A book by "Migration and cultures" by Thomas Sowell an African-American economist underlines the economic values of the Indians as a migratory people. It an excellent study of the Migration of the Ancesteral Indians to foreign lands ! Check it out !
@416RIZZLE416. Keep seeing NONSENSE about FIJI on youtube videos dealing with indo Caribbean. We have been in the Caribbean since the early 1830's. You're probably black and have some sort of weird political COMPLEX, or from India or Fiji. Why?because Fiji is on the other side of the world. Most of us dont know where we're from in India, much less about Indians in Fiji, in africa or other places...shut the eff up!!. You can't compare a 5th gen person to a 1930's immigrant
I hear now the Chinese are taking over Guyana, the Indo and Afro Guyanese population that have moved out are being repaced with hundreds of Chinese from China that come to Guyana every week. Look it up.
China has recently invested billions in Guyana and many chinese immigrants are moving in in droves. It won't be long til it becomes a Chinese majority country, the same thing happened in Singapore. It was Malaysian, then the Chinese moved in and are now 80% of the population.
I Salute all my ancestors for their Faith in God, Bravery, Courage, Sacrifices, Patience, Humility, Family Values, Unity, Charity, Love , Dedication, Hard Work and all the other Beautiful qualities that they possessed , as they laid for us a very solid Foundation despite all the numerous difficulties that they encountered. We your children are today benefiting from your labors and teachings and we can never repay you for what you have done for us. I am thankful and proud of you .
I am Indian born in India and I think it is amazing that many of you have preserved the culture and traditions of India after so many years in a land so far away.
@twinkitten1 Most 'outside Indians' have left the Caste System a long time ago. It isn't in play in the Carribean. For the Hindu Indians in India, who DO care about the caste, they would probably go by what they 'are'
@ric4022 Of course we are smiling. Out of many one. We know we were also the subject of 1700's English Eugenics experiments. But just to keep you smiling have a look at a Pakistani albino...LOL!!!!!
reading your comments,though some are negative,it is the way you see ,i proud to be an indian but i am proud to see and love to interact to our extended family from around the world cast religion we get it after we land in this world ,for me everyone has two mother one who keeps you in her own body for 9 months and the motherland the provide her womb for rest of your life thanks hisdreams
as much i know dravid are the the natives of india since ages most live in southern states of india this land belong to them.aryan took over this land and pushed dravids to the south,ravana of ramayan was a dravid by maternal ancestry.it happened probably before that ...
i live in canada now migrated from northern state of india.surprized to see indian people from fiji t and t and guyana still holding to their old culture whereas in india its a different story.salutes to your parents
Nice discussion going on here. Have always been wondering where my ancestors are from. My mum is Indo/ afro Trini and my dad is white but mixed with gypsy, so some where back I'm Indo on both sides- but from where I'd never know!
Proud to be an east Indian born in the west Indies. looking at my ancesstors pictures dem mek me realose why I gave all my children indian name. Your name is your identity ppl gave yu children nice indian names . lately I hearing sum name frm indian ppl and is like allyuh pissin on allyuh ancesstors grave .
@mrwarmonga backside!!!!..wham to yu woman???!!! wich part of jamaica yu born? or trinidad ehh..nuff cooly woman hail from trinidad...yu must know seh unu hail from di island and who so eva come from deh yah hold a culture ting dem coulda never tek back home ah india
People think because they speak a different language. That they are not Aryan but people don't know that sage agastya moved south and lord shiva taught him this new language and because of this, those who migrated south learned this new language. The people get darker the more south they go. We all know this. All Indians can tan and some get really dark but can also become very light.
@Vedas4 Mid India is now mixed Aryan/Dravidian(Those who speak dravidian languages that are derived from Tamil) Such as Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada, etc.
@indoguju understand that the Aryan invasion theory has been scrapped by basically all scholars of history. Haplogroups of North and South Indians are almost identical. The origin of all South Indian languages is Tamil correct?
Do you know the origin of this great language? It came from the lips of Shiva Shankar to Agastya Muni who migrated to the south and all who migrated with him spoke this language created by Shiva Shankar of Mount Kailash.
@indoguju The Aryan invasion theory was created by the british in strategy for a civil war of India (Divide and conquer) Today people still believe the dumb brits.
Hope you understand bro.... I'm a graduate with a bachelor's in History, if that means anything to you.
@dnol818 You're guyanese.... so you're probably drunk. Only a drunk person would find my comment funny. Do you know where you're from Indo-guyanese? Bhojpuri is your language and you are from the holiest place in the world, Bihar-Uttar Pradesh. We call it Braj.
This is why people think those who went to Guyana and Trinidad were the lowest of the low. You come from the holiest place in the world, yet you behave like such imbeciles. Shame....
@Vedas4 I never implied that there was an aryan invasion. I am implying that both languages differ, please educate me otherwise. So you're saying Shiva created the language (Tamil)? In one what era please do tell.
Tamil scholars will credit Agastya muni with the creation of the Tamil language. The entire language is different from Sanskrit. It has very few similarities. However we can look back in time on how it traveled south. There are two groups of Brahmin people who live in India. Pancha Gauda and Pancha Dravida. Both descend from the same ancestors but they look different in appearance and they speak different languages. You can ask them who their ancestors are, they agree.
@Vedas4 This is informative for me if its true.If you see my response to your comment can you tell me if you are a tamil?I want to clarify a few things that I learnt recently and I am not sure how much truth in there?
@vidhyarthi1 I am Arya, and so are Tamils. We only have minor differences. Skin tone and language. Same culture, same food, same continent, and same blood!
@Vedas4 As a Tamil Brahmin, I can honestly say I look no different from my North Indian counterparts - oddly, I'm lighter than many of them. Not that that really means anything - simply corroborating what has already been said.
Dark skin and light skin became the caste for people of guyana and Trinidad. But really, its by your birth. A dark person can be a kshatriya. There are south Indian brahmn
Everyone who left India for the west indies were mainly farmers. The British wouldn't bring any random people. They were mainly farmers. Some were chamar who were craftsman I have no idea how chamber became a low nation term. Very few Brahmins and a good amount of Kshatriyas. The singhs were never Sikh in west indies. The east Indian name Singh originated from Kshatriyas from suryavansh lineage.
Majority of Guyanese ppl are tall and big compared to other indians from around the world. Which is odd. I mostly see some Indo Guyanese who look white, spanish, Italian or Filipino. In my mind I think alot of them are mixed with white blood. And alot them claim their 100% indian but i doubt it. Aleast all of the Trinidadians that I've seen look alot like Indians from India and Sri Lankans. Most Trinis are short and small. 1 or 2 that are tall are usually real skinny and look Punjabi or Muslim
Guyanese surnames that are of high caste are Sharma, Rai, and Tagore. Not all Singh's are high caste..most are dalits or untouchables who changed their religion to Sikhism because of the caste system.
@weirdscience1011 I think u are right. An Indian from India told me the same. Some of my first cousins surnames are Rai/Sharma and they were pundits. I believe in respect/ kindest for all, supersedes high/low caste.
@Boxermoney in my family the south indian names were Naidu, Reddi, Chetti, Pillai, on google my family Bio type in Valiama my great great Grandmother, and you'll see a pic of Valiama and three of her daughters, as well as her life bio. She was Born in Nagapattinam in Tamil Nadu India.
@ Boxermonkey Our Madrasi customs and traditions are so different to our brothers and sisters from the north. I grew up in a house where my fathers side were Madrasis from Tamil Nadu, and my mothers side were Northern and Eastern Indians from Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. My great Grandfather came from Tamil Nadu in south India he arrived in Trinidad in 1906 he was of what is known as the Kshatriya Caste and his surname was Naidu
@BoxerMonkey In Trinidad the majority of the Indians came from the North and the East, a minority came from the south>> they were called Madrasis at the time the majority of the Madrasis came from parts today known as Tamil Nadu and Andrah Pradesh, a small minority came from Kerala and Karnataka. I don't know why a lot of west Indians look down at the Madrasi people but you are right they look at them as being low caste which is so far from the truth.
The Guyanese Indians mostly lost their culture because of British suppression of the hindi language and culture during British Guyana. Today the current govt of Guyana still suppresses Indian culture in favor of multiculturalism. One day the Indians of Guyana will cease to exist if they don't put their foot down and demand respect
You cannot find one Guyanese in Guyana who speak Hindi , yet the Dutch in Suriname never supressed the Indians there and alot of them still speak Hindi to this day.
I am a Guyanese America, yet everywhere i go , people ask me if i'm from India or pakistan. one time i went into an indian grocery and bought some basmati rice , the man and a women customer spoke to me in hindi or urdu , i bobbled my head like an indian from india from side to side and said , i am from Guyana I don't speak hindi , and walked out, once they hear your from Guyana , I think they look down on you.
@jupiterscastle if you look like them, there is nothing with them trying to speak Hindi with you. but they have a preference for their people doesn't mean they look down on you.it is just hard to understand other ppl's culture.people are not programmed the same way and it sux lol!
Nicole scherzinger is part philipino, white and a distant african ancestry.she once said that people insisted she must be from pakistan or india.others think she must be latino.
Sometimes I pretend I'm from India and the Indians believe it. I went to a gas station to pay for gas, the guy started speaking to me in hindi or an indian grocery store, sometimes they say brother, I am from India too , then they talk about whatever is on their minds. I shake my head and say 'acha' . In my case, no one thinks I'm from Guyana. I'm not a dark skin Guyanese maybe thats why. I am 94% Indian ancestry and 6% British (white) ancestry. I am tan enough but not dark skin
@jupiterscastle Guyanese Indians aren't dark skin Indians what are you talking about >.< Also why pretend to be from India and not Guyana, you are so fake. And I rather have the Chinese take over Guyana rather than the US. People don't care about Guyana once they have left but when they hear other people are taking it over then they complain, yet they don't think of going back to help the country. If you want to complain move back to Guyana.
I have an Indian friend from India, who pretends to be Guyanese, he even tells me he listens to Terry Gajraj etc.
At first I thought he was from Guyana but it turns out he was from India and his last name is Gupta. His mother said he is from India. But they don't mind that we are friends, They even invited me once for dinner, but I said no thank you. So going back to the look down on you part, some do some don't.
@Lephayne That is some of the Indians who live here in the USA that look down on Indo-caribs - because they don't understand the history (but not all of course). Indo-caribs are considered NRI by India, just like any Indian living outside of India. Unfortunately in India's schools they do not teach about the displaced Indians and indentured servitude, and what the Brits did to them. So they have no idea what happened. Many living in India see all NRI's as the same - no matter where they live.
Wow God bless Youtube & hisdreams for helping people learn about our Caribbean culture. I'm from Jamaica, and I have a lot of Indian mix in my family, especially from my mother's side. My grandmother especially, was a pure Indian woman, no mix. Unlike Trinidad and Guyana, Indian culture in Jamaica seems to be more diluted unfortunately, so for that I'm always curious about this part of Caribbean history.
these Hindu's are a disieses everywhere they go.. hehehe just look at their country, they are the biggest nr1 racists thats undercover with their racism, they are so good at hideing their closet-racist that ONLY when people do a research, thats when they find out that hundu's are caste-system beliveing = Racists...
@CushiticSomalianMale@CushiticSomalianMale that's and ignorant statement there are lots of Indians in the Caribbean who mix with the black population and are not racist,it's the other way around; in my native island seeing black/ indian couples is a common thing, and black/indian mixed people as well. and FYI both the black and indian population living in the Caribbean are much better off than the majority of people living in Somalia.
@CushiticSomalianMale Maybe in your country ;but not in the carribean, so leave your comments for the somalian, kenyan or australian forum, they are your people and leave everyone here alone.
Guyanese indians come from different indian tribes. Guyana has chettris who are light haired(light brown hair) and light eyed(blue,green, or hazel) with yellow skin. Majority of indians that came from India are chamars, who are dark-skinned with dark eyes. Junglees who are from the jungles of India. Ahirs who are peasants. And Madrasi who are from Tamil Nadu. But most guyanese indians are of mongloid-dravid background. Indians in India are of Arabic or Iranian background.
the people from india are true indian, but the indigenous people of the americas and the West Indies are not indians,they were called indians because columbus thought he was in india
@btanma there were Indians from India who were brought in the West-Indies after African slavery was ended, there are still full blood indians descendants of Indians who live in the West-Indies including members of my family.
the people who gave you thumbs up need to learn about the Indian from India diaspora (vs amerindians such as arawak indians whom we know are indigenous people)living in the Caribbean/ West-Indies,
idk why indians (so they say) dont like west indians we come from the same place and if it werent for us who got moved there you guys wouldnt be born in india i think we deserve a little more respect...
@jack3finger thats because some of them are BLACK!!! there are guyanese indian, guyanese black, guyanese prtegese, guyanese spanish..... its a mixture
lol is that why youre still living in a 3rd world country you indian paki srilanka nuthead, look at your aryan-pale-ass self for a chance in the mirror, and wake up to the fact that you're nuthing but a typical taxi driving spice chilli-addicted wannabe a fullblooded white aryan, when infact you're just a mixed mud aryan, that gets rejected with your aryan indian highcaste racist hindu religion and cow worshipping, lol hope i didnt touch 1 of your hairy nerves there son. lol Taxi !
@mpcody86 Thats a bunch of crackpot bullshit and wishful thinking. An irredeemable racists ignorant bigot such as you is a waste of time. "populated by" WHAT "Europeans and Arabs through out ancient times"? LOL.There might be some people there in the delta who maybe White but they were colonized by Blacks from the south who ushered in the dynastic periods. "Menes" the Pharaoh of dynasty one sculptures show him as a Black man because he was a Black man
@mpcody86 "Those fuckers"? HAHA. Spoken like a true hateful and miserable bigot. I pray the day dark skinned Indians whom you despised chase
devils like you out of India and off of the planet. You are right about one thing: Black and dark skinned Indians did migrated to the south to distance themselves from pale devils like you. Contrary to your wishful thinking: there are MANY Black people as we speak in India and Asia, and many Dravidians identified themselves as Black people.
@jack3finger Thats because they are "dravidian" Indians. You will find the majority of these types of Indians in South India, especially in Madras. Many Madrasi Indians are very dark, some even darker than Africans. Madrasi Indians were brought to the Caribbean as well.
@jack3finger No they don't.......skin color does not MAKE your race. They may have the same skin color as Africans, but that does NOT mean they are the same thing as a African?, they have Caucasian features, ie straight nose, straight narrow lips, straight hair a fore that's not overlapping, hence they are classified as Caucasians.
lol is that why youre still living in a 3rd world country you indian paki srilanka nuthead, look at your aryan-pale-ass self for a chance in the mirror, and wake up to the fact that you're nuthing but a typical taxi driving spice chilli-addicted wannabe a fullblooded white aryan, when infact you're just a mixed mud aryan, that gets rejected with your aryan indian highcaste racist hindu religion and cow worshipping.. lol hope i didnt touch 1 of your hairy nerves there son.. lol Taxi !
Who could it be but a ignorant bigoted racists Hindu probably a Brahmin.?
Or a white supremacist Indian? People like him always have to resort to outdated debunked terms and concepts such as the "Caucasian hypothesis" to divide people
@CushiticSomalianMale hey you shouldn't talk like that about any one. Somalians are poorer than Indians and work at as much as if not more 7-11s and taxis than any Indian does. and you can't make fun of Indians for trying to be white when Somalis want to be Arabic....just saying. btw i'm not Indian i just call it like it is
@mpcody86 I dont know who u are, but thats some outdated Euro centric bullshit you are spouting claiming to be facts. "straight nose, straight narrow lips, straight hair a fore that's not overlapping" is not limited to "Caucasians" some Africans without any connections to the Caucus Mountain or to"Caucasians" got them too, And in case you didn't know: the dominant consensus is that the first people in India are Black people from Africa.
also dont bother giving attention to a attention-seeking aryan hairy spicy ragheaded dot-headed dude... because obviously he/she knows that the 1st indians are indeed abOriginals a kinfolk to the abOriginal REAL Australians and PapuaNewGuineans and ect.. also hence the dude admits indirectly to the fact that he aint nuthing but a imposter hehe.. and that explains why even the white people he tries so hard to ass-lick, even they dont like his aryan-ass.. lol!
at stormfront begging to be accepted for his as to him "Caucasian features" while talking down bigoted craps on other Indians. That is if he is even an Indian and not a American ect White supremacist nut job in disguise, he sure appear as one
yess fam, indeed he do appear as one, that Lowlife-ass Melanin-deficient-ass Ethnic part-Neanderthal Caucasian-ass... - closet-Racist..... indeed..... mos def
my grand father keeps telling me stories his father told him about how badly my great great grand father was treated by the british..btw i am africaan west indian...
i wanna knw if trini,guyanese ppl from india can speak hindi? can some1 tell me?
@stunner555 Mostly the older people are able to speak and understand Hindi...There is some understanding to some Hindi words spoken tho for some people because it's common to hear it..
im from the caribbean too,ARUBA . its close to venezuala but i dont know what indians where there 1st.i think they where caiquetio or something like that
My grandfather's father's side of the family (confusing?) hails from Punjab (Kshatriya). His wife's family hails from Calcutta (no idea). Our nationality is Guyanese. It's awesome, isn't it? The mixture of regions lol.
when i look at the pics of the early immigrants its funny how much we have evolved from them. I bet if i go to india people would be questioning my background
And India and its people have evolved too,I go there and theres people with cell phones,PSPs,etc roads are not fuck up. Things are changing rapidly sense I came to the states 11 year ago... But it has its problems also...
Most of Guyanese are from North India(Bihar,UP,Calcutta,etC) and Tamil Nadu(south India). I dont know if there are any come from Kerala,Punjab,Rajustan,etc..
There were a few ships that have left Kerala (Malabar) to Fiji, Trinidad and Guyana. The people from Kerala merged w/ the Madrasis because they are basically the same ppl and were considered the same. Punjabis (hindus) were also brought to the Caribbean, I know there is enough in Trinidad.
I cant tell,I just read about what part of India,Indo-Guyanese,Trini,etc come from,because in NYC when I was young I thought they were Indian,but found out they were Guyanese,Trini,etc. So I was like WTF is a Guyanese so i got curious and searched and found out your forefathers are from India.
Bangladesh was created in 1971 it was India back then. And I would say almost all came India,from every major port and from the coasts. Afghanistan and Nepal was not under British India,and they are landlocked countrys..
Punjabis were probably sent in 2 but my guess would b they were a rare addition judging from the music of guyana today. Guyanese music (if I may generalize) is bhojpuri style which is bihar, up area.
@BengalG3 where did you find this information? can you send it to me please. btw do you know if their was any ethnic tensions between the different indian cultures? im very interetsed in this
@FullSwagSyceGame507 what information? Yes there are always some tension between different Indian cultures and people. Tamils, Punjabis, Malayaliis, Assamese, etc, etc, etc. India is very diverse so it will have tension. I North East India you have Indians like Sikkimese, Assamese, etc, etc, etc that look like hybrid Chinese-Indians. Like Nepali people. There is a territory called andaman islands.These people look African and are related to the VERY old Africans that moved all over the world.
@FullSwagSyceGame507 India is a very diverse place. Diversity means there will be tension, but for the most part everyone is vibing. And everyone is proud of the Indian heritage.
Bottom Line, before any and all of this the Arawaks owned much, if not all of the Caribbean. I'm talking pre Columbus or any other invader from across the seas who would eventually bring disease and death to such a peace loving tribe! What took place in the following centuries here in the USA was even viler!
BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE & CULTIURE .YOU COME FROM A ANCIENT CIVILISATION, LEARN ABOUT iNDIA , bETTER STILL VISIT INDIA , DONOT FEEL INFERIOR TO ANYONE , INDIA AND PEOPLE OF INDIA LOVE YOU AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU. KEEP YOUR LANGUAGE ALIVE SPEAK HINDI TAMIL TO YOUR CHLDREN
Dark ppl in India aren't restricted to just the south. About 70% of the Indians in the Caribbean originate from Uttar Pradesh, Bengal, Punjab, Haryana, etc. The rest come from south like Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala, etc. The term for a Tamil in the Caribbean is "Madrasi".
was the term for tamils in caribean, that can be found offensive now
seeing how trinidad was a spanish/portuguese colony if i'm not mistaken, guyana a british, and surinam a dutch, the indians found in these islands on the most part would come from different parts of india
i know in surinam, there is a ethnic group of indians there called the Nathan's, who distinctively maintained alot of tamil heritage, linguistics, and names.
but even the guyanese, and the trinidadians, are you sure it is that 70% of them come from northern india?
because it looks to me like 30% of them do
i have seen white skin indians from carribean to don't get me wrong, but my group of friends is come from all sorts of backgrounds, and the people who are not tamil and indian always at first find a hard time distinguishing tamils and west indians, they look similar in features, and i found alot of the names are similar too like ragunadan
Trinidad was initially colonized by the spanish/portuguese, but then it became colonized by British and thats how the Indians got there. As I said before, dark Indians are not restricted to just South, however the darkest come from the south. If you go to the villages of Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Jharkand and Bengal, a lot of those Indians are a dark brown to dark. Their features are little different than the Southern Indians.
The dominant Indian culture in the West Indies originates from UP/Bihar. Traditions like maticor, chowtal, phagwah, etc. All that is northeastern Indian village culture. Raghunanan can be traced from Bihar regions. The common language that most west Indians ancestors spoker was "Bhojpuri", a dialect of Hindi. However, there are strong Tamil communitiees in Trinidad and Guyana. Did you know there is a "Kaliamman" temple in Trinidad? Deities in there like Karuppusamy, Muniswaran, etc.
for worshipping karuppusamy and muniswaran, we use drums like urumi melam, or parai drumming. i wonder if they incorparate tassa drumming into there worship, do you know?
also i have read up on bhojpuri, it is the most common that was spoken among the indians in the americas. in brazil today, there exist a broken language that's mixed of bhojpuri and portuguese
type in "indian break dancing" and click the video with this old guy dancing, kind of funny, but you see a style of drumming with similar instruments used in tassa
also type in Vellala, it should be the first video, kongu nadu meet in karumathampatti, i think the drums in that look similar and sound very similar to the ones used in tassa music.
though w. indian drumming is very festive, also very nice, e. indian drumming is more war like
The tassa drum is a common drum throughout India, it is played differently in different parts. The tassa beats in Trinidad are originally Indian based, but have improvised over time.
Those people were poor, the British and the others had the opportunity to lure them in to false promises,and placed them in to different islands where they didnt have any means of communicating with there relatives or love ones.Therefore through the passage of time and harsh treatment they forgot about India, but India still loves them.Its only the new generation cant ignore the fact that they are being called Indians by there fellow citizens,has raised the curiosity to search there ancestors.
I enjoyed seeing these photo of the first indians of the west indies.i am afro trini,i feel a connect to them because my best friends were indian when i was growing up in T&T.I now reside in Qatar.love those photo
@CheezInspector The Caribbean had many different indigenous peoples and groups! The Caribbean includes many islands! There were Tainos, Ciboneys, Caribs, and Arawaks and those of the South American Carobbean coastlines!
@chsn09, right, they do. I think my point was the Africans don't appear to be indigenous to the island. Was that my point? LOL I'm trying to keep track of a bunch of vids I responded to lately and am having trouble tracking my original comments O:
@CheezInspector Huh? Please reread my comment and your original statement! I made no mention of Africans being indigenous to the islands! I was strictly naming the Indigenous Aborigines pplz of the islands! You said Arawaks were the only indigenous pplz so I informed you on the different indigenous groups of the Caribbean lol
@chsn09, again, I'm trying to keep track of a bunch of vids I responded to lately and am having trouble tracking my original comments. Anyway, nothing you just said is in dispute. Yeah, I've always understood there are several groups of indigenous people in the Caribbean.
these ppl were poor in india and set out to make a living for themselves unlike north indians like me who were well off cuz of my ancestral riches british could'nt fuck with us. I enjoy seeing indians who are from different countries, it's interesting.
British could not fuck with you ! They just about exterminated you and plundered all your wealth and stole your land and put you on reservations. East Indians can thrive and prosper anywhere on this globe.
Beautiful slide show! What is this Raga? It is very nice.
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A book by "Migration and cultures" by Thomas Sowell an African-American economist underlines the economic values of the Indians as a migratory people. It an excellent study of the Migration of the Ancesteral Indians to foreign lands ! Check it out !
workhardt2 1 week ago
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workhardt2 1 week ago
I didn't even bother watching the video, but why are they there? Fuck off Indian dirtbags ughhhh.
naturalhairedhoney 1 week ago
@naturalhairedhoney
So if ur African descent why don't u leave for Africa ! Isn't that ur native land ?
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workhardt2 2 weeks ago
@workhardt2 Fuck off, there are a lot of blacks who don't even want your kind there.
naturalhairedhoney 1 week ago
@naturalhairedhoney
Did i say i was thinking of immigrating there !
Bastard ?
workhardt2 1 week ago
beautiful collection of pictures. nice historical video. great job!
srinivassiddarth 2 months ago
it's hard to tell them from blacks
PrinceDreLance 2 months ago
I dont know why Indians stick to thier own race in America....Atleast Trini indian do, there not affraid to date outside there race
09Twister 3 months ago
IT'S FUNNY HOW NOBODY MENTIONS THE DISPLACED INDIANS OF FIJI ISLANDS.
416RIZZLE416 5 months ago
@416RIZZLE416. Keep seeing NONSENSE about FIJI on youtube videos dealing with indo Caribbean. We have been in the Caribbean since the early 1830's. You're probably black and have some sort of weird political COMPLEX, or from India or Fiji. Why?because Fiji is on the other side of the world. Most of us dont know where we're from in India, much less about Indians in Fiji, in africa or other places...shut the eff up!!. You can't compare a 5th gen person to a 1930's immigrant
flabnblab 1 month ago
4 jamaica i thought they were gonna put bob marley :P
guyanachillz 6 months ago
@guyanachillz
lol. Gud one. :D weh Bob M. deh :D
And wow I never knw abt this..
Miss Guyana!!
SWEETloveer01 5 months ago
I hear now the Chinese are taking over Guyana, the Indo and Afro Guyanese population that have moved out are being repaced with hundreds of Chinese from China that come to Guyana every week. Look it up.
China has recently invested billions in Guyana and many chinese immigrants are moving in in droves. It won't be long til it becomes a Chinese majority country, the same thing happened in Singapore. It was Malaysian, then the Chinese moved in and are now 80% of the population.
jupiterscastle 7 months ago
Very informative. Thank you so much for your video
SuperRongil 8 months ago in playlist TriniDoc
I Salute all my ancestors for their Faith in God, Bravery, Courage, Sacrifices, Patience, Humility, Family Values, Unity, Charity, Love , Dedication, Hard Work and all the other Beautiful qualities that they possessed , as they laid for us a very solid Foundation despite all the numerous difficulties that they encountered. We your children are today benefiting from your labors and teachings and we can never repay you for what you have done for us. I am thankful and proud of you .
SuperSnk1 9 months ago
Is there a certain name for the photos that are old yet still show bright colours ?
9852193 10 months ago
how do we know those were really people in guyana or trinidad?
PostedForYou 10 months ago
I am Indian born in India and I think it is amazing that many of you have preserved the culture and traditions of India after so many years in a land so far away.
wing2912 10 months ago 2
what about india's caste system? would outside indians be accepted?
twinkitten1 11 months ago
@twinkitten1 Most 'outside Indians' have left the Caste System a long time ago. It isn't in play in the Carribean. For the Hindu Indians in India, who DO care about the caste, they would probably go by what they 'are'
butterchicken4 10 months ago
anywhere you go were all still indian !
ThePunjabdholi123456 11 months ago 2
This is great, makes me have so much more respect for my ancestry!! proud that i can say I have Indian blood. I can play the sitar as well!!!
Jamaican004 11 months ago
Ya but could any of them play an instrument.
darthjames1 1 year ago
@darthjames1 Yes Many of them played instruments. There are many indians in Guyana and Trinidad who play Tabla, Dhol, Harmonium, Sitar, etc.
My great grandfather who came from India played Sitar. I do too.
Vedas4 1 year ago
My grandparents come from India as workers years ago, i was born in the beautiful island of Barbados
zule879 1 year ago
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zule879 1 year ago
Mys came from India they move to Barbados years ago,i was born there
zule879 1 year ago
I bet you won't catch no west indians smiling during this time.
ric4022 1 year ago
@ric4022 Of course we are smiling. Out of many one. We know we were also the subject of 1700's English Eugenics experiments. But just to keep you smiling have a look at a Pakistani albino...LOL!!!!!
Procharmo 1 year ago
do visit india at least once i know you wont have any problem with the language
rupinderkhinda 1 year ago
reading your comments,though some are negative,it is the way you see ,i proud to be an indian but i am proud to see and love to interact to our extended family from around the world cast religion we get it after we land in this world ,for me everyone has two mother one who keeps you in her own body for 9 months and the motherland the provide her womb for rest of your life thanks hisdreams
rupinderkhinda 1 year ago
as much i know dravid are the the natives of india since ages most live in southern states of india this land belong to them.aryan took over this land and pushed dravids to the south,ravana of ramayan was a dravid by maternal ancestry.it happened probably before that ...
i live in canada now migrated from northern state of india.surprized to see indian people from fiji t and t and guyana still holding to their old culture whereas in india its a different story.salutes to your parents
rupinderkhinda 1 year ago
Nice discussion going on here. Have always been wondering where my ancestors are from. My mum is Indo/ afro Trini and my dad is white but mixed with gypsy, so some where back I'm Indo on both sides- but from where I'd never know!
BTW the music is making me high...
trinimascott 1 year ago
Proud to be an east Indian born in the west Indies. looking at my ancesstors pictures dem mek me realose why I gave all my children indian name. Your name is your identity ppl gave yu children nice indian names . lately I hearing sum name frm indian ppl and is like allyuh pissin on allyuh ancesstors grave .
mrwarmonga 1 year ago 10
@mrwarmonga calm down
MyRealtalktv 11 months ago
@mrwarmonga backside!!!!..wham to yu woman???!!! wich part of jamaica yu born? or trinidad ehh..nuff cooly woman hail from trinidad...yu must know seh unu hail from di island and who so eva come from deh yah hold a culture ting dem coulda never tek back home ah india
lyfe1zruff 3 months ago
Respond to this video... dash out di indian name ting man cah all we same flag same nation
lyfe1zruff 3 months ago
People think because they speak a different language. That they are not Aryan but people don't know that sage agastya moved south and lord shiva taught him this new language and because of this, those who migrated south learned this new language. The people get darker the more south they go. We all know this. All Indians can tan and some get really dark but can also become very light.
Vedas4 1 year ago
All people of the Indian subcontinent are Aryan. South Indians are characterized by their language Tamil and telegu,
Vedas4 1 year ago
@Vedas4 Mid India is now mixed Aryan/Dravidian(Those who speak dravidian languages that are derived from Tamil) Such as Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada, etc.
indoguju 1 year ago
@indoguju understand that the Aryan invasion theory has been scrapped by basically all scholars of history. Haplogroups of North and South Indians are almost identical. The origin of all South Indian languages is Tamil correct?
Do you know the origin of this great language? It came from the lips of Shiva Shankar to Agastya Muni who migrated to the south and all who migrated with him spoke this language created by Shiva Shankar of Mount Kailash.
Vedas4 1 year ago
@indoguju The Aryan invasion theory was created by the british in strategy for a civil war of India (Divide and conquer) Today people still believe the dumb brits.
Hope you understand bro.... I'm a graduate with a bachelor's in History, if that means anything to you.
peace
Vedas4 1 year ago
@Vedas4 he said peace and mentioned his degree-funny stuff
dnol818 1 year ago
@dnol818 You're guyanese.... so you're probably drunk. Only a drunk person would find my comment funny. Do you know where you're from Indo-guyanese? Bhojpuri is your language and you are from the holiest place in the world, Bihar-Uttar Pradesh. We call it Braj.
This is why people think those who went to Guyana and Trinidad were the lowest of the low. You come from the holiest place in the world, yet you behave like such imbeciles. Shame....
Vedas4 1 year ago
@Vedas4 I never implied that there was an aryan invasion. I am implying that both languages differ, please educate me otherwise. So you're saying Shiva created the language (Tamil)? In one what era please do tell.
indoguju 1 year ago
@indoguju
Tamil scholars will credit Agastya muni with the creation of the Tamil language. The entire language is different from Sanskrit. It has very few similarities. However we can look back in time on how it traveled south. There are two groups of Brahmin people who live in India. Pancha Gauda and Pancha Dravida. Both descend from the same ancestors but they look different in appearance and they speak different languages. You can ask them who their ancestors are, they agree.
Vedas4 1 year ago
@Vedas4 This is informative for me if its true.If you see my response to your comment can you tell me if you are a tamil?I want to clarify a few things that I learnt recently and I am not sure how much truth in there?
vidhyarthi1 11 months ago
@vidhyarthi1 I am Arya, and so are Tamils. We only have minor differences. Skin tone and language. Same culture, same food, same continent, and same blood!
Ask me. :)
Vedas4 11 months ago
@Vedas4 As a Tamil Brahmin, I can honestly say I look no different from my North Indian counterparts - oddly, I'm lighter than many of them. Not that that really means anything - simply corroborating what has already been said.
Dzongka 7 months ago
@indoguju shiva and shakti are the energy that flows from the base of your spine to your crown chakra. Kundalini yoga practice will clarify things.
shubroto81 2 months ago
Dark skin and light skin became the caste for people of guyana and Trinidad. But really, its by your birth. A dark person can be a kshatriya. There are south Indian brahmn
Vedas4 1 year ago 4
Everyone who left India for the west indies were mainly farmers. The British wouldn't bring any random people. They were mainly farmers. Some were chamar who were craftsman I have no idea how chamber became a low nation term. Very few Brahmins and a good amount of Kshatriyas. The singhs were never Sikh in west indies. The east Indian name Singh originated from Kshatriyas from suryavansh lineage.
Vedas4 1 year ago
7:09 she's beautiful
weirdscience1011 1 year ago
Majority of Guyanese ppl are tall and big compared to other indians from around the world. Which is odd. I mostly see some Indo Guyanese who look white, spanish, Italian or Filipino. In my mind I think alot of them are mixed with white blood. And alot them claim their 100% indian but i doubt it. Aleast all of the Trinidadians that I've seen look alot like Indians from India and Sri Lankans. Most Trinis are short and small. 1 or 2 that are tall are usually real skinny and look Punjabi or Muslim
weirdscience1011 1 year ago
Guyanese surnames that are of high caste are Sharma, Rai, and Tagore. Not all Singh's are high caste..most are dalits or untouchables who changed their religion to Sikhism because of the caste system.
weirdscience1011 1 year ago 2
@weirdscience1011 I think u are right. An Indian from India told me the same. Some of my first cousins surnames are Rai/Sharma and they were pundits. I believe in respect/ kindest for all, supersedes high/low caste.
rai6592 4 months ago
@Boxermoney in my family the south indian names were Naidu, Reddi, Chetti, Pillai, on google my family Bio type in Valiama my great great Grandmother, and you'll see a pic of Valiama and three of her daughters, as well as her life bio. She was Born in Nagapattinam in Tamil Nadu India.
Kshatriya4u77 1 year ago
@ Boxermonkey Our Madrasi customs and traditions are so different to our brothers and sisters from the north. I grew up in a house where my fathers side were Madrasis from Tamil Nadu, and my mothers side were Northern and Eastern Indians from Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. My great Grandfather came from Tamil Nadu in south India he arrived in Trinidad in 1906 he was of what is known as the Kshatriya Caste and his surname was Naidu
Kshatriya4u77 1 year ago
@BoxerMonkey In Trinidad the majority of the Indians came from the North and the East, a minority came from the south>> they were called Madrasis at the time the majority of the Madrasis came from parts today known as Tamil Nadu and Andrah Pradesh, a small minority came from Kerala and Karnataka. I don't know why a lot of west Indians look down at the Madrasi people but you are right they look at them as being low caste which is so far from the truth.
Kshatriya4u77 1 year ago
The Guyanese Indians mostly lost their culture because of British suppression of the hindi language and culture during British Guyana. Today the current govt of Guyana still suppresses Indian culture in favor of multiculturalism. One day the Indians of Guyana will cease to exist if they don't put their foot down and demand respect
You cannot find one Guyanese in Guyana who speak Hindi , yet the Dutch in Suriname never supressed the Indians there and alot of them still speak Hindi to this day.
jupiterscastle 1 year ago 2
I am a Guyanese America, yet everywhere i go , people ask me if i'm from India or pakistan. one time i went into an indian grocery and bought some basmati rice , the man and a women customer spoke to me in hindi or urdu , i bobbled my head like an indian from india from side to side and said , i am from Guyana I don't speak hindi , and walked out, once they hear your from Guyana , I think they look down on you.
jupiterscastle 1 year ago 2
@jupiterscastle if you look like them, there is nothing with them trying to speak Hindi with you. but they have a preference for their people doesn't mean they look down on you.it is just hard to understand other ppl's culture.people are not programmed the same way and it sux lol!
Nicole scherzinger is part philipino, white and a distant african ancestry.she once said that people insisted she must be from pakistan or india.others think she must be latino.
cannoir 1 year ago
@jupiterscastle It is true that as soon as they hear you are from Guyana they look down on you!
Reasons being, that the indentured servants who went to Guyana from India came from
some of the poorest communities in india and were of the lowest cast.
Lephayne 7 months ago
@jupiterscastle Today Indians from India will not even have an Indian Guyanese work for them because
they are considered lower than dogs.
It is a very hard reality for a lot of Indo Guyanese to face. Now in Canada more and more
Indo Guyanese are calling them selves Black and are doing so with a sense of PRIDE
Lephayne 7 months ago
@Lephayne
Sometimes I pretend I'm from India and the Indians believe it. I went to a gas station to pay for gas, the guy started speaking to me in hindi or an indian grocery store, sometimes they say brother, I am from India too , then they talk about whatever is on their minds. I shake my head and say 'acha' . In my case, no one thinks I'm from Guyana. I'm not a dark skin Guyanese maybe thats why. I am 94% Indian ancestry and 6% British (white) ancestry. I am tan enough but not dark skin
jupiterscastle 7 months ago
@jupiterscastle Guyanese Indians aren't dark skin Indians what are you talking about >.< Also why pretend to be from India and not Guyana, you are so fake. And I rather have the Chinese take over Guyana rather than the US. People don't care about Guyana once they have left but when they hear other people are taking it over then they complain, yet they don't think of going back to help the country. If you want to complain move back to Guyana.
Sood81 2 months ago
@Lephayne
I have an Indian friend from India, who pretends to be Guyanese, he even tells me he listens to Terry Gajraj etc.
At first I thought he was from Guyana but it turns out he was from India and his last name is Gupta. His mother said he is from India. But they don't mind that we are friends, They even invited me once for dinner, but I said no thank you. So going back to the look down on you part, some do some don't.
jupiterscastle 7 months ago
@jupiterscastle It is not all of them who behave in such a manner.
Especially when they themselves realise that some
other people(different races) see and refer to them
in derogatory terms.
The caste system is today being rejected by the
younger generation of Indians.
Lephayne 7 months ago
@Lephayne That is some of the Indians who live here in the USA that look down on Indo-caribs - because they don't understand the history (but not all of course). Indo-caribs are considered NRI by India, just like any Indian living outside of India. Unfortunately in India's schools they do not teach about the displaced Indians and indentured servitude, and what the Brits did to them. So they have no idea what happened. Many living in India see all NRI's as the same - no matter where they live.
pushpanjali 5 months ago
Wow God bless Youtube & hisdreams for helping people learn about our Caribbean culture. I'm from Jamaica, and I have a lot of Indian mix in my family, especially from my mother's side. My grandmother especially, was a pure Indian woman, no mix. Unlike Trinidad and Guyana, Indian culture in Jamaica seems to be more diluted unfortunately, so for that I'm always curious about this part of Caribbean history.
Strictlydibes 1 year ago
I mean to write etc not ect
jack3finger 1 year ago
You all are trully blessed. The African's culture was beaten out of them.
SistaAnn 1 year ago
Also a lot of Indians came to Surinam.
Marshano100 1 year ago
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FullSwagSyceGame507 1 year ago
i think it's crazy that they've been in our country (T&T, guyana) for YEARS and they are MAD RACIST!!!
myronmlawing 1 year ago
these Hindu's are a disieses everywhere they go.. hehehe just look at their country, they are the biggest nr1 racists thats undercover with their racism, they are so good at hideing their closet-racist that ONLY when people do a research, thats when they find out that hundu's are caste-system beliveing = Racists...
CushiticSomalianMale 1 year ago
@CushiticSomalianMale @CushiticSomalianMale that's and ignorant statement there are lots of Indians in the Caribbean who mix with the black population and are not racist,it's the other way around; in my native island seeing black/ indian couples is a common thing, and black/indian mixed people as well. and FYI both the black and indian population living in the Caribbean are much better off than the majority of people living in Somalia.
Candyprincess971 1 year ago
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mpcody86 1 year ago
@CushiticSomalianMale Maybe in your country ;but not in the carribean, so leave your comments for the somalian, kenyan or australian forum, they are your people and leave everyone here alone.
subroto81 1 year ago
Guyanese indians come from different indian tribes. Guyana has chettris who are light haired(light brown hair) and light eyed(blue,green, or hazel) with yellow skin. Majority of indians that came from India are chamars, who are dark-skinned with dark eyes. Junglees who are from the jungles of India. Ahirs who are peasants. And Madrasi who are from Tamil Nadu. But most guyanese indians are of mongloid-dravid background. Indians in India are of Arabic or Iranian background.
RonnyPalathinkal 1 year ago
very good job in getting these historical photos bravo
doosriradha 1 year ago
the people from india are true indian, but the indigenous people of the americas and the West Indies are not indians,they were called indians because columbus thought he was in india
btanma 1 year ago
@btanma there were Indians from India who were brought in the West-Indies after African slavery was ended, there are still full blood indians descendants of Indians who live in the West-Indies including members of my family.
Candyprincess971 1 year ago
the people who gave you thumbs up need to learn about the Indian from India diaspora (vs amerindians such as arawak indians whom we know are indigenous people)living in the Caribbean/ West-Indies,
Candyprincess971 1 year ago
idk why indians (so they say) dont like west indians we come from the same place and if it werent for us who got moved there you guys wouldnt be born in india i think we deserve a little more respect...
MiZzAvantikA 1 year ago
Some of them look just like black people where the
only distinction is the hair
jack3finger 1 year ago
@jack3finger thats because some of them are BLACK!!! there are guyanese indian, guyanese black, guyanese prtegese, guyanese spanish..... its a mixture
MiZzAvantikA 1 year ago
@MiZzAvantikA Yes i know there is a lot of mixtures, but
i was talking about some of the Indians who came over from India,
their dark skinned ,facial features, but with straight hair
jack3finger 1 year ago
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mpcody86 1 year ago
@mpcody86
lol is that why youre still living in a 3rd world country you indian paki srilanka nuthead, look at your aryan-pale-ass self for a chance in the mirror, and wake up to the fact that you're nuthing but a typical taxi driving spice chilli-addicted wannabe a fullblooded white aryan, when infact you're just a mixed mud aryan, that gets rejected with your aryan indian highcaste racist hindu religion and cow worshipping, lol hope i didnt touch 1 of your hairy nerves there son. lol Taxi !
CushiticSomalianMale 1 year ago
@mpcody86 Thats a bunch of crackpot bullshit and wishful thinking. An irredeemable racists ignorant bigot such as you is a waste of time. "populated by" WHAT "Europeans and Arabs through out ancient times"? LOL.There might be some people there in the delta who maybe White but they were colonized by Blacks from the south who ushered in the dynastic periods. "Menes" the Pharaoh of dynasty one sculptures show him as a Black man because he was a Black man
jack3finger 1 year ago
@mpcody86 "Those fuckers"? HAHA. Spoken like a true hateful and miserable bigot. I pray the day dark skinned Indians whom you despised chase
devils like you out of India and off of the planet. You are right about one thing: Black and dark skinned Indians did migrated to the south to distance themselves from pale devils like you. Contrary to your wishful thinking: there are MANY Black people as we speak in India and Asia, and many Dravidians identified themselves as Black people.
jack3finger 1 year ago
@jack3finger Thats because they are "dravidian" Indians. You will find the majority of these types of Indians in South India, especially in Madras. Many Madrasi Indians are very dark, some even darker than Africans. Madrasi Indians were brought to the Caribbean as well.
soundcheck2k7 1 year ago
@jack3finger No they don't.......skin color does not MAKE your race. They may have the same skin color as Africans, but that does NOT mean they are the same thing as a African?, they have Caucasian features, ie straight nose, straight narrow lips, straight hair a fore that's not overlapping, hence they are classified as Caucasians.
mpcody86 1 year ago
@mpcody86
lol is that why youre still living in a 3rd world country you indian paki srilanka nuthead, look at your aryan-pale-ass self for a chance in the mirror, and wake up to the fact that you're nuthing but a typical taxi driving spice chilli-addicted wannabe a fullblooded white aryan, when infact you're just a mixed mud aryan, that gets rejected with your aryan indian highcaste racist hindu religion and cow worshipping.. lol hope i didnt touch 1 of your hairy nerves there son.. lol Taxi !
CushiticSomalianMale 1 year ago
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mpcody86 1 year ago
@CushiticSomalianMale LOL "you never see smoke without fire"
Who could it be but a ignorant bigoted racists Hindu probably a Brahmin.?
Or a white supremacist Indian? People like him always have to resort to outdated debunked terms and concepts such as the "Caucasian hypothesis" to divide people
jack3finger 1 year ago
@CushiticSomalianMale hey you shouldn't talk like that about any one. Somalians are poorer than Indians and work at as much as if not more 7-11s and taxis than any Indian does. and you can't make fun of Indians for trying to be white when Somalis want to be Arabic....just saying. btw i'm not Indian i just call it like it is
FullSwagSyceGame507 11 months ago
@mpcody86 I dont know who u are, but thats some outdated Euro centric bullshit you are spouting claiming to be facts. "straight nose, straight narrow lips, straight hair a fore that's not overlapping" is not limited to "Caucasians" some Africans without any connections to the Caucus Mountain or to"Caucasians" got them too, And in case you didn't know: the dominant consensus is that the first people in India are Black people from Africa.
jack3finger 1 year ago
@jack3finger
yes fam.. i agree..
also dont bother giving attention to a attention-seeking aryan hairy spicy ragheaded dot-headed dude... because obviously he/she knows that the 1st indians are indeed abOriginals a kinfolk to the abOriginal REAL Australians and PapuaNewGuineans and ect.. also hence the dude admits indirectly to the fact that he aint nuthing but a imposter hehe.. and that explains why even the white people he tries so hard to ass-lick, even they dont like his aryan-ass.. lol!
CushiticSomalianMale 1 year ago
@CushiticSomalianMale Yes fam! That "mpcody86" is the type a clown you find
at stormfront begging to be accepted for his as to him "Caucasian features" while talking down bigoted craps on other Indians. That is if he is even an Indian and not a American ect White supremacist nut job in disguise, he sure appear as one
jack3finger 1 year ago
@jack3finger
yess fam, indeed he do appear as one, that Lowlife-ass Melanin-deficient-ass Ethnic part-Neanderthal Caucasian-ass... - closet-Racist..... indeed..... mos def
HTP fam
CushiticSomalianMale 1 year ago
@CushiticSomalianMale Indeed fam! These bigoted nut jobs think they could
lie to the world forever without anybody finding out or challenged them
HTP Fam!
jack3finger 1 year ago
@jack3finger PPPFFT
thoostorm4 1 year ago
They're dalits.
Africanpride2009 1 year ago
my grand father keeps telling me stories his father told him about how badly my great great grand father was treated by the british..btw i am africaan west indian...
i wanna knw if trini,guyanese ppl from india can speak hindi? can some1 tell me?
stunner555 1 year ago
@stunner555 Mostly the older people are able to speak and understand Hindi...There is some understanding to some Hindi words spoken tho for some people because it's common to hear it..
blueyeindian 1 year ago
how come theres indians living in carribean back then can some one please reply and tell me
TheGREATEST95 1 year ago
The British brought them over as indentures worker.
mykeman89 1 year ago
indentured*
mykeman89 1 year ago
@TheGREATEST95 they were basically braught over as indentured servents(slaves) and left their
FullSwagSyceGame507 1 year ago
im from the caribbean too,ARUBA . its close to venezuala but i dont know what indians where there 1st.i think they where caiquetio or something like that
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RajaYardy 1 year ago
My grandfather's father's side of the family (confusing?) hails from Punjab (Kshatriya). His wife's family hails from Calcutta (no idea). Our nationality is Guyanese. It's awesome, isn't it? The mixture of regions lol.
blazin436 2 years ago
lols true in others words we're a mulatto.
I am fijian btw
Lilzoify 2 years ago
when i look at the pics of the early immigrants its funny how much we have evolved from them. I bet if i go to india people would be questioning my background
Lilzoify 2 years ago 2
And India and its people have evolved too,I go there and theres people with cell phones,PSPs,etc roads are not fuck up. Things are changing rapidly sense I came to the states 11 year ago... But it has its problems also...
BengalG3 2 years ago
@BengalG3 i understand
Lilzoify 2 years ago
@BengalG3 can you tell the difference between bengladeshis and indians just askin out of curiosity
Lilzoify 2 years ago
Not really man..
BengalG3 2 years ago
i doubt it
truespur 2 years ago
Most of Guyanese are from North India(Bihar,UP,Calcutta,etC) and Tamil Nadu(south India). I dont know if there are any come from Kerala,Punjab,Rajustan,etc..
BengalG3 2 years ago
There were a few ships that have left Kerala (Malabar) to Fiji, Trinidad and Guyana. The people from Kerala merged w/ the Madrasis because they are basically the same ppl and were considered the same. Punjabis (hindus) were also brought to the Caribbean, I know there is enough in Trinidad.
soundcheck2k7 2 years ago 5
well cant tell a difference anyways..all looks same to me./
BengalG3 2 years ago
funny you say that we can easily tell who is from india and who is from fiji just by one glance. I
Lilzoify 2 years ago
I cant tell,I just read about what part of India,Indo-Guyanese,Trini,etc come from,because in NYC when I was young I thought they were Indian,but found out they were Guyanese,Trini,etc. So I was like WTF is a Guyanese so i got curious and searched and found out your forefathers are from India.
BengalG3 2 years ago
lols not all came from india some came from nepal, bengladesh and afghanistan
Lilzoify 2 years ago 8
Bangladesh was created in 1971 it was India back then. And I would say almost all came India,from every major port and from the coasts. Afghanistan and Nepal was not under British India,and they are landlocked countrys..
BengalG3 2 years ago 2
@Lilzoify Which was India at the time.
indoguju 1 year ago
@Lilzoify didn't know that
dipsettabird 1 year ago
@Lilzoify and south western persia
ProJIsLaM 1 year ago
@Lilzoify those countries never existed back then...
jamaiquino876 11 months ago
Punjabis were probably sent in 2 but my guess would b they were a rare addition judging from the music of guyana today. Guyanese music (if I may generalize) is bhojpuri style which is bihar, up area.
nworb 2 years ago 2
@nworb Not just Bihar, mostly Uttar Pradesh....especially in Trinidad.
soundcheck2k7 1 year ago
@soundcheck2k7 Yes that is y I said UP area (UP= uttar pradesh:P)
nworb 1 year ago
@BengalG3 where did you find this information? can you send it to me please. btw do you know if their was any ethnic tensions between the different indian cultures? im very interetsed in this
FullSwagSyceGame507 1 year ago
@FullSwagSyceGame507 what information? Yes there are always some tension between different Indian cultures and people. Tamils, Punjabis, Malayaliis, Assamese, etc, etc, etc. India is very diverse so it will have tension. I North East India you have Indians like Sikkimese, Assamese, etc, etc, etc that look like hybrid Chinese-Indians. Like Nepali people. There is a territory called andaman islands.These people look African and are related to the VERY old Africans that moved all over the world.
BengalG3 1 year ago
@FullSwagSyceGame507 India is a very diverse place. Diversity means there will be tension, but for the most part everyone is vibing. And everyone is proud of the Indian heritage.
BengalG3 1 year ago
@FullSwagSyceGame507 now a lot of nigerians and russians are moving to india bcoz of the economic upswing.
shubroto81 2 months ago
Bottom Line, before any and all of this the Arawaks owned much, if not all of the Caribbean. I'm talking pre Columbus or any other invader from across the seas who would eventually bring disease and death to such a peace loving tribe! What took place in the following centuries here in the USA was even viler!
MyRiseToHonor 2 years ago
BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE & CULTIURE .YOU COME FROM A ANCIENT CIVILISATION, LEARN ABOUT iNDIA , bETTER STILL VISIT INDIA , DONOT FEEL INFERIOR TO ANYONE , INDIA AND PEOPLE OF INDIA LOVE YOU AND WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU. KEEP YOUR LANGUAGE ALIVE SPEAK HINDI TAMIL TO YOUR CHLDREN
kohli666 2 years ago
They're proud of their origin. Good words of encouragement tho.
omoibile 2 years ago
alot of the pictures of the early east indians in carribeans look alot like tamil people
west indians today, alot of them look tamil and sometimes even confused with tamils
and alot of your last name are tamil names like veerasami, sooknanan, ragunadan.
but why do west indian people hate tamils?
BoxerMonkey 2 years ago 5
Dark ppl in India aren't restricted to just the south. About 70% of the Indians in the Caribbean originate from Uttar Pradesh, Bengal, Punjab, Haryana, etc. The rest come from south like Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala, etc. The term for a Tamil in the Caribbean is "Madrasi".
soundcheck2k7 2 years ago
was the term for tamils in caribean, that can be found offensive now
seeing how trinidad was a spanish/portuguese colony if i'm not mistaken, guyana a british, and surinam a dutch, the indians found in these islands on the most part would come from different parts of india
i know in surinam, there is a ethnic group of indians there called the Nathan's, who distinctively maintained alot of tamil heritage, linguistics, and names.
BoxerMonkey 2 years ago
but even the guyanese, and the trinidadians, are you sure it is that 70% of them come from northern india?
because it looks to me like 30% of them do
i have seen white skin indians from carribean to don't get me wrong, but my group of friends is come from all sorts of backgrounds, and the people who are not tamil and indian always at first find a hard time distinguishing tamils and west indians, they look similar in features, and i found alot of the names are similar too like ragunadan
BoxerMonkey 2 years ago
Trinidad was initially colonized by the spanish/portuguese, but then it became colonized by British and thats how the Indians got there. As I said before, dark Indians are not restricted to just South, however the darkest come from the south. If you go to the villages of Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Jharkand and Bengal, a lot of those Indians are a dark brown to dark. Their features are little different than the Southern Indians.
soundcheck2k7 2 years ago 3
The dominant Indian culture in the West Indies originates from UP/Bihar. Traditions like maticor, chowtal, phagwah, etc. All that is northeastern Indian village culture. Raghunanan can be traced from Bihar regions. The common language that most west Indians ancestors spoker was "Bhojpuri", a dialect of Hindi. However, there are strong Tamil communitiees in Trinidad and Guyana. Did you know there is a "Kaliamman" temple in Trinidad? Deities in there like Karuppusamy, Muniswaran, etc.
soundcheck2k7 2 years ago 2
are u for real? oh my god, i gotta go see that.
i wonder if they give doubles for prasadam lol
for worshipping karuppusamy and muniswaran, we use drums like urumi melam, or parai drumming. i wonder if they incorparate tassa drumming into there worship, do you know?
also i have read up on bhojpuri, it is the most common that was spoken among the indians in the americas. in brazil today, there exist a broken language that's mixed of bhojpuri and portuguese
BoxerMonkey 2 years ago
They don't use urumi, but they use the parai drums like thappu. Btw, tassa is also played in Tamil Nadu, but it usually accompanies thappu.
Thappu is a popular drum used by the madrasi origin indians in trinidad and guyana.
soundcheck2k7 2 years ago
wicked
hey want to see somethin interestin
type in "indian break dancing" and click the video with this old guy dancing, kind of funny, but you see a style of drumming with similar instruments used in tassa
also type in Vellala, it should be the first video, kongu nadu meet in karumathampatti, i think the drums in that look similar and sound very similar to the ones used in tassa music.
though w. indian drumming is very festive, also very nice, e. indian drumming is more war like
BoxerMonkey 2 years ago
The tassa drum is a common drum throughout India, it is played differently in different parts. The tassa beats in Trinidad are originally Indian based, but have improvised over time.
soundcheck2k7 2 years ago
@BoxerMonkey because they're jealous and ignorant!
Candyprincess971 1 year ago
@BoxerMonkey because of ignorance and jealousy
Candyprincess971 1 year ago
They were poor lol,now they think they are all that.These mofo's are worth shit white people are aweome.
coconutboy941 2 years ago
music at the end it's like "aray bhaiya zor se"....
WOG300 2 years ago 2
Dont forget your roots. Dont throw away your hertiage. Dont forget Bharat,Hindstan,INDIA!!!
JacobTheIndoAmerican 2 years ago
i like diz videos cuz im mixed wt bahamian n jamaican. im partial jamaican indian cuz my great grandma wuz a jamaican indian.
prinny305 2 years ago
lol, me too, but jamaican indian....
starcharm 2 years ago
Those people were poor, the British and the others had the opportunity to lure them in to false promises,and placed them in to different islands where they didnt have any means of communicating with there relatives or love ones.Therefore through the passage of time and harsh treatment they forgot about India, but India still loves them.Its only the new generation cant ignore the fact that they are being called Indians by there fellow citizens,has raised the curiosity to search there ancestors.
rajooraju 2 years ago 8
I enjoyed seeing these photo of the first indians of the west indies.i am afro trini,i feel a connect to them because my best friends were indian when i was growing up in T&T.I now reside in Qatar.love those photo
btanma 2 years ago 5
@btanma, they weren't the "first indians of the west indies". Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is the Arawaks were.
CheezInspector 1 year ago
@CheezInspector The Caribbean had many different indigenous peoples and groups! The Caribbean includes many islands! There were Tainos, Ciboneys, Caribs, and Arawaks and those of the South American Carobbean coastlines!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09, right, they do. I think my point was the Africans don't appear to be indigenous to the island. Was that my point? LOL I'm trying to keep track of a bunch of vids I responded to lately and am having trouble tracking my original comments O:
CheezInspector 1 year ago
@CheezInspector Huh? Please reread my comment and your original statement! I made no mention of Africans being indigenous to the islands! I was strictly naming the Indigenous Aborigines pplz of the islands! You said Arawaks were the only indigenous pplz so I informed you on the different indigenous groups of the Caribbean lol
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09, again, I'm trying to keep track of a bunch of vids I responded to lately and am having trouble tracking my original comments. Anyway, nothing you just said is in dispute. Yeah, I've always understood there are several groups of indigenous people in the Caribbean.
CheezInspector 1 year ago
Thank You for this video.
rees24gld 2 years ago
these ppl were poor in india and set out to make a living for themselves unlike north indians like me who were well off cuz of my ancestral riches british could'nt fuck with us. I enjoy seeing indians who are from different countries, it's interesting.
puncru 2 years ago 2
British could not fuck with you ! They just about exterminated you and plundered all your wealth and stole your land and put you on reservations. East Indians can thrive and prosper anywhere on this globe.
DIJV79 2 years ago 3
kind of amazing how much coolies physicaly have changed from our forefathers from india.
guyanesejoka 2 years ago 2