@HertaoNOLA Yeah, I suppose you're right. I take it back. Every system is different and quite often, within each system people interpret it different. I agree, you do what works for you and not necessarily how others may think it should be done.
I agree that most demonstrations of sumbrada are pretty shocking but I half agree with people about the stepping towards the strike. I practise sumbrada as a kind of "worst case senario" drill. You can't backaway because of a wall or something and you see the direction of the strike at the last moment. In this case you NEED to move towards you're opponent but away from the strike. The moving away from the strike creates slightly more time for you. If you see the strike coming then your way works
@2Jax: There are two versions of the drill in the video above. In one version you step into the swing attempting to stop it, and in another you step in but drop in such a way that you're evading. You definitely could add another where you're stepping away from the swing. But when we're talking about a real swing that takes a fraction of a second it doesn't much matter as long as your hand isn't in the wront place.
@HertaoNOLA I was also wondering about fake swings and punches from the opponents checking hand. Do you practise these? Also do you train to a stages where the sequence has gone and you have no idea which line you're opponent is going to attack from? thanks for the reply. It's hard to find someone on youtube that practises sumbrada and actually seems to take it seriously rather than it being fancy morris dancing
@2Jax: The first version of the drill in the video uses the checking hand, and I don't really practice that version anymore (don't practice either often). Now I practice the version where you're zoning deep and not using the checking hand, which makes it much more difficult for the opponent to punch you due to distance. I use sombrada as a warm up and for drilling, and spar to work random angles rather than doing that in sombrada...because no one stays at that range in reality.
@HertaoNOLA Quite. The sumbrada (is it supposed to be sombrada? not that it really matters) drill should always be tought so the student understands that it's unrealistic. But I find when sumbrada is done with no pattern and fakes are used very often plus you are both going as fast as you posssibly can, it makes your reaction speed go through the roof. Obviously you need to be fairly advanced at that stage. I think some of the sumbrada vids here on youtube are beginners just starting to learn.
@2Jax: Seems people spell it different ways. I have done the drill with no pattern, fakes, and strikes. I think if you're going to do it for any period of time that should definitely be done. I agree that it super charges your reaction speed, and that's one of the main reasons I really like drills like sumbrada. I'm not sure why 99% of what you see on the web is so "beginner" looking, however that's also the way I've seen it done/taught in seminars with top level instructors...ineffective.
@HertaoNOLA But then you could say: What makes an instructor top level? Is it titles like master? Is it how famous they are? Is it how much they charge? Or do their actions speak louder than all these? Anyway, another thing I like about the "moving away from the strike" principle is that if you see the strike coming and you move away from it you can get a "stop hit" stab to the face before you meet the strike. On the vid "GM Ron Saturno Modern Serrada... etc" at 0:25 he shows this.
@2Jax: The first version of the drill in the video uses the checking hand, and I don't really practice that version anymore (don't practice either often). Now I practice the version where you're zoning deep and not using the checking hand, which makes it much more difficult for the opponent to punch you due to distance/position. I use sombrada as a warm up and for drilling, and spar to work random angles rather than doing that in sombrada...because no one stays at that range in reality.
3 payong. distance from the attackers stick closer to the base same with the application.. the block never goes without the left hand, its yin and yang.. after the impact, flow depends on the left hand and the trajectory of the attack after deflection. you can go from top to bottom inside then shift outside or go up (palms up) and out and disarm. the thing is never wave away once your in after the impact or you will loose the control. a drill is a drill. no drill if you will not withdraw.
I am in the Inosanto line, and lots of people do this drill.
There's nothing new in the universe guys, and do you really have to bring other people and styles into this. just train, and leave other people out of it.
If you knew Dan Inosanto ,you would find a man that hasn't got a bad word to say about anyone, He calls himself Guro, not grandmaster, or supreme puba or what ever...
If this works fro you great ,but i assure you, no matter what you do someone will have an opinion.
@zencaper: I've trained with Dan Inosanto a couple of times, have great respect for him, and agree he hasn't got a bad word to say about anyone. But that has very little to do with the video above. I'm not interested in martial arts lineages or any such business. I'm interested in what works for self defense in reality. It's important IMO to point out what does not work (which many people are training) in addition to what does.
I like the video, and your points are valid. For anyone readings this, also remember that you're training with sticks, but the movements are for blade vs blade, many of these moves we would not evenbother doing against a stick for failure results in a lump on the head or red arm, but against the blade, failure is decapitation or laceration. Keep that in mind when practicing sumbrada, treat the stick like a blade.
So yes, you step "in" when you counter and check but you should step in away from the direction of the strike. Someone mentioned the bahala style... those guys have their own sequence/system of sumbrada and I can tell you from the point of fluidity, footwork and timing, they're doing it RIGHT... What you have demonstrated here is just the Inosanto derivative, but here's it's just done sloppily wrong... sorry.
@s3ksee: What I'm doing is not an "inosanto derivative", and I couldn't care less what the bahala na or the banana pancake style does. Again, what matters is that the techniques, footwork, and angles are effective in reality...which they are in my video. Obsession with this style and that style, and minute details which must be done particular ways are barriers to learning what really works.
Let me apologize in advance for saying this, but you're doing/teaching the sumbrada drill completely wrong. You're suppose to step AWAY from the incoming strikes, NOT into it. Just look at your position at 00:58 (inside deflection to his angle 1). You are completely vulnerable and cannot check his hand - you're suppose to be able to check his weapon hand and trap in every angle. You cannot do that if you're positioned wrong. I'm seeing other wrong things too.
@s3ksee: It may not be the particular version of the drill YOU practice (which is likely ineffective based on your comments), but both versions of blocking I demonstrate in the video above work in reality. The first version I show allows you to trap/capture the opponent's limb, and the second focuses on deep evasions. What you're seeing as "wrong" is based on your limited view of the drill.
To truly prove a theory it must be done at full speed with real weapons and no gear. you need the fear, pain and outcome. you should make a video that way so it is more clear. with helmets your checking hand is running into the opponents stick a lot. I would like to see your results of your hand running into his stick at full go with no protection (no gloves.) This is something I've experenced and would like to hear your input on that experience. other then that it is a good video.
@HarperDearMilo: Thanks. I value my health too much to make a video for you or anyone else (especially for free) where I get hit in the hand with a stick at full power! In sparring you will get hit all over the place. To spar full power with no gear is to guarantee permanent injury...which to me is the opposite of the goal of self defense training. I'm ok with safe training that's 90% realistic rather than unsafe training that's 100%. I think you can still see what works reasonably well.
That's one view point, I'm not saying it's a bad one. Power in range is different from someone's solid stroke, you can get power from your Punyo, but it isn't the same as the full long range isa han. In many systems they train the Sombrada to the hand becuase it's intended to smash the hand a second before you pass it out of the way. I play with Pekiti, Kali, Lameco, Moderno Largos, Caballero, and Illustrismo practitioners and our hands are not getting hit. I still value your viewpoint.
tekshow: I agree with you regarding power, but respectfully disagree on the checking hand IF you're saying it can be used in the way I say it cannot. I've just put up a video which you can find linked to on my last blog post, The Checking Hand, and also linked to from the link in the description of this video, that will hopefully clear this up.
That's what is beautiful about martial arts, is the variety of viewpoints. I have trained with several experts in FMA, and don't think I'm too shabby either. Checking the hand is an application that can work if done correctly. I respect your viewpoint, and I also like monitoring the arm. Although I'm not going to pull out an application that is working for me, in rattan based sparring.
There's similar drills in Pekiti, Villabrille, and Lameco Eskrima systems. Actually you CAN put the hand there in REALITY to all the naysayers. The hand can come in middle range. If the attacker can get off a full power swing, usually that means you're no longer in middle range, but long range. At that point the hand monitoring wouldn't work.
Tekshow: the "checking" hand ONLY works if it's in the correct place, as I demonstrate in the video. If it's in the position that most people use, your hand will get nailed even if you're at close range, and even more so for mid. At long range, by most definitions of long range, the hand cannot reach the opponent's hand anyway. Long range is stick can hit hand, but hand cannot touch hand. At mid OR close range, if you're hand does not STOP the opponent's arm and stick, it will get nailed.
really good, i like the evasive footwork and active body, that's how it should be. Now if someone could intergrate some of the relaxed power mechanics of CIMA (chinese internal) and FMA..that would be amazing :)
No offense taken just as you referenced in you responce.. you know nothing about Bahala na multi-style and if i may suggest the same way you choose to describe your hand position is a lesson of your own advice. You should practice when choosing words more wisely so it could be more constructive & not judgemental.You are still welcome to visit Stockton Ca USA. We're really friendlier than u might think as anyone who has been training Escrima for the last 30 years on the west coast will tell you.
Dexter: Take a look at the "sumbrada session" video, seconds 6, 8, and 10...for example. The checking hand position in each of those "blocks" will not work. If the "attacker" were to really swing hard, the "defender's" hand would be smashed. Try it if you don't believe me, but wear a glove! I don't know anything about Bahala na multi style, but I do know that your hand will be smashed if you put it in the way of an incoming stick. Not judging you...just the technique. :)
please see some other videos "mislas contras" "the flow" "more sumbrada" " the original style" "defondo grad08" to see how we play. what your seeing in "sumbrada session" more of a reaction, reflex, distance & timing flow. If you take the time to do some research you will see that we are known for our blocking skill and hitting hard. whether or not dexters hand would be smashed by a hard strike i really can't tell ya. i think his training would have taken over. see video "maestro dexter labonog"
We train for the truth and welcome anyone to the ESCOA full contact minimum gear tournament in June 2009. We beleive your best day could also be your worst"
Dexter: For me this is about health and self defense now. There is no way I'm going to risk my well being to compete in a "full contact minimum gear" stick fighting tournament. I've been injured in training enough for 10 people, and I'm not looking to add to that! Life is too short.
Bahala na multi-style are at a very high level fma training and once you reach this level you will understand that Sumbrada is not a fighting method and if you fight an full contact with minimum gear you would know this. To critique another system without understanding the complete objective of the lesson is being envious to something you do not understand. see 3rd post
I very well understand that sombrada is a training drill and not a fighting method. I'm not critiquing "bahala na" as I know nothing about it. I'm critiquing the video you referenced below. Really, I'm not envious to anything...just trying to give some good, free training advice to anyone who might appreciate it.
Im surprised there are Instructors advocating this kind of criticism because sumbrada is only a training drill it allows use of any range,technique,strikes & counters no matter what system u r from. Some practitioners are at a basic level in there system and theie understanding of this Filipino training method they fail to realize it is just a drill to develop reflex,timing,distance and to discover range of effectiveness. see next post
First, no offense intended. A training drill need not include techniques that do not work in reality. It's OK if they do of course, but for self defense (vs. fun) the hand positions and distance in the referenced video have serious problems that will get you hurt in reality...as I mentioned in my video above. Check it out. Reflex is fine if the reflexes are realistic. Same with timing, distance, etc. It's unnecessary to train unrealistic techniques for self defense.
I checked out the balaha na videos above, and they are exactly what sombrada should NOT be in my experience. The guys are at an unrealistic range (too far apart), not following through with most shots (stopping the swing and leaving the arm hanging in the air), and not using anything close to realistic speed/power. This is why I put the above video on YouTube...because anyone who trains realistically and watches the referenced videos will think sombrada is useless.
Thank you I will visit your website. Your video was very informative with an excellent description. This is exemplary status. I wish everyone produced videos like this - then, we could ALL learn from each other. LOVED IT! Please post more, Im hooked! LOL
Finally, its clearly explained with concise description. There are so many little body movements that many people miss in these drills. I love the sumbrada drill 5 count. Can you please give another description of each count in the strike sequence for us? So we can begin as if at the first step feeding and countering?
Glad you guys liked it. I've got plenty more training methods and techniques to upload, but no time at the moment. I'm trying to post to my blog as much as possible, and will add more videos here as time permits. Thanks!
This is very similar to what I've been saying about Sumbrada for these past few years: It's a very misunderstood drill that, once understood, can take your skills in FMA to the next level. Excellent work here!
Great video, and shown with great intention/emotion rather than a lot of videos you generally see anywhere!! Well done.
Latspt 2 months ago
What does Sumbrada mean? I notice it's a range or a drill, I don't know, can someone explain that for me, thank you.
Darkson85 6 months ago
@HertaoNOLA Yeah, I suppose you're right. I take it back. Every system is different and quite often, within each system people interpret it different. I agree, you do what works for you and not necessarily how others may think it should be done.
s3ksee 11 months ago
I agree that most demonstrations of sumbrada are pretty shocking but I half agree with people about the stepping towards the strike. I practise sumbrada as a kind of "worst case senario" drill. You can't backaway because of a wall or something and you see the direction of the strike at the last moment. In this case you NEED to move towards you're opponent but away from the strike. The moving away from the strike creates slightly more time for you. If you see the strike coming then your way works
2Jax 11 months ago
@2Jax: There are two versions of the drill in the video above. In one version you step into the swing attempting to stop it, and in another you step in but drop in such a way that you're evading. You definitely could add another where you're stepping away from the swing. But when we're talking about a real swing that takes a fraction of a second it doesn't much matter as long as your hand isn't in the wront place.
HertaoNOLA 11 months ago
@HertaoNOLA I was also wondering about fake swings and punches from the opponents checking hand. Do you practise these? Also do you train to a stages where the sequence has gone and you have no idea which line you're opponent is going to attack from? thanks for the reply. It's hard to find someone on youtube that practises sumbrada and actually seems to take it seriously rather than it being fancy morris dancing
2Jax 11 months ago
@2Jax: The first version of the drill in the video uses the checking hand, and I don't really practice that version anymore (don't practice either often). Now I practice the version where you're zoning deep and not using the checking hand, which makes it much more difficult for the opponent to punch you due to distance. I use sombrada as a warm up and for drilling, and spar to work random angles rather than doing that in sombrada...because no one stays at that range in reality.
HertaoNOLA 11 months ago
...we do use punches when sparring though, of course, along with anything else.
HertaoNOLA 11 months ago
@HertaoNOLA Quite. The sumbrada (is it supposed to be sombrada? not that it really matters) drill should always be tought so the student understands that it's unrealistic. But I find when sumbrada is done with no pattern and fakes are used very often plus you are both going as fast as you posssibly can, it makes your reaction speed go through the roof. Obviously you need to be fairly advanced at that stage. I think some of the sumbrada vids here on youtube are beginners just starting to learn.
2Jax 11 months ago
@2Jax: Seems people spell it different ways. I have done the drill with no pattern, fakes, and strikes. I think if you're going to do it for any period of time that should definitely be done. I agree that it super charges your reaction speed, and that's one of the main reasons I really like drills like sumbrada. I'm not sure why 99% of what you see on the web is so "beginner" looking, however that's also the way I've seen it done/taught in seminars with top level instructors...ineffective.
HertaoNOLA 11 months ago
@HertaoNOLA But then you could say: What makes an instructor top level? Is it titles like master? Is it how famous they are? Is it how much they charge? Or do their actions speak louder than all these? Anyway, another thing I like about the "moving away from the strike" principle is that if you see the strike coming and you move away from it you can get a "stop hit" stab to the face before you meet the strike. On the vid "GM Ron Saturno Modern Serrada... etc" at 0:25 he shows this.
2Jax 11 months ago
@2Jax: The first version of the drill in the video uses the checking hand, and I don't really practice that version anymore (don't practice either often). Now I practice the version where you're zoning deep and not using the checking hand, which makes it much more difficult for the opponent to punch you due to distance/position. I use sombrada as a warm up and for drilling, and spar to work random angles rather than doing that in sombrada...because no one stays at that range in reality.
HertaoNOLA 11 months ago
3 payong. distance from the attackers stick closer to the base same with the application.. the block never goes without the left hand, its yin and yang.. after the impact, flow depends on the left hand and the trajectory of the attack after deflection. you can go from top to bottom inside then shift outside or go up (palms up) and out and disarm. the thing is never wave away once your in after the impact or you will loose the control. a drill is a drill. no drill if you will not withdraw.
mrMP40sw 1 year ago
I am in the Inosanto line, and lots of people do this drill.
There's nothing new in the universe guys, and do you really have to bring other people and styles into this. just train, and leave other people out of it.
If you knew Dan Inosanto ,you would find a man that hasn't got a bad word to say about anyone, He calls himself Guro, not grandmaster, or supreme puba or what ever...
If this works fro you great ,but i assure you, no matter what you do someone will have an opinion.
zencaper 1 year ago
@zencaper: I've trained with Dan Inosanto a couple of times, have great respect for him, and agree he hasn't got a bad word to say about anyone. But that has very little to do with the video above. I'm not interested in martial arts lineages or any such business. I'm interested in what works for self defense in reality. It's important IMO to point out what does not work (which many people are training) in addition to what does.
HertaoNOLA 1 year ago
I like the video, and your points are valid. For anyone readings this, also remember that you're training with sticks, but the movements are for blade vs blade, many of these moves we would not evenbother doing against a stick for failure results in a lump on the head or red arm, but against the blade, failure is decapitation or laceration. Keep that in mind when practicing sumbrada, treat the stick like a blade.
dirtyfighter34 1 year ago
So yes, you step "in" when you counter and check but you should step in away from the direction of the strike. Someone mentioned the bahala style... those guys have their own sequence/system of sumbrada and I can tell you from the point of fluidity, footwork and timing, they're doing it RIGHT... What you have demonstrated here is just the Inosanto derivative, but here's it's just done sloppily wrong... sorry.
s3ksee 1 year ago
@s3ksee: What I'm doing is not an "inosanto derivative", and I couldn't care less what the bahala na or the banana pancake style does. Again, what matters is that the techniques, footwork, and angles are effective in reality...which they are in my video. Obsession with this style and that style, and minute details which must be done particular ways are barriers to learning what really works.
HertaoNOLA 1 year ago
Let me apologize in advance for saying this, but you're doing/teaching the sumbrada drill completely wrong. You're suppose to step AWAY from the incoming strikes, NOT into it. Just look at your position at 00:58 (inside deflection to his angle 1). You are completely vulnerable and cannot check his hand - you're suppose to be able to check his weapon hand and trap in every angle. You cannot do that if you're positioned wrong. I'm seeing other wrong things too.
s3ksee 1 year ago
@s3ksee: It may not be the particular version of the drill YOU practice (which is likely ineffective based on your comments), but both versions of blocking I demonstrate in the video above work in reality. The first version I show allows you to trap/capture the opponent's limb, and the second focuses on deep evasions. What you're seeing as "wrong" is based on your limited view of the drill.
HertaoNOLA 1 year ago
@s3ksee: You can step in or away, depending on what you're trying to accomplish. There are no rules as long as what you're doing works.
HertaoNOLA 11 months ago
outstanding video. thank you for taking the time to do this.
MrBrasscheck 1 year ago
To truly prove a theory it must be done at full speed with real weapons and no gear. you need the fear, pain and outcome. you should make a video that way so it is more clear. with helmets your checking hand is running into the opponents stick a lot. I would like to see your results of your hand running into his stick at full go with no protection (no gloves.) This is something I've experenced and would like to hear your input on that experience. other then that it is a good video.
HarperDearMilo 2 years ago
@HarperDearMilo: Thanks. I value my health too much to make a video for you or anyone else (especially for free) where I get hit in the hand with a stick at full power! In sparring you will get hit all over the place. To spar full power with no gear is to guarantee permanent injury...which to me is the opposite of the goal of self defense training. I'm ok with safe training that's 90% realistic rather than unsafe training that's 100%. I think you can still see what works reasonably well.
HertaoNOLA 2 years ago
@HertaoNOLA well said
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 year ago
That's one view point, I'm not saying it's a bad one. Power in range is different from someone's solid stroke, you can get power from your Punyo, but it isn't the same as the full long range isa han. In many systems they train the Sombrada to the hand becuase it's intended to smash the hand a second before you pass it out of the way. I play with Pekiti, Kali, Lameco, Moderno Largos, Caballero, and Illustrismo practitioners and our hands are not getting hit. I still value your viewpoint.
tekshow 2 years ago
tekshow: I agree with you regarding power, but respectfully disagree on the checking hand IF you're saying it can be used in the way I say it cannot. I've just put up a video which you can find linked to on my last blog post, The Checking Hand, and also linked to from the link in the description of this video, that will hopefully clear this up.
HertaoNOLA 2 years ago
That's what is beautiful about martial arts, is the variety of viewpoints. I have trained with several experts in FMA, and don't think I'm too shabby either. Checking the hand is an application that can work if done correctly. I respect your viewpoint, and I also like monitoring the arm. Although I'm not going to pull out an application that is working for me, in rattan based sparring.
tekshow 2 years ago
Is this drill from pekiti tirsia too?
Sheik06 3 years ago
There's similar drills in Pekiti, Villabrille, and Lameco Eskrima systems. Actually you CAN put the hand there in REALITY to all the naysayers. The hand can come in middle range. If the attacker can get off a full power swing, usually that means you're no longer in middle range, but long range. At that point the hand monitoring wouldn't work.
tekshow 2 years ago
Tekshow: the "checking" hand ONLY works if it's in the correct place, as I demonstrate in the video. If it's in the position that most people use, your hand will get nailed even if you're at close range, and even more so for mid. At long range, by most definitions of long range, the hand cannot reach the opponent's hand anyway. Long range is stick can hit hand, but hand cannot touch hand. At mid OR close range, if you're hand does not STOP the opponent's arm and stick, it will get nailed.
HertaoNOLA 2 years ago
...and in Pekiti, practitioners train to get off full power swings at VERY close range...right in front of their nose in fact.
HertaoNOLA 2 years ago
Sheik06: No, it's not. But they do have a similar drill.
HertaoNOLA 2 years ago
really good, i like the evasive footwork and active body, that's how it should be. Now if someone could intergrate some of the relaxed power mechanics of CIMA (chinese internal) and FMA..that would be amazing :)
cloud0123 3 years ago
enjoyed that, well explained!
bigwoklun 3 years ago
No offense taken just as you referenced in you responce.. you know nothing about Bahala na multi-style and if i may suggest the same way you choose to describe your hand position is a lesson of your own advice. You should practice when choosing words more wisely so it could be more constructive & not judgemental.You are still welcome to visit Stockton Ca USA. We're really friendlier than u might think as anyone who has been training Escrima for the last 30 years on the west coast will tell you.
largomano54 3 years ago
Dexter: Take a look at the "sumbrada session" video, seconds 6, 8, and 10...for example. The checking hand position in each of those "blocks" will not work. If the "attacker" were to really swing hard, the "defender's" hand would be smashed. Try it if you don't believe me, but wear a glove! I don't know anything about Bahala na multi style, but I do know that your hand will be smashed if you put it in the way of an incoming stick. Not judging you...just the technique. :)
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
please see some other videos "mislas contras" "the flow" "more sumbrada" " the original style" "defondo grad08" to see how we play. what your seeing in "sumbrada session" more of a reaction, reflex, distance & timing flow. If you take the time to do some research you will see that we are known for our blocking skill and hitting hard. whether or not dexters hand would be smashed by a hard strike i really can't tell ya. i think his training would have taken over. see video "maestro dexter labonog"
largomano54 3 years ago
We train for the truth and welcome anyone to the ESCOA full contact minimum gear tournament in June 2009. We beleive your best day could also be your worst"
Maestro Dexter Labonog
Bahala Na Multi-style Escrima
Stockton, Ca.
largomano54 3 years ago
Dexter: For me this is about health and self defense now. There is no way I'm going to risk my well being to compete in a "full contact minimum gear" stick fighting tournament. I've been injured in training enough for 10 people, and I'm not looking to add to that! Life is too short.
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
Bahala na multi-style are at a very high level fma training and once you reach this level you will understand that Sumbrada is not a fighting method and if you fight an full contact with minimum gear you would know this. To critique another system without understanding the complete objective of the lesson is being envious to something you do not understand. see 3rd post
largomano54 3 years ago
I very well understand that sombrada is a training drill and not a fighting method. I'm not critiquing "bahala na" as I know nothing about it. I'm critiquing the video you referenced below. Really, I'm not envious to anything...just trying to give some good, free training advice to anyone who might appreciate it.
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
Qoute fr. Dexter Labonog 3 parts
Im surprised there are Instructors advocating this kind of criticism because sumbrada is only a training drill it allows use of any range,technique,strikes & counters no matter what system u r from. Some practitioners are at a basic level in there system and theie understanding of this Filipino training method they fail to realize it is just a drill to develop reflex,timing,distance and to discover range of effectiveness. see next post
largomano54 3 years ago
First, no offense intended. A training drill need not include techniques that do not work in reality. It's OK if they do of course, but for self defense (vs. fun) the hand positions and distance in the referenced video have serious problems that will get you hurt in reality...as I mentioned in my video above. Check it out. Reflex is fine if the reflexes are realistic. Same with timing, distance, etc. It's unnecessary to train unrealistic techniques for self defense.
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
nice video
Please check out
bahala na multi-style escrima
"sumbrada session" or "more sombrada" for another version.
tj stockton ca
largomano54 3 years ago
I checked out the balaha na videos above, and they are exactly what sombrada should NOT be in my experience. The guys are at an unrealistic range (too far apart), not following through with most shots (stopping the swing and leaving the arm hanging in the air), and not using anything close to realistic speed/power. This is why I put the above video on YouTube...because anyone who trains realistically and watches the referenced videos will think sombrada is useless.
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
Mabuhay!
jedoza 3 years ago
Thank you I will visit your website. Your video was very informative with an excellent description. This is exemplary status. I wish everyone produced videos like this - then, we could ALL learn from each other. LOVED IT! Please post more, Im hooked! LOL
STUDENTOFARNIS 3 years ago
Finally, its clearly explained with concise description. There are so many little body movements that many people miss in these drills. I love the sumbrada drill 5 count. Can you please give another description of each count in the strike sequence for us? So we can begin as if at the first step feeding and countering?
STUDENTOFARNIS 3 years ago
You can find a detailed description with still images on my website. Let me know if you have any questions.
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
Loved it!!!
MoodyGroove 3 years ago
outstanding. excellent information. The shoe part was total gravy! =)
nerdking81 3 years ago
Glad you guys liked it. I've got plenty more training methods and techniques to upload, but no time at the moment. I'm trying to post to my blog as much as possible, and will add more videos here as time permits. Thanks!
HertaoNOLA 3 years ago
This is very similar to what I've been saying about Sumbrada for these past few years: It's a very misunderstood drill that, once understood, can take your skills in FMA to the next level. Excellent work here!
-Mike Pana
BayaniWarriorStudies 3 years ago
very interesting view on this well known drill!
drklight2000 3 years ago