The Etruscans probably came from Anatolia,as suggests the Stele of Lemnos and the Cabeirian mysteries.Although Herodotus mentions that the Tyrrenians were of Lydian origin,the Lydian language is strictly Indo-european.So,the famous pater mendaciorum,once again,was wrong:) And i'm saying this being Greek myself.Armenian is IE,actually forming a single IE branch along with Proto-greek.I know Etruscan.Believe me,it's unlike any other known languages either of Old(cf.Marija Gimbutas) or IE-Europe.
3.After the talks between MİRŞAN and Professor Doctor Giovannangelo CAMPOREALE, who is the most competent scientist in Italy in 1995 about the Etruscan people, Giovannangelo agreed that these ETRUSCAN inscriptions were written in EARLY TURKISH LANGUAGE.
2...of signatures of the genetics scientist Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain.
@zzeynepp18 Well I do not doubt the experience of these researchers mentioned by you! Still I would love to know more of these ancient peoples who settled in Turkey and other oriental areas
1)The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of ..
@zzeynepp18 mmm? The Etruscans 2700 years ago there were already more over 2000 years! and however much research scientist researchers named say the exact opposite of what you write ... I repeat, however, that in Italy there are thousands of tests that confirm their existence in Italy, in Turkey I have never seen Etruscan tombs or temples, based on assumptions madeby some researchers, historians, not to say that this is certain!
my friend of course Etruscans settled in Italy,but they were Lydian related people.And before Lydia they were middle-asian origian.Everything happened step by step.But of course their last location was Italy and you are the granchildren of them for sure.Lydians were a great civilization.They didn't use Etrusk name but Lydian.I will send you some links.
But there are some contrary situations of course,Etruscan language was not indo-eu language but Lydian was indo-eu.Scientists claim that They were of middle asian origin and genetically Turkic people.Their alphabet is also like Gokhturk runic alphabet.You can compare them in wikipedia.Some Turk haters think every asian are mongolian origined.In fact Lydians,Trojans were also Turanian.They were not mongolian or something.Native anatolians and Turanians are the key for Etruscans.
@saripotin but you're a wild donkey! There are schools in your country? You know what is indeed a school? do not write more crap that is best for you donkey
the Etruscans has nothing to do with the Armenians! if you want to talk about civilization is necessary to refer to the ancient Egyptians and Babylon .... first of this civilization, all humanity was roughly nomads in search of a more prosperous place, then the period you are talking about you, the Etruscans already existed long before the Armenians, do not confuse water with wine .....
Nooooo. Etruscans were not Armenians. They may have come from the Marmara area but they spoke a language that was not Indo European. Why is it Armenians always have to make up "facts"? Why the huge inferiority complex? It is as if an entire country had "small man complex" Armenians seem to grab at anything that comes along.....
@zzeynepp18 I am Italian, and I know that history has gone quite the contrary! Isolde were many Turks to kill Armenians, informed of the burial of the victims after
the massacre of Erzerum, 1835, then again in 1894, then again in 1909 a second wave of strikes massacres the Armenians, then again from 1900. until 1915 was the extermination of about a million and half Armenians ..... do not tell guys cock
Ask your grandfathers,what was Italian army doing in anatolia 100 years ago.Italy,England,France,Greece,Armenia and Russia attacked Turkey 100 years ago together.You killed Turks,you invaded our country and now you say 'shame on you !'wowww!!I am really impresses!Learn your history well!All these countries owe an apology to us,because they killed millions of turks and invaded our country.How can you forget these!how!
@zzeynepp18 Italy has made the war like many other countries, but has never been genocide, the Italians have helped thousands of Jews during World War II, Italy itself has been the victim of genocide by half of Europe! As early as 1600, we had only invaders from all sides, well informed ....
@zzeynepp18 today 22 December 2011, the President of France Nicolas Sarkozy has said that Turkey is guilty of the genocide of around one million and a half (1.5 trillion) of Armenian citizens, but your president did not accept this accusation! you are great monsters and liars you Turks! Shame! You will never get to be part of Europe ....
Sarkozy must look at ALGERIAN genocide first.I am not ashamed of article 301 anymore,a european country banned the freedom of speech,science and facts.Shame on you! we don't want to be a part of eu,ask any Turks,we don't want Eu.And an italian is against genocide,how interesting!!how do you forget your history easily!
@zzeynepp18 I do not think that Europe would never want Turkey in Europe! You know I do not know what you're talking about, Italy also has a genocide on the shoulders? could you tell me which one? thanks .....
@zzeynepp18 Perhaps you feel you are Turkish and wish that things were as you want, but the reality is another thing ... the Etruscans originate in an area between the current Tuscany and Lazio, in central and northern Italy, the Romans were born from these .... The Turkish language has nothing in common with the Etruscan, the Etruscan language is the mother of the Latin language, do not get confused ....
Modern Turks are the most closest people to Etruscans genetically,because they're related to Lydians.Armenia is not even in anatolia,why are you lying that much.Where is Galatians,Lydians,Trojans,Tracians,Hittitian?Why are you hiding and never mention these civilizations.You armenians are always lying and stealing the history.You are Persian people not Anatolian or Etruscan.Etruscans were not speaking indo-eu languages,their alphabet is also like Orkhun alphabet.Ask Italian scholars!
@zzeynepp18 I do not know where you learned the story?! but certainly you're doing a lot of confusion, let me just one name of Etruscan temples that are found in Turkey! or show evidence of the Etruscans, who lived in Turkey! no joke here on the internet, because people see it and you could make a bad impression
you armenians are white wannabes and now you become anatolian wannabes.Modern Turks are native anatolian people,why do you deny this fact?All scholars are sure about this.We dont want to be european or something.Ask Turks,no one wants Turkey to be in EU,it is our silly government insists on this issue.We are anatolian people,we are not armenian,kurd or persians.Learn this!
@zzeynepp18 heard to say these things must first show of archaeological sites, or at least some Etruscan temple there in Turkey or in Armenia .... I might also say to be a Martian. but without evidence I do not believe anyone! then the Etruscans are natives of Italy, this is proven by thousands of testimonials, go in between Lazio, Tuscany, Umbria in central Italy, you'll have all the answers you want.
If we are talking about ARMENIANS why is there Rabeez music accompanying this video. No offence to the music but there is very little Armenian origin in it. What about some Komitas?
This researcher seems rather unqualified for what he does... The rest of the world knows that Armenian is an old language but is on the other branch of the Ind0-European language tree. watch the video titled; Pelasgic - Illyrian - Etrusco - and Albanian Language!
Turks invaded ancient Armenian Anatolia only 700 years ago, they were nomad and didn lt have their alphabet, all their documentation was done by Armenians with Armenian letters but Turkish language. First Turkish novel is written in Armenian letters by Armenian...now Turks are making propaganda and claiming otherwise, but the word knows very well who Turks are...
@BeautySavesWorld Have you heard about Orhon Yenisey Scripts?Armenians and Hays is not the same.Then y u guys call your country Hayestan--not Armenia?Thank you.
@TheBuffaloeye The similarity of the name Hayasa to the endonym of the Armenians, Hayk' or "Hay" and the Armenian name for Armenia, "Hayastan," has prompted the suggestion that the Hayasa-Azzi confereration was somehow involved in the Armenian ethnogenesis. Hayasa-Azzi was a Late Bronze Age confederation formed between two petty kingdoms of Anatolia, The Hayasa-Azzi were in conflict with the Hittite Empire in the 14th century BC, leading up to the collapse of Hatti around 1290 BC. wiki.
I think correct me if I'm wrong that the Tamil people are Elamites, please consider An ancient Tamil name Eelam or Elam but if you look in the hebrew עֵילָם It is closer to Eelam than Elam isn't it? Also the Dravidians are they all related to the Tamil people? And a possibly explanation for black elamites is the mixing of what where the black northern people of india and the lighter Elamites, if not so please explain?
@Albanian2Be no need to do texts between the Etruscans and your skull! because they have madehundreds of studies and extensive research on this subject, they never found anything that links the Etruscans with other peoples of Asia or the Balkans, to make of reason, because there are people who are already studying this case for centuries ....
etruscan words explained from the resources of the albanian language? hahahaha! albanians came to balkans in 10th and 11th century A.D. It's a Slavo-mongol race.
Etruscans were Greeks from Lydia and they removed to Etruria in Italy. Armenians also are the descents of the Greek- Phrygians. That's why there are a lot of people who believe that Armenians are Greeks.
@deeptuber109 Etruscans were Greeks from Lydia but their language has changed. But there were some similarities with the lydian language. Herodotus said that and Alberto Piazza proved with DNA tests that this is the truth. We have to many philisophers and historicals in our history. What the turks have? NOTHING! That explains a lot who is ignorant , funny and................ STUPID BARBARIAN!
By writing this lie you better get lost .. you thief. Your Western lecturers declare that they know nothing about Etruscan language.. but you even know it's changed.. Einstein.
Very convincing!!! Just go and play your Greek flut somewhere else.. bagger.
@deeptuber109 Is very convincing because if you read the Greek history you will see where the Etruscans come from! Because those ages only the Greeks whrote the history in books! Greek people from the Aegean sea built Lydia in Minor Asia. Many years later some Lydians left from Lydia because of the Persian invasion and they go to Northen Italy and they built Etruria!
@deeptuber109 Also the labguage was a Greek dialect and it was changed after moving in Italy! Because the Etruscans were in touch with Mycenaeans , Arcadians , Phrygians etc. And all of these dialects were mixed and as a result Etruscans had a different language. Do youbelive that Etruscans are your ancestors? That's crazy if your turkish! If someone is close minded like you nothing is convincing!
@olympiakomania Etruscan language was proven years ago as an agglunative language with Ural-Altaic root. The problem was on reading and understanding the Etruscan. They are a sperated arm of Lydians from Anatolia as Modern DNA tests proved as exactly told by Herodot.. and Lydian scriptures can not be read by Greek scholars. Early Lydian rock and stone carves written by runic alphabet with Turkic tamgas not with letters. You satisfy yourself that civilization suddenly poped up in Greece..
@deeptuber109 There wasn't any turkish civilization or turkish scriptures or something similar those years! First of all Lydians were from Aegean sea and they removed to Lydia! And after too many years some Lydians removed to Tuscany and the builted Etruria! That explains a lot were they came from! About the language is affected by many Greek dialects! Like the Romans and the Latin language!
@olympiakomania Greece is accepted as the base of European and dependently Western Civilization..not of World civilization. Greek civilization starts at 390 - 400 BC. There were Sumer civilization 2500 -3000 BC, Egypt 2000 BC, and this line goes to Minoan civilization in Crete island. From Minoans passed to Mykenes and to Attica finally. Greek Alphabet also taken from Phonecians. The base of all that sourced from Central Asia by Great Migrations started at 14.000 BC towards all over the World.
@olympiakomania Leave aside Central Asia and Caucasia remains. Let's look at Anatolia.; Cunni Cave in Erzurum, Salyamach Village, Scriptures in Proto-Turkic Runic alphabet. 18 letters of that scriptures found in early Egyptian hyrogliphes. Eskisehir - Yazilikaya (Written rock) 24 meters X 20 meters monument found identical with Central Asian Turkic and Etruscan scriptures. Kutahya Monument 6000 BC. Hundreds like those in Anatolia. Plus Frigian, Lydian scriptures are all in Proto-Turkic language
@deeptuber109 Take Sumer 3000 - 2500 Bc. Sumerian - Turkish Dictionary published. 1500 words with pronounciation and by meaning same as Turkish words. 160 of those words are used in today's Turkish. Even compound words like "kap-kachag" (Pots and plates) by same sound same meaning and we use today in our Turkish. Sumerians were a Proto-Turkic speaking people from Central Asia. Lydians, Frigians, Trojans and many other were all speaking Turkic.. not Turkish but Turkic.
There is no video abt Armenians not accopmanied by jealous georgians whom Armenians wrote even their alphabet, but since we didn't write capital letters as well for them those monkeys until now don;t have them! lol
keep demonstrating what i wrote you are nothing but bunch of ugly liers who keep themself happy by lying and using others stuff Bagrationi are from the Tao Klarjeti Region of Georgia from Speri fuck off Xachik back to India
Armenians have no Connection its Caucasian Georgian iberian Connection
@GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi What ? We are from India ?) How funny and aneducated you are.)) Have you ever read a single book about the orgins of Armenians ?))) I guess no. Do you know which is our language's place in Indo-European family ?) So go and read books of famous historians and scholars to educate yourself before barking against Armenians.
i think armenians do have a connection with Etruscans even though there is more evidence with albanian... why because armenian is a Phrygian language, with had a connection with thracians...... but trojans considered themselves dardanians who were thracians and also discribed as illyrians.... meny historians and people believe that thracians and illyrians were the same people who spoke the same language and had the same culture.
i don't know if armenians are related to Etruscans, but there is more evidence with albanian, i've read a lot of Etruscan and i was superised to see the connection with albanian language and was able to translate. the truth is that Etruscans claimed they were from Troy, Trojans considered themselves as DARDANIANS and dardanians were a thracian-illyrian tribe, ancestors of kosovo albanians
@GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi Stupid Armenophob go educate yourself and learn about origins of the Armenians from reliable sources not from Azeri falsifikators who confirm that Turks appeared in Transcaucasia 3000 years ago. And learn about origins of Bagrationi dinasty. Names Ashot, Smbat, Bagrat are widеspreaded among the Armenians. Also these names were common within Armenian dinasty Bagratuny.
YUP YUPPPP LMFAOOOO Etruscs DNA 97% Turkic/Altaic, this is the scientific fact, but you shameless, pathetic, miserable armos still say They were armenians. What can you expect from lying piece of shit armenians? SERIOUSLY YOU ARMOS NEED HELP, YOU CUNTS ARE SICK IN THE HEAD... GET A LIFE PIGS
Anglo Saxon Chronicle - part 1 - "The island Britain (1) is 800 miles long, and 200 miles broad. And there are in the island five nations; English, Welsh (or
British) (2), Scottish, Pictish, and Latin. The first inhabitants were the Britons, who came from Armenia (3), and
Turks are MURDERERS turks MURDERED ARMENIANS GREEKS KURDS BULGARIANS JEWS EZDI HUNGARIANS ASSURIANS I can keep going on turks are MURDERERS turks can change their cloths,their letters,their hair,their names but your gens are of MURDERERS
@deeptuber109 I can understand that. US Armenians are tasty, not tough and stringy like Azari (slow cooking helps). They don't give you gas like Syrians. Serbs are OK if marinated in milk for a few hours. Otherwise they are a bit gamey. Greeks are good if marinated in Ouzo. They usually come pre marinated. It is good if the cook is also "marinated. "
This deeptuber turkish guy is such a genius! He claims current day west tukey( also known as Greece, Byzantium) was inhabited by turks 4000 years ago. I know some people try to rewrite history but going to this extent is outrageous.
The rest what Camporealli apllied .. crross word test or what.. I don't know. These are Archeology experts. I don't know their way, I was not with them. For me his acceptance is very important.
Surely he can not publish translated inscriptions now.. give him some time to learn the language. He will.
You say you don't know their way and their work, but yet you say you know their opinion. How exactly you know a scientific opinion without have read the actual study/paper?? Are you friends with them and you had a little chat?
No. I said.. I wasn't there. We listen, we watch, we read official declarations of serious people and institutions.
DNA wise some serious names given to you.
You don't believe them.. than you believe who?
Live the term "Turk" to us. For us "Turk" is one nation with a unique history and very rich culture.
I say you are Aborigine from Australian desert. It's done.. finish.. doesn't really matters how you declare yourself. This is the way of yours to debate.. irrational.
Etruscans according to herodotus were from lydia, Turks now live on regions including Lydia and when invaded Anatolia mixed with indigenous peoples, so pretty rational modern Turks to have close genetic kinship to etruscans. Although other populations too share similarities according to various researches, even North Africans as you pasted from some research. That would mean according to your logic Etruscans were Africans. What you re trying to point out has no relation to the researches
Claiming all the academic world of history and archaeology conspired against Turkic peoples of the globe to hide the "older" and "taller" secret pyramids of them, is a bit irational.
On the other hand, you praise geneticists who write one sentence in a paper which can suit your theory, they are not then part of the "conspirancy", only the ones who can't fit to your theory are. Very interesting and scientific logic to be taken seriously on youtube.
First the language of Etruscans is an agglunative language which is rooted from Ural-Altaic group. There is no quarrel on that.
Some scholars put the theory that they can read and understand Etruscan scriptures in Proto-Turkic. The theory powered by several DNA tests. So.. Their language and DNA is closer to Turkic people than anybody else.. But you are free to call them Martians or Armenians.
There is some distance between Etruscan been agglutinative, to being altaic-uralic or Turkic. It is like saying "x individual is a human", "turks are humans", "therefore x is a Turk" LOL .
@armhumanbeing Ignorance should be hitting the ceiling in your dark Armenia to say Muslim Turks mixed with other pagans and Christians. That's not a habit in Anatolia my dear.. never has been.
The Turkish DNA is the same one you have been tasting by centuries. Wana taste again.. just try and see once more if they are Turks or 70.
@armhumanbeing I know today's Armenia suffering of poverty but is it to that extend that they closed even mental hospitals and pushed the patients out ?
It will become boring if i repeat the same about DNA one more time. 1) As i said genetics are irrelevant to identities of ancient cultures, 2) Turks were found 3 times closer in a specific study, which compared Etruscans to specific sample populations, yet you twist it and generalize it. In other studies there are other populations with similar distances to Etruscans, one of them is the population of Lemnos.
You mess up all case. Present day living people of Toscana showed close affinity to present day living people of Lemnos.
In another test series, present day Toscana people's DNAs showed no match at all with the 48 DNA samples taken from bones found in ancient Etruscan necropols plus Turkish component in their gene pool appears three times as large as in the other populations. Lemnos people's gene pool is far away to ancient Etruscan DNAs.
Hidden pyramids are in today's Xiang Province of P.R. China.. Uighur Turks land. The land is called East Turkistan and for long years nobody allowed to enter the area. 100% sure there were some people before Communist China invaded East Turkistan in 1949. I understood China case but I don't understand no hearing, no exposition bfore1949 neither by West nor by Soviets. This I call "hidden case" just as no scriptures, no tablets nor any parchment exposed from Etruria except funeral statements.
Maybe there is on quarrel between you and yourself on this theory? Or between the few nationalistic turkish scholars, the only ones on the planet that give credibility to such theory? Unless you live in a different planet , in which indeed they have deciphered Etruscan language and consider it proto turkish, because in this one, the possibility is considered very small if not inexistent, and only maintained by turkic nationalistic scholars
I don't know where it came from Ughur have any relation to the Chinese pyramids. If i am not mistaken Ughur didn't even appear in the region they are now in China, centuries A.D. Chinese have one of the oldest civilizations, documented histories, and written languages on earth (along with Greek, Egyptian, Messopotamian, Indian) . They date nearly 3000 BC at least, so what you claim also opposes to common sense , and timeline of history.
Uighurs.. They are not in China. They are in their mother land, East Turkistan where the pyramids are and under occupation of China. Chinese called their country "xiang" means "slave land".
It's very interesting to see you call them "Chinese pyramids" like a set up alarm clock. Uighur Pyramids are aged 8000 - 12000 BC so is their civilization when Chinese had not even been out of their caves.
12000 BC?I doubt the date you post is real and has a base. Nevertheless even if Chinese hadn't been out of their caves in 12000 BC, there is nothing indicating Ughur that postdate Chinese had been out
I say.. having doubt is a lot better than having prejudice to find out historical facts. Yes at least let's have some doubt if greatest civilizations of mankind (Sumer, Egypt, Etrusc, Maya, Inka..) are all described as;
- We don't know where they came from.
- Mysterious people
- They had a strange language
- We can not read their inscriptions
Yes.. at least we have to have some doubt as all belong to mankind.
As you wrote I pasted the conclusion of reports and You also write my pointing out has no relation to researches (contradiction!). Read the reports and see how they eliminated the possibilities of race mixture. I can not put all complete texts of reports here from several institutions in 1000 boxes of You Tube. But be sure those Universities and genom Centers were aware of all questions like yours that may arise.
DNA tests don't power this theory of yours, and they clearly speak about possible gene flow of etruscans to modern populations, they don't deal Turks as the direct descendants of Etruscans.
etruscs and sumer 1 nation they are arian-celtic, the mummy and pyramid cultures belong to Celtic-aryans, Celtic-aryans mixed up with mongols then created turks, celtic aryans known as Yue-chi or tocharians in central asia!
turks have nothing to do with etruscans. turks are mongolian gypsies. they came frome mongolia and now they steal everything and btw they look mongolian!!
And.. it's proven but I know it's hard to digest for you that Turks was in Anatolia even in 4000 BC. Read about Turukkus, read about famous Akadian Emperor Naram-Sin's tablets mentioning the name of the Turkish King resisting his invasion in Anatolia when no Greeks were there.
My dear neighbor. I can not write the richest history of the world.. so called "Turks". I suggest you go to Uighur Turks' culture and civilization which is hidden and forbidden by Chinese now as Westerns hiding Etruscan reality and Sumerian facts as you Greeks and Europe does the same to Lydians.. watch them, read about and follow the route to Italy. This is called history with facts and logic.. not the sudden pop up civilizations of mysteries, unreadables or alien connections.
I wonder how it happened only you have this logic and the truth of historical facts. Isn't that a bit strange?
Ughur are turkic peoples of central Asia (nothing their culture to do with Europe) like you, and you should relate yourselves to them instead of Ancient European civilizations you are trying so hard to make a connection in order to present yourselves as indigenous.
Chinese don't forbid anything, actually the western media themselves due to political reasons reproduce such lies.
Exactly..That's what I tried to explain. No connection is the way to write history for you. History is a science not pink fairy tales. There are connections and vast influence to each civilization by the other. But West says for Etruscans, Sumers, Lydians and for Egyptians "We don't know where they came from - sudden pop up civilizations - scripts not readable except late Egyptians hieroglyphs. This is not disability.. this is hiding the truth!
In fact there are connections and all start in East Turkistan with great Uighur civilizations. There you will find many pyramids and mummies older than Egyptian mummies and a way better preserved mummies. A white pyramid is double size of Egypt's biggest pyramid Khufu and placed in same plan with the smaller pyramids around as the pyramids placed in Egypt. This is coincidence for you no connection. To enter that part of Xiang province is forbidden by Chinese.. not as you made up "free".
There between lays Sumer. Latest attempt from Western historians is to connect their civilization to aliens and UFOs. Their unreadable tablets all read by Turkologists who knows Proto - Turkic language and Turkic script tamgas. Shown to Western Academies thousands of same words matching even with today's Turkish by meaning also and many coupling words (Sound and meaning) which is almost impossible if you don't speak same language.
A Kazakh Professor who (Kazim Mirsan) knows 7 western language and 7 Turkish dialects went to Egypt and read 450 unreadable early Egypt hieroglyph cylinders and delivered the documents to Egyptians. There he found the names of First 3 Egyptian High Priests. They were all Sumerian names. No connection!!
Same Professor went to Italy and deciphered famous Etruscan Marsiliano Tablet and many others in Proto - Turkish and show the way how to read them to famous Etruscolog Prof. Camporealli. DNA test followed this incident. What you wrote about is wrong. DNA taken from bones foumd in Etruscan burial chambers aged 700 BC. and showed no match with today's Italian people.. not a bit. Your theory is wrong.
I really think that you aren't in so much connection to reality,from the things you say. First of all methodology of extracting dna from bones and comparing to few peoples of a country is in a primitive stage, and not so reliable. However Greeks of Lemnos too were found to match Etruscan remains. Second the dna of people of a modern culture is irrelevant to identifying the culture/language of the respective ancient ones
And third name me the work published of this Camporealli deciphering Etrusk
Prof. Camporeali is the most authorized and well known Etruscologist of Italy. In contrast with the other Italian scholars he is not approaching the case from nationalistic view. He is world famous by his works trying to prove Etruscan art influenced by Greek art.
This was the reason "How to decipher Etruscan scripts" briefing given to him. Prof. Mirsan said after a full day working, Camporeali accepted that Etruscans were Turks. This kind of lies not told in that level of scientific world. Prof. Camporealli can not publish anything simply because he doesn't know Proto-Turkic.
DNA testing is well advanced now. If some hesitation exist do you think western world would declare this? No way.. specially Italians wouldn't. They delivered main base of Western civilization from Italy to Turks. This is not 1 simple test. American Stanford University and 2 İtalian Universities with many scholars from the world made countless DNA tests and research which took 10 years to conclude. Not that simple.
Some parts of final Declaration by The American Society of Human Genetics;
-Etruscans differ in two aspects: they show closer relationships both to North Africans and to Turks than any contemporary population. In particular, the Turkish component in their gene pool appears three times as large as in the other populations.
-On the contrary, the similarity between the Etruscan and Turkish gene pools may indeed reflect some degree of gene flow.
This study was supported by funds from the Universities of Ferrara and Florence, the Italian Ministry of Universities (MIUR [FISR and COFIN 2003]), the Fondazione Cassa di Risparmio di Ferrara, and the Fondazione Dino Terra.
We are grateful to Robert Tykot, Vincent Macaulay, Peter Forster, Jaume Bertranpetit, Claudio Bravi, George van Driem, Graeme Barker, and Tom Rasmussen, for several suggestions and for critical reading of a preliminary manuscript; to S. Sanna and S. Conti, for their technical contribution; and to E. Pacciani, who provided us with the Magliano, Marsiliana, and Tarquinia samples
Laboratori di Antropologia, Università di Firenze, Firenze, Italy; Dipartimento di Biologia Evoluzionistica e Sperimentale, Università di Bologna, Bologna, Italy; Dipartimento di Chimica Generale e Inorganica, Chimica Analitica, Chimica Fisica, Università di Parma, Parma, Italy;
Dipartimento di Scienze Archeologiche, Università di Pisa, Pisa, Italy; and Unitat de Biologia Evolutiva, Departament de Ciències Experimentals i de la Salut, Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain
Address for correspondence and reprints: Dr. Guido Barbujani, Dipartimento di Biologia, via Borsari 46, I-44100 Ferrara, Italy.
Present affiliation: Centre integratif de genomique (CIG), Lausanne, Switzerland.
Received December 5, 2003; Accepted January 28, 2004.
All these respectful scientists approved and signed this declaration. If it doesn't satisfy.. I can post the lists of American and Turkish scholars and scientists worked, signed and declared DNA tests with the same results. To be anti-Turkish is acceptable.. to be anti-scientific... you name it!
"Camporeali accepted that Etruscans were Turks. " , "Prof. Camporealli can not publish anything simply because he doesn't know Proto-Turkic." . How exactly Camporealli accepted Etruscans were Turks if he doesn't know Proto-Turkic, meta-Turkic or whatever, and most important , WHERE he accepted that if he didn't publish anything?? Maybe in your imagination?
One can investigate the case by the assistance of others he trusts in. As long as one receives trustful explanations by basing on them related questions is asked at intellectual level. For him to learn to read "A" as "At", "B" as "Ok" in Proto - Turkic is not so difficult . This called reading with "TAMGA"s not with "Letters". And putting the words and sentences together and and ask the translation from a Kazakh assistant not so difficult for them.
The rest you post actually are of zero importance. As i said today's genetic identity of Turks is irrelevant to what Ancient indigenous populations were. If someone examines today an African American he will get western African dna, that doesn't mean Ancient Western Africans had USA culture , were singing rap and had English as language.
You better concentrate the subject of this video. It says "Origin" !!!.. not the culture. just don't twist it again. Culture is following debate. Exactly as you write in your sample that negro is proven to be African origin as Etruscans are proved to be Turk origin.. not by my posting by world's accepted and respected institutions after 10 years of delicate work.
"Turk" is a cultural term not genetic one, and by saying "Etruscans had Turkish origin" is itself a contradiction and a joke since an ancient population couldn't be a modern one which didn't live anywhere near), a term you won't find to any study/book/paper and especially to the ones you refer to.
I am not being neither anti-scientific nor anti-turkish, you are actually the definition of anti-scientific by contradicting history/archeology/linguistics, and using some studies which actually don't prove your point, or even worse, inexistent studies.
What Turkish scholars say is not a serious matter and you know it. There isn't any American or whatever scholar published any kind of study saying "Etruscans were Turks" , all this are your fairy tale.
so are you the forefathers of brits or italians lol
goldenageism 6 days ago
and the music sucks too !
goldenageism 6 days ago
there is nothing comon between them stop kissin ass
goldenageism 6 days ago
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goldenageism 6 days ago
Robert Ellis The Armenian origin of the Etruscans
MegaMrakira 1 month ago
The Etruscans probably came from Anatolia,as suggests the Stele of Lemnos and the Cabeirian mysteries.Although Herodotus mentions that the Tyrrenians were of Lydian origin,the Lydian language is strictly Indo-european.So,the famous pater mendaciorum,once again,was wrong:) And i'm saying this being Greek myself.Armenian is IE,actually forming a single IE branch along with Proto-greek.I know Etruscan.Believe me,it's unlike any other known languages either of Old(cf.Marija Gimbutas) or IE-Europe.
MrGaperda 1 month ago
TURKs and ETRUSCANS
guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/18/italy.johnhooper
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
3.After the talks between MİRŞAN and Professor Doctor Giovannangelo CAMPOREALE, who is the most competent scientist in Italy in 1995 about the Etruscan people, Giovannangelo agreed that these ETRUSCAN inscriptions were written in EARLY TURKISH LANGUAGE.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
2...of signatures of the genetics scientist Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Well I do not doubt the experience of these researchers mentioned by you! Still I would love to know more of these ancient peoples who settled in Turkey and other oriental areas
Cutriso64 2 months ago
1)The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of ..
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 mmm? The Etruscans 2700 years ago there were already more over 2000 years! and however much research scientist researchers named say the exact opposite of what you write ... I repeat, however, that in Italy there are thousands of tests that confirm their existence in Italy, in Turkey I have never seen Etruscan tombs or temples, based on assumptions madeby some researchers, historians, not to say that this is certain!
Cutriso64 2 months ago
@Cutriso64
my friend of course Etruscans settled in Italy,but they were Lydian related people.And before Lydia they were middle-asian origian.Everything happened step by step.But of course their last location was Italy and you are the granchildren of them for sure.Lydians were a great civilization.They didn't use Etrusk name but Lydian.I will send you some links.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@Cutriso64
But there are some contrary situations of course,Etruscan language was not indo-eu language but Lydian was indo-eu.Scientists claim that They were of middle asian origin and genetically Turkic people.Their alphabet is also like Gokhturk runic alphabet.You can compare them in wikipedia.Some Turk haters think every asian are mongolian origined.In fact Lydians,Trojans were also Turanian.They were not mongolian or something.Native anatolians and Turanians are the key for Etruscans.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
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@saripotin but you're a wild donkey! There are schools in your country? You know what is indeed a school? do not write more crap that is best for you donkey
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the Etruscans has nothing to do with the Armenians! if you want to talk about civilization is necessary to refer to the ancient Egyptians and Babylon .... first of this civilization, all humanity was roughly nomads in search of a more prosperous place, then the period you are talking about you, the Etruscans already existed long before the Armenians, do not confuse water with wine .....
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"That the Etruscans were Turanians, and that they belonged to the North Turanian or
Altaic branch of the Turanian stem, cannot be denied."
(Victoria Institute (Great Britain), Journal of the Transactions of the Victoria Institute, Or
Philosophical Society of Great Britain , Band 10, BiblioBazaar, 2009, p.200)
IdelUralState 2 months ago 2
Turks are a manifestation of two donkeys mating with one another. You will all burn in hell.
bigtraz 3 months ago
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@bigtraz
"That the Etruscans were Turanians, and that they belonged to the North Turanian or
Altaic branch of the Turanian stem, cannot be denied."
(Victoria Institute (Great Britain), Journal of the Transactions of the Victoria Institute, Or
Philosophical Society of Great Britain , Band 10, BiblioBazaar, 2009, p.200)
IdelUralState 2 months ago
Im laughing my socks off. Etruscans= Turks. DNA proof shows this and liguistically
erdal0 4 months ago
@erdal0 I do not understand what would you say about the Etruscans?
Cutriso64 2 months ago
Nooooo. Etruscans were not Armenians. They may have come from the Marmara area but they spoke a language that was not Indo European. Why is it Armenians always have to make up "facts"? Why the huge inferiority complex? It is as if an entire country had "small man complex" Armenians seem to grab at anything that comes along.....
outsidelight1 5 months ago
ARMENIANS ARE STEALING TURKISH DOCUMENT AND THE SPEECHES OF TURKSISH EYE-WITHNESSES ABOUT THE TURKISH GENOCIDE!
EYE-WITHNESSES SAY ' ARMENIANS SLAUGHTERED TURKISH LITTLE CHILDREN AND BOILED THEM IN HOT WATER AND SERVED THEM AS FOOD'
YOU ARE NOT HUMAN BEING ARMANIANS,ONE DAY ALL WORLD WILL LEARN THE TRUTH!
zzeynepp18 5 months ago
@zzeynepp18 I am Italian, and I know that history has gone quite the contrary! Isolde were many Turks to kill Armenians, informed of the burial of the victims after
the massacre of Erzerum, 1835, then again in 1894, then again in 1909 a second wave of strikes massacres the Armenians, then again from 1900. until 1915 was the extermination of about a million and half Armenians ..... do not tell guys cock
Cutriso64 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Turkish soldiers have never even killed children Kurds true? I think you are liars, stained with human blood
Cutriso64 2 months ago
@Cutriso64
Ask your grandfathers,what was Italian army doing in anatolia 100 years ago.Italy,England,France,Greece,Armenia and Russia attacked Turkey 100 years ago together.You killed Turks,you invaded our country and now you say 'shame on you !'wowww!!I am really impresses!Learn your history well!All these countries owe an apology to us,because they killed millions of turks and invaded our country.How can you forget these!how!
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Italy has made the war like many other countries, but has never been genocide, the Italians have helped thousands of Jews during World War II, Italy itself has been the victim of genocide by half of Europe! As early as 1600, we had only invaders from all sides, well informed ....
Cutriso64 2 months ago
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@zzeynepp18 today 22 December 2011, the President of France Nicolas Sarkozy has said that Turkey is guilty of the genocide of around one million and a half (1.5 trillion) of Armenian citizens, but your president did not accept this accusation! you are great monsters and liars you Turks! Shame! You will never get to be part of Europe ....
Cutriso64 2 months ago 2
@Cutriso64
Sarkozy must look at ALGERIAN genocide first.I am not ashamed of article 301 anymore,a european country banned the freedom of speech,science and facts.Shame on you! we don't want to be a part of eu,ask any Turks,we don't want Eu.And an italian is against genocide,how interesting!!how do you forget your history easily!
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 I do not think that Europe would never want Turkey in Europe! You know I do not know what you're talking about, Italy also has a genocide on the shoulders? could you tell me which one? thanks .....
Cutriso64 2 months ago
What the hell is this video,ETRUCIAN WERE TURANID people.
Etrucian language was not indo-european.
Entrucian scripts solved with anchient Turk language and alphabet.It is certain
Even today the words in Etrucian tablets are spoken by Turks.
Theri Dna also matches with Turkic people.
Stop Lying and Stealing Turkic Civilizations , Liar Armenians!
zzeynepp18 5 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Perhaps you feel you are Turkish and wish that things were as you want, but the reality is another thing ... the Etruscans originate in an area between the current Tuscany and Lazio, in central and northern Italy, the Romans were born from these .... The Turkish language has nothing in common with the Etruscan, the Etruscan language is the mother of the Latin language, do not get confused ....
Cutriso64 2 months ago 3
@Cutriso64
Modern Turks are the most closest people to Etruscans genetically,because they're related to Lydians.Armenia is not even in anatolia,why are you lying that much.Where is Galatians,Lydians,Trojans,Tracians,Hittitian?Why are you hiding and never mention these civilizations.You armenians are always lying and stealing the history.You are Persian people not Anatolian or Etruscan.Etruscans were not speaking indo-eu languages,their alphabet is also like Orkhun alphabet.Ask Italian scholars!
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 I do not know where you learned the story?! but certainly you're doing a lot of confusion, let me just one name of Etruscan temples that are found in Turkey! or show evidence of the Etruscans, who lived in Turkey! no joke here on the internet, because people see it and you could make a bad impression
Cutriso64 2 months ago
@Cutriso64
you armenians are white wannabes and now you become anatolian wannabes.Modern Turks are native anatolian people,why do you deny this fact?All scholars are sure about this.We dont want to be european or something.Ask Turks,no one wants Turkey to be in EU,it is our silly government insists on this issue.We are anatolian people,we are not armenian,kurd or persians.Learn this!
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 heard to say these things must first show of archaeological sites, or at least some Etruscan temple there in Turkey or in Armenia .... I might also say to be a Martian. but without evidence I do not believe anyone! then the Etruscans are natives of Italy, this is proven by thousands of testimonials, go in between Lazio, Tuscany, Umbria in central Italy, you'll have all the answers you want.
Cutriso64 2 months ago
Armenians have Etruscan origin... this is correct.
VendPrekmurec 7 months ago
If we are talking about ARMENIANS why is there Rabeez music accompanying this video. No offence to the music but there is very little Armenian origin in it. What about some Komitas?
HenrikKarapetyan 8 months ago
This researcher seems rather unqualified for what he does... The rest of the world knows that Armenian is an old language but is on the other branch of the Ind0-European language tree. watch the video titled; Pelasgic - Illyrian - Etrusco - and Albanian Language!
ArmandoTafa 8 months ago
Urartians existed before the Haigs arrived to Armenia, and the name Armenia was more a name of a place and not a race ! Urartians were HUrrians !!!
kurdhashash 9 months ago
1071 is the last date that Turks came to Anatolia... We have been in theese lands for too long !!!
AlestaTr 10 months ago
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Check this out : /watch?v=UfyNShX-8vI
AlestaTr 10 months ago
Turks invaded ancient Armenian Anatolia only 700 years ago, they were nomad and didn lt have their alphabet, all their documentation was done by Armenians with Armenian letters but Turkish language. First Turkish novel is written in Armenian letters by Armenian...now Turks are making propaganda and claiming otherwise, but the word knows very well who Turks are...
watch?v=PmnODOWJUiM
BeautySavesWorld 11 months ago
@BeautySavesWorld Have you heard about Orhon Yenisey Scripts?Armenians and Hays is not the same.Then y u guys call your country Hayestan--not Armenia?Thank you.
TheBuffaloeye 10 months ago
@TheBuffaloeye
When I need ur Azeri Tatar falsiication of our history and genetics I will not hezitate to turn to u , thank ; u-)
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
@TheBuffaloeye U r wellcome.But u didn't answer my question--I really want to know y u guys call ur country Hayestan?I don't mean to offend u.
P.S. Orhon Yenisey scripts is not a falsification-just check Wikipedia.
TheBuffaloeye 10 months ago
@TheBuffaloeye The similarity of the name Hayasa to the endonym of the Armenians, Hayk' or "Hay" and the Armenian name for Armenia, "Hayastan," has prompted the suggestion that the Hayasa-Azzi confereration was somehow involved in the Armenian ethnogenesis. Hayasa-Azzi was a Late Bronze Age confederation formed between two petty kingdoms of Anatolia, The Hayasa-Azzi were in conflict with the Hittite Empire in the 14th century BC, leading up to the collapse of Hatti around 1290 BC. wiki.
HayasaZinvor 10 months ago in playlist ancient, history, civilization cultures
"Armenian Origin Of The Etruscans"
by Robert Ellis
BeautySavesWorld 11 months ago
Damn,
I always heard Albanians are stupid, but I had no idea they were this stupid.
They should stop reading the writings on the toilette walls of Europe, and try reading books of history.
Haytime4justice 1 year ago
Etruscians are white,Armenians are brown and hairy dogs
Albanian2Be 1 year ago
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I think correct me if I'm wrong that the Tamil people are Elamites, please consider An ancient Tamil name Eelam or Elam but if you look in the hebrew עֵילָם It is closer to Eelam than Elam isn't it? Also the Dravidians are they all related to the Tamil people? And a possibly explanation for black elamites is the mixing of what where the black northern people of india and the lighter Elamites, if not so please explain?
easternstock 1 year ago
@IbniVehbi Hahah yes!!
Every language has big similarities to our Albanian language becouse they fucking all descend from us!!
Albanian2Be 1 year ago
Dam you people are dumb!
Look at aaaall the Albanian telling true facts without saying bad stuff and they are reaaaally telling smart stuff just pay attention to it.
Than Greeks and Armenians and Gypsys response:
Noooo Etruscans are Greeks becouse Greek is cool and we love apple juice.
Armenians say:Noooooo they are armenian becouse armenian people moved to pakistan and pakistans are etruscians and love cheese.
ARMENIA-GREEK THEORY====THEY ARE BOTH IGNORANT HAIRY GYPSYS
Albanian2Be 1 year ago 4
@Albanian2Be and you are stupid fucking kid licking balls ofyour tutor on Mondays.
sewakvishap 1 year ago
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@Albanian2Be How stupid you are.))
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@Albanian2Be The Etruscans ORIGINATING IN A SMALL AREA IN THE PRESENT, LAZIO AND TUSCANY, CENTRAL NORTH ITALY, stop!
Cutriso64 2 months ago 11
@Cutriso64 Yeaaaa keep saying that.
Just take my skull form and DNA and compare it to Pelasgians and Etruscans.You will be suprised
Albanian2Be 2 months ago
@Albanian2Be no need to do texts between the Etruscans and your skull! because they have madehundreds of studies and extensive research on this subject, they never found anything that links the Etruscans with other peoples of Asia or the Balkans, to make of reason, because there are people who are already studying this case for centuries ....
Cutriso64 2 months ago
@Cutriso64 Tourism,historical benefits,..
If REAL history came out it would produce a domino effect for all famous civilizations.
Albanian2Be 1 month ago
etruscan words explained from the resources of the albanian language? hahahaha! albanians came to balkans in 10th and 11th century A.D. It's a Slavo-mongol race.
Etruscans were Greeks from Lydia and they removed to Etruria in Italy. Armenians also are the descents of the Greek- Phrygians. That's why there are a lot of people who believe that Armenians are Greeks.
olympiakomania 1 year ago
@olympiakomania Daaaaaam your dumb daaaaam
Albanian2Be 1 year ago
@olympiakomania Etruscans were Greeks from Lydia!!! Realy?
Greek scholars can not read even one word from Lydian scripts as they can not read Etruscan's either.. How comes then?
I suggest stop writing from your stomach here that at least you can avoid to make Greeks being more funny and looking ignorant here.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@deeptuber109 Etruscans were Greeks from Lydia but their language has changed. But there were some similarities with the lydian language. Herodotus said that and Alberto Piazza proved with DNA tests that this is the truth. We have to many philisophers and historicals in our history. What the turks have? NOTHING! That explains a lot who is ignorant , funny and................ STUPID BARBARIAN!
olympiakomania 1 year ago
@olympiakomania ..... but their language has changed.!!!
By writing this lie you better get lost .. you thief. Your Western lecturers declare that they know nothing about Etruscan language.. but you even know it's changed.. Einstein.
Very convincing!!! Just go and play your Greek flut somewhere else.. bagger.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@deeptuber109 Is very convincing because if you read the Greek history you will see where the Etruscans come from! Because those ages only the Greeks whrote the history in books! Greek people from the Aegean sea built Lydia in Minor Asia. Many years later some Lydians left from Lydia because of the Persian invasion and they go to Northen Italy and they built Etruria!
olympiakomania 1 year ago
@deeptuber109 Also the labguage was a Greek dialect and it was changed after moving in Italy! Because the Etruscans were in touch with Mycenaeans , Arcadians , Phrygians etc. And all of these dialects were mixed and as a result Etruscans had a different language. Do youbelive that Etruscans are your ancestors? That's crazy if your turkish! If someone is close minded like you nothing is convincing!
olympiakomania 1 year ago
@olympiakomania Etruscan language was proven years ago as an agglunative language with Ural-Altaic root. The problem was on reading and understanding the Etruscan. They are a sperated arm of Lydians from Anatolia as Modern DNA tests proved as exactly told by Herodot.. and Lydian scriptures can not be read by Greek scholars. Early Lydian rock and stone carves written by runic alphabet with Turkic tamgas not with letters. You satisfy yourself that civilization suddenly poped up in Greece..
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@deeptuber109 There wasn't any turkish civilization or turkish scriptures or something similar those years! First of all Lydians were from Aegean sea and they removed to Lydia! And after too many years some Lydians removed to Tuscany and the builted Etruria! That explains a lot were they came from! About the language is affected by many Greek dialects! Like the Romans and the Latin language!
olympiakomania 1 year ago
@olympiakomania Greece is accepted as the base of European and dependently Western Civilization..not of World civilization. Greek civilization starts at 390 - 400 BC. There were Sumer civilization 2500 -3000 BC, Egypt 2000 BC, and this line goes to Minoan civilization in Crete island. From Minoans passed to Mykenes and to Attica finally. Greek Alphabet also taken from Phonecians. The base of all that sourced from Central Asia by Great Migrations started at 14.000 BC towards all over the World.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@olympiakomania Leave aside Central Asia and Caucasia remains. Let's look at Anatolia.; Cunni Cave in Erzurum, Salyamach Village, Scriptures in Proto-Turkic Runic alphabet. 18 letters of that scriptures found in early Egyptian hyrogliphes. Eskisehir - Yazilikaya (Written rock) 24 meters X 20 meters monument found identical with Central Asian Turkic and Etruscan scriptures. Kutahya Monument 6000 BC. Hundreds like those in Anatolia. Plus Frigian, Lydian scriptures are all in Proto-Turkic language
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@deeptuber109 Take Sumer 3000 - 2500 Bc. Sumerian - Turkish Dictionary published. 1500 words with pronounciation and by meaning same as Turkish words. 160 of those words are used in today's Turkish. Even compound words like "kap-kachag" (Pots and plates) by same sound same meaning and we use today in our Turkish. Sumerians were a Proto-Turkic speaking people from Central Asia. Lydians, Frigians, Trojans and many other were all speaking Turkic.. not Turkish but Turkic.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
etruscans r not armenians period
LupuArdelean 1 year ago
Urartians were the Turkic Forefathers of Armenians.
IdelUralState 1 year ago
There is no video abt Armenians not accopmanied by jealous georgians whom Armenians wrote even their alphabet, but since we didn't write capital letters as well for them those monkeys until now don;t have them! lol
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
Etruscans were one of proto-Slavic peoples!
FalconfromRF 1 year ago
keep demonstrating what i wrote you are nothing but bunch of ugly liers who keep themself happy by lying and using others stuff Bagrationi are from the Tao Klarjeti Region of Georgia from Speri fuck off Xachik back to India
Armenians have no Connection its Caucasian Georgian iberian Connection
Armenians are Indians
GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi 1 year ago
@ GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi ETO TBYA NADO OTPARVIT V INDIYU GOGI ,TEBYA!! ; TUPIMI BILI TUPIMI I OSTALIS : VI NA SH4ET TUPOSTI OBGONYALI AZEROV))))))))
MsXatab 1 year ago
@GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi What ? We are from India ?) How funny and aneducated you are.)) Have you ever read a single book about the orgins of Armenians ?))) I guess no. Do you know which is our language's place in Indo-European family ?) So go and read books of famous historians and scholars to educate yourself before barking against Armenians.
NairiUrartu 1 year ago
yes also Armenians smell is the best in the world i know it :))))))))))))tfuuuuuuuuuu
GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi 1 year ago
i think armenians do have a connection with Etruscans even though there is more evidence with albanian... why because armenian is a Phrygian language, with had a connection with thracians...... but trojans considered themselves dardanians who were thracians and also discribed as illyrians.... meny historians and people believe that thracians and illyrians were the same people who spoke the same language and had the same culture.
sweet4melody 1 year ago
i don't know if armenians are related to Etruscans, but there is more evidence with albanian, i've read a lot of Etruscan and i was superised to see the connection with albanian language and was able to translate. the truth is that Etruscans claimed they were from Troy, Trojans considered themselves as DARDANIANS and dardanians were a thracian-illyrian tribe, ancestors of kosovo albanians
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GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi 2 years ago
hahahahahah funny Armenians are 90% Persians and 10 % Georgian hurrian local mix
you are very funny Hurrians did not speak indo-European language Armenains are very ugly and funny its kinda like indian kerpals are proud :)))))))
GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi 2 years ago
@GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi gogi a ti na sebya smotrel v zerkale ?))) ; TI NOSOROG EBANIY
MsXatab 1 year ago
Armenians are really primitive they really look like Indians and actually came from India Urartu was Hurrian Georgian nothing to do with Armenia
GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi 2 years ago
ay khiar
Hurrians are the ancestors of armenians , go learn history
Armenyyan 2 years ago
@GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi Stupid Armenophob go educate yourself and learn about origins of the Armenians from reliable sources not from Azeri falsifikators who confirm that Turks appeared in Transcaucasia 3000 years ago. And learn about origins of Bagrationi dinasty. Names Ashot, Smbat, Bagrat are widеspreaded among the Armenians. Also these names were common within Armenian dinasty Bagratuny.
NairiUrartu 1 year ago 2
@NairiUrartu can you tell me y u guys call ur country Hayestan ?Where did hays come from and what does it have to do with Armenia?Thank you.
TheBuffaloeye 10 months ago
YUP YUPPPP LMFAOOOO Etruscs DNA 97% Turkic/Altaic, this is the scientific fact, but you shameless, pathetic, miserable armos still say They were armenians. What can you expect from lying piece of shit armenians? SERIOUSLY YOU ARMOS NEED HELP, YOU CUNTS ARE SICK IN THE HEAD... GET A LIFE PIGS
basbugataturk01 2 years ago
every Armenian Genocide denier
is cursed
and will dye in severe cancer pain
AMEN
AMEN
AMEN
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
ARMENIAN parlament is going to accept a law against ARMENIAN GENOCIDE deniers
after that blame yourself
every ARMENIAN act will be legal
and without mersi
with all Armenian love
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
Anglo Saxon Chronicle - part 1 - "The island Britain (1) is 800 miles long, and 200 miles broad. And there are in the island five nations; English, Welsh (or
British) (2), Scottish, Pictish, and Latin. The first inhabitants were the Britons, who came from Armenia (3), and
first peopled Britain southward.
DMGIT 2 years ago
I read it also
with all Armenian love
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
Yeah!.. Turks not only killed all those.
Turks also boiled them in big cauldrons and ate them all.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
deep
thank you
it could absolutely be truth
you know better your turk ancestors,
thank you for sharing that creual information
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
@deeptuber109 I can understand that. US Armenians are tasty, not tough and stringy like Azari (slow cooking helps). They don't give you gas like Syrians. Serbs are OK if marinated in milk for a few hours. Otherwise they are a bit gamey. Greeks are good if marinated in Ouzo. They usually come pre marinated. It is good if the cook is also "marinated. "
Poles make a fine sausage.
Let go of your anger. Life is too short for that.
elfcounsul 11 months ago
@elfcounsul
Kentucky Fried Cheaters supersede all though.. served as main dish to world people today.
Right.. Life's short, tail of the lie.. too long
Yet prefer recipes of Asia Mother in Asia Minor.
deeptuber109 11 months ago
This deeptuber turkish guy is such a genius! He claims current day west tukey( also known as Greece, Byzantium) was inhabited by turks 4000 years ago. I know some people try to rewrite history but going to this extent is outrageous.
ynonono 2 years ago
guyks and arsucks lie again.
Azerbaycan 2 years ago
I really don't understand why some turk keep on talking about etruscans=turks.
It's not a matter of science or not.
It's a matter of time.
Turks were not in Anatolie yet at that time.
Then later arrived and mixed with ancient western anatolians and the ottoman empire brought even some europeans there later in time.
That's why you find sometimes some italian similar to some turk as well as you can find some slavics or central europeans similar to turks.
AlessandroFarnese 2 years ago
The rest what Camporealli apllied .. crross word test or what.. I don't know. These are Archeology experts. I don't know their way, I was not with them. For me his acceptance is very important.
Surely he can not publish translated inscriptions now.. give him some time to learn the language. He will.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
You say you don't know their way and their work, but yet you say you know their opinion. How exactly you know a scientific opinion without have read the actual study/paper?? Are you friends with them and you had a little chat?
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
No. I said.. I wasn't there. We listen, we watch, we read official declarations of serious people and institutions.
DNA wise some serious names given to you.
You don't believe them.. than you believe who?
Live the term "Turk" to us. For us "Turk" is one nation with a unique history and very rich culture.
I say you are Aborigine from Australian desert. It's done.. finish.. doesn't really matters how you declare yourself. This is the way of yours to debate.. irrational.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Etruscans according to herodotus were from lydia, Turks now live on regions including Lydia and when invaded Anatolia mixed with indigenous peoples, so pretty rational modern Turks to have close genetic kinship to etruscans. Although other populations too share similarities according to various researches, even North Africans as you pasted from some research. That would mean according to your logic Etruscans were Africans. What you re trying to point out has no relation to the researches
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
@Apokorwnioths1984 Obviously what I wrote about judging the value of historians, archeologists, genealogists passed so far
over your biased head you never even felt the draught.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Claiming all the academic world of history and archaeology conspired against Turkic peoples of the globe to hide the "older" and "taller" secret pyramids of them, is a bit irational.
On the other hand, you praise geneticists who write one sentence in a paper which can suit your theory, they are not then part of the "conspirancy", only the ones who can't fit to your theory are. Very interesting and scientific logic to be taken seriously on youtube.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
First the language of Etruscans is an agglunative language which is rooted from Ural-Altaic group. There is no quarrel on that.
Some scholars put the theory that they can read and understand Etruscan scriptures in Proto-Turkic. The theory powered by several DNA tests. So.. Their language and DNA is closer to Turkic people than anybody else.. But you are free to call them Martians or Armenians.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
I meant this about the roots of etruscan language from ural-altaic group. It is one of the inexistent/ discredited things you take for granted.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
Proto-Turkic language sourced from Turkish and Kazakh scholars, correct. Not published yet by any Western authority ..correct.
But Etruscan language is an agglunative language and this is accepted, published by all.
And in agglunative language owners Etruscan DNA matches with Turks 3 times more than the other candidates.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
There is some distance between Etruscan been agglutinative, to being altaic-uralic or Turkic. It is like saying "x individual is a human", "turks are humans", "therefore x is a Turk" LOL .
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
what turk DNA are you talking?
the so called turk nation is consisted more than 70 nations and nationalities
what DNA are you talking about
"clever" turk?
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
@armhumanbeing Ignorance should be hitting the ceiling in your dark Armenia to say Muslim Turks mixed with other pagans and Christians. That's not a habit in Anatolia my dear.. never has been.
The Turkish DNA is the same one you have been tasting by centuries. Wana taste again.. just try and see once more if they are Turks or 70.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
deepik
I can feel your fear of MURDERER
from his VICTIM,
you should be,
you are curiouse to know when ARMENIANS are coming back to take their motherland back?
very soon very soon.
find a place to hide away
turk DNA-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaha
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
@armhumanbeing I know today's Armenia suffering of poverty but is it to that extend that they closed even mental hospitals and pushed the patients out ?
Feel real sorry for you kid.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
thank you for being so emotional
I can feel your heart ackes and you feeling real sorry
thanks
armhumanbeing 2 years ago
So we have a language common point (agglunative) and a most matching DNA group (Turks)
Approving reports for DNA match signed by whom? Many Western scholars. I posted many names, institutions. Just scroll down and refresh.
If you need names for Linguistic finds I will post them also.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
It will become boring if i repeat the same about DNA one more time. 1) As i said genetics are irrelevant to identities of ancient cultures, 2) Turks were found 3 times closer in a specific study, which compared Etruscans to specific sample populations, yet you twist it and generalize it. In other studies there are other populations with similar distances to Etruscans, one of them is the population of Lemnos.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
You mess up all case. Present day living people of Toscana showed close affinity to present day living people of Lemnos.
In another test series, present day Toscana people's DNAs showed no match at all with the 48 DNA samples taken from bones found in ancient Etruscan necropols plus Turkish component in their gene pool appears three times as large as in the other populations. Lemnos people's gene pool is far away to ancient Etruscan DNAs.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Hidden pyramids are in today's Xiang Province of P.R. China.. Uighur Turks land. The land is called East Turkistan and for long years nobody allowed to enter the area. 100% sure there were some people before Communist China invaded East Turkistan in 1949. I understood China case but I don't understand no hearing, no exposition bfore1949 neither by West nor by Soviets. This I call "hidden case" just as no scriptures, no tablets nor any parchment exposed from Etruria except funeral statements.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Maybe there is on quarrel between you and yourself on this theory? Or between the few nationalistic turkish scholars, the only ones on the planet that give credibility to such theory? Unless you live in a different planet , in which indeed they have deciphered Etruscan language and consider it proto turkish, because in this one, the possibility is considered very small if not inexistent, and only maintained by turkic nationalistic scholars
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
I don't know where it came from Ughur have any relation to the Chinese pyramids. If i am not mistaken Ughur didn't even appear in the region they are now in China, centuries A.D. Chinese have one of the oldest civilizations, documented histories, and written languages on earth (along with Greek, Egyptian, Messopotamian, Indian) . They date nearly 3000 BC at least, so what you claim also opposes to common sense , and timeline of history.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
Uighurs.. They are not in China. They are in their mother land, East Turkistan where the pyramids are and under occupation of China. Chinese called their country "xiang" means "slave land".
It's very interesting to see you call them "Chinese pyramids" like a set up alarm clock. Uighur Pyramids are aged 8000 - 12000 BC so is their civilization when Chinese had not even been out of their caves.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
12000 BC?I doubt the date you post is real and has a base. Nevertheless even if Chinese hadn't been out of their caves in 12000 BC, there is nothing indicating Ughur that postdate Chinese had been out
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
You say.. you doubt.
I say.. having doubt is a lot better than having prejudice to find out historical facts. Yes at least let's have some doubt if greatest civilizations of mankind (Sumer, Egypt, Etrusc, Maya, Inka..) are all described as;
- We don't know where they came from.
- Mysterious people
- They had a strange language
- We can not read their inscriptions
Yes.. at least we have to have some doubt as all belong to mankind.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
As you wrote I pasted the conclusion of reports and You also write my pointing out has no relation to researches (contradiction!). Read the reports and see how they eliminated the possibilities of race mixture. I can not put all complete texts of reports here from several institutions in 1000 boxes of You Tube. But be sure those Universities and genom Centers were aware of all questions like yours that may arise.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
DNA tests don't power this theory of yours, and they clearly speak about possible gene flow of etruscans to modern populations, they don't deal Turks as the direct descendants of Etruscans.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
etruscs and sumer 1 nation they are arian-celtic, the mummy and pyramid cultures belong to Celtic-aryans, Celtic-aryans mixed up with mongols then created turks, celtic aryans known as Yue-chi or tocharians in central asia!
bangoramas 2 years ago
turks are terrorist arab and they smell like shit!
bangoramas 2 years ago
armens are a thracian tribe so that means that etruscans we maybe armenians
8hennry8barca 2 years ago
turks have nothing to do with etruscans. turks are mongolian gypsies. they came frome mongolia and now they steal everything and btw they look mongolian!!
8hennry8barca 2 years ago
Go and take a pill for pain..
deeptuber109 2 years ago
As far as I know, Armenian origin is Frigian and also is related to the Basques
laguys818 2 years ago
And.. it's proven but I know it's hard to digest for you that Turks was in Anatolia even in 4000 BC. Read about Turukkus, read about famous Akadian Emperor Naram-Sin's tablets mentioning the name of the Turkish King resisting his invasion in Anatolia when no Greeks were there.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Maybe all these are proven/accepted in your dream , but further than that i don't think so.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
My dear neighbor. I can not write the richest history of the world.. so called "Turks". I suggest you go to Uighur Turks' culture and civilization which is hidden and forbidden by Chinese now as Westerns hiding Etruscan reality and Sumerian facts as you Greeks and Europe does the same to Lydians.. watch them, read about and follow the route to Italy. This is called history with facts and logic.. not the sudden pop up civilizations of mysteries, unreadables or alien connections.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
I wonder how it happened only you have this logic and the truth of historical facts. Isn't that a bit strange?
Ughur are turkic peoples of central Asia (nothing their culture to do with Europe) like you, and you should relate yourselves to them instead of Ancient European civilizations you are trying so hard to make a connection in order to present yourselves as indigenous.
Chinese don't forbid anything, actually the western media themselves due to political reasons reproduce such lies.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
Exactly..That's what I tried to explain. No connection is the way to write history for you. History is a science not pink fairy tales. There are connections and vast influence to each civilization by the other. But West says for Etruscans, Sumers, Lydians and for Egyptians "We don't know where they came from - sudden pop up civilizations - scripts not readable except late Egyptians hieroglyphs. This is not disability.. this is hiding the truth!
deeptuber109 2 years ago
In fact there are connections and all start in East Turkistan with great Uighur civilizations. There you will find many pyramids and mummies older than Egyptian mummies and a way better preserved mummies. A white pyramid is double size of Egypt's biggest pyramid Khufu and placed in same plan with the smaller pyramids around as the pyramids placed in Egypt. This is coincidence for you no connection. To enter that part of Xiang province is forbidden by Chinese.. not as you made up "free".
deeptuber109 2 years ago
There between lays Sumer. Latest attempt from Western historians is to connect their civilization to aliens and UFOs. Their unreadable tablets all read by Turkologists who knows Proto - Turkic language and Turkic script tamgas. Shown to Western Academies thousands of same words matching even with today's Turkish by meaning also and many coupling words (Sound and meaning) which is almost impossible if you don't speak same language.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
A Kazakh Professor who (Kazim Mirsan) knows 7 western language and 7 Turkish dialects went to Egypt and read 450 unreadable early Egypt hieroglyph cylinders and delivered the documents to Egyptians. There he found the names of First 3 Egyptian High Priests. They were all Sumerian names. No connection!!
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Same Professor went to Italy and deciphered famous Etruscan Marsiliano Tablet and many others in Proto - Turkish and show the way how to read them to famous Etruscolog Prof. Camporealli. DNA test followed this incident. What you wrote about is wrong. DNA taken from bones foumd in Etruscan burial chambers aged 700 BC. and showed no match with today's Italian people.. not a bit. Your theory is wrong.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
I really think that you aren't in so much connection to reality,from the things you say. First of all methodology of extracting dna from bones and comparing to few peoples of a country is in a primitive stage, and not so reliable. However Greeks of Lemnos too were found to match Etruscan remains. Second the dna of people of a modern culture is irrelevant to identifying the culture/language of the respective ancient ones
And third name me the work published of this Camporealli deciphering Etrusk
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
Prof. Camporeali is the most authorized and well known Etruscologist of Italy. In contrast with the other Italian scholars he is not approaching the case from nationalistic view. He is world famous by his works trying to prove Etruscan art influenced by Greek art.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
This was the reason "How to decipher Etruscan scripts" briefing given to him. Prof. Mirsan said after a full day working, Camporeali accepted that Etruscans were Turks. This kind of lies not told in that level of scientific world. Prof. Camporealli can not publish anything simply because he doesn't know Proto-Turkic.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
DNA testing is well advanced now. If some hesitation exist do you think western world would declare this? No way.. specially Italians wouldn't. They delivered main base of Western civilization from Italy to Turks. This is not 1 simple test. American Stanford University and 2 İtalian Universities with many scholars from the world made countless DNA tests and research which took 10 years to conclude. Not that simple.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Some parts of final Declaration by The American Society of Human Genetics;
-Etruscans differ in two aspects: they show closer relationships both to North Africans and to Turks than any contemporary population. In particular, the Turkish component in their gene pool appears three times as large as in the other populations.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
-On the contrary, the similarity between the Etruscan and Turkish gene pools may indeed reflect some degree of gene flow.
This study was supported by funds from the Universities of Ferrara and Florence, the Italian Ministry of Universities (MIUR [FISR and COFIN 2003]), the Fondazione Cassa di Risparmio di Ferrara, and the Fondazione Dino Terra.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
We are grateful to Robert Tykot, Vincent Macaulay, Peter Forster, Jaume Bertranpetit, Claudio Bravi, George van Driem, Graeme Barker, and Tom Rasmussen, for several suggestions and for critical reading of a preliminary manuscript; to S. Sanna and S. Conti, for their technical contribution; and to E. Pacciani, who provided us with the Magliano, Marsiliana, and Tarquinia samples
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Genetic Study
Cristiano Vernesi, David Caramelli, Isabelle Dupanloup, Giorgio Bertorelle, Martina Lari, Enrico Cappellini, Jacopo Moggi-Cecchi, Brunetto Chiarelli, Loredana Castrì, Antonella Casoli, Francesco Mallegni, Carles Lalueza-Fox, and Guido Barbujani
Dipartimento di Biologia, Università di Ferrara, Ferrara, Italy; Dipartimento di Biologia Animale e Genetica,
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Laboratori di Antropologia, Università di Firenze, Firenze, Italy; Dipartimento di Biologia Evoluzionistica e Sperimentale, Università di Bologna, Bologna, Italy; Dipartimento di Chimica Generale e Inorganica, Chimica Analitica, Chimica Fisica, Università di Parma, Parma, Italy;
deeptuber109 2 years ago
Dipartimento di Scienze Archeologiche, Università di Pisa, Pisa, Italy; and Unitat de Biologia Evolutiva, Departament de Ciències Experimentals i de la Salut, Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain
Address for correspondence and reprints: Dr. Guido Barbujani, Dipartimento di Biologia, via Borsari 46, I-44100 Ferrara, Italy.
Present affiliation: Centre integratif de genomique (CIG), Lausanne, Switzerland.
Received December 5, 2003; Accepted January 28, 2004.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
All these respectful scientists approved and signed this declaration. If it doesn't satisfy.. I can post the lists of American and Turkish scholars and scientists worked, signed and declared DNA tests with the same results. To be anti-Turkish is acceptable.. to be anti-scientific... you name it!
deeptuber109 2 years ago
"Camporeali accepted that Etruscans were Turks. " , "Prof. Camporealli can not publish anything simply because he doesn't know Proto-Turkic." . How exactly Camporealli accepted Etruscans were Turks if he doesn't know Proto-Turkic, meta-Turkic or whatever, and most important , WHERE he accepted that if he didn't publish anything?? Maybe in your imagination?
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
One can investigate the case by the assistance of others he trusts in. As long as one receives trustful explanations by basing on them related questions is asked at intellectual level. For him to learn to read "A" as "At", "B" as "Ok" in Proto - Turkic is not so difficult . This called reading with "TAMGA"s not with "Letters". And putting the words and sentences together and and ask the translation from a Kazakh assistant not so difficult for them.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
The rest you post actually are of zero importance. As i said today's genetic identity of Turks is irrelevant to what Ancient indigenous populations were. If someone examines today an African American he will get western African dna, that doesn't mean Ancient Western Africans had USA culture , were singing rap and had English as language.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
You better concentrate the subject of this video. It says "Origin" !!!.. not the culture. just don't twist it again. Culture is following debate. Exactly as you write in your sample that negro is proven to be African origin as Etruscans are proved to be Turk origin.. not by my posting by world's accepted and respected institutions after 10 years of delicate work.
deeptuber109 2 years ago
"Turk" is a cultural term not genetic one, and by saying "Etruscans had Turkish origin" is itself a contradiction and a joke since an ancient population couldn't be a modern one which didn't live anywhere near), a term you won't find to any study/book/paper and especially to the ones you refer to.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
I am not being neither anti-scientific nor anti-turkish, you are actually the definition of anti-scientific by contradicting history/archeology/linguistics, and using some studies which actually don't prove your point, or even worse, inexistent studies.
What Turkish scholars say is not a serious matter and you know it. There isn't any American or whatever scholar published any kind of study saying "Etruscans were Turks" , all this are your fairy tale.
Apokorwnioths1984 2 years ago
Literature shows the culture and character of the natons.
From Balkans to Chinese wall all Turkic tribes we have one single legend of born.. "Ergenekon Legend" and it starts with a she gray wolf "Asena"
Etruscan's legend starts with a she gray wolf also and her name is "R-asena"
No connection? Oo yes.. coincidence.
For a peaceful mind even "Turks" and "E-trusc" are enough close to understand how they called themselves.
deeptuber109 2 years ago