Facile is criticizing those who fail to meet a heroic standard. Not all can be Knappertsbusch, spitting in Goebbel's face by asking if he was a "Mus Nazi", let alone a Marlene Dietrich, singing on behalf of the Allies against Hitler. The lack of such courage merely indicates a more ordinary human, 99% of whom cannot be heroes. It is enough to not be a Schwarzkopf, whose Nazi habits never seemed to stay accolades.
The conductor remained in Germany for several reasons: He feared the Nazis would imprison his mother; his orchestra was threatened with disbandment; many people, Jews and dissidents, depended upon his interventions; and most importantly, he could not accept Nazism as representative of the "true" Germany. I admit that I wish he had left, but for his own sake, not because I feel that he did wrong to others by staying.
By the way, from what I understand, Hitler did NOT attend this concert; I have read that Hitler refused to have anything further to do with Furtwaengler personally after 1937, calling him a "most unpleasant person." And also by the way, this was the only time he conducted on Hitler's birthday; he avoided it subsequently by getting a doctor's note to excuse him. As he was repeatedly negotiating to get people out of concentration camps, his "concessions" to Nazi demands are perhaps explainable.
Some beautiful things. But the chorus sound is spread and amateurish, the end is rushed and sounds out of control, and actually, I find his gestures non-specific and frantic. I don't get why he's such a legend.
@TheseusTex His interpretations of well known music gave the music a different meaning. Think Kleiber, Celibidace, Bernstein if you can say the same words about them all you are either trolling or should reconsider your career as a musician.
@TheseusTex@GGbreizh This was way before being a dancing clown was in vogue. I've played for so many idiots who think it's all in the "Conducting" aspect. as a result the principal violin and the oboe end up saving his ass.And the performance is together but generic. He's a legend not because he moves a certain way or even because of how clean the orchestra sounds.
@MegaDocalex His comments should not be removed because of the freedom of speech. If he wants to show his ignorance (and his foolishness) in front of hundreds of people, that's his right.
Cette version de la neuvième symphonie est simplement béatifique. Sublime. Cependant, je me passerais bien de la vue des croix gammées. Si Beethoven avait su qu'Hitler allait aimer son plus grand chef d'oeuvre, il se serait retourné dans sa tombe.
The only retards are people who support NAZIs and then weakly insist they're not NAZIs. One Jewish man liked "Furtwaengler"? Tell that to the millions who died while "Furtwaengler" entertained Goebbels with Beethoven!
@Grimgerde The only retards people are those who speak while they don't know. Fürtwangler was a great man who saved many Jews and who fight against the nazis. He risked his life several times by refusing to be part of propaganda. This performance is nothing but an indictment aginst the nazis.
Saying Fürtwangler is a nazy is like saying that Shostakovich was a great fan of Stalin. That's just ignorance.
God has the Mozart's Masses and Requiem , ( voices out of Heaven) , and the Brahms Requiem , and Mahler's Eight and .... and paganism has This ..... what a match !
LoonyDoll and Grimgerde have NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE GREATNESS OF CLASSICAL MUSIC! I have listened to this great music for 45 years since a teenager in Jersey City. Love the music/
The music of Beethoven and Wagner is greater than the small minds of idiots we got here. And a great conductor like Furtwangler, I prefer Otto Klemperer and George Szell, is also greater than these small minds of idiots we got like some LoonyDoll and her boyfriend Grimgerde. And Szell was also Jewish and conducted Wagner for years as conductor of the Cleveland Orchestra. See Arkiv Music!
@Bruno53ification What is all those trolling comment?! They are ignorant, yes but they took just bad exemple and ignored competely Yehudi Mehudi and Schoenberg who defended Furtwängler! They are Idiot!
This is complete asshattery. I come to Youtube to learn, to grow, to live. To proliferate my ideas. To listen to good music. To meet astounding people. Youtube isn't known for it's class, but I never would have thought I would come across such blatant disregard for humanity. Youtube is as bad as Hitler for allowing this kind of white pride supremist "Music" on its domain. Furtwangler is as guilty of genocide as the Angel of Death, himself - Josef Mengele.
@LoonyDoll for you information, Herr Furtwangler was exonerated after World War II. Don't bring your hypocrite political correctness here. I disagree with Israel's policies in the Middle East, yet I do not blame Itzaak Perlmann or Isaac Stern, zionist Jews classical music performers, for these policies. Get a life!
@Grimgerde you are an ignorant of history. Does mentioning slavery is glorifying slavery, STUPID? Of course not. And Herr Furtwangler was exonerated by the Allies after World War II. I'll be the first to dislike Nazis. But history facts are FACTS. To ignore them, as a stupid jerk like you propose, is like saying "it never happened". But stupid idiots like you don't understand.
I can't believe this monster "Furtwaengler" allowed the disgusting people of Germany who supported NAZIs to listen to Beethoven. :o And people declare this idiot as some kind of anti-NAZI hero!
One violinist in the orchestra was Peter Drolz. He survived the war, and can see him playing in the Berlin Philharmonic under Karajan in videos made for West German television in the 1970s and early 1980s.
Beethoven would have covered his face in shame if he had lived in the Nazi period. Nazis are the disgrace for the Germany tha gave us such composers like Bach, Beethoven, Brahms and Wagner [who Hitler loved his music, ironically].
@Grimgerde well yes, stupid. Don't you know Jewish performers of classical music performed Wagner's music? Don't tell me you never heard of Fritz Reiner, Otto Klemperer and Bruno Walter? See, you need to GROW UP!
@foerster I absolutely agree and you are the first person I have ever seen that has shared my view. I don't care "how disgusted he was to shake Goebbel's hand" as another person put. The man is idolized and I have no clue why.
Furtwangler was one of the giants of music no doubt about that, I'm not the slighest bit interested in his politics nor any other artist's for that matter. However, I think he rushes this finale like most other conductors. Klemperer is the only conductor I know who can make sense of this movement and not make it sound a complete shambles!
The man was a musician. Give him a break. I would hate to think I judged the Beatles by their politics. Besides, Adolf had good taste in a lotta things. He was the first world leader to identify smoking as a carcinogen. He was a fair to decent artist. I dont care I liked his pix. Sue me. He was kind to animals,
@whiteman866 - Furtwangler and Hitler, had dual purposes; each one, thought that the OTHER person could contribute to their ways. Fortunately, the musical purism of Furtwangler SURVIVED the entire days of WW2, and was allowed to live for some years, after the conclusion of WW2. BTW, the final stretto of THIS finale, of Beethoven's 90th, is probably TOO-FAST. Furtwangler was not perfect, in his ways, but this is another, very-fine example of his unique, instinctual formations of interpretations.
we have a nice shake hands between Goebbels and Furtwaengler here....
mixed feelings? Furtwaengler was informed about the planned attentat against Hitler but did not participate? did he inform Goebbels?
What was his real role in that Nazigermany? will we ever know? I don t think so. He definitely was no actif anti nazi. he may have helped some collegues juifs but I think it was done for pure egoistic reasons. He needed them for his orchestre. Otherwise the quality would not have been there.
there is still the problem he did not refuse to play in front of hitler and in front of the nazi flag; if you read his biography on wikipedia its not corresponding what is said there. he refused the shake hands with Hitler? let me laugh...
he did collaborate , its a fact. and he was a great conductor.
And now instead of this Western Culture advocates MTV, Black Rap, and Justin Bieber.
All you hyprocrites on this video who preach the 'hate' of Nazism are so blind to the hates of Capitalism - which is killing millions of people today.
But as long as you have a beer in the fridge, a computer to go on and some tax to pay you're all comfortable having blacks and Muslims take over your cities, change your cutlure and enforce their religion on you.
@BUGArachnide I always wondered who that fellow was (Gerhard Taschner). There is something strange and poignant about the way they focus on him. Being a Philharmonic musician obviously saved him from the army. Thanks for posting the information.
This Legendary German Orchestral Conductor, Wilhelm Furtwangler, performs Beethoven's S9 with intense poignance,beauty, passion, depth & powerful feeling of Redemption, Freedom, Peace & Human Love, specially as the chorale sings "alle Menschen werden bruder"....Bravissimo!
Whoever wants to see what the white Nazi subhumans did to a European land, shouldn't do anything else than visit the Greek village of Distomo, or Kalavryta, or Kandanos, or Kontomari, or Hortiatis, or Mesovouno, or Kommeno, or Nea Santa, or, or...
And if he dares, let him share his NationalSocialistic views with the few relatives of the slaughtered that were accidentaly left alive...
@simcha181818 Thanks for your interest. Although this is not the right place for such essays you may search in utube for “Italian victory for Greek massacre village”, “Kondomari crime”, “Kontomari Maleme”, “Kalavryta Memorial Field”. See also H.F. Meyer’s publications (hfmeyer.com), and “Razing of Kandanos” in Wikipedia. In whole Greece, there were 56225 people executed, 20650 partizans died in battle, over 300.000 civilians died from hunger, over 50.000 Greek Jews died in concentration camps.
Wow, what a great performance of the Beethoven! I loved the irony of the camera panning over Goebbels and other Nazi leaders as the words "alle Menschen werden brueder" (All people become brothers) are stretched out...and out -- a slap in the face to perverted Nazi racism. Furtwangler is a demigod -- the greatest conductor who ever lived.
During WW II "American" Negro "soldiers" killed around 50 White British citizens in acts of crime and that was despite being mostly kept away from general public as much as possible, a fact that has been covered up by the Jew controlled anti-White news media and entertainment industries helping prove Adolf Hitler's point that the Negrefrication of America was bad news for White western civilization. The actions of England and America made war inevitable and in fact they are responsible.
THIS right here is White culture folks unless you prefer Whites acting like Negros which is the way western society is headed. For Whites who prefer quality culture and don't think a Communistic Mulatto should be in charge of things come join the Nationalist movement. For more information visit the Stormfront White Nationalist chat room. Just type in Stormfront.
What a bunch of posers these nazis are. If they would have felt the music and Beethoven's grand vision, they would have torn of their uniforms and burned the nazi flag.
@figocooldude Culture in the U.S. today consists of Hip Hop and Rap music and the general Negrafrication of Whites. I suppose you think that is some kind of improvement ???
@MrBEB123 Beethoven wasn't a nazi, he was of another century. But the silly nazis like to claim him as theirs, pathetic, they did the same thing with Nietzsche. What a disgrace.
@figocooldude National Socialism wasn't around in his days but he had a Nationalists Socialist attitude just like the founding fathers of America did. Whites did not approve of race mixing back then which is why virtually no one did it and would not have even thought of doing it. Today's attitudes are because of brainwashing by the JEW controlled anti-White news and entertainment industries as well as other Jew programs designed to destroy the White race such as sports and politics.
@MrBEB123 Bullshit. Ode an die Freude is a poem by Shiller about the unity of ALL mankind, this is why Beethoven choose it. And Nietzsche despised nationalism and especially antisemitism, that's why he broke off with his sister. Yes, Jews have great power, but revising history is just ignorant.
@figocooldude Your post makes for some very entertaining laughter. Look at the video my friend and understand the grandeur of National Socialism. Western society and culture is on a downward spiral and it is only going to get worse unless someone prevents degenerate liberals from doing any more damage. We can't build a great society worshiping "people" like O.J. Simpson, Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama. The YouTube spell checker indicates the "Presidents" name is misspelled, tells you something.
@MrBEB123 HAHAHA, Duce, don't change the subject. We are talking specifically about Beethoven, his ninth symphony, the contradiction of nazis playing that particular piece and how nazis try to claim as theirs artists that are not part of national socialism, like the case of Nietzsche. Who which is someone you should read to know why exactly western culture is on a downward spiral: it's called nihilism. Nietzsche will CHANGE your life forever.
@figocooldude There is no contradiction in this German orchestra circa 1942 playing this piece and in fact it fits National Socialism perfectly helping to show the grandeur that had been achieved by the government, people and culture of Germany during this time. During this same time America had become a dull place with third World crime already on the rise and further proof that Democracy is a failure is what life is like today in "western" nations with drastically reduced wealth.
it's to some degree funny to see all this high ranking NSDAP members sit there and listen to beethoven 9th, were all men are declared brothers. An attitude they obvieusly don't had quite in mind.
Or maybe those words had a different meaning when 'the world' of those men and the people of that land was the European land, NOT THE INTERNATIONAL WORLD.
You really think those men thought of the Asians and Africans and others as 'brothers', as much as the people who were obviously more closely like them, racially and culturally?
You've spoken to him about this I suppose... ? In the biographies of Beethoven I have read (I assume you have read none) there is no indication that he was anti-semitic, and in fact some of his most popular works were published by jews. His choice. I think you are quite misinformed. You should probably research such things before you libel people, even dead ones.
@buffuzo He referred to his publisher, Adolf Martin Schlesinger, as "a beach-peddler and rag-and-bone Jew", and complained that he paid him "a dirty Jewish trick."
"You should probably research such things before you libel people..." Great advice! have you considered following it? ;)
I just finished watching "The Last Days of the Big Lie" on YouTube that demolishes Steven Spielberg's recent holohoax movie "The Last Days." It's REALLY funny!
Toscanini had refiuted to conduct a concert like this with the Nazi's Flags with soldiers all around in the audience. Even if Furtwängler didn't take part to the Regime, he had no hardiness to reject (refuse) the invitation to conduct for that evening as well as for many others..W Toscanini, the Italian man who refused to conduct for any regime or ideology.. W Toscanini!!!
O video tem seu valor histórico,mas musicalmente, não gostei.
Andamento muito rápido,acho que se perdeu um pouco do real sentido da Nona SInfonia de Beethoven, ...
Existem trechos desta interpretação que ficaram simplesmente rápidos de mais...quase impossível se perceber as notas e dinâmica.
Sendo uma obra com base no Ode A Alegria,creio que Beethoven pensou em propagar,cantar,louvar a alegria... e não deixar uma música que mais parece uma marcha nazista.
I believe Furtwängler was truly one of the greatest orchestral conductors ever... Of course we must never forget the terrible things that happened in those days. But... LISTEN TO THE MUSIC. Simply wonderful.
please, shut up and listen the music. You can talk about is the nazism a monster from hell when nazism exists, but not now, 60 years later and in this time of propaganda
@1993eph Why not? They are just musicians. Most Germans were just ordinary people trying to survive. Listen to Ms. Berger's wonderful singing. I prefer her to Callas, who sang for the German troops also, and she was an American!!
@1993eph Thanks. You are correct. I don't find it unusual or bad to celebrate the country leader' brithday. Some things the Nazi regime did were wrong. This concert is not one of these wrong things.
@osinging i refer to the program, this symphony talks about fraternity between all people in the world, totally contrarious to nazism. that's the irony
@1993eph Feminists might dispute this as it talks of "brotherhood" (I guess that is half of the world) , ;)
However what you say is true. Mind you, the other nations involved in WW2 also had ideas which were anything but "fraternity". to me, if you take the Jews out of the equation. they were all as bad as each other, except for a few countries like Sweden. My country New Zealand was "at it" also - not exactly nice.
@1993eph Me too! It is dangerous. An all out war between China and the US would mean the end of China and greatly weaken the US also. It could even be bigger than WW2.
I just watched a great documentary "In Search of Beethoven" in which one of the commenters says that what is displayed in the final symphony of Beethoven is not joy, but the hope of joy, almost ecstatic in its desperation. In 1942 the war was starting to turn on Germany...and the visions of the people on hearing this music seems to be one of "are we sure we were creating the world we are hearing?" Subversive music making at its best, as much of an impact as Shostakovich's symphonies were in USSR
Note the closeup of Gerhard Taschner from around 2 min 53 sec. He was the youngest concertmaster for the Berlin Philharmonic, and an absolutely wonderful performer. His records are full of the same kind of passion that emanates from a Furtwangler performance.
Heifetz had a wonderful technique, but regarding his interpretations, all evaluation is subject to the taste of the listener, i.e., entirely subjective. Personally, I don't have much time for Heifetz, or for Toscanini, both of whom seemed to favor high-speed virtuosity, to the detriment of the lingering enjoyment of the more spiritual side of musical expression. I celebrate the limitless variety of possible musical interpretations!
By not acting the snotty, racist, narrow-minded, self-important, pompous, self-righteous ass that you seem to be. In other words, by not closing my mind, by opening my ears, by refraining from superficial categorization, and by enjoying the feelings stimulated by true art.
an amazing conclusion, at a fantastic tempo; but note the expressionless faces in the audience -- dead souls all -- an apt commentary on the effect of nazism -- not even this music could ease, let erase, its poisonous influence
Love for music in the hearts of men & women. All men will be brothers. And on the podium the man with pure intentions and the real message from Beethoven: all men WILL be brothers. He stands out and with him every human who beleives in the real message. A beacon thru hell in witch he deliberatelly entangled himself for the true cultural message. Imagine occupied Europe & Furtwangler radio broadcast. Heaven in hell.
I think the sweetness and brilliance of the music seems to be giving the audience a small rest from the misery and confusion of that time. It's heartbreaking, to think of the greatest of musicians, conductors, composers coming together to create this spectacular event, juxtaposed with all the terrible history going on outside the music hall. You can imagine the momentary peace it brought to those souls, now long dead. Very moving and profound.
There is no sweetness or peace in this rendition, or what little there is is swept under the waves of agony and rage. This is by far the most disturbing version of the 9th I've heard, and also one of the best.
Yes, it is sad that some of those who are so quick to cry "anti-semitism" are also quick to fancy their "elite" group (particularly themselves) to be superior to--and obliged to judge--others. Anyone who views the world in terms of "me" vs "all other inferiors" or "my group" vs "lesser creatures" is suffering from a cognitive defect that calls into question any other views or judgments that person may entertain.
@TomDavid88 What a foul racist and unnecessary remark. Your point was well taken without it and even had some merit. Me even as a Jew respected that.Then with one rematk that told it all you bared your ugly soul by proving your real motive for making it.Words alone cannot describe the level of depravity that lurks behind this false veneer of respectability behind which you hide.Unlike the king of kings who you worship though he too happened to be a Jew-you are a pig of pigs and a racist swine.
@paulostroff99 But you, as a Jew, don't consider it "racist" when a fellow Jew says that you have to have Jewish blood to be a good violin player?! That just proves how blind the Jews are to their own racism. It is, in fact, the very reason why you people are always kicked out, eventually, of every country that you all have ever inhabited.
Show respect for those who are superior to you in every way . Little provincial Norf High School products with neo-nazi tendencies (Erwachsene mit intellektueller Behinderung) can be easily located and reeducated in Israel (a form of artistic rendition) . Also sprach Operaviolinist : pass auf, Du kleiner Wurm .
@operaviolinist Dear JewBoy, I have no fear of the Jews, which is why I ALWAYS sign my full real name and location. Now that you have done a quick google search on me, are you going to deport me? I'm waiting...
Bravo! All men are brothers - and the swastika adds the right touch. The murderers with their smug faces, the orchestra - Judenrein. What ART! Give me a break.
@TheBumblebee84 Yeah, and the English and Americans by choosing w ar mongerers as chiefs, who were happy to throw off atomic bombs mur dering hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians, or starving and terror bombing millions of German civilians and POWs. It is not like Handel is devaluated by the historical crimes of the British Empire, or Tschaikowsky by Soviet crimes.
@IustitiaPax You are so ignorant! Tchaikovsky did not perform for the Soviets. The Soviets didn't come into power until 1914, and T was long dead! the Japanese were given a choice to surrender, so were the Germans. They turned that option down. Do you know of the Bataan Death March? The peaceful Japanese! Who sneakily attacked Pearl Harbor.
@musicalme27 You know so little of history. The Bolsheviks came into power in Oct 1917, not 1914. The Japanese Empire was militaristic, but fair. The Empire of Japan warned the USA and gave an ultimatum to stop blocking Japanese economic transports to Roosevelt, who secretized this memorandum. Yehudi Menuhin is not responsible for Israeli crimes either, is he? So you deny the crime of the atomic bomb against civilians? How selective is your indignation.
0:27 I cannot STAND seeing that damned Swastika associated with this glorious piece!!!! A few seconds of the Best of Germany and the Worst in one remarkable shot.
2:28 the Soprano wobbles her top note, and the front desk of the violins chance a wee grin at each other. Humanity shared in a time when it was a rare sight.
Facile is criticizing those who fail to meet a heroic standard. Not all can be Knappertsbusch, spitting in Goebbel's face by asking if he was a "Mus Nazi", let alone a Marlene Dietrich, singing on behalf of the Allies against Hitler. The lack of such courage merely indicates a more ordinary human, 99% of whom cannot be heroes. It is enough to not be a Schwarzkopf, whose Nazi habits never seemed to stay accolades.
P1B1U1H1 1 week ago
Excellent version...Thanks to the uploader
jaruca2007 2 weeks ago
see the complete version...
youtube.com/watch?v=EmV35VPRT9s
obtica1 3 weeks ago
And by the way, if it matters as to my credentials, I am Jewish on my father's side and also GERMAN.
Freudboy 3 weeks ago
The conductor remained in Germany for several reasons: He feared the Nazis would imprison his mother; his orchestra was threatened with disbandment; many people, Jews and dissidents, depended upon his interventions; and most importantly, he could not accept Nazism as representative of the "true" Germany. I admit that I wish he had left, but for his own sake, not because I feel that he did wrong to others by staying.
Freudboy 3 weeks ago
By the way, from what I understand, Hitler did NOT attend this concert; I have read that Hitler refused to have anything further to do with Furtwaengler personally after 1937, calling him a "most unpleasant person." And also by the way, this was the only time he conducted on Hitler's birthday; he avoided it subsequently by getting a doctor's note to excuse him. As he was repeatedly negotiating to get people out of concentration camps, his "concessions" to Nazi demands are perhaps explainable.
Freudboy 3 weeks ago
Some beautiful things. But the chorus sound is spread and amateurish, the end is rushed and sounds out of control, and actually, I find his gestures non-specific and frantic. I don't get why he's such a legend.
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@TheseusTex His interpretations of well known music gave the music a different meaning. Think Kleiber, Celibidace, Bernstein if you can say the same words about them all you are either trolling or should reconsider your career as a musician.
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@TheseusTex @GGbreizh This was way before being a dancing clown was in vogue. I've played for so many idiots who think it's all in the "Conducting" aspect. as a result the principal violin and the oboe end up saving his ass.And the performance is together but generic. He's a legend not because he moves a certain way or even because of how clean the orchestra sounds.
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@MegaDocalex His comments should not be removed because of the freedom of speech. If he wants to show his ignorance (and his foolishness) in front of hundreds of people, that's his right.
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GGbreizh 1 month ago
The Lord bless her Furtvangler! And PLEASE enough withe the NAzi race baiting!
RetroTexas 1 month ago
fucking nazi! fucking america! go soviet union!!!
Carlosvaranaga 1 month ago
@Carlosvaranaga
fucking commie!
tajniak4 1 month ago
Cette version de la neuvième symphonie est simplement béatifique. Sublime. Cependant, je me passerais bien de la vue des croix gammées. Si Beethoven avait su qu'Hitler allait aimer son plus grand chef d'oeuvre, il se serait retourné dans sa tombe.
nicole54214 1 month ago
@MegaDocalex
The only retards are people who support NAZIs and then weakly insist they're not NAZIs. One Jewish man liked "Furtwaengler"? Tell that to the millions who died while "Furtwaengler" entertained Goebbels with Beethoven!
Grimgerde 1 month ago
@Grimgerde The only retards people are those who speak while they don't know. Fürtwangler was a great man who saved many Jews and who fight against the nazis. He risked his life several times by refusing to be part of propaganda. This performance is nothing but an indictment aginst the nazis.
Saying Fürtwangler is a nazy is like saying that Shostakovich was a great fan of Stalin. That's just ignorance.
GGbreizh 1 month ago
God has the Mozart's Masses and Requiem , ( voices out of Heaven) , and the Brahms Requiem , and Mahler's Eight and .... and paganism has This ..... what a match !
CarteParaDoxe 1 month ago
LoonyDoll and Grimgerde have NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE GREATNESS OF CLASSICAL MUSIC! I have listened to this great music for 45 years since a teenager in Jersey City. Love the music/
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
The music of Beethoven and Wagner is greater than the small minds of idiots we got here. And a great conductor like Furtwangler, I prefer Otto Klemperer and George Szell, is also greater than these small minds of idiots we got like some LoonyDoll and her boyfriend Grimgerde. And Szell was also Jewish and conducted Wagner for years as conductor of the Cleveland Orchestra. See Arkiv Music!
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
@Bruno53ification What is all those trolling comment?! They are ignorant, yes but they took just bad exemple and ignored competely Yehudi Mehudi and Schoenberg who defended Furtwängler! They are Idiot!
MegaDocalex 1 month ago
@MegaDocalex I agree.
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
@Bruno53ification You are a greant guy and you have some education they don't have. Respect
Doc Alex
MegaDocalex 1 month ago
This is complete asshattery. I come to Youtube to learn, to grow, to live. To proliferate my ideas. To listen to good music. To meet astounding people. Youtube isn't known for it's class, but I never would have thought I would come across such blatant disregard for humanity. Youtube is as bad as Hitler for allowing this kind of white pride supremist "Music" on its domain. Furtwangler is as guilty of genocide as the Angel of Death, himself - Josef Mengele.
LoonyDoll 1 month ago
@LoonyDoll for you information, Herr Furtwangler was exonerated after World War II. Don't bring your hypocrite political correctness here. I disagree with Israel's policies in the Middle East, yet I do not blame Itzaak Perlmann or Isaac Stern, zionist Jews classical music performers, for these policies. Get a life!
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
@LoonyDoll how old are you Ms Ignorant?
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
what is this nazi trash? nazi songs should be banned. why do we still play nazi music. that is wrong!
Zarathustra799 1 month ago
@Zarathustra799
I agree. Youtube letting people upload videos like this that glorify NAZI terror are an insult to freedom and liberal democracies everywhere!
Grimgerde 1 month ago
@Grimgerde you are an ignorant of history. Does mentioning slavery is glorifying slavery, STUPID? Of course not. And Herr Furtwangler was exonerated by the Allies after World War II. I'll be the first to dislike Nazis. But history facts are FACTS. To ignore them, as a stupid jerk like you propose, is like saying "it never happened". But stupid idiots like you don't understand.
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
I can't believe this monster "Furtwaengler" allowed the disgusting people of Germany who supported NAZIs to listen to Beethoven. :o And people declare this idiot as some kind of anti-NAZI hero!
Grimgerde 1 month ago
@Grimgerde Furtwangle was NEVER a member of the Nazi party. And Beethoven was German. Naturally even the damn Nazi Germans liked his music!
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
@Bruno53ification
NAZIs don't deserve music. "Furtwaengler" was a creep who aided and encouraged the NAZIs in their program of fascistic mass murder.
Grimgerde 1 month ago
I think it's true that he cleans his hand after shaking it with Goebbels...he keeps his handkerchief.
Rodrigoteacher 2 months ago
Furtwängler conducts like a drunk man, but the sound he produces is amazing! His beethoven is simply the best.
barnaby1988 2 months ago
One violinist in the orchestra was Peter Drolz. He survived the war, and can see him playing in the Berlin Philharmonic under Karajan in videos made for West German television in the 1970s and early 1980s.
Bruno53ification 2 months ago
Beethoven would have covered his face in shame if he had lived in the Nazi period. Nazis are the disgrace for the Germany tha gave us such composers like Bach, Beethoven, Brahms and Wagner [who Hitler loved his music, ironically].
Bruno53ification 2 months ago
@Bruno53ification
Think again. Wagner was a proto-NAZI.
Grimgerde 1 month ago
@Grimgerde rather he was MISUNDERSTOOD in his music. Get an education!
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
@Bruno53ification
I'm sure all of the Jews the proto-NAZI Wagner hated so much also thought he was just "misunderstood," right?
Grimgerde 1 month ago
@Grimgerde well yes, stupid. Don't you know Jewish performers of classical music performed Wagner's music? Don't tell me you never heard of Fritz Reiner, Otto Klemperer and Bruno Walter? See, you need to GROW UP!
Bruno53ification 1 month ago
I absolutely adore that last comment from PrussianElite about the handshake.
shantihealer 2 months ago
One can sense and see the inner disgust when Furtwängler has to shake Goebbels' hand at the end of the concert.
PrussianElite 2 months ago
Oops, a correction - obviously, this is not Beethoven's "90th", but his 9th, of course.
jhb134 3 months ago
That was Goebbels shaking Furtwängler's hand?
vstasov 3 months ago
The hand of Furtwaengler to Goebbels thinking for years and years a lot of persons accused Karajan to be a "nazi"... bah...
foerster 3 months ago
@foerster I absolutely agree and you are the first person I have ever seen that has shared my view. I don't care "how disgusted he was to shake Goebbel's hand" as another person put. The man is idolized and I have no clue why.
bdrman 2 months ago
@bdrman Are you an other Furtängler's hater-troll? I'm tired, but very tired to read this type of comment on Furtwänler's page or Wagner's video.
Please remove your comment.
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bdrman 1 month ago
Furtwangler was one of the giants of music no doubt about that, I'm not the slighest bit interested in his politics nor any other artist's for that matter. However, I think he rushes this finale like most other conductors. Klemperer is the only conductor I know who can make sense of this movement and not make it sound a complete shambles!
TheVaughan5 3 months ago
The man was a musician. Give him a break. I would hate to think I judged the Beatles by their politics. Besides, Adolf had good taste in a lotta things. He was the first world leader to identify smoking as a carcinogen. He was a fair to decent artist. I dont care I liked his pix. Sue me. He was kind to animals,
whiteman866 4 months ago
@whiteman866 - Furtwangler and Hitler, had dual purposes; each one, thought that the OTHER person could contribute to their ways. Fortunately, the musical purism of Furtwangler SURVIVED the entire days of WW2, and was allowed to live for some years, after the conclusion of WW2. BTW, the final stretto of THIS finale, of Beethoven's 90th, is probably TOO-FAST. Furtwangler was not perfect, in his ways, but this is another, very-fine example of his unique, instinctual formations of interpretations.
jhb134 3 months ago
@whiteman866 not quite , James VI /I banned the use of tobacco in his court as early as 1610!!
Rattywotin 3 months ago
we have a nice shake hands between Goebbels and Furtwaengler here....
mixed feelings? Furtwaengler was informed about the planned attentat against Hitler but did not participate? did he inform Goebbels?
What was his real role in that Nazigermany? will we ever know? I don t think so. He definitely was no actif anti nazi. he may have helped some collegues juifs but I think it was done for pure egoistic reasons. He needed them for his orchestre. Otherwise the quality would not have been there.
uhartchristian 4 months ago
there is still the problem he did not refuse to play in front of hitler and in front of the nazi flag; if you read his biography on wikipedia its not corresponding what is said there. he refused the shake hands with Hitler? let me laugh...
he did collaborate , its a fact. and he was a great conductor.
uhartchristian 4 months ago
I'm curious if it's known where this was performed?
CliveKandel 4 months ago
@CliveKandel At the Philharmonic Hall. (In Beriln.)
tlagudtjq 4 months ago
Is he Gerhard Taschner at 2:53 ?
petrof4056 5 months ago
@petrof4056 Yes, he is.
tlagudtjq 5 months ago
Ja, alle Menschen (except for Jews)... Too bad F's artistry is forever tainted by his association with those Nazi gangsters.
buffuzo 5 months ago
@buffuzo The allies are genocidal thugs.
FreeVonHelton 4 months ago
And now instead of this Western Culture advocates MTV, Black Rap, and Justin Bieber.
All you hyprocrites on this video who preach the 'hate' of Nazism are so blind to the hates of Capitalism - which is killing millions of people today.
But as long as you have a beer in the fridge, a computer to go on and some tax to pay you're all comfortable having blacks and Muslims take over your cities, change your cutlure and enforce their religion on you.
The West is dead.
Olamtir 6 months ago
@Olamtir Hear, hear!
FreeVonHelton 4 months ago
The greatest!!!!!
MrXinChou 6 months ago
genius
niallguinan 6 months ago
@BUGArachnide I always wondered who that fellow was (Gerhard Taschner). There is something strange and poignant about the way they focus on him. Being a Philharmonic musician obviously saved him from the army. Thanks for posting the information.
jatriggs 6 months ago
This Legendary German Orchestral Conductor, Wilhelm Furtwangler, performs Beethoven's S9 with intense poignance,beauty, passion, depth & powerful feeling of Redemption, Freedom, Peace & Human Love, specially as the chorale sings "alle Menschen werden bruder"....Bravissimo!
angela44ize 7 months ago
@angela44ize ....and without any moral conscience!!! He could have followed Bruno Walter and many others.
But he didn't!
flon5flon 6 months ago
great orchestra and conduction, but singers are awful!
LordoftheTrapdoors 7 months ago
Whoever wants to see what the white Nazi subhumans did to a European land, shouldn't do anything else than visit the Greek village of Distomo, or Kalavryta, or Kandanos, or Kontomari, or Hortiatis, or Mesovouno, or Kommeno, or Nea Santa, or, or...
And if he dares, let him share his NationalSocialistic views with the few relatives of the slaughtered that were accidentaly left alive...
amakrid 8 months ago
@amakrid Tell us more about it! Let the world hear about it! The world is more familiar with Nazi atrocities in Poland, Russia, Hungary, Slovakia.
simcha181818 6 months ago in playlist Beethoven - 9th
@simcha181818 Thanks for your interest. Although this is not the right place for such essays you may search in utube for “Italian victory for Greek massacre village”, “Kondomari crime”, “Kontomari Maleme”, “Kalavryta Memorial Field”. See also H.F. Meyer’s publications (hfmeyer.com), and “Razing of Kandanos” in Wikipedia. In whole Greece, there were 56225 people executed, 20650 partizans died in battle, over 300.000 civilians died from hunger, over 50.000 Greek Jews died in concentration camps.
amakrid 6 months ago
@amakrid Thanks. The world should know about this. No one's blood is redder.
simcha181818 6 months ago
And I wonder how many women they raped. Equality is - of course - all bullshit. Darwin proved this.
marcusantonius90 9 months ago
Wow, what a great performance of the Beethoven! I loved the irony of the camera panning over Goebbels and other Nazi leaders as the words "alle Menschen werden brueder" (All people become brothers) are stretched out...and out -- a slap in the face to perverted Nazi racism. Furtwangler is a demigod -- the greatest conductor who ever lived.
ptrichmondmike 9 months ago 10
During WW II "American" Negro "soldiers" killed around 50 White British citizens in acts of crime and that was despite being mostly kept away from general public as much as possible, a fact that has been covered up by the Jew controlled anti-White news media and entertainment industries helping prove Adolf Hitler's point that the Negrefrication of America was bad news for White western civilization. The actions of England and America made war inevitable and in fact they are responsible.
MrBEB123 9 months ago
THIS right here is White culture folks unless you prefer Whites acting like Negros which is the way western society is headed. For Whites who prefer quality culture and don't think a Communistic Mulatto should be in charge of things come join the Nationalist movement. For more information visit the Stormfront White Nationalist chat room. Just type in Stormfront.
MrBEB123 9 months ago
What a bunch of posers these nazis are. If they would have felt the music and Beethoven's grand vision, they would have torn of their uniforms and burned the nazi flag.
figocooldude 10 months ago
@figocooldude Culture in the U.S. today consists of Hip Hop and Rap music and the general Negrafrication of Whites. I suppose you think that is some kind of improvement ???
MrBEB123 9 months ago
@MrBEB123 Beethoven wasn't a nazi, he was of another century. But the silly nazis like to claim him as theirs, pathetic, they did the same thing with Nietzsche. What a disgrace.
figocooldude 9 months ago
@figocooldude National Socialism wasn't around in his days but he had a Nationalists Socialist attitude just like the founding fathers of America did. Whites did not approve of race mixing back then which is why virtually no one did it and would not have even thought of doing it. Today's attitudes are because of brainwashing by the JEW controlled anti-White news and entertainment industries as well as other Jew programs designed to destroy the White race such as sports and politics.
MrBEB123 9 months ago
@MrBEB123 Bullshit. Ode an die Freude is a poem by Shiller about the unity of ALL mankind, this is why Beethoven choose it. And Nietzsche despised nationalism and especially antisemitism, that's why he broke off with his sister. Yes, Jews have great power, but revising history is just ignorant.
figocooldude 9 months ago
@figocooldude Your post makes for some very entertaining laughter. Look at the video my friend and understand the grandeur of National Socialism. Western society and culture is on a downward spiral and it is only going to get worse unless someone prevents degenerate liberals from doing any more damage. We can't build a great society worshiping "people" like O.J. Simpson, Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama. The YouTube spell checker indicates the "Presidents" name is misspelled, tells you something.
MrBEB123 9 months ago
@MrBEB123 HAHAHA, Duce, don't change the subject. We are talking specifically about Beethoven, his ninth symphony, the contradiction of nazis playing that particular piece and how nazis try to claim as theirs artists that are not part of national socialism, like the case of Nietzsche. Who which is someone you should read to know why exactly western culture is on a downward spiral: it's called nihilism. Nietzsche will CHANGE your life forever.
figocooldude 9 months ago
@figocooldude There is no contradiction in this German orchestra circa 1942 playing this piece and in fact it fits National Socialism perfectly helping to show the grandeur that had been achieved by the government, people and culture of Germany during this time. During this same time America had become a dull place with third World crime already on the rise and further proof that Democracy is a failure is what life is like today in "western" nations with drastically reduced wealth.
MrBEB123 9 months ago
@figocooldude You should learn how to write sentences before you start analyzing Nietzsche.
UPutTheGayInGangster 8 months ago
@UPutTheGayInGangster That´s all you got? English isn't even my language. But cool story, bro.
figocooldude 8 months ago
@figocooldude Beethoven was a composer, not a fucking philosopher, or a politician.
marcusantonius90 9 months ago
@marcusantonius90 Shut the fuck up. You understand nothing.
figocooldude 8 months ago
@figocooldude What the HELL do you know about culture, honour and nobility?
TwyztdValkyrie 9 months ago
@TwyztdValkyrie Not much, but at least I know a bit, not like yourself.
figocooldude 9 months ago
it's to some degree funny to see all this high ranking NSDAP members sit there and listen to beethoven 9th, were all men are declared brothers. An attitude they obvieusly don't had quite in mind.
BUGArachnide 10 months ago 19
@BUGArachnide
Or maybe those words had a different meaning when 'the world' of those men and the people of that land was the European land, NOT THE INTERNATIONAL WORLD.
You really think those men thought of the Asians and Africans and others as 'brothers', as much as the people who were obviously more closely like them, racially and culturally?
You're a status quo clown.
Baseliner 9 months ago
@BUGArachnide Beethoven hated the Jews too.
FreeVonHelton 4 months ago
@FreeVonHelton
You've spoken to him about this I suppose... ? In the biographies of Beethoven I have read (I assume you have read none) there is no indication that he was anti-semitic, and in fact some of his most popular works were published by jews. His choice. I think you are quite misinformed. You should probably research such things before you libel people, even dead ones.
buffuzo 4 months ago
@buffuzo He referred to his publisher, Adolf Martin Schlesinger, as "a beach-peddler and rag-and-bone Jew", and complained that he paid him "a dirty Jewish trick."
"You should probably research such things before you libel people..." Great advice! have you considered following it? ;)
FreeVonHelton 4 months ago
D O I T C H L A N D
ddiamand31 10 months ago
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Such an exquisite performance, free from Jewish contamination. Haha j/k, but the ending is very ambitious! :)
8Ho03EdONl1liL 11 months ago
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I just finished watching "The Last Days of the Big Lie" on YouTube that demolishes Steven Spielberg's recent holohoax movie "The Last Days." It's REALLY funny!
Sincerely,
Tom David
Minneapolis
TomDavid88 11 months ago
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Toscanini had refiuted to conduct a concert like this with the Nazi's Flags with soldiers all around in the audience. Even if Furtwängler didn't take part to the Regime, he had no hardiness to reject (refuse) the invitation to conduct for that evening as well as for many others..W Toscanini, the Italian man who refused to conduct for any regime or ideology.. W Toscanini!!!
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toscanini10 11 months ago
O video tem seu valor histórico,mas musicalmente, não gostei.
Andamento muito rápido,acho que se perdeu um pouco do real sentido da Nona SInfonia de Beethoven, ...
Existem trechos desta interpretação que ficaram simplesmente rápidos de mais...quase impossível se perceber as notas e dinâmica.
Sendo uma obra com base no Ode A Alegria,creio que Beethoven pensou em propagar,cantar,louvar a alegria... e não deixar uma música que mais parece uma marcha nazista.
MateusDossin 11 months ago
I believe Furtwängler was truly one of the greatest orchestral conductors ever... Of course we must never forget the terrible things that happened in those days. But... LISTEN TO THE MUSIC. Simply wonderful.
Mundharp 1 year ago
did you notice Furtwangler wiping his hand after touching Goebbels?
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dieselheart001 1 year ago
The shots of the Nazis as the choir sang "Alle Menschen werden Brueder". Very moving.
JackSafferyRowe 1 year ago
@JackSafferyRowe
The passing words in 1942 were " Alle Deutschen werden Moerderer" ( all Germans are becoming criminals).
operaviolinist 11 months ago
@JackSafferyRowe -Shame that it didn't move them to the ovens.
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Io "inseguo" da un non breve vita ogni esecuzione della 9^, ebbene, a mio avviso, mai ne venne eseguita una pari a quella del 19 aprile 1942.
rossandfaker 1 year ago
please, shut up and listen the music. You can talk about is the nazism a monster from hell when nazism exists, but not now, 60 years later and in this time of propaganda
kandutery 1 year ago
Great. I can always hear the great Ms. Berger's voice soaring way above that of the orchestra.
osinging 1 year ago
irony! how can this symphony be played for hitler, if it talks about fraternity between all people in the world
1993eph 1 year ago
@1993eph Why not? They are just musicians. Most Germans were just ordinary people trying to survive. Listen to Ms. Berger's wonderful singing. I prefer her to Callas, who sang for the German troops also, and she was an American!!
osinging 1 year ago
@osinging you are right, just that anyway the concert is to celebrate Hitler's birthday
1993eph 1 year ago
@1993eph Thanks. You are correct. I don't find it unusual or bad to celebrate the country leader' brithday. Some things the Nazi regime did were wrong. This concert is not one of these wrong things.
osinging 1 year ago
@osinging i refer to the program, this symphony talks about fraternity between all people in the world, totally contrarious to nazism. that's the irony
1993eph 1 year ago
@1993eph Feminists might dispute this as it talks of "brotherhood" (I guess that is half of the world) , ;)
However what you say is true. Mind you, the other nations involved in WW2 also had ideas which were anything but "fraternity". to me, if you take the Jews out of the equation. they were all as bad as each other, except for a few countries like Sweden. My country New Zealand was "at it" also - not exactly nice.
osinging 1 year ago
@osinging that´s right! :)
1993eph 1 year ago
@1993eph Thanks. Let's hope we don't have any more of thes wars. Someone tell North and Soth Korea to be nice to each other - please!
osinging 1 year ago
@osinging yes i know! I hope it doesn´t gets worse
1993eph 1 year ago
@1993eph Me too! It is dangerous. An all out war between China and the US would mean the end of China and greatly weaken the US also. It could even be bigger than WW2.
osinging 1 year ago
@osinging yes! this crazy world only fights.
1993eph 1 year ago
@1993eph That is why people have to get online, say "we know what you are doing - stop it!".
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chrysokoll 1 year ago
戦中版もすごいな！
シラーの詩を完全に理解して無いとできない演奏だよ
251puma 1 year ago
I just watched a great documentary "In Search of Beethoven" in which one of the commenters says that what is displayed in the final symphony of Beethoven is not joy, but the hope of joy, almost ecstatic in its desperation. In 1942 the war was starting to turn on Germany...and the visions of the people on hearing this music seems to be one of "are we sure we were creating the world we are hearing?" Subversive music making at its best, as much of an impact as Shostakovich's symphonies were in USSR
psalmtone2008 1 year ago
wow
goodmanmusica 1 year ago
Note the closeup of Gerhard Taschner from around 2 min 53 sec. He was the youngest concertmaster for the Berlin Philharmonic, and an absolutely wonderful performer. His records are full of the same kind of passion that emanates from a Furtwangler performance.
emtube 1 year ago 9
@emtube
Taschner was to a wonderful performer what a dilettant is to Heifetz . A German mediocre violinist .
To be a wonderful performing violinist one needs a Jewish ancestry .
operaviolinist 11 months ago
@operaviolinist
Nice comment, for a racist.
Heifetz had a wonderful technique, but regarding his interpretations, all evaluation is subject to the taste of the listener, i.e., entirely subjective. Personally, I don't have much time for Heifetz, or for Toscanini, both of whom seemed to favor high-speed virtuosity, to the detriment of the lingering enjoyment of the more spiritual side of musical expression. I celebrate the limitless variety of possible musical interpretations!
emtube 11 months ago
@emtube
How do you celebrate the severe limits of your artistic taste,musical education and cognitive abilities ?
By posting ?
operaviolinist 11 months ago
@operaviolinist
By not acting the snotty, racist, narrow-minded, self-important, pompous, self-righteous ass that you seem to be. In other words, by not closing my mind, by opening my ears, by refraining from superficial categorization, and by enjoying the feelings stimulated by true art.
emtube 11 months ago
at 1.36 is that Himmler on the left ?
kenyon050489 1 year ago
es increible que la musica de Beethoven que es un himno a la libertad se dedicada a un tirano brutal.
gusherala 1 year ago
Public=Nazis and Motherfuckers. Fürtwangler=A GENIUS.
lamanodeonansequeja 1 year ago
My hat off !
David360805 1 year ago
in romanian
furt = theft
aghaanantyab 1 year ago
@aghaanantyab I would imagine the conductor Sergiu Celibidache - a Romanian - would wonder what you're trying to say.
TheStockwell 1 year ago
Seid umschlungen Millionen - das Motto des "rechten" Großkapitalisten Frey...
KarstenKriwat 1 year ago
The God of conducting. The only real interpreter.
crowjane911 1 year ago
an amazing conclusion, at a fantastic tempo; but note the expressionless faces in the audience -- dead souls all -- an apt commentary on the effect of nazism -- not even this music could ease, let erase, its poisonous influence
freeunion 1 year ago 2
Love for music in the hearts of men & women. All men will be brothers. And on the podium the man with pure intentions and the real message from Beethoven: all men WILL be brothers. He stands out and with him every human who beleives in the real message. A beacon thru hell in witch he deliberatelly entangled himself for the true cultural message. Imagine occupied Europe & Furtwangler radio broadcast. Heaven in hell.
FilmRomMusDrawingWar 1 year ago
I think the sweetness and brilliance of the music seems to be giving the audience a small rest from the misery and confusion of that time. It's heartbreaking, to think of the greatest of musicians, conductors, composers coming together to create this spectacular event, juxtaposed with all the terrible history going on outside the music hall. You can imagine the momentary peace it brought to those souls, now long dead. Very moving and profound.
44aceofhearts 1 year ago
@44aceofhearts
There is no sweetness or peace in this rendition, or what little there is is swept under the waves of agony and rage. This is by far the most disturbing version of the 9th I've heard, and also one of the best.
vorpal83 1 year ago
Was Hitler at this concert
davesort 1 year ago
@davesort No.
TheStockwell 1 year ago
@davesort
In spirit. The entire public was composed of nazi criminals , their relatives and helpers.
German cultural life in 1942 without the Jews: singers singing out of tune , a mediocre orchestra and total lack of precision . Obscene spectacle
operaviolinist 11 months ago
@operaviolinist You clearly don't have ears...and are most probably a Jew.
Sincerely,
Tom David
Minneapolis
TomDavid88 11 months ago
@TomDavid88
Hello Tom David,
Yes, it is sad that some of those who are so quick to cry "anti-semitism" are also quick to fancy their "elite" group (particularly themselves) to be superior to--and obliged to judge--others. Anyone who views the world in terms of "me" vs "all other inferiors" or "my group" vs "lesser creatures" is suffering from a cognitive defect that calls into question any other views or judgments that person may entertain.
emtube 11 months ago
@TomDavid88 What a foul racist and unnecessary remark. Your point was well taken without it and even had some merit. Me even as a Jew respected that.Then with one rematk that told it all you bared your ugly soul by proving your real motive for making it.Words alone cannot describe the level of depravity that lurks behind this false veneer of respectability behind which you hide.Unlike the king of kings who you worship though he too happened to be a Jew-you are a pig of pigs and a racist swine.
paulostroff99 11 months ago
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@paulostroff99 But you, as a Jew, don't consider it "racist" when a fellow Jew says that you have to have Jewish blood to be a good violin player?! That just proves how blind the Jews are to their own racism. It is, in fact, the very reason why you people are always kicked out, eventually, of every country that you all have ever inhabited.
Sincerely,
Tom David
Minneapolis
TomDavid88 11 months ago
@TomDavid88
Show respect for those who are superior to you in every way . Little provincial Norf High School products with neo-nazi tendencies (Erwachsene mit intellektueller Behinderung) can be easily located and reeducated in Israel (a form of artistic rendition) . Also sprach Operaviolinist : pass auf, Du kleiner Wurm .
operaviolinist 11 months ago
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@operaviolinist Dear JewBoy, I have no fear of the Jews, which is why I ALWAYS sign my full real name and location. Now that you have done a quick google search on me, are you going to deport me? I'm waiting...
Sincerely,
Tom David
Minneapolis
TomDavid88 11 months ago
Was Hitler present at this concert?
davesort 1 year ago
I hadn't noticed before, no standing ovation from the audience. In the US audiences stand for the most mediocre performances.
ciroalb3 1 year ago
in quell'epoca se un cantante o un musicista steccava rischiava il lager....soprattutto durante il concerto per il compleanno del Fhurer
INBARIO 1 year ago
Bravo! All men are brothers - and the swastika adds the right touch. The murderers with their smug faces, the orchestra - Judenrein. What ART! Give me a break.
musicalme27 1 year ago
@TheBumblebee84 Yeah, and the English and Americans by choosing w ar mongerers as chiefs, who were happy to throw off atomic bombs mur dering hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians, or starving and terror bombing millions of German civilians and POWs. It is not like Handel is devaluated by the historical crimes of the British Empire, or Tschaikowsky by Soviet crimes.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
@IustitiaPax You are so ignorant! Tchaikovsky did not perform for the Soviets. The Soviets didn't come into power until 1914, and T was long dead! the Japanese were given a choice to surrender, so were the Germans. They turned that option down. Do you know of the Bataan Death March? The peaceful Japanese! Who sneakily attacked Pearl Harbor.
musicalme27 1 year ago
@musicalme27 You know so little of history. The Bolsheviks came into power in Oct 1917, not 1914. The Japanese Empire was militaristic, but fair. The Empire of Japan warned the USA and gave an ultimatum to stop blocking Japanese economic transports to Roosevelt, who secretized this memorandum. Yehudi Menuhin is not responsible for Israeli crimes either, is he? So you deny the crime of the atomic bomb against civilians? How selective is your indignation.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
Bravo, Staudtwerner! Apprezzo molto quello che hai scritto!
2251813 1 year ago
0:27 I cannot STAND seeing that damned Swastika associated with this glorious piece!!!! A few seconds of the Best of Germany and the Worst in one remarkable shot.
2:28 the Soprano wobbles her top note, and the front desk of the violins chance a wee grin at each other. Humanity shared in a time when it was a rare sight.
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DrLeavingsoon 1 year ago
We are SO UNLUCKY for not having FURTWANGLER as our contemporary...So FORLORN...SO UNFORTUNATE !
sam0xin 1 year ago