yeah! what a waste, studies like philosophy ethics anthropology art. who needs all that, what society of humans needs humanities, when we just want real business and rugby. that is what the planet needs!
ah no wrong buffalo breath. what the planet needs is people who can think critically. Unfortunately the things you just mentioned have become the fodder of propagandists rather than true independent thinkers. It is better to do away with pseudo intellectualism and just have maths and sciences than humanities as it now stands.
definitely, philosophy has never question the society that we live in, these annoying hippies just want to change everything!
a masters of business and administration funded by the OZ, UK and US defence forces and various arms manufacturers in "defence procurement" (arms dealing) that would really bring some reality and perspective and create some real FREE THINKERS!
i was thinking more along the lines of engineering and hard sciences, not more MBAs. We have enough of them already too. This conversation is ended thank you.
i was thinking more along the lines of engineering and hard sciences, not more MBAs. We have enough of them already too. This conversation is ended thank you.
I have said this to the Studnet Guild before and I will say it again, I do not like the Guild because it is full of wankers that protest about everything under the sun.
Well what are they doing in the video? Whinging about something at QUT sounds like Protesting to me and the chanting when they got arrested. Good on ya Police.
The Guild weren't at this protest, as far as I know. I wouldn't recognise them if I saw them, but I know that as a group they were opposed to the protest, so it's not likely they'd turn up. There was one member inside voting to keep the Humanities school as it is. The other member that was supposed to be at the meeting didn't make it.
Sword sharpener....clearly you live in a small and ignorant world. Good luck to you, hopefully one day the police are used as hired goons against something you believe in. Maybe then your ignorance will fade.
I personally saw protestors push away other students who were merely attempting to enter the building to go about their business. Unfortunately in the eyes of some people their rights are the only ones that matter and if they have to stomp all over another persons rights, well this is acceptable to achieve their goals.
Mr. wambit you are an ediot. At least they have guts to stay there. I have experienced bullying by QUT staff at a higher rank. i suffered for months and months. nothing got done. thats how people gets frustrated. you need to get a life or maybe you are one of those bullies.
If only it was true that those "protesting" were peaceful and acting lawfully. The language used by some of these so called peaceful protestors was colourful in the least and offensive at it's extremes. Unfortunately such behaviour highlights the root cause of some of society's problems, an inability to effectively express one's self without resorting to swearing and violence.
That's true, the "verbal violence" from some protestors was shocking. I can understand why the protestors would act that way, given the actions of some police officers in situations like this, but I don't agree with it.
It's a disgusting state of affairs when the university's decisions are so unpopular that they need to bring police on campus to smash up demonstrations. Students were merely fighting for their right for an education and save their Humanities and Human Services faculty from the university's market agenda.
quitisabilly...That last sentence is remarkable! (Sarcasm in case you did not pick it up) . . . I am assuming that you are a university student (assumptions are dangerous). Please remain as educated and informed as you are (more sarcasm). How do you justify paying for you education?
WTF? Angry students with bullhorns are a common sight. While they may be disruptive, we lose sight of the bigger picture at our peril - these are involved, concerned, educated Australians. Such police idiocy will only galvanise them against authority at a time when they should be learning how to worth *with* society, not against it.
Australian history is rich with lessons on the value effective dissent. What lesson were these students taught by having smash them in the face? For shame.
Shame Beattie shame. QLD would have to be one of the few places in thjis country where a peacful student protest on campus is not tollerated. Welcome to Queensland the police state!!!
That was disgusting on behalf of the police. If everybody left as soon as they were given an order to stop protesting, we would have no protests and the government and the police could do as they please.
That seems a strange argument. The majority of taxpayers would not use the campus. There are certainly other people to take into account, but aren't universities made primarily for students?
The majority of us (taxpayers) don't use a lot of things bought with our taxes, FA18s, Blackhawks, etc etc. The student's don't own the campus that is my point, they don't have "diplomatic immunity" there.
sure, but still, what are the unis for? They *do* a number of things - provide building contractors with work, research funders with applications to look at, the ad industry with branding exercises, tv with ads, but what are they *for*? If the reason for the rest of the things is to provide education, rather than providing education being a reason to transfer public funds into private hands, then students would still be the point. They're the members of the public actually using the place.
Get a life loser, i was watching the whole thing, the girl with the megaphone was previously involved in a scuffle with police and given a direction to leave the area for the day and not come back, she contrevened that direction and came back to continue to protest. Break the law suffer the consequences. civil disobedience is still disobedience!
and as for peaceful , not only did they assualt staff but also the police on several occassions whilst the they were trying to protect staff from you morons.
yes, of course. meanwhile when police break the law it's perfectly fine? i'm sorry but it's doubtful that tearing at someone's hair, or punching someone in the gut, constitutes 'reasonable force'. especially given that obviously they did not intend to arrest all of the people at the rally. the police's actions were clearly aggressive.
I got pushed down the stairs by a security guard without having touched anyone, gone anywhere I wasn't allowed or even saying anything offensive. No one assualted police, though they may have tried to free themselves from a choke-hold or get the police to let go of their hair. And the idea that the staff needed protection from us is absurd. Once again... we're not trying to hurt people, we're trying to stand up for what we believe in.
Thought I ought to comment before anyone notices me saying something about a gun that a policeman had. I saw him get out of a car and walk towards us with his hand on his gun. I was so disgusted that the thought of shooting someone had even crossed this guy's mind. Who do the police think we are? Some sort of violent, terrorist revolutionaries? We're just trying to stand up for what we believe in through peaceful resistance.
I'm sure the officer had no intention of shooting anyone hippie and your comment was threatening. Strange that they would close the humanities department must be sick of training the unemloyable.
My comment was sarcastic. That's why I commented, 'cause it was stupid and sounds bad. And whether education is purely for the sake of perpetuating our dehumanising economic system or whether it's to create an educated, thoughtfull and reasonable populace is the debate that's being shut down by these sorts of decisions.
I sure the officer was checking his firearm was locked in place and secure, there would be nothing worse if a protester managed to grab a firearm in the middle of the scuffle.
No one would want to grab his firearm, that's the point. We're not violence. We stood in a circle and the police started pulling people's hair and arm-barring them in the throat. I doubt any police even have any scratches. The fact that they come to a peacefull protest with some idea that we're gonna grab a gun and shoot them suggests a move towards the kind of paranoid, shoot-first question later policing you see in the US. It worries me.
AntaresInScorpius....you've nothing to contribute with your ridiculous claims....
moulmein 2 years ago
humanities, good riddance-- a waste of time and resources.
AntaresInScorpius 4 years ago
yeah! what a waste, studies like philosophy ethics anthropology art. who needs all that, what society of humans needs humanities, when we just want real business and rugby. that is what the planet needs!
revolutionarybuffalo 4 years ago
ah no wrong buffalo breath. what the planet needs is people who can think critically. Unfortunately the things you just mentioned have become the fodder of propagandists rather than true independent thinkers. It is better to do away with pseudo intellectualism and just have maths and sciences than humanities as it now stands.
AntaresInScorpius 4 years ago
definitely, philosophy has never question the society that we live in, these annoying hippies just want to change everything!
a masters of business and administration funded by the OZ, UK and US defence forces and various arms manufacturers in "defence procurement" (arms dealing) that would really bring some reality and perspective and create some real FREE THINKERS!
revolutionarybuffalo 4 years ago
i was thinking more along the lines of engineering and hard sciences, not more MBAs. We have enough of them already too. This conversation is ended thank you.
AntaresInScorpius 4 years ago
i was thinking more along the lines of engineering and hard sciences, not more MBAs. We have enough of them already too. This conversation is ended thank you.
AntaresInScorpius 4 years ago
I have said this to the Studnet Guild before and I will say it again, I do not like the Guild because it is full of wankers that protest about everything under the sun.
swordsharperner 4 years ago 2
Really? What have they protested? They certainly weren't there for this for this one.
Draic85 4 years ago
Well what are they doing in the video? Whinging about something at QUT sounds like Protesting to me and the chanting when they got arrested. Good on ya Police.
swordsharperner 4 years ago
The Guild weren't at this protest, as far as I know. I wouldn't recognise them if I saw them, but I know that as a group they were opposed to the protest, so it's not likely they'd turn up. There was one member inside voting to keep the Humanities school as it is. The other member that was supposed to be at the meeting didn't make it.
Draic85 4 years ago
Sword sharpener....clearly you live in a small and ignorant world. Good luck to you, hopefully one day the police are used as hired goons against something you believe in. Maybe then your ignorance will fade.
danicabs 4 years ago
Stupid hippies!
bEndoes 4 years ago
I personally saw protestors push away other students who were merely attempting to enter the building to go about their business. Unfortunately in the eyes of some people their rights are the only ones that matter and if they have to stomp all over another persons rights, well this is acceptable to achieve their goals.
wamgit 4 years ago
Mr. wambit you are an ediot. At least they have guts to stay there. I have experienced bullying by QUT staff at a higher rank. i suffered for months and months. nothing got done. thats how people gets frustrated. you need to get a life or maybe you are one of those bullies.
qutisabully 4 years ago
If only it was true that those "protesting" were peaceful and acting lawfully. The language used by some of these so called peaceful protestors was colourful in the least and offensive at it's extremes. Unfortunately such behaviour highlights the root cause of some of society's problems, an inability to effectively express one's self without resorting to swearing and violence.
wamgit 4 years ago
That's true, the "verbal violence" from some protestors was shocking. I can understand why the protestors would act that way, given the actions of some police officers in situations like this, but I don't agree with it.
Draic85 4 years ago
It's a disgusting state of affairs when the university's decisions are so unpopular that they need to bring police on campus to smash up demonstrations. Students were merely fighting for their right for an education and save their Humanities and Human Services faculty from the university's market agenda.
deviantsod 4 years ago
where the fsck were the police when I was being robbed and bashed RIGHT NEXT TO A POLICE STATION at 6pm in the evening??
xavster 4 years ago
xavster you are right. Thats the best they can do because thats why they are in police coz they didnt chose to go to uni ... ha ha ha
qutisabully 4 years ago
quitisabilly...That last sentence is remarkable! (Sarcasm in case you did not pick it up) . . . I am assuming that you are a university student (assumptions are dangerous). Please remain as educated and informed as you are (more sarcasm). How do you justify paying for you education?
Arrest74 4 years ago
WTF? Angry students with bullhorns are a common sight. While they may be disruptive, we lose sight of the bigger picture at our peril - these are involved, concerned, educated Australians. Such police idiocy will only galvanise them against authority at a time when they should be learning how to worth *with* society, not against it.
Australian history is rich with lessons on the value effective dissent. What lesson were these students taught by having smash them in the face? For shame.
NyquistTheorem 4 years ago
Shame Beattie shame. QLD would have to be one of the few places in thjis country where a peacful student protest on campus is not tollerated. Welcome to Queensland the police state!!!
djflaps 4 years ago
That was disgusting on behalf of the police. If everybody left as soon as they were given an order to stop protesting, we would have no protests and the government and the police could do as they please.
revolutionarybuffalo 4 years ago
Yeah the police could do real police work instead of having to deal with student protests.
oxford152 4 years ago
Exactly, they should be out doing real police work, not arresting peacefull students and ordering them off their own campus.
robbieob 4 years ago
it's not their campus, it's the taxpayers campus.
oxford152 4 years ago
That seems a strange argument. The majority of taxpayers would not use the campus. There are certainly other people to take into account, but aren't universities made primarily for students?
Draic85 4 years ago
The majority of us (taxpayers) don't use a lot of things bought with our taxes, FA18s, Blackhawks, etc etc. The student's don't own the campus that is my point, they don't have "diplomatic immunity" there.
oxford152 4 years ago
sure, but still, what are the unis for? They *do* a number of things - provide building contractors with work, research funders with applications to look at, the ad industry with branding exercises, tv with ads, but what are they *for*? If the reason for the rest of the things is to provide education, rather than providing education being a reason to transfer public funds into private hands, then students would still be the point. They're the members of the public actually using the place.
pthomas66 4 years ago
Get a life loser, i was watching the whole thing, the girl with the megaphone was previously involved in a scuffle with police and given a direction to leave the area for the day and not come back, she contrevened that direction and came back to continue to protest. Break the law suffer the consequences. civil disobedience is still disobedience!
fattyboomba2 4 years ago
and as for peaceful , not only did they assualt staff but also the police on several occassions whilst the they were trying to protect staff from you morons.
fattyboomba2 4 years ago
When/how were they assaulting staff? And the police? I didn't see much.
Draic85 4 years ago
yes, of course. meanwhile when police break the law it's perfectly fine? i'm sorry but it's doubtful that tearing at someone's hair, or punching someone in the gut, constitutes 'reasonable force'. especially given that obviously they did not intend to arrest all of the people at the rally. the police's actions were clearly aggressive.
dirtchild21 4 years ago
I got pushed down the stairs by a security guard without having touched anyone, gone anywhere I wasn't allowed or even saying anything offensive. No one assualted police, though they may have tried to free themselves from a choke-hold or get the police to let go of their hair. And the idea that the staff needed protection from us is absurd. Once again... we're not trying to hurt people, we're trying to stand up for what we believe in.
robbieob 4 years ago
Thought I ought to comment before anyone notices me saying something about a gun that a policeman had. I saw him get out of a car and walk towards us with his hand on his gun. I was so disgusted that the thought of shooting someone had even crossed this guy's mind. Who do the police think we are? Some sort of violent, terrorist revolutionaries? We're just trying to stand up for what we believe in through peaceful resistance.
robbieob 4 years ago
I'm sure the officer had no intention of shooting anyone hippie and your comment was threatening. Strange that they would close the humanities department must be sick of training the unemloyable.
War2war1 4 years ago
My comment was sarcastic. That's why I commented, 'cause it was stupid and sounds bad. And whether education is purely for the sake of perpetuating our dehumanising economic system or whether it's to create an educated, thoughtfull and reasonable populace is the debate that's being shut down by these sorts of decisions.
robbieob 4 years ago
I sure the officer was checking his firearm was locked in place and secure, there would be nothing worse if a protester managed to grab a firearm in the middle of the scuffle.
oxford152 4 years ago
No one would want to grab his firearm, that's the point. We're not violence. We stood in a circle and the police started pulling people's hair and arm-barring them in the throat. I doubt any police even have any scratches. The fact that they come to a peacefull protest with some idea that we're gonna grab a gun and shoot them suggests a move towards the kind of paranoid, shoot-first question later policing you see in the US. It worries me.
robbieob 4 years ago
it is just a automatic check, to make sure the firearm is secure. regardless of the situation.
oxford152 4 years ago