@wexfordman20 Well they were only around for roughly a year and the last half of the AC44s weren't even around for a year when SP went under. They didn't get the AC44s until 1995 and the C44-9Ws in 1994 plus the Dash 9s were used in Illinois, Wisconsin and Great Lake Region as well as Colorado on occasion until the AC locos arrived the following year and most were reassigned to the Sunset Route and former Cotton Belt lines. The AC44s were used mostly on coal and ore trains in Utah and Colorado
Southern Pacific was absorbed by the Union Pacific in 1996. This footage was taken in 1997, roughly only a year after the merger, so unpatched Espee units were still the norm. Nowadays, Espee locomotives are rare because some were either patched or have been completely repainted into Union Pacific's yellow paint scheme. As of 2011, UP has retired nearly all of its older Southern Pacific locomotives, making chances of seeing them even rarer.
does anyone know the maximum number of cars on a mostly loaded train can pull eastbound over the Tehachapis? and what's the maximum on about the mostly empty westbound trains over the Tehachapis? or at least in general?
WowowowowWOW! Now that's railroading! Perfect GE chug, squealing flanges, filthy SP locos, great plumes of exhaust and screaming EMD helpers! STUNNING!
Notice that it was VERY rare to see both SP AC4400's and C44-9W's (DC) mixed in together. Seeing I railfanned Tehachapi a few times when the 3-digit AC's were fairly new in '95, and '96, I did a double-take when the trailing SP8130 (Dash-9) went by in the video. Cool catch
That is why in my frelance "SP buys UP" HO scale railroad Im gonna go away from speed lettering and back to SP block lettering, easier to maintain and cheeper to paint, ha ha.
Huh? This makes absolutely no sense, SP Speed Lettering and older SP Roman Block lettering were basically the same thing costing just about the same thing to apply on a locomotive but one with larger white hood decals and a reflective sill stripe. Soot on gray is soot on gray in each paint scheme case...
The 2 helpers in the vid are of course rebuild Morrison Knudsen SD40M-2's. Notice they are sister units - SP8579 & SP8580 (hard to read under that SP tunnel grime!). Both are unique in being part of 11 units out of the 133 SD40M-2 order built on ex-CNW SD45 frames but featuring the rear radiator section of ex-GP40's. Minus the SD45 flare, these unique "MK kitbashes" resemble a shorter framed SD45-2. Even with the smaller 16 cylinder prime mover, those 2 still sound good pumpin up the hill.
man i noticed tha up and southern pacific always strained there engines with pulling long and heavy loads with only 2 engines i never unnderstood that man
Thanks. But I realize I could have put together a better vid from the original footage, and format it so that it should now be played in YouTube newer High Quality format. I'll go back soon to the video editing table and post a "redux" version.
I agree, SP at it's best, loved it when SP ran a monster drag over the loop, and when Santa Fe grew their trains in the mid 80s, it made the loop that much more spectacular!
You're right! I don't understand how I I got into such mistake. I'll update my description to mention an AC4400CW (#356). The second unit is a C44-9W indeed (#8130). Thanks.
great video. you got some great shots. check out some of my vids. i lived in the area for about 7 years and took alot of video which I am slowly adding to youtube.
There used to be a webcam in a location close to the loop. With some luck it can still be online. It's a nice place to go. Each time I've been there, there were friendly train watchers to chat with.
Yep! This is what draws someone like me to California.
(I live on the top of NY state)
tmotorman 2 months ago
nice video, sp never much ran the ac4400cw's with the the dash9s that much
wexfordman20 5 months ago
@wexfordman20 Well they were only around for roughly a year and the last half of the AC44s weren't even around for a year when SP went under. They didn't get the AC44s until 1995 and the C44-9Ws in 1994 plus the Dash 9s were used in Illinois, Wisconsin and Great Lake Region as well as Colorado on occasion until the AC locos arrived the following year and most were reassigned to the Sunset Route and former Cotton Belt lines. The AC44s were used mostly on coal and ore trains in Utah and Colorado
ShowTyme1994 1 week ago
@wexfordman20 but were later used throughout the system as needed.
ShowTyme1994 1 week ago
Typical SP shot train in the Loop. Great video. Thanks.
MrW6MX 7 months ago
I see many patched SP AC4400CWs here in California (West Oakland Yard),but there are still a few out there NOT patched!
ROADTRAIN23 7 months ago
the 1st helper unit in not running
xx193941 9 months ago
how come an un-patched sp is rare when you have two right here? what did they do with them today?
rtzook 1 year ago
@rtzook
Southern Pacific was absorbed by the Union Pacific in 1996. This footage was taken in 1997, roughly only a year after the merger, so unpatched Espee units were still the norm. Nowadays, Espee locomotives are rare because some were either patched or have been completely repainted into Union Pacific's yellow paint scheme. As of 2011, UP has retired nearly all of its older Southern Pacific locomotives, making chances of seeing them even rarer.
alladinmoua 1 year ago
does anyone know the maximum number of cars on a mostly loaded train can pull eastbound over the Tehachapis? and what's the maximum on about the mostly empty westbound trains over the Tehachapis? or at least in general?
Illifornia2000 1 year ago
1997 footage and still good
RedLego391 1 year ago
WowowowowWOW! Now that's railroading! Perfect GE chug, squealing flanges, filthy SP locos, great plumes of exhaust and screaming EMD helpers! STUNNING!
madleech 1 year ago
Notice that it was VERY rare to see both SP AC4400's and C44-9W's (DC) mixed in together. Seeing I railfanned Tehachapi a few times when the 3-digit AC's were fairly new in '95, and '96, I did a double-take when the trailing SP8130 (Dash-9) went by in the video. Cool catch
espeeboy 2 years ago
great video!! the only time they were clean was when they were new!!!
TLew01 2 years ago
I love how SP never took their engines to the wash rack! Those two salty SD40s are sooty as hell and thats the SP way!
est86leo 2 years ago
That is why in my frelance "SP buys UP" HO scale railroad Im gonna go away from speed lettering and back to SP block lettering, easier to maintain and cheeper to paint, ha ha.
Joshjeff1611 2 years ago
Huh? This makes absolutely no sense, SP Speed Lettering and older SP Roman Block lettering were basically the same thing costing just about the same thing to apply on a locomotive but one with larger white hood decals and a reflective sill stripe. Soot on gray is soot on gray in each paint scheme case...
espeeboy 2 years ago
The 2 helpers in the vid are of course rebuild Morrison Knudsen SD40M-2's. Notice they are sister units - SP8579 & SP8580 (hard to read under that SP tunnel grime!). Both are unique in being part of 11 units out of the 133 SD40M-2 order built on ex-CNW SD45 frames but featuring the rear radiator section of ex-GP40's. Minus the SD45 flare, these unique "MK kitbashes" resemble a shorter framed SD45-2. Even with the smaller 16 cylinder prime mover, those 2 still sound good pumpin up the hill.
espeeboy 2 years ago
I like the chugging noises on the GE's :) 5*****'s
DouglasP201 2 years ago 2
Love this video
marodude752002 2 years ago
beautiful EMD sound at the end.
JoaoT805 2 years ago
Nothing like the sound of 645s (or 567s or 710s for that matter) plugging away in Run 8.
silicon212 2 years ago
right on.
JoaoT805 2 years ago
WOW! That's quite the plume of smoke as the lead end of the train exits the tunnel! Nice video and look forward to seeing more.
busrailfan 2 years ago
Athearn makes an HO Scale of the SP AC4400 Road number 355 :)
RyanSamuelBarry 2 years ago
oh ok thanks
do you have any more shots of southern pacific trains climbing grades and through tunnels
i like to turn the volume up alot when nobody is home especially because of that bass speaker that i have it rumbles the hole house
RRYankfan 2 years ago 3
could you upload more please
fave+5star+subscribed
RRYankfan 2 years ago
These are all my video tapes already. That's it. No more. But what I can is to re-edit them to release a Hi Quality clip.
tvnshack 2 years ago
man i noticed tha up and southern pacific always strained there engines with pulling long and heavy loads with only 2 engines i never unnderstood that man
brandynkjackson 3 years ago
damn, I wonder what the ampmeter was reading?
thad73va 3 years ago
It must have been great to see nonstop gray and red bloody noses and red and silver warbonnets, now it's all armor yellow and orange.
trainboy94 3 years ago
great video and job, thanks
BaronvonBavert 3 years ago
Back when SP and ATSF ruled the rails in tehachapi. Awesome video tvnshack!
andross51 3 years ago
Thanks. But I realize I could have put together a better vid from the original footage, and format it so that it should now be played in YouTube newer High Quality format. I'll go back soon to the video editing table and post a "redux" version.
tvnshack 3 years ago
I agree, SP at it's best, loved it when SP ran a monster drag over the loop, and when Santa Fe grew their trains in the mid 80s, it made the loop that much more spectacular!
likestallwomen 3 years ago
Very nice there. It's nice to see some of the fallen flag railroads through the Tehachapi's.
BNSFUPrailfan 3 years ago
that last sd40 is smoking a lot.
trevorandy 3 years ago
The first locomotive is an AC44, it's in the 300 series. I like that Uke on the flatcar!
zartok35 3 years ago
You're right! I don't understand how I I got into such mistake. I'll update my description to mention an AC4400CW (#356). The second unit is a C44-9W indeed (#8130). Thanks.
tvnshack 3 years ago
Nice Video, got to love those SP Trains...
Sure do miss them. Where I live they used to roll by all the time, then UP took over.
xeltinyx 3 years ago
great video. you got some great shots. check out some of my vids. i lived in the area for about 7 years and took alot of video which I am slowly adding to youtube.
gibbons3458 3 years ago
Sure will do! Thanks for dropping by.
tvnshack 3 years ago
MArvellous. Thats the SP the way I remembered it. Great video
roundhouser 3 years ago
If only I had shot more films while I was living not too far. Now I'm 8000 miles away! Thanks for the comment ;-)
tvnshack 3 years ago
I wanna go, I wanna go!!!!
toorivers 3 years ago
There used to be a webcam in a location close to the loop. With some luck it can still be online. It's a nice place to go. Each time I've been there, there were friendly train watchers to chat with.
tvnshack 3 years ago