Treadle/finger engine MkII ( Video 2 ) Finished!

[NIGHTWATCHERUK01]

Sorry I ment the cnc type cutter in your tool post....It has has insired me to make one for my mini lathe....and it does look awesome



[Dividedhead]

@NIGHTWATCHERUK01 Great! That's one of my main reasons for the videos. To hopefully inspire others :-)

If you haven't yet finished your ball turner, I made one for a mini lathe and all the build notes are on madmodder net. (obviously you'll have to put a dot in there) Search under my user name or mini ball turner. Might help?

Thank you for the comments and clarification on the CNC bit :)

[NIGHTWATCHERUK01]

love the inspired cnc toolpost and the use of the ball turning jig

[Dividedhead]

@NIGHTWATCHERUK01 I'm not too sure what you mean? I don't have any CNC?

Still, it sounds like you like what I have done so I'm happy with that :-)

[miniman241]

Your awesome

[Dividedhead]

@miniman241 LOL! Far from it! Glad you like what I have made though. Thank you. :-)

[marceloramone1]

dividedhead,profissional muito qualificado,tudo de bom para voce ai.........

[Dividedhead]

@marceloramone1 Obrigado. Muito feliz que você gosta do meu trabalho. :-)

Take it easy.

Ralph.

[marceloramone1]

torneiro mecanico fudido,o cara e fera................obrigado por honrar nossa profissao.

[Dividedhead]

@marceloramone1 Eu não falam português. Mas eu acho que você gosta do meu trabalho? Obrigado :-)

[TheMathedis]

i nearly jizzed at first site of the fly wheel!! looks awesome

[Dividedhead]

@TheMathedis

LOL... brings up an odd image!

Glad you liked it :-)

[TheMathedis]

@Dividedhead well yes maybe i did go over top but it made you get the point :)

and p.s. was it a plate of brass clamped in-between two steel plates?

kinda new to all this stuff only got about 2 years experience.

[Dividedhead]

@TheMathedis Think I failed to reply to this? ... Just incase.... Yes, steel and brass soft soldered together. Held on a mandrel with solder and flux sandwiched between the plates. heated with a blowtorch and when it melts the nut is tightened squeezing the solder out. Leave to cool naturally then machine as a solid part.

Quite dangerous due to the blow torch and the molten solder. If you do try it.... BE CAREFUL!! :-)

Oh, I've only had the machines for ~5 years now :-)

[Dividedhead]

@TheMathedis Think I failed to reply to this? ... Just incase.... Yes, steel and brass soft soldered together. Held on a mandrel with solder and flux sandwiched between the plates. heated with a blowtorch and when it melts the nut is tightened squeezing the solder out. Leave to cool naturally then machine as a solid part.

Quite dangerous due to the blow torch and the molten solder. If you do try it.... BE CAREFUL!! :-)

Oh, I've only had the machines for ~5 years now :-)

[TheMathedis]

@Dividedhead ahh right it just looks so ncie the wheel does i need to try that method :P

[7689568]

beautiful work!

[Dividedhead]

@7689568 Thank you. Much appreciated :-)

[szymczyk77]

seriously sexy machine work, great job

[Dividedhead]

@szymczyk77 Thank you. Much appreciated :-) 

[nameless527]

woah sweet finger engine, your good ^^

[Dividedhead]

@nameless527 Very nice of you to say so :-)

I have since learned some more info on the basic principals of the finger engine that I didn't have a clue about when designing this..... Hopefully my next few will work better and be more free flowing?

I've only been designing and building them for a year!! Not enough play time been had at all :-(

Life does get in the way of a good stint in the workshop!

(I know, more info than ever required..... Couldn't help myself!)

Ralph.

[nameless527]

@Dividedhead nono, i love talking about steam engine's, and people who make them ^^ (mechanic's) i have made 3 engine's myself, but i dont have a camera to share them on youtube

[Dividedhead]

@nameless527 Obviously I know nothing of your situation.But, you can get them ridiculously cheap these days,even on phones (most of my still pic's are taken with my phone)

Even beg an old digi camera off of a friend..There are lots of people with "old ones" that are perfectly serviceable.

Well, that's me thoughts on that. I'm just throwing some ideas out there.

Have you looked over the websites I displayed in the videos? lots to see and loads of info to glean :-)

[nameless527]

@Dividedhead well im out of a job at the moment, i have been for 11 months now, but i will film them some day and i share them with you :D if you like

[Dividedhead]

@nameless527 Well that sucks! I've never been out of work for that long (yet) I changed my career 5 years ago. Best thing I ever did.

Sometimes you just have to take the other fork!

When you get them posted give me a nudge and I'll watch them through :-)

Ralph.

[nameless527]

@Dividedhead ok thanks ralph, ill try to film em soon ^^

[bRadicalmagic1]

Crap, why aren't bicycles made with this?

[Dividedhead]

@bRadicalmagic1 Sorry, neglecting my replies!

I don't know really? I suppose find a few larger machines and a man could certainly have a go at it :- )

[griffin831]

wonderful engineering mate.

[Dividedhead]

@griffin831 Thank you. Always appreciate uplifting comments :-)



[pa5op]

sexy :P

[Dividedhead]

@pa5op Why thank you.... Most people just call me Ralph though :-)

Happy you like it ;-)

Ralph.

[daviddaddy]

That is So Nice GReat Job!!!!

[Dividedhead]

@daviddaddy Thank you.

It's always good to know that people like my efforts :-)

Ralph.

[fireicer]

WoW, how did you fasten/sandwich the aluminium and brass together like that.

[Dividedhead]

@fireicer Glad you like my idea :)

It's steel and brass...

They are joined using soft solder and a blow torch.

Not the safest practice ever but I've been using such tools for years so it seems like second nature.

I've used the technique in other projects too. works very well, and over a large flat area it's hold is very strong. Very easy to machine afterwards.

They must be clamped together too... Visit my "mini ball turner" thread at "madModder net" Process is shown in stills there.

[julapojken]

VERY nice work! Both with the video itself and the craftmenship.

[Dividedhead]

Thank you.

Always happy to receive such nice comments :-)

[tsukubadiver]

Artful and artistic craftsmanship. The sunburst engine turning on the base, the elegance of the milled and turned parts and the flowers in the background make this a lovely little machine, a work of art. Thanks for doing it and thanks for sharing it.

[Dividedhead]

Hi.

Thank you for your kind words.

Very happy that you like what I have made, both the engine and the video :)

It was my first go at engine turning/jewelling I was very pleased with the result.

The outdoor filming was due to the good light. The background is a nice side effect :)

Ralph.

[MrCorrosive101]

right on!! and great piece of art, i'm a fan!!

[Dividedhead]

Thank you.

It's very pleasing to know that others like my efforts :)

[catforce]

Very nice.. i love this maschine..

and good comment at 2:30

[Dividedhead]

Thank you.

Happy that you like it :-)

Music, I can say/do very little about the whole thing to the "powers that be" so I thought I'd make my point on my own vid'.

It just stuns me that the whole music industry doesn't see the potential selling power of a non profit video like this! I have numerous requests for artist names etc from other videos, and that's just the people who don't watch till the credits!

Anyway, I'm rambling..... Thanks again :)

[ViolentMetronome]

Beautiful workmanship! How did you join the different metals of the flywheel together?

[Dividedhead]

Thank you.

They are joined using soft solder and a blow torch.

Not the safest practice ever but I've been using such tools for years so it seems like second nature.

I've used the technique in other projects too. works very well, and over a large flat area it's hold is very strong. Very easy to machine afterwards.

Ralph.

[Dividedhead]

Gald you like it :-)

It's all done at home in my spare time, only had the machines for bout 3 years now. all in an approx 6ft 6in square little workshop.

I'm still learning every time I'm in there..... Friends and forums certainly help ;-)

I've not been in there a great deal recently, life

keeps getting in the way!

Ralph.

[Chrutonius]

Youtube can be so fucking ridiculous when the laws of copyright gets in front of people...

Still love all your vids, mechanics make me happy.

[Dividedhead]

The annoying bit is that you don't even get the opportinity to talk with the supposed other party!?

I think that there is something odd about the way this was done, feels all automated?

Random search for certain artists tunes?

Sucks no matter what though!

Thank you for the positive about my vid's :-)

Mechanical things are certainly fun!!

Ralph.

[chrigel1234]

This is a real gem, nice work and perfect finish. But what is it good for? Is it just a beautiful toy?

[Dividedhead]

Thank you.Not quite perfect,but I am very happy with it :-)

It was good for a machining excersise,I needed to focus on folowing a build through to completion and also challenge myself to get what was in my head into reality.Not an easy task!

It now sit's on a shelf and is dusted off when someone takes an interest....Including me:-)

It is fun to use ,so I suppose the "toy" description is relativly accurate.

Although "trophy" would be too,it's position on the shelf and my pride make it such :-)

[chrigel1234]

The two colored flywheel... what a simple but beautyful idea.

[23email]

what did you use to hold the flywheel together?

[Dividedhead]

Hi,

The flywheel was layered on a threaded arbour,as the one in the video(0:27) It had soft solder and flux between the layers.This was heated with a blowtorch untill the solder melted (the layers move together slowly when the solder melts) and then being very careful not to burn myself, the nut is tightened on the arbour to squeeze out the excess solder and air.

It is left to cool for a few hours and then can be machined as a solid block.

THIS CAN BE DANGEROUS if extreme care is not applied,

[orangmakan]

This is a great and universal tool, thanks for sharing the idea.

Beautiful machine...

Can you please tell me how you made the pattern to the base plate ?

I guess it is some kind of a grinding stone but if i try that with aluminium it does not lead me to a part with this effect.

[Dividedhead]

Hi, Thank you, glad you like the work :-)

The pattern is generally refered to as "engine turning" or "jeweling"

The use of a comercially available soft abrasive rod is the usual method.Although you could use a wooden dowel with a leather pool que tip glued on it and some valve grinding paste. Also a high abrasive eraser for ink removal and some wd40 to lubricate can work! It needs a bit of practice to keep the pattern in order, but that's part of the challenge!

Ralph.

[Dividedhead]

I searched for "jeweling" (using the " ") and one video displaying gun bolt jeweling by "midwayUSA" came to light.... You will gain a lot from a view of that.

Good luck.

[orangmakan]

Thank you very much, this was exactly the information i was looking for !

[Dividedhead]

No problem, That's why I post this stuff, as much to inspire and help as show off a little. I'm proud of what I have done in these last few years :-)

If you have the time, try a little look at w w w. Madmodder . net (remove the spaces!)

Lots of different engineering based topics there as well as a lot of very nice, happy and helpfull people....Most knowing far more than I. It's free to view ;-)

[TINKONPOOPKORNER]

you are fuckin nice dude!

[Dividedhead]

If you insist :-)

Thank you.

[WhitebreedIndian]

have you ever thought to join it with other devices to create 1 more efficent device or a more productive 1.

Handed pwoered to create real power??

Good jod though..

[Dividedhead]

Thank you.

I've no plan to modify this model, it's the first one I made and will sit on a shelf as a trophy! It gets taken down and played with now and again, usually when someone expresses an interest.

Geared finger engines would be the way to go if you were to drive something with them I suppose? ... Maybe a future project?

Ralph.

[Dividedhead]

If you are wondering about the music?Some mean spirited bastard blocked my vid' cause I used their tunes.Oh I am sorry, did I advertise your album? did I use your tracks to make myself look better.Was it for profit???

NO IT WASN'T YOU MEAN BASTARDS!!

It's all about money to some people, you haven't paid for it to be used on a broardcast..Yer but I purchased the album... one of many by Mark I may add and I was helping you sell more if someone liked it they had all the info to find and buy it!

[1Chiricahua]

I like your choices in music. There's an artist that plays a double necked guitar and "didgeridoo." Dominic Gaudious has several free downloads available (URL is his name with . com attached).

The mean bastards were probably lo-life 'representatives' with too much time on their hands. If it's any consolation, stunts like this have a way of back-firing eventually...

Great job, by the way.

See "Bogstandard" on mad modders (goes by blogwitch on You Tube).

[Dividedhead]

Hi, Glad you like the "job" :-)

Happy you like my music choice too.. I take some time figuring out what will fit, the original tunes were perfect for this vid' IMO.

I'll take a look at the digerydude!

Yep, Bogs is indeed Blogwitch.... That's how I came to find out about forums etc, after I saw his turbine and finger engines. Met him at a show last year and been to his home many times now for pointers and general chat..... Damn good bloke :-)

His works are top notch.

Ralph.

[djmeo]

how many time to do??  60 hours machining? :P

:) il like that

[Dividedhead]

Hi,

I never thought to calculate it before!

I just went back through all the photo's and adding half an hour to the begining of each (to allow for starting work before a photo was taken) day. I calculated the time at a rough approximate 40 hours to the finished model.

This is the most accurate I can do.

I'm happy that you like it.

Ralph.

[charliebronson79]

lol i pictured something else, that is one fancy toy, looks very stress relieving,top notch manual machining.

[Dividedhead]

I wonder what you had in mind?

A very fancy toy.... sits on a shelf at the mo'! occasionally goes for a spin :-)

The main stress relief was the making of it, I lose myself in the workshop, good music in the background and creating shapes out of metal, there's not much more could a man could want to do!

Thank you,

Ralph.

[SunsetRon]

Yes I am going to make the turning tool post you used to make concave and convex shapes; your videos gave me some good ideas. Thanks for passing on the knowledge!  RON

[Dividedhead]

I'm very happy that they have inspired you Ron, The main reason for sharing these creations is to inspire people to make similar and post video's of their creation.... Then they may inpsire others and me!

My inspiration for making engines came from Blogwitch (see my friends/subscription/favourite­s) Much there to inspire....

Ralph.

[SunsetRon]

Wow!!! you are a true master machinist! One day I'll be there; I hope.

[Dividedhead]

Thank you very much.

I can't agree with you though... I just make things the way I like them to look. This one all came from my head (as did the peck drill) The 'baldy' came from a plan by Elmer Verburg. I just altered it to make it more my style.

I have no real training, just basic safety and use from 16 years ago! Only started this as a hobby 2 years ago, there is still much to learn!!

Are you making anything yourself?

(see my favourites for some truly masterfull machining!!)

Ralph.

[Dividedhead]

The styling on this engine could not have been achived without the brilliant tool design by Steve Bedair... visit his site for the tool plans... Credit where it is due.

Bedair (dot) org

Thanks Steve.

[mrspooon]

thats brilliant

well done

[Dividedhead]

Nice of you to say so, thank you.

[KathandMill]

Nice finger action - well done!

[Dividedhead]

Why thank you :-)

Glad you liked it!