well, if you work at American Eagle, you're a first officer for 15 years making max 34K a year, but when you get promoted you get about 6 figures. why is it better then working at mesa, sure better pay, but AE has much better conditions to work under.
by n by, if you didn't know, those charts with first year capt pay, thats if you've been flying for a year. if your a 7 year pilot with Mesa n getting promoted next year, you start with 8th year Capt. Pay. so first year capt pay varies, never set.
What are the chances of a buyout of Mesa? It sounds as though there has been a lot of mismanagement. Now they've gotten out of a lot of their leases and other expenses because of the bankruptcy - so I would think that Mesa might be an attractive target for another regional carrier to acquire. Or what about an employee (current and former) buyout?
Add 20 day/month on the road for this crappy money and half a million debt with interest. People need to know that their pilots make less than high school drop outs but their CEO's had a 900% pay increase since 9/11. Pilots took 50% pay cuts, CEO's took 900% increase.
@Outsourcingfighter not only that, but remember the prices for everything went up, but pilot pay stayed the same or got lower.
now 20 years ago, you could make an okay living for 35,000 dollar pay if you flew b/w NYC and Newark as an FO, you could afford decent living, now a days you could barely live in a Condo with that much money, not to mention other extreme costs for living, like buying food, gym memberships, GAS prices, Insurance etc etc.
Hey dumbasses, check out when i made this. Back then, pilots were still making decent money. And those figures were the most mesa would pay for those given years. now mesa is bankrupt, and the economy is shit. I hate mesa just as much as the rest of you. You're better off working at mcdonalds.
To the guy who posted this video, you must be on drugs. I was at mesa air website, and the salary raise you depict in the video is absolute LIE! jonathan ornstein of mesa is a filthy prick.
Im sorry, did you just say Mesa "pays off at the end". Are you out of your FUCKING mind? Im an EX-mesa pilot who quit without another job lined up in the worst economy since the great depression because I found out how bad they were after getting hired. If you think of working for this company.... RUN LIKE HELL!!!!!
I used to fly for them and I never made anything near that. As a captain with 5 years seniority I was taking home about $300 - $500 every two weeks after regular taxes.
Thanx Mesa for the United Ex. CPA we just won here at Ex. Jet. My job security just went way up and to think, I paid $50 to interview with you guys and did not get get hired. Again - THANK YOU!!
I go to bed preying one of two things, JO and crew suffer a painful death soon or mesa dies all together and I dont even fly for them. They bring the rest of us down though.
im sooo glad i went the CRNA route 7-3:30 m-f no weekends no holidays 11 weeks paid vaca call is 1:5 with the next day off and paid for and did i mention i started out at 160,000 as a new grad and right now im at 310,000 and rae lynn told me I was crazy for leaving the program!!! LOL what a joke!!! at least im laughing all the way to the bank!!! LOL Mesa can go suck t!!!
wow crazy, same here, I joined back in aug of 02 and left after the second week of I1, Lynn and andrea tried to convince me to stay on, soooo glad I didnt , never the less I feel sorry for the boys and girls who stayed on, wonder how the'r doing? poor suckers.
btay801 You are very right in what you said. I worked for Airnet Express and I have seen these whinning pilots that get into this situation. Funny thing about this i was making more money as a Driver vs 3 year right seat of Lear Jet pilot
Those are astonomical figures as apposed to A & P mechanics that are making your airplanes airworthy. We make jack and when there is a problem, (in the air or not) the FAA comes down on us. And on top of all this our pilot group has taken our jumpseat approval away. Every A& P has the right to ride jumpseat with their AIRMAN CERTIFICATE.
Two replies to this, first off the song is by M.I.A. not MGMT as another poster claimed. Secondly these pay scales/rates are obsolete. Pay has gone up substantially since this was created. Am I saying come work for Mesa? No, but the figures in this video are WAY off. I'm a 3rd year FO at Mesa making almost $50,000 so something has to be wrong.
thats your fault for taking out all those loans, don't try to get sympathy from us. If you can't afford to pay them back then don't take them out. BTW you knew what the salary was before you got into this. Shame on you for not doing your homework then whining after the fact. The majors have only hired a couple years out of the last entire decade. Anyone who takes out a huge loan for this career is a moron who deserves the payment he gets stuck with
well, if you work at American Eagle, you're a first officer for 15 years making max 34K a year, but when you get promoted you get about 6 figures. why is it better then working at mesa, sure better pay, but AE has much better conditions to work under.
by n by, if you didn't know, those charts with first year capt pay, thats if you've been flying for a year. if your a 7 year pilot with Mesa n getting promoted next year, you start with 8th year Capt. Pay. so first year capt pay varies, never set.
Sharod101 1 year ago
What are the chances of a buyout of Mesa? It sounds as though there has been a lot of mismanagement. Now they've gotten out of a lot of their leases and other expenses because of the bankruptcy - so I would think that Mesa might be an attractive target for another regional carrier to acquire. Or what about an employee (current and former) buyout?
redletterchurch 1 year ago
Add 20 day/month on the road for this crappy money and half a million debt with interest. People need to know that their pilots make less than high school drop outs but their CEO's had a 900% pay increase since 9/11. Pilots took 50% pay cuts, CEO's took 900% increase.
Outsourcingfighter 1 year ago
@Outsourcingfighter not only that, but remember the prices for everything went up, but pilot pay stayed the same or got lower.
now 20 years ago, you could make an okay living for 35,000 dollar pay if you flew b/w NYC and Newark as an FO, you could afford decent living, now a days you could barely live in a Condo with that much money, not to mention other extreme costs for living, like buying food, gym memberships, GAS prices, Insurance etc etc.
20 years ago, it was ok, today no.
Sharod101 1 year ago
Hey dumbasses, check out when i made this. Back then, pilots were still making decent money. And those figures were the most mesa would pay for those given years. now mesa is bankrupt, and the economy is shit. I hate mesa just as much as the rest of you. You're better off working at mcdonalds.
ninjafacecake 1 year ago
To the guy who posted this video, you must be on drugs. I was at mesa air website, and the salary raise you depict in the video is absolute LIE! jonathan ornstein of mesa is a filthy prick.
dingoklectos 1 year ago
Im sorry, did you just say Mesa "pays off at the end". Are you out of your FUCKING mind? Im an EX-mesa pilot who quit without another job lined up in the worst economy since the great depression because I found out how bad they were after getting hired. If you think of working for this company.... RUN LIKE HELL!!!!!
captainjman1976 1 year ago
Johnathan Ornstein if you can read this, SUCK MY ASS!!!!
ejuoi 1 year ago
mesa sucks
flyboy6753 1 year ago
...and yes, that music is making me nauseous, too.
TableAvocado 2 years ago
I used to fly for them and I never made anything near that. As a captain with 5 years seniority I was taking home about $300 - $500 every two weeks after regular taxes.
TableAvocado 2 years ago
Thanx Mesa for the United Ex. CPA we just won here at Ex. Jet. My job security just went way up and to think, I paid $50 to interview with you guys and did not get get hired. Again - THANK YOU!!
boog567 2 years ago
I go to bed preying one of two things, JO and crew suffer a painful death soon or mesa dies all together and I dont even fly for them. They bring the rest of us down though.
Learjetjock 2 years ago
im sooo glad i went the CRNA route 7-3:30 m-f no weekends no holidays 11 weeks paid vaca call is 1:5 with the next day off and paid for and did i mention i started out at 160,000 as a new grad and right now im at 310,000 and rae lynn told me I was crazy for leaving the program!!! LOL what a joke!!! at least im laughing all the way to the bank!!! LOL Mesa can go suck t!!!
stetzpilot 2 years ago
wow crazy, same here, I joined back in aug of 02 and left after the second week of I1, Lynn and andrea tried to convince me to stay on, soooo glad I didnt , never the less I feel sorry for the boys and girls who stayed on, wonder how the'r doing? poor suckers.
bodidley70 1 year ago
I wish Mesa would go bankrupt. I really do.
MMSband737 2 years ago
they did!
krystalericalewis 1 year ago
3rd year FO at 50K.........LOL!!! After what, the lotter? Who you kiddin'?? Sure isn't me!
NCpilot79 2 years ago
btay801 You are very right in what you said. I worked for Airnet Express and I have seen these whinning pilots that get into this situation. Funny thing about this i was making more money as a Driver vs 3 year right seat of Lear Jet pilot
DRWVWVWVWVWVWVWVWVWV 2 years ago
Those are astonomical figures as apposed to A & P mechanics that are making your airplanes airworthy. We make jack and when there is a problem, (in the air or not) the FAA comes down on us. And on top of all this our pilot group has taken our jumpseat approval away. Every A& P has the right to ride jumpseat with their AIRMAN CERTIFICATE.
btay801 2 years ago
This music is so hurting my ears. Bad video for bad company, bad music, and for the worst CEO in the world.
bluebird787 2 years ago
This music is really hurting my eyes. Bad video for a bad music, bad company and for the worst CEO in the world ever.
bluebird787 2 years ago
Lame video for a really lame company. Kill J.O.
bluebird787 2 years ago
Two replies to this, first off the song is by M.I.A. not MGMT as another poster claimed. Secondly these pay scales/rates are obsolete. Pay has gone up substantially since this was created. Am I saying come work for Mesa? No, but the figures in this video are WAY off. I'm a 3rd year FO at Mesa making almost $50,000 so something has to be wrong.
nofxslc 2 years ago
thats your fault for taking out all those loans, don't try to get sympathy from us. If you can't afford to pay them back then don't take them out. BTW you knew what the salary was before you got into this. Shame on you for not doing your homework then whining after the fact. The majors have only hired a couple years out of the last entire decade. Anyone who takes out a huge loan for this career is a moron who deserves the payment he gets stuck with
Hobbes1999 3 years ago
Why did you have those pictures of Freedom Air. That isn't the Freedom air Mesa owns. The one they own has ERJ Aircraft
UAL3589 3 years ago 2
Lame video.
nofxslc 3 years ago
whats the song called?
TakeoffPartyLand 3 years ago
paper planes-MGMT
Taydrum 3 years ago
It's MIA not MGMT - way different.
J2Kubus 2 years ago
whoops my bad its MIA
Taydrum 2 years ago