@Dectheboner Recommend it? That all depends upon what kind of music someone makes and what other keyboards they have. But in general, if you're looking for a nice, modern, analog polysynth, the Prophet 08 is awesome. Remember that it has no effects (I add delay and reverb using a Lexicon MX200.)
@900GTi , LOL... it's different than the virus. There are things that each can do that the other cannot. The Virus is much much more versatile than the Prophet 08.... The prophet has it's own character where as the Virus is pretty status quo in all categories.
If you're looking for one piece of kit, or your first synth, Virus will be the way to go for most producers/sound designers. If your a synth head... Prophet would probably be more your speed... completely different beasts
@gmcenroe Thanks - that is what I aim for in all of my demos. If you want to hear people talking about synths and twiddling dials, my videos are not for you. :)
@keybdwizrd haha I know what he means in general demo's but I disagree in this case.
Thankyou for this demo, it's the only demo i've found that shows off this awesome thing well. Thanks Keybordwizrd! It's really great to hear the pad sounds on the p08 recorded well (with a touch of salt).
@keybdwizrd Don't feed the troll, I appreciate your videos and your playing, love how you go through so many styles and sounds in your videos, helping me to really get an idea of how this synth sounds and I am about to buy either this or the Tetra 4 very soon. The biggest issue is of course price, it feels like I am buying a 4 voice prophet in the tetra but still fun to get something else also, how far will I get with 4 voices if I ask you?
@M3sslah I am not really famiiar with the Tetra. If it is four voice with two oscillators per voice, then it could do some really nice chords. If it is one per voice, well, then it could get rather thin rather quickly.
@keybdwizrd Just read on the net it's 2 oscillators per voice and also sub-oscillators to make it fatter. It even comes with the prophet presets and you can chain them to expand a prophet for instance or a mopho, they all build upon the same engine or how you say it.
@M3sslah Sounds good, then. Keep in mind that these instruments do not have built-in effects. If you don't have an external reverb/delay unit you'd need to get one, depending upon the kind of music you do.
@keybdwizrd Yeah I read that to, what about using reverb from Logic or maybe it would make a big difference to get a proper hardware reverb? Any recommendations for an affordable one that still sounds old and vintage, see you run Mx200 and that is pretty affordable but still a modern 24bit one? I am kinda allergic to todays modern "in the box" sound, it's very clean and without life in my taste and I fear that newer hardware suffer from the same. =). Thanks for all responses I appreciate it.
@M3sslah I use the MX200 so that I can hear the synths and their effects with zero latency outside the computer. Using Logic's reverbs would be fine in many cases, especially when adding effects after the fact. But it's just that playing a hardware synth through a computer and having effects added creates a latency situation when monitoring.
I love this synth. I've been demoing it a couple of times in the local music store and listened to maybe all the demos here on YouTube. I need one so bad!
This is fantastic, thanks keyboard wizard. You are very talented, I appreciate you making these videos. I thought long and hard, after comparing your videos, and bought the little phatty!!! It's a beast, and my first analogue. No doubt the prophet will follow soon after, as I haven't slept much this week. Thanks again.
@doctorbower1989 Have fun with the Phatty, it is a great sounding little synth. The Prophet 08 is a completely different instrument and complements it nicely, assuming you're after analog synth sounds.
@RoninCZ Thanks. The Prophet has a built-in stereo/pan feature for the oscillators which is probably what you're hearing. Regarding the tune, it's just something I improvised when making the video. Thanks again.
The Prophet 08 is a monster, brings me back to the days of Eddie Jobson bleeding out a CS-80. Do you plan on getting the Tetra anytime soon? Great playing and videos!
Thanks! I actually found all the noise was coming from the usb video capture device. I wanted to get firewire, but there's only 1 firewire port on mac used by my RME. I will be contacting mygica, the makers of iGrabber.
Btw I have imac 27", motifxs, monster cables (no mic input, only line)...don't know why I get noise. I ahve everything running through the same ground source (Furman Power Filter)...but I get a lot of weird electronic noise...Ground loop isolator didn't help. Please help buddy :)
@ncheriyan Honestly, these things can be complicated and outside the scope of a comment section here on YouTube. There are many forums on the internet with lots of helpful experts, such as the Keys, Synths and Samplers" forum at the Harmony Central website. There is also a synth forum at Gearslutz, and at the Musicplayer forums. Sorry, cannot post links in YouTube comments, but you should be able to Google these sites - they are very popular.
I really enjoy your video and playing skills. I wanted to make some videos with HQ sound like this for live video. I already have a USB video capture device and RME firewire interface.I couldn't find firewire video capture that's why I bought the igrabber (USB)...everything works fine, sound quality is pretty good when capturing audio (1/4" to RCA cable from RME outputs to igrabber). However, with fairly good sound quality comes a lot of weird noises...how do you get such crystal clear recording
@ncheriyan I simply run my synths into a Mackie mixer, and then run a stereo feed into a Canopus ADVC-100 converter box, where the audio gets merged with the video feed from my camcorder. I am not an expert on these things, this is just the stuff I have and what I have used for several years now.
The problem with your demos is that you're too good a keyboard player!
What I mean is that, like a good pianist who can make good music even on a bad piano, you can make any synth sound good because you are an amazing player and improviser.
I'm convinced that you would be able to do a good demo with a crappy Casio.
So, unfortunately, I cannot appreciate the intrinsic qualities, or lack of, of the synths you're playing...
@hoggy82003 Completely agree with you there...check out Jexus on YouTube, he's an amazing programmer and really pushes his synths to show their true nature.
Bought P 08. HATED IT. cam broke out of the box. no matter how many times your spin half the knobs left, they wanna go right. Returned it in less than 24...
I also want to say, I thought the Roland Juno-G had a super comfortable key action, but this synth takes the cake. There is something very natural about it and you really feel like you can put your emotion into it and have it respond to you. It plays like a dream!
@keybdwizrd My only beef is very few of the presets are usable out of the gate. But with patience and persistance, you can create legendary sounds on here that few synths can rival. I am currently saving up for a Lexicon processor similar to what you are running. I may go for a 400.
It's me again, and I've had my shiny new Prophet '08 for a month now!! I will admit, I'm quite new to synthesis. My other two keyboards are a Roland Juno-G and 300SX, so you could say that I am diving in head first with this synth.
The sound is absolutely amazing, like someone blew the lid off a late 70s/early 80s time capsule!
However I noticed that there are no settings or controls for reverb (that I can find). Is this why you use the MX-200 as a supplement??
Sorry but I am not familiar with the 300 or 400. Those weren't options when I bought the 200. The 200 does everything I need - simply two effects at the same time.
Wizard, I'm a new fan of yours and listen to your demos every day at work until I get a Prophet 08 of my own in a month =)
You sound like Dennis DeYoung on the opening onslaught!
The part that sold me on it was 1:09 - That is the most beautiful pad I have EVER HEARD. It's so cold, yet rich with a sea of textures. A good synth passage can stir up emotion. It takes me away on a space odyssey =)
1:58 - Again, fantastic composition of synth strings. Reminds me of Gary Numan!! BEST DEMO
@keybdwizrd first of all thanks for the wonderful videos, you do have a great talent! Can the prophet 08 produce those classic warm vintage sounds that say a juno 60 could? Do they even come close in comparing? many thanks
Well, I have never played a Juno 60, and these things are always ver subjective. But do I believe the P08 is a "warm" analog synth - yes. Hopefully, people can get a sense of what this instrument (and others) sound like through my videos. Whether or not they're what you're looking for, only you can decide. :)
I have had both in my rig. The Juno 60 is a single oscillator synth with a great LFO but what made it outstanding was the built in chorus/ensemble effect and the dirt simple arpeggiator. You did need outboard midi converter and it was not a velocity sensitive keyboard. It is really old, but really good technology. The P08 is a modern beast with a longer learning curve and no on board effects. True analog - sounds great especially if you put it through a good effects box. P08 is a modern classic.
I agree. The Juno 60 is one of a kind. The right bass patch with the chorus turned up is something I've never heard duplicated. Too bad the new Juno's are total garbage. The Prophet 08 and the Alesis Andromeda are probably my favorites of the last decade.
It had a sub osc that really fattened the sound. I like it best among the early analogs if you could not afford a jupiter. I also played a Chroma Polaris for years - only 6 voices but a really good analog sound and a smashing ring modulator and a sequencer that remembers all panel movements. P08 and Tetra are good modern versions of the Sequential sound. Andromeda seems almost perfect in vids but I have not played one. Sometimes you don't know what you have until its gone..(;-{)
fantastic sorry i this seems starnge but i am a hardstyle producer and im thinking about buying a hardware synth everyone is saying the virus ti can produce those leads i am looking for what about this beast any good for hard harsh leads?please reply thanks
thanks again! i know Arturia plugin are not the real thing but to me they are the best pluing for computer.. and maybe my question was not properly writhed.. obviosly my golad is to buy a prophet 8 but for now i can't... so i was wondering if the Arturia Prophet was sounding close to the real thing or as warm & phat.. i guest i need to take a chance and buy it lol
I only have the NI Prophet emulation - have never heard the Arturia one. And I have never played an original Prophet 5, so it would be difficult for me to tell if it is accurate or not. I think people need to buy these things for what they are. I find that the Arturia and NI softsynths are very musical and fine instruments to compose with. Whether or not they sound like the original hardware synth isn't really important to me.
First of all i thankyou for your brilliant demos. I play in a band which have influences such as OMD, Depechemode, New Order. Currently i use a korg R3 and roland juno d le in the live set. I want to invest in a better synth now things are taking off. My top 3 are: prophet 08, nord lead 2x and virus t1.
Which one will be better suited?
I want a powerful synth that cuts through the mix and capable of producing sounds similar to my influences.
keybdwizrd, have you seen or tried the Dave Smkth Tetra? I's supposed to be basically half a Prophet 08 but with the added bonus of the sub oscillators from the Mopho. Since I can't really justify the expense of an 08 the Tetra loks just the ticket. Any thoughts onm that?
I bought a Tetra a couple of weeks ago & it is exactly what I was looking for :-) Wel pleased with it. It sounds great. Same as the 08 but of course only 4 voices.
Awesome video, keyboardwizard. It seems to be the common opinion on the internet that the p-5 sounds fatter and thicker than the '08...yet I have owned 3 P-5's, and I don't think that any of them sounded as fat as my '08 (but unfortunately I don't have them side by side to compare). What's your take on this ??
I know some may want to shoot me, but I prefer it to the P-5 !! By the way, you should be a clinician for DSI...your playing brings out the "analogness" of the instrument, and invokes the feeling of the days when analog ruled supreme and prog rock synths reigned. About 2 years ago, I told Andrew from DSI that they needed to check out your demos (he never heard them before that)...apparently, they loved them, as they included reference to them on the DSI website. Congratulations !!
...oops...one more question...are your settings on the MX200 a preset (I just ordered one), or your own ?? In this video, is there any delay, or just reverb ??
Your recorded sound is awesome! Do you mind telling us what your audio signal path is from the Prophet 08 to the monitors and also to your recording devise?
Well it all depends upon whether or not you subscribe to the premise that "the only thing that sounds like a Moog is a Moog, and I want a Moog." The LP and the 08 do sound quite different to many keyboardists, but my guess is that most of the people who listen to music couldn't tell the difference.
I have a really old Prophet 5 Rev 2. I bought it from a guy for 35 dollars. I know how difficult it is to keep vintage synths running all the time and I'm sure it can get pretty expensive. Should I go ahead and have it repaired or just buy an 08?
That "tune" dates back to the late 70's. Go to my website and follow the link to "Vintage recordings from my days with Monarch..." The song is the first one listed, called Position of Authority.
The synth used in that recording was an ARP Quadra, which in retrospect doesn't sound nearly as good as a Prophet 08. But polyphonic synths were just beginning to be invented at that time.
For something cheaper, you would be looking a digital "virtual analog" synths. Options would include those made by Nord, as well as used models like the Korg MS2000 and Access Virus Indigo synths.
i watched many of your videos as iam thinking of getting some synth... Virus ti/ Little phatty / Prophet 08... i make electronic music, i had a virus before.... now i want again a Virus and i though it would go well with a Phatty for bassline and some retro sound... would you prefer to add the phatty or the Mopho for that purpose to a Virus ? then i though also the Prophet 08 for some retro 80 pads and brass sounds... are they complementary of could you dish one easly from your setup ? :)
If you are looking for a fat synth bass, then analog is best (Little Phatty or Mopho). The TI can make a wider variety of bass sounds because it is digital, but doesn't deliver the same big bottom as an analog, if that's what you're looking for.
The Prophet 08 is perfect for retro 80's pads and brass, but you'll need external effects (reverb and delay) to complete the sound.
For bass you like better the Phatty or mopho ? because the mopho is 1/4 or the phatty price so i wonder... i think if i buy the P08 i would really use the phatty or mopho for only fat bass, things like that...i suppose for lead and other medium sound the P08 can do as well as the phatty so i wonder if best is P08 + mopho or P08 + Phatty knowing that i will have the virus anyway also..
Software emulations are fun - I have plenty of them. Many of them sound great. But they're not the same as a physical synthesizer with keys and knobs. Whether or not they're worth the difference is up to you.
@GJmusique Stick with your computer. It won't mind being groped by a bloke who only looks at a woman as a piece of meat. Look beyond her tits and notice her wits or you might not get the sort of reaction you want! As to whoever gave him a positive, shame on you too!
@GJmusique :) well thats all good in theory but this isn't the past and midi controller are cheap and varied, not to mention with little research building your own custom midi controller isn't particularly difficult.
@GJmusique Slightly bad analogy and there are control surfaces out there. You could buy enough to control any synth and still have most of your change left over from the amount a prophet 08 costs.
Secondly vst synths are not sampled, their signal chain is pretty much the same way as any other synth except its coded rather than electronic.
That said having dedicated controls and no latency ... and not needing a pc on is defiantly alot better for sound design.
It is actually a riff from an original tune I wrote/played with my prog-rock band in LA in the late 70's, but we were never famous. The MP3 is on my website. I think there was a Styx song, however, that had a somewhat similar riff.
I was right with the era then :-) There were so many brilliant riffs around at that time, yours being no exception.
It was the actual timbre of the sound that I was referring to though. It may just be one of the Prophet presets, it just seems so evocative of that time in music. Thanks.
I started out with a factory preset on the Prophet called "Tom Sawyer," which employs two different sounds and a keyboard split to play the Rush tune. The Prophet has no onboard effects, so I put a wash of concert hall reverb and some delay on it, and also tweaked the patch a bit.
No, it's 99.9% original. However, the first two chords are comprised of the notes that make up the opening of Copeland's "Appalachian Spring," although he plays the notes individually instead of as a chord, as I recall. But that minute detail is the only thing I can recall being intentionally "borrowed" for this little improvization. :)
it was between this and the andromeda a6 for my main synth.....this sounds really good,but i got the a6 and i am not dissappointed!!its a real analog beast!! some say its not as warm as this one,you just have to tweak a bit more for the warmth
A last, some solid synth playing instead of dance geeks endlessly demo-ing Access Virus' etc on arpeggiators (which, in all truth, make *anything* sound impressive). Still not sold on the P 08 tho'. It probably has a wider palette of sounds than anapolys from the 70's/80's, but just doesn't have the grandeur of those which we played, and which we recall with such fondness.Great days! That US ensemble which played Bach on pro5's and Pro8? (and which I saw on a brit daytime tv show)
My dream set up would be 3 things: The Prophet 08, Emu SP 1200, and an Emulator 3.
This is a wonderful sounding demonstration, thanks for sharing.
smackyjack 3 weeks ago
would you recommend this synth brother :)
Dectheboner 4 weeks ago
@Dectheboner Recommend it? That all depends upon what kind of music someone makes and what other keyboards they have. But in general, if you're looking for a nice, modern, analog polysynth, the Prophet 08 is awesome. Remember that it has no effects (I add delay and reverb using a Lexicon MX200.)
keybdwizrd 3 weeks ago
Check out Morgan Page using this for a modern sound.
theinck 1 month ago
thankyou for doing this in stereo! sounds amazing through my monitors...
zerotoglass 2 months ago
@zerotoglass No problem!
keybdwizrd 2 months ago
It's better than the Virus
900GTi 3 months ago
@900GTi , LOL... it's different than the virus. There are things that each can do that the other cannot. The Virus is much much more versatile than the Prophet 08.... The prophet has it's own character where as the Virus is pretty status quo in all categories.
If you're looking for one piece of kit, or your first synth, Virus will be the way to go for most producers/sound designers. If your a synth head... Prophet would probably be more your speed... completely different beasts
TheGrowdaddy 1 month ago
@TheGrowdaddy The Prophet is better because is sounds warm and analog.
900GTi 1 month ago
How does this compare to the Virus?
thewakz 3 months ago
I want this.
BanjoDelivrance 3 months ago
Der erste Sound klingt total nach Marillion..allein das wäre ein Grund das gerät zu kaufen..
Rudess1975 5 months ago
Nice demo, I finally found someone who can actually play one of these instead of just twiddling the dials
gmcenroe 5 months ago 4
@gmcenroe Thanks - that is what I aim for in all of my demos. If you want to hear people talking about synths and twiddling dials, my videos are not for you. :)
keybdwizrd 5 months ago
radiohead has this synth.. they use it in "staircase" and it has great sound
cookumms 6 months ago
why are the demos for these amazing machines always performed by people with no musical sense
Hoobtastic 6 months ago
@Hoobtastic Are you referring to me?
keybdwizrd 6 months ago
@keybdwizrd haha I know what he means in general demo's but I disagree in this case.
Thankyou for this demo, it's the only demo i've found that shows off this awesome thing well. Thanks Keybordwizrd! It's really great to hear the pad sounds on the p08 recorded well (with a touch of salt).
madebythebird 6 months ago
@keybdwizrd Don't feed the troll, I appreciate your videos and your playing, love how you go through so many styles and sounds in your videos, helping me to really get an idea of how this synth sounds and I am about to buy either this or the Tetra 4 very soon. The biggest issue is of course price, it feels like I am buying a 4 voice prophet in the tetra but still fun to get something else also, how far will I get with 4 voices if I ask you?
M3sslah 4 months ago
@M3sslah I am not really famiiar with the Tetra. If it is four voice with two oscillators per voice, then it could do some really nice chords. If it is one per voice, well, then it could get rather thin rather quickly.
keybdwizrd 4 months ago
@keybdwizrd Well it should be a 4 voice prophet really, so how is that, is that 2 oscillators per voice?
M3sslah 4 months ago
@keybdwizrd Just read on the net it's 2 oscillators per voice and also sub-oscillators to make it fatter. It even comes with the prophet presets and you can chain them to expand a prophet for instance or a mopho, they all build upon the same engine or how you say it.
M3sslah 4 months ago
@M3sslah Sounds good, then. Keep in mind that these instruments do not have built-in effects. If you don't have an external reverb/delay unit you'd need to get one, depending upon the kind of music you do.
keybdwizrd 4 months ago
@keybdwizrd Yeah I read that to, what about using reverb from Logic or maybe it would make a big difference to get a proper hardware reverb? Any recommendations for an affordable one that still sounds old and vintage, see you run Mx200 and that is pretty affordable but still a modern 24bit one? I am kinda allergic to todays modern "in the box" sound, it's very clean and without life in my taste and I fear that newer hardware suffer from the same. =). Thanks for all responses I appreciate it.
M3sslah 4 months ago
@M3sslah I use the MX200 so that I can hear the synths and their effects with zero latency outside the computer. Using Logic's reverbs would be fine in many cases, especially when adding effects after the fact. But it's just that playing a hardware synth through a computer and having effects added creates a latency situation when monitoring.
keybdwizrd 4 months ago
I love this synth. I've been demoing it a couple of times in the local music store and listened to maybe all the demos here on YouTube. I need one so bad!
Fnordblaster 6 months ago
Any out board effects?
shackleton1 6 months ago
@shackleton1 Yes, Lexicon MX200.
keybdwizrd 6 months ago
This is fantastic, thanks keyboard wizard. You are very talented, I appreciate you making these videos. I thought long and hard, after comparing your videos, and bought the little phatty!!! It's a beast, and my first analogue. No doubt the prophet will follow soon after, as I haven't slept much this week. Thanks again.
doctorbower1989 7 months ago
@doctorbower1989 Have fun with the Phatty, it is a great sounding little synth. The Prophet 08 is a completely different instrument and complements it nicely, assuming you're after analog synth sounds.
keybdwizrd 7 months ago
James Blake uses one of these.
platinumdynamite 8 months ago
Wow! Wait... wow! What a great demo. Two questions:
First: The stereo effect is done by Prophet or by MX200?
Second: What is that totally epic song you play from 1:10 ?
Thanks,
regards,
Ronin.
RoninCZ 9 months ago
@RoninCZ Thanks. The Prophet has a built-in stereo/pan feature for the oscillators which is probably what you're hearing. Regarding the tune, it's just something I improvised when making the video. Thanks again.
keybdwizrd 9 months ago
Is that a polar I see above the prophet?
australiandj 9 months ago
@australiandj No doubt - I own one, and have made a ton of demos with it. They're here on YouTube.
keybdwizrd 9 months ago
1:12... yum
TheDaedalEVE 10 months ago
Freaking epic, great job!
striderkyo 11 months ago
The song you play at 1:10 is totally amazing!!! It's, for me, the true sound of this marvelous synth. Thank you ;)
gododinou 1 year ago
The Prophet 08 is a monster, brings me back to the days of Eddie Jobson bleeding out a CS-80. Do you plan on getting the Tetra anytime soon? Great playing and videos!
secondfiddle 1 year ago
@secondfiddle No Tetra for me. I have been scaling back my setup - I still have waaay to many sounds, more than I could ever possibly need.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
@keybdwizrd in these video's are you playing presets or have you crafted these sounds yourself?
Mccracken987 9 months ago
@Mccracken987 I started with presets but may have tweaked them up a little bit.
keybdwizrd 9 months ago
Does anybody knows if the prophet 08 has a sound library from where to choose sounds???
malcolmlagger 1 year ago
God bless Rick WAKEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
geomiezzi 1 year ago
Thanks! I actually found all the noise was coming from the usb video capture device. I wanted to get firewire, but there's only 1 firewire port on mac used by my RME. I will be contacting mygica, the makers of iGrabber.
ncheriyan 1 year ago
Btw I have imac 27", motifxs, monster cables (no mic input, only line)...don't know why I get noise. I ahve everything running through the same ground source (Furman Power Filter)...but I get a lot of weird electronic noise...Ground loop isolator didn't help. Please help buddy :)
ncheriyan 1 year ago
@ncheriyan Honestly, these things can be complicated and outside the scope of a comment section here on YouTube. There are many forums on the internet with lots of helpful experts, such as the Keys, Synths and Samplers" forum at the Harmony Central website. There is also a synth forum at Gearslutz, and at the Musicplayer forums. Sorry, cannot post links in YouTube comments, but you should be able to Google these sites - they are very popular.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
@ncheriyan
use canopus advc series. the best for amateur/semi-pro and pro productions.
lavakava 1 year ago
@lavakava
Thanks! I just bought an ADVC converter...That took care of my noise problems. There seems to be noise filters built in.
ncheriyan 1 year ago
@ncheriyan All's well that ends well...
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
I really enjoy your video and playing skills. I wanted to make some videos with HQ sound like this for live video. I already have a USB video capture device and RME firewire interface.I couldn't find firewire video capture that's why I bought the igrabber (USB)...everything works fine, sound quality is pretty good when capturing audio (1/4" to RCA cable from RME outputs to igrabber). However, with fairly good sound quality comes a lot of weird noises...how do you get such crystal clear recording
ncheriyan 1 year ago
@ncheriyan I simply run my synths into a Mackie mixer, and then run a stereo feed into a Canopus ADVC-100 converter box, where the audio gets merged with the video feed from my camcorder. I am not an expert on these things, this is just the stuff I have and what I have used for several years now.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
this looks like the ultimate modern synthesizer. I hope to own one some day
dice283 1 year ago
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mpresev 1 year ago
I've been drooling over that video for almost 2 yearsbut I finally got my P08 last week! (I blame you, kbdwiz for that, haha!)
Just wondering though: what setting did you use for the intro tune?
styx49 1 year ago
2:53 is how an arp should be used! great sounding synth, would love to be able to afford one of these :(
LogicBoards 1 year ago
Super les Sons du Synthétiseur,Encore Félitation tu joue trés bien,le son est génial,à bientot de la part de Didier de Belgique.
MrSolitaire2000 1 year ago
@MrSolitaire2000 Merci beaucoup, je suis heureux que vous aimez la vidéo.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
always good to listen to your demos :)
djomercohen 1 year ago
Im A huge fan of the Prophet 08. listen! DCO Power
LesPaul25189 1 year ago
The problem with your demos is that you're too good a keyboard player!
What I mean is that, like a good pianist who can make good music even on a bad piano, you can make any synth sound good because you are an amazing player and improviser.
I'm convinced that you would be able to do a good demo with a crappy Casio.
So, unfortunately, I cannot appreciate the intrinsic qualities, or lack of, of the synths you're playing...
hoggy82003 1 year ago
@hoggy82003 Completely agree with you there...check out Jexus on YouTube, he's an amazing programmer and really pushes his synths to show their true nature.
audibleobsession 1 year ago
Simply amazing. Can I get notes that You played from 1:09? So great.
Pierdolejutube 1 year ago
@Pierdolejutube Thanks, but sorry, all this stuff is spontaneously improvised. You'd have to learn it by ear...
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
Bought P 08. HATED IT. cam broke out of the box. no matter how many times your spin half the knobs left, they wanna go right. Returned it in less than 24...
bootyproducer 1 year ago
Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts of the Moog Voyager?
I find the Prophet 08 so much more interesting.
thrcman 1 year ago
KEYBOARDWIZARD >>> everthing u touch is going to gold. Your amazing skills on the Keys i really much respect !
You just must go for the Company to present the new Synthesizers.
B I G U P
RockinIT
ZenAnalyse 1 year ago 10
@ZenAnalyse Thank you!
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
I envy you. It reminds me of a Prophet 600.
isaacrife08 1 year ago
hello, can you tell me how do you save a user bank in your prophet.
it's only with a computer or you can use a usb key to save a file (as a motif yamaha for example).??
thanks a lot.
graal7 1 year ago
@graal7 There is no USB port on the P08.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
Where should I start at the very very beginning with Playing Synth please, what should i get as a first instrument?
YungShady01 1 year ago
@YungShady01 I started with a piano.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
@keybdwizrd And now that you're there you would start with classic piano courses?
YungShady01 1 year ago
@YungShady01 It is the only way I know, but other people have found their own way.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
I also want to say, I thought the Roland Juno-G had a super comfortable key action, but this synth takes the cake. There is something very natural about it and you really feel like you can put your emotion into it and have it respond to you. It plays like a dream!
DuaLeaD 1 year ago
Is the sound starting at 1:58 a preset or something you tweaked yourself? It sounds so awesome!
dunderdendur 1 year ago
These sounds are all tweaked presets. I made this video shortly after I got the synth, and was just twiddling around with the presets.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
@keybdwizrd My only beef is very few of the presets are usable out of the gate. But with patience and persistance, you can create legendary sounds on here that few synths can rival. I am currently saving up for a Lexicon processor similar to what you are running. I may go for a 400.
DuaLeaD 1 year ago
@dunderdendur Reminded me a little bit of the start of Jean Michel Jarre's Rendezvous II
Lex12021 1 year ago
this or moog voyager?
fridtjofbda 1 year ago
Dear Keyboard Wizard:
It's me again, and I've had my shiny new Prophet '08 for a month now!! I will admit, I'm quite new to synthesis. My other two keyboards are a Roland Juno-G and 300SX, so you could say that I am diving in head first with this synth.
The sound is absolutely amazing, like someone blew the lid off a late 70s/early 80s time capsule!
However I noticed that there are no settings or controls for reverb (that I can find). Is this why you use the MX-200 as a supplement??
DuaLeaD 1 year ago
Yes, the Prophet has no effects whatsoever. An external device is required.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
I'm seriously looking at an MX-series unit... They've got a 300 and 400 now as well...What would you recommend? Is there much of a difference?
DuaLeaD 1 year ago
Sorry but I am not familiar with the 300 or 400. Those weren't options when I bought the 200. The 200 does everything I need - simply two effects at the same time.
keybdwizrd 1 year ago
Sounds really awesome!!!
1988stijno 2 years ago
Wizard, I'm a new fan of yours and listen to your demos every day at work until I get a Prophet 08 of my own in a month =)
You sound like Dennis DeYoung on the opening onslaught!
The part that sold me on it was 1:09 - That is the most beautiful pad I have EVER HEARD. It's so cold, yet rich with a sea of textures. A good synth passage can stir up emotion. It takes me away on a space odyssey =)
1:58 - Again, fantastic composition of synth strings. Reminds me of Gary Numan!! BEST DEMO
DuaLeaD 2 years ago 9
Thank you very much for the kind words!
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
@keybdwizrd first of all thanks for the wonderful videos, you do have a great talent! Can the prophet 08 produce those classic warm vintage sounds that say a juno 60 could? Do they even come close in comparing? many thanks
victims00 2 years ago
Well, I have never played a Juno 60, and these things are always ver subjective. But do I believe the P08 is a "warm" analog synth - yes. Hopefully, people can get a sense of what this instrument (and others) sound like through my videos. Whether or not they're what you're looking for, only you can decide. :)
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
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newpro5657 2 years ago
I have had both in my rig. The Juno 60 is a single oscillator synth with a great LFO but what made it outstanding was the built in chorus/ensemble effect and the dirt simple arpeggiator. You did need outboard midi converter and it was not a velocity sensitive keyboard. It is really old, but really good technology. The P08 is a modern beast with a longer learning curve and no on board effects. True analog - sounds great especially if you put it through a good effects box. P08 is a modern classic.
newpro5657 2 years ago
Thanks for the advice newpro5657. I will certainly look at incorporating one of them in my current set. I think they sound fantastic. :)
victims00 2 years ago
I agree. The Juno 60 is one of a kind. The right bass patch with the chorus turned up is something I've never heard duplicated. Too bad the new Juno's are total garbage. The Prophet 08 and the Alesis Andromeda are probably my favorites of the last decade.
togglescratch 1 year ago
@togglescratch
It had a sub osc that really fattened the sound. I like it best among the early analogs if you could not afford a jupiter. I also played a Chroma Polaris for years - only 6 voices but a really good analog sound and a smashing ring modulator and a sequencer that remembers all panel movements. P08 and Tetra are good modern versions of the Sequential sound. Andromeda seems almost perfect in vids but I have not played one. Sometimes you don't know what you have until its gone..(;-{)
newpro5657 1 year ago
kind of arvo part sound at 1.59 :D
lundijuno106 2 years ago
Пробивной звук!
korolchukpp 2 years ago
Да, Вы любите это?
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Да просто я никогда не слышал этот синтезатор. Только был наслышан об его красоте звука.
korolchukpp 2 years ago
Это - хороший синтезатор. Я надеюсь, что Вы наслаждаетесь другими видео!
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
1:58 magnificent
KaslarProductions 2 years ago
Thank you!
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
fantastic sorry i this seems starnge but i am a hardstyle producer and im thinking about buying a hardware synth everyone is saying the virus ti can produce those leads i am looking for what about this beast any good for hard harsh leads?please reply thanks
gtadead 2 years ago
What about the big brother to this one `08.DSI Poly Evolver Keyboard
2009European 2 years ago
I have never played one.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
thanks again! i know Arturia plugin are not the real thing but to me they are the best pluing for computer.. and maybe my question was not properly writhed.. obviosly my golad is to buy a prophet 8 but for now i can't... so i was wondering if the Arturia Prophet was sounding close to the real thing or as warm & phat.. i guest i need to take a chance and buy it lol
mproductionsmusik 2 years ago
have you ever tried Arturia Prophet Plugin or Ear demo of it? if yes what do you think about it.. sound very close like a real one?
mproductionsmusik 2 years ago
I only have the NI Prophet emulation - have never heard the Arturia one. And I have never played an original Prophet 5, so it would be difficult for me to tell if it is accurate or not. I think people need to buy these things for what they are. I find that the Arturia and NI softsynths are very musical and fine instruments to compose with. Whether or not they sound like the original hardware synth isn't really important to me.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Hello Keybdwizrd,
First of all i thankyou for your brilliant demos. I play in a band which have influences such as OMD, Depechemode, New Order. Currently i use a korg R3 and roland juno d le in the live set. I want to invest in a better synth now things are taking off. My top 3 are: prophet 08, nord lead 2x and virus t1.
Which one will be better suited?
I want a powerful synth that cuts through the mix and capable of producing sounds similar to my influences.
Thanks
victims00 2 years ago
keybdwizrd, have you seen or tried the Dave Smkth Tetra? I's supposed to be basically half a Prophet 08 but with the added bonus of the sub oscillators from the Mopho. Since I can't really justify the expense of an 08 the Tetra loks just the ticket. Any thoughts onm that?
Dogboy73 2 years ago
I haven't played a Tetra yet, but given the description it could be what you're looking for.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
I bought a Tetra a couple of weeks ago & it is exactly what I was looking for :-) Wel pleased with it. It sounds great. Same as the 08 but of course only 4 voices.
Dogboy73 2 years ago
I think there's both delay and reverb. I usually start out with a preset but then fiddle with the settings. Very easy to do.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Awesome video, keyboardwizard. It seems to be the common opinion on the internet that the p-5 sounds fatter and thicker than the '08...yet I have owned 3 P-5's, and I don't think that any of them sounded as fat as my '08 (but unfortunately I don't have them side by side to compare). What's your take on this ??
abwdoc 2 years ago
I've never actually played a Prophet 5, but I honestly have little to no interest in vintage synthesizers. I think the 08 sounds great.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
I know some may want to shoot me, but I prefer it to the P-5 !! By the way, you should be a clinician for DSI...your playing brings out the "analogness" of the instrument, and invokes the feeling of the days when analog ruled supreme and prog rock synths reigned. About 2 years ago, I told Andrew from DSI that they needed to check out your demos (he never heard them before that)...apparently, they loved them, as they included reference to them on the DSI website. Congratulations !!
abwdoc 2 years ago
...oops...one more question...are your settings on the MX200 a preset (I just ordered one), or your own ?? In this video, is there any delay, or just reverb ??
abwdoc 2 years ago
Sounds awesome and terrific demo.
hafstrat 2 years ago 3
Your recorded sound is awesome! Do you mind telling us what your audio signal path is from the Prophet 08 to the monitors and also to your recording devise?
kidgloves2 2 years ago
would it be redundant to buy a Moog 'Phatty' if I already own the Prophet 08? Is there really a significant difference?
johnthebaptist23 2 years ago
Well it all depends upon whether or not you subscribe to the premise that "the only thing that sounds like a Moog is a Moog, and I want a Moog." The LP and the 08 do sound quite different to many keyboardists, but my guess is that most of the people who listen to music couldn't tell the difference.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Hey thanks for your input....I really enjoy your videos...you rock!!
johnthebaptist23 2 years ago
Does the new Prophet do polyphonic portamento like the Juno 106?
The Juno is getting a bit old (read: going bad) and I might put it up on the bay.
pacosaidso 2 years ago
Yes it does.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
You are amazing!
jagstinger 2 years ago
every one knows you don't know a synth till you've gotten down to the waveforms
jumpmaster98 2 years ago
I have a really old Prophet 5 Rev 2. I bought it from a guy for 35 dollars. I know how difficult it is to keep vintage synths running all the time and I'm sure it can get pretty expensive. Should I go ahead and have it repaired or just buy an 08?
naturalbluesky 2 years ago
Yo man, where can get the album for the 1st 1:08 of this vid?
nudist0885 2 years ago
That "tune" dates back to the late 70's. Go to my website and follow the link to "Vintage recordings from my days with Monarch..." The song is the first one listed, called Position of Authority.
The synth used in that recording was an ARP Quadra, which in retrospect doesn't sound nearly as good as a Prophet 08. But polyphonic synths were just beginning to be invented at that time.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
this vid made me buy this synth. Best one I ever had, including Moog Prodigy, a host of Juno's, Virus, Waldorf, Novation, Korg ....
BabyEvil1 2 years ago
My Juno 60 sounds better ! :P
TR0jAX 2 years ago
It sounds amazing!
Osk4lliator 2 years ago 6
I agree!
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
I love this synth! Pity that is not my best moment! ;-)
Solaris1992 2 years ago
hi there great demo
which cheaper keyboard can "almost" be alternative to prophet 08?
zzzxtreme 2 years ago
For something cheaper, you would be looking a digital "virtual analog" synths. Options would include those made by Nord, as well as used models like the Korg MS2000 and Access Virus Indigo synths.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Well performed.
103959770979 2 years ago
i watched many of your videos as iam thinking of getting some synth... Virus ti/ Little phatty / Prophet 08... i make electronic music, i had a virus before.... now i want again a Virus and i though it would go well with a Phatty for bassline and some retro sound... would you prefer to add the phatty or the Mopho for that purpose to a Virus ? then i though also the Prophet 08 for some retro 80 pads and brass sounds... are they complementary of could you dish one easly from your setup ? :)
chromatiku 2 years ago
If you are looking for a fat synth bass, then analog is best (Little Phatty or Mopho). The TI can make a wider variety of bass sounds because it is digital, but doesn't deliver the same big bottom as an analog, if that's what you're looking for.
The Prophet 08 is perfect for retro 80's pads and brass, but you'll need external effects (reverb and delay) to complete the sound.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
thanks :) i was not sure you would respond :)
So they are complementary... thats cool.
For bass you like better the Phatty or mopho ? because the mopho is 1/4 or the phatty price so i wonder... i think if i buy the P08 i would really use the phatty or mopho for only fat bass, things like that...i suppose for lead and other medium sound the P08 can do as well as the phatty so i wonder if best is P08 + mopho or P08 + Phatty knowing that i will have the virus anyway also..
thanks you really :)
chromatiku 2 years ago
By the way did you had occasion of comparing the P08 to some arturia prophet or others emulation ? is it worth the difference ?
chromatiku 2 years ago
Software emulations are fun - I have plenty of them. Many of them sound great. But they're not the same as a physical synthesizer with keys and knobs. Whether or not they're worth the difference is up to you.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
both are great. but there's a major difference.
i mean. take a nice pair of boobs. do you want to touch them and feel the girl react?
or, do you want to click them with your mouse on a screen and hear a sampled voice react? =)))
GJmusique 2 years ago 19
depends if they're analog boobs or digital boobs
geojones69 2 years ago 2
@GJmusique Stick with your computer. It won't mind being groped by a bloke who only looks at a woman as a piece of meat. Look beyond her tits and notice her wits or you might not get the sort of reaction you want! As to whoever gave him a positive, shame on you too!
Laura041974 1 year ago
@Laura041974 thumbs up
id4rk2 1 year ago
@GJmusique :) well thats all good in theory but this isn't the past and midi controller are cheap and varied, not to mention with little research building your own custom midi controller isn't particularly difficult.
sacredgeometry 1 year ago
@GJmusique Slightly bad analogy and there are control surfaces out there. You could buy enough to control any synth and still have most of your change left over from the amount a prophet 08 costs.
Secondly vst synths are not sampled, their signal chain is pretty much the same way as any other synth except its coded rather than electronic.
That said having dedicated controls and no latency ... and not needing a pc on is defiantly alot better for sound design.
sacredgeometry 1 year ago
what is your opinion on the Andromeda compared to the mopho/prophet/phatty (in an analog synths context) ?
MHU999 2 years ago
Sorry, I have never played an Andromeda. But they have their fans. Personally, I think they look rather odd.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
I love that first sound...Somewhere from my past...Was it YES, Marillion? I can't remember.
I'd love to nail it on my analogue keys!!
AnalogueUK 2 years ago
It is actually a riff from an original tune I wrote/played with my prog-rock band in LA in the late 70's, but we were never famous. The MP3 is on my website. I think there was a Styx song, however, that had a somewhat similar riff.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
I was right with the era then :-) There were so many brilliant riffs around at that time, yours being no exception.
It was the actual timbre of the sound that I was referring to though. It may just be one of the Prophet presets, it just seems so evocative of that time in music. Thanks.
AnalogueUK 2 years ago
I started out with a factory preset on the Prophet called "Tom Sawyer," which employs two different sounds and a keyboard split to play the Rush tune. The Prophet has no onboard effects, so I put a wash of concert hall reverb and some delay on it, and also tweaked the patch a bit.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
sound!!!
dennyseemo 2 years ago
do you like this or the poly evolver
Ayo456 2 years ago
Never played a Poly Evolver.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
what would you rather, this synth or a Access Virus C??
dbglowdao 2 years ago
That's like asking "would you rather have a four-door sedan or a pick-up truck?
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Is that piece on the string patch at around 2:00 from something? It sounds incredibly familiar but I can't remember offhand what it reminds me of.
ph00tbag 2 years ago
No, it's 99.9% original. However, the first two chords are comprised of the notes that make up the opening of Copeland's "Appalachian Spring," although he plays the notes individually instead of as a chord, as I recall. But that minute detail is the only thing I can recall being intentionally "borrowed" for this little improvization. :)
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Mr. Keyboard Wizard, I have never come across someone so aptly named... I love listening to your demos!
greenmarley916 2 years ago
Thank you! Glad you've enjoyed them.
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
Extremely lush...pure and simple.
neutronemission 2 years ago
Lovely playing and demo, thanks for posting...
GNeuman 2 years ago
Thank you!
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
it reminds me on my childhood ^^
techpsy 2 years ago
excellent playing technique here.
I spent some time with a prophet 08, and I just wasn't impressed..doesn't sound warm and rich enough, compared to my prophet 5.
I have an alesis ION, and it sounds more analog than the p8.
Reeno
blewvelvet 2 years ago
Are you saying that a VA sounds more analog than a real analog? It must really be a good emulation..
hdebbache2000 2 years ago
Beauty is in the ear of the beholder. :)
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
So you use analog just as a term for "it sounds nice and warm"?
Nice, I have 3 analog synths then! :)
Tx66 2 years ago
it was between this and the andromeda a6 for my main synth.....this sounds really good,but i got the a6 and i am not dissappointed!!its a real analog beast!! some say its not as warm as this one,you just have to tweak a bit more for the warmth
geojones69 2 years ago
really appreciate you doing all these videos! good on ya!
andrew0786 2 years ago
A last, some solid synth playing instead of dance geeks endlessly demo-ing Access Virus' etc on arpeggiators (which, in all truth, make *anything* sound impressive). Still not sold on the P 08 tho'. It probably has a wider palette of sounds than anapolys from the 70's/80's, but just doesn't have the grandeur of those which we played, and which we recall with such fondness.Great days! That US ensemble which played Bach on pro5's and Pro8? (and which I saw on a brit daytime tv show)
pierstheoneandonly 2 years ago
i agree with the arp part.
Check out Jexus, his videos kick ass too
Biopharmer 2 years ago
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PhotoAnimationGuy 2 years ago
I have much respect for both youre playing and choice of synths.;)
thrcman 2 years ago 2
Thank you very much!
keybdwizrd 2 years ago
This synthesizer is awesome!!!