down the cyl whole- have a buddy turn the crank - there dtc and bdc. bdc will push the oil stick up and almost all the way. but if you keep turning the crank will see the tdc will push the oil stick a lil more and bam.... free...
Abbi325 4 months ago
@Abbi325
stick anything into the sparkplug hole of a 4.3 and about the only thing you hit is the opposite cylinder wall. Believe me, I tried all the obvious methods that have been used for decades. I needed something very accurate and something that I could do on my own.
wyosyclone 4 months ago
i sed this during my 96 civic head swap. i needed to find top dead center before removing the heads. thanks 1,000,000!!!!!!!!!!
lb90802 5 months ago
The easy way is by putting long screw driver on no 1 plug hole and turn the crankshaft. The piston will push the screw driver up to show TDC.
axenz1 5 months ago
This is genius, very creative! I'm also curious though, why did you wire the throttle open?
chrisbuffoni 6 months ago
@chrisbuffoni Thanks for the comment. Actually, I had the throttle wired open do to a subsequent test - I made a simple adaptor to connect my air compressor to the intake of the motor. I pressurized the intake to 20lbs (my boost level) in order to check for leaks in all vac lines and intake gaskets. It's simple but effective.
wyosyclone 6 months ago
That is really cool man. Doesn't help me any because i have a Civic but that is still awesome! lol
bitetyson 6 months ago
why did you wire open the throttle ? just curious
watchforfinger 8 months ago
Very nice. Now...all I need is a f-n MANOMETER!!!!!!!!
ort4815 1 year ago
@PITBULL35383
Yup, that's easy if the engine is on a stand where you can turn it over slowly and easily. The only thing you can get on to turn the engine over on these is the alternator nut and then it doesn't turn over easily - even with all the plugs out. The plug angle on these motors makes it difficult to use a piston stop or standard tdc indicator.
wyosyclone 1 year ago
Sorry for not answering that sooner.... it's a Dwyer 20-D.
wyosyclone 1 year ago
@wyosyclone
Okay, thanks.
gvjohn1 1 year ago
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Thanks for this great idea. I was just checking the Dwyer website and wondered which specific model manometer you are using? Looks like this question was asked but no answer appears. Thanks again.
gvjohn1 1 year ago
Thanks for this great idea. I was just checking the Dwyer website and wondered which specific model manometer you are using? Looks like this question was asked but no answer appears. Thanks again!
gvjohn1 1 year ago
You could also remove rocker cover and rotate crankshaft until the cylinders opposite valves are rocking, just a thought no need for fancy equipment
Jimi670 1 year ago
illkron.... the TDC tools don't work worth a darn on the 4.3 GM V6 due to sparkplug angle.
fiddlerpin and yz250... using the guess method of setting timing doesn't work on a turbo motor where you're running 20psi of boost, and where the ECM controls timing. Base timing has to be set correctly.
408champ... I have no idea how your method could work... total BS based on CR, etc.
wyosyclone 1 year ago
why not just use a top dead center tool? they are about $9 and the size of a spark plug.
illkron 1 year ago
I like it. very clever.
beercoolie 1 year ago
stick a screwdriver into the number 1 spark plug hole and turn the motor until the piston doesnt move at top
mbdalyricalmc 1 year ago
@mbdalyricalmc redneck
peugeot086 1 year ago
thanks. im trying to find tdc on a vw tdi. cant put a screwdriver in a sparkplug hole so this really helps.
mrShikadanse 1 year ago
I use a long chop stick in the spark plughole and rotate the cranck. thats all I have to sasy(forest gump)
maxestuardo 1 year ago
I have a Dwyer Manometer for gas pressure reading. I use a screwdriver to find TDC Don't need to find TDC just adjust the distributer for the best engine operation. If you knock then move it a little at a time till its right.
fiddlerpin 2 years ago
u coulda just had somebody turn the motor over with a special tool (i forget what its called) then put ur finger over the whole for the #1 piston then when u feel a decient amount of air come through thats tdc
yz250frider1 2 years ago
put a thin bar in the plug hole. esy
Mrhellsy 2 years ago
very cool idea
JakeyDPhotography 2 years ago
well if u buy a timing tab it only bolts up in one spot i dont think u need all this to find tdc and all balancer have a timing slot
camaro4542u 2 years ago
a screw driver works great to. just trying to save u all the bull
Missshylow22 2 years ago
is this guy a scientist what the hell is that just turn the belt use a piston stop adjust start it and done dork way to cut up the gauge
ajpunisher666 2 years ago
What ever happened to an old fashion piston stop ?
BobW57 2 years ago 2
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BobW57 2 years ago
What model Dwyer manometer is this?
What do you have it mounted to... it looks like a floor lamp?
JonBanquer 3 years ago
Yup, my wife's floor lamp... it was handy! :)
wyosyclone 2 years ago
u did all that when u could of just done a pressure gauge test... i think 15psi is tdc
408champ 3 years ago
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diaperdusty8109 3 years ago