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  • This is the only situation on 9/11 that I seriously question. Only because ... if the passenger plane had to be shot down (stopped from reaching a target) the government would not want to admit to it, even if it was necessary.

  • first of al what's the shortest distance between two points? A straight line. Is the road route taken by someone driving in a car a straight line? no...

  • Blue, you really need to look at the Reno video again.. there is LOTS of debris all over the place, just the momentum sent it scattering on up the pavement. Titanium does not 'vaporize' on impact.. sorry to tell you.

  • show me one autopsy report from flight 93!

  • This uploader is a moron. Planes usually crash at low speed on takeoff/landing. When they hit the ground at 580MPH straight in, they vaporize & so do the people. Look up the "Valuejet" crash in Fla. SAME THING HAPPENED. Look at the video of the P-51 crash at the Reno Air Races. NOTHING LEFT, including the pilot you MORONS!

    Get a fucking life you freaks!

  • dumb sheeple who believe the plane just "happened" to hit an old mining shaft need to examine their heads.

  • Okay, so I guess the giant fucking whole in the god damn ground, and the charred jet pieces around that were all fake, and weren't there at all? You know what is wrong with this world? They are to stupid to realise the REAL truth. 9/11 wasn't an inside job. It was done by FUKCING TERRORISTS. Don't belive so? Fuck off, and go continue to believe in 2012, which won't happen either.

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  • @psufan38 "This "expert" at 0:47"

    That so-called expert is that fat queer Alex Jones, who makes his living pimping dozens of different conspiracy theories to delusional teenagers.

    He's also been busted at least twice for soliciting sex with men in public restrooms in Austin TX & Houston.

    He also never had a science course in his life, and has absolutely NO credentials to even have an opinion about the debris field of a plane crash.

    Which is why his statement is complete bullshit.

  • WOW well done you guys well done

  • This "expert" at 0:47 can not be called accordingly so, "there's no more than a 1 mile (long) debris field around plane crashes" Right because someone has already tested how large the debris field would be for a 757 crashed by non pilots at speeds around 500 mph, the guy is an idiot.

  • @psufan38 "This "expert" at 0:47"

    That so-called expert is that fat queer Alex Jones, who makes his living pimping dozens of different conspiracy theories to delusional teenagers.

    He's also been busted at least twice for soliciting sex with men in public restrooms in Austin TX & Houston.

    He also never had a science course in his life, and has absolutely NO credentials to even have an opinion about the debris field of a plane crash.

    Which is why his statement is complete bullshit.

  • the only theory I have never heard is,,,,,,,,,,,,,, all of the passengers were plucked out of the plane just like in the kris kristofferson movie Millennium,,,, 

  • the way i see it, if the plane was a threat to a high populated area, shooting it down in a rural area is justified.and the reason there wasa lus 8 debris field was because the plane probably went into a nose dive, and commercial airliners are not structurally capable of doing that, therefore the plane began to break apart. DUH!

  • @tjlay96 "if the plane was a threat"

    The plane was an obvious threat, which makes it all the more absurd to claim it was shot down by the government who then DENIED the act -- something that everyone would have applauded them for.

    Then of course you have the difficult fact that there were no armed interceptors that could have been anywhere near Shanksville, even if they had known the location of the plane.

    There were only 7 sites with hot jets that day, which Truthies try to ignore.

  • @BlazingFerret well do you really believe everything that comes out of the governments mouth, and everything that doesnt? there is such thing as TOP SECRET. i know it sounds crazy but there has to be some secrets the government is keeping from us. roswell, area 51, why cant they just say what they are testing at area 51.they are keeping secrets even if its NOT area 51 or jfk, or roswell . or united 93.

  • @tjlay96 "do you really believe everything that comes out of the governments mouth"

    No, but their reliability is way higher than the lying fucks that run the Truthie Cult. Alex Jones hasn't said one truthful thing in recent history, and isn't likely to as long as he can make a buck from ignorant suckers.

  • @tjlay96 "why cant they just say what they are testing at area 51"

    Why should they, moron? Why should we broadcast every goddamned thing we have, or are working on, to every shitbag dictarorship in the world, like Iran, North Korea, or pissants like you -- who have no business knowing jack shit?

  • @blueshark69  If i was president, there would be no god damn secrets. And like we really have some powerful "secret weapon". if we did we would have already used it prick

  • @blueshark69 If i was president, there would be no god damn secrets. And like we really have some powerful "secret weapon". if we did we would have already used it prick

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  • "these pathetic teenage twats, this is the only entertainment they have, except for masturbating themselves into a coma every night to Korean ass-porn"

    That pretty sell describes the Konspiracy Kult.

    Their usual sex partner either was bought at a farm, or has an air inflation valve on her back.

    Sad little kids.

  • @BlazingFerret HAHA!!! Couldn't have said it better myself! :D

  • Try explaining this to the families of the people on flight 93!!! EVERY DISASTER THAT DAY WAS REAL!

  • 9/11 is all bullshit!

  • R.I.P to all the people who lost their lived on 9/11. After ten years America still stands strong. That just proves how lucky we all are to have such a strong, independent country !

  • The plane was shot down as shown in the photo

  • Unlike normal plane crashes, this one was aimed directly at the ground in full throttle. It was a direct hit, not a "scrape" crash. It probably disintegrated upon impact.

  • Did You Conspiracy Theory Idiots Forget That The Planes Tanks Were FULL Of Fuel??? And The WHOLE Point Of Hijacking & Crashing The Plane, All 4 Of Them, Was To Do It With The Planes Tanks Full. To Create As Much Of A Boom And Devastation As Possible. I Guess You Dummies Also Forgot That The Hero's On That Flight We're Fighting They're Way Into The Cockpit. When They Crashed, They Burned. Ever Burn Anything Before?? Have You Tried It With Fuel?? How Much Is Left?? Do Better Research.....Idiots.

  • @laMamiDulce You should probably do your research on previous more deadly plane crashes in aviation history. This plane crash is unprecedented as being the ONLY crash with no remnents of the plane left. You can believe your government blindly if you want but real Americans question what is going on and demand change.

  • @kymills "no remnents of the plane left"

    And you believe this obvious nonsense just because some wacky website told you so? Jesus Effing Christ, kid -- you think those hundreds of local volunteers that were picking up body parts & plane pieces for months were LYING?

    Of course, you never bothered to check anything, did you?

    Ignorant teenage twat.

  • He is only repeating what he was told.

    Since then the truth is out.

    93 crashed.

    

  • we have two examples to compare with,first panam crash over lockerbe,although there was an inside explosion and the debris scattered over large area ,still there were large parts of the aircraft recovered later on .the second example is the south korean airliner which was shot down by the russians in the early eightees there was very little debris recovered. flight 93 strongly resembel the korean airliner iincident.

  • @alhadabai

    Another degenerate Moslem cocksucker, playing shill for the pig-loving bastards who drove the planes.

    It's amazing how many of these Truthie Cult assholes worship the Pedophile Prophet, who fucked little 6-yr-old girls.

    Mostly because adult women laugh at those tiny Moslem dicks.

  • we have two examples to compare,first panam crash over lockerbe,although there was an inside explosion and the debris scattered over large area ,still there were large parts of the aircraft recovered later on .the second example is the south korean airliner which was shot down by the russians in the early eightees there was very little debris recovered. flight 93 strongly resembel the korean airliner iincident.

  • That was delta flight you fuck. stop with the conspiracy shit. They thought Delta was UA93, and told Delta to land. When they landed they discovered that they still needed to find UA93, which was nearing Shanksville fast. You're a silly ass.

  • Shot down. Yes by the terrorists, not literally shot from a gun etc. Respect 9/11 rather than turning it into entertainment

  • We all know deep down inside what happened over the field. A safe location was picked and the order was given.

  • ,,but maybe ol' rummy was lying about lying?,

    it's called an 'admission'...duh, 91InsideJob...

  • Good thing the DOJ and FBI finally got enough pressure and concrete evidence to re-open this case. It took 10 years. I guess the felon trolls are headed back to unemployment line in the middle of a depression.

  • @triphip2 (continued) I bet those people will just shut the door in our face or hang up on your if you tried to prove them otherwise. That's being insensitive, incredibly rude, and downright disrespectful. Let them be so they can live their lives peacefully. Have a nice day :)

  • @triphip2 pffffft baaaahahahahaha! Ya ok whatever you say lol! I suppose that fight between the passengers and terrorists on board didn't happen either and THEN crashes into the ground? There was even a phone call about it too! Oh wait that was fake too? Planes can cause holes in the ground too, even if their not a perfect circle.

  • There was a plane and was shot down and the pilot is currently in a prison in Florida

  • You know.....I don't need to watch this video, because I already know it's complete bullshit and utterly and COMPLETELY insensitive! Yes it did crash in PA! Shame on this who don't think otherwise! Tell that to those who lost loved ones on this plane! Yea I thought so!

  • @LunatikTokyo I WILL tell those unfortunate people the TRUTH. That plane was shot down, it did not crash in shankesville. That crater was formed by a bomb. It's physcial reality. Those people deserve the truth, and that's what we are trying to give them!

  • @triphip2 "That plane was shot down"

    Sure, and the hundreds of professional investigators either don't know the difference between crash & explosive damage ... or they're all in on a giant conspiracy, too.

    Keep drinking that Konspiracy Kool-Ade.

  • @LunatikTokyo If you ask me it's the people that DON'T want to ask questions, and DON'T want real answers instead of a washed up story that are insensative. Being ignorant doesn't give a person true resolution. Those families, and all families that lost lives from 9/11 and events there after (10s of thousands) deserve the truth!!

  • @triphip2 "Those families... deserve the truth"

    Fuck yourself, moron. If there are any family members in your stupid little cult, that think the towers were demo'd & the government did it, they've been hiding real well for ten years.

    Most family members would tear you cocksuckers to pieces if you spread your bullshit to them.

  • For all the people who lack the ability to type without "Fuks" and name calling- please explain where are the bodies, luggage and plane wreckage? I am not a C.T. But I have not heard a reasonable explanation for the lack of wreckage.

  • @pookiebear364 and you never will.... They are all so brain washed that no matter what you show then they are going to keep the lie alive...WHY? I have no idea... I think they are so scared of the boogie man it makes them sleep better if the have some one too blame and the idea they can't trust the right wing trash they put in office makes them wet the bed.

  • @pookiebear364 "where are the bodies, luggage and plane wreckage? "

    Maybe if you bothered to read the eyewitness accounts of the people from Shanksville, including the coroner and mayor, you wouldn't be so confused. They sure as shit had no doubt where the bodies, luggage and plane wreckage were, since hundreds of local volunteers were picking up the pieces for months.

  • you know, somehow I knew, when I click on this video, I would see arguing comments.

  • What the fuck is that at 3:40 someone answer me that and why the fuk does it have a fucking face on it

  • well it doesn't take a genius to figure out that your search engine saying that this lake was something like 8 miles away, was a calculated distance for driving on a road that isnt a straight shot from the crash site. you have turns in the road, and it adds extra distance. Now how many of you guys actually did the real measuring from point A: the crash location to point b: the indian lake at the location, and not following a winding road? Now get out of your mommy's basement and get a life.

  • @Alleyoops1981 There's a video of 93 crash site where the reporter mentions the "6.9" miles to the lake, so to prove it she gets in her car and drives to the lake!! And the odometer reads 6.9 miles and she goes off like its proof that the debris had to travel 6.9 miles to reach the lake!!! WTF!! Since when does aircraft debris drive itself to the lake? Did it catch a cab? Hitch a ride? This is how rumors and misinformation gets started, Its only 1.2 miles in a straight line to the lake.

  • @lcspies

    well 1.2 miles isnt very far.  WE had a plane crash locally here a few years ago and there was debris found 2 miles away. as hard as that plane hit the ground the force of the impact would cuase shit to fly everywhere. non the less that plane was drove into the ground, rather than into the capital or the white house. and the other question begs if there was truth to this then why aren't all these people who cracked this thing getting knocked of by men in black?

  • @Alleyoops1981 Correct...1.2 miles is a short distance. When G-forces and impacts like this, plane parts can be miles and miles away.

  • @lcspies Well I am glad that there is someone on here who agree's with me. I find these conspiracy video inaccurate, and most have been majorly photo shopped to make their so called "evidence" for their retarded theories. Basically a bunch of single nerds who still live in theri mothers basement who need to get a life.

  • @Alleyoops1981 of course...otherwise they have no argument...:)

  • @lcspies

    exactly.

  • wait a second...did rumsfeld say "shot down the plane over pennsylvania?" he did, didnt he?

    HE SAID IT! HE MUST BE A CONPRIRACY THEORIST!!!

    RUMSFELD IS A TWOOFY!!! THAT BASTARD!!!

  • I can't believe there are people thatstill believe the gubberments official story inregards to these false flag attacks..Hey dumbshits, 911 was an inside job PERIOD!!! It's so in your face obvious,,,you have to be a complete buffoon to not understand basic laws of physics..if you throw a rocak at a house window..you break the window, you do NOT bring the whole house down with it..

  • @unoitaliano "you have to be a complete buffoon to not understand basic laws of physics"

    Yeah, right. Every published study by structural engineers -- dozens of them -- say the same thing: that plane impacts and unfightable fires brought down the towers, period. No demolition, no UFO death rays.

    And some illiterate wop with a 10th grade education thinks he knows better.

    Go back to selling your sister, Guido, and leave physics for the adults.

  • @unoitaliano "maybe you should go read some"

    Embarrassed because you didn't know about any of those published, peer-reviewed studies by dozens of structural engineers? Or is it just that you couldn't understand the big words & math?

    So far none of the mindless fools in the Truther cult have been able to publish a rebuttal to any of them.

  • @MsgtSpook No, I'm embarrassed for you!! for being able to compose a sentence and spell correctly, you're still a stupid fuck. The evidence and coincedences far outweigh the " fixed" studies you refer to. You are either blind, or simply a stupid fuck, the more I hear back from you, the more I realize it's both. Go get a job, I'm sure with all the edumacation you have, you can pick up a job washing dishes somewhere. You better not be late on your student loan payments either. They will thro U I J

  • @unoitaliano "the " fixed" studies you refer to"

    So all those engineers, all over the world, are part of some giant conspiracy? And since no other engineers disputed their basic findings in any subsequent issues of the engineering journals, are they all in on it, too?

    That's a million or so, just in structural and civil engineering. Mighty big conspiracy, I'd say.

    So why is it that none of the Truthy Cult "experts" can manage to get anything published to support your adolescent delusions?

  • @MsgtSpook

    I see that the wop can't actually address any of your points, so he just whines & babbles like a little girl with her tampon on fire.

  • Your right the birdgang20.. also at the pentagon a gas station next to it had a video of what really hit the pentagon and the government came over to the gas station and snached the video from them there was no airplaine debree there either or wing damage just a small hole.. a cruise missle

  • @allenphillyeagles "no airplaine debree there either or wing damage"

    How come normal white people can find lots of photos of airplane debris, all verified by AerospaceWeb as being from a Boeing 757 -- but you stupid Truthie Cult morons can't?

    Cruise missiles, by the way, explode and blow shit OUTWARD ... but at the Pentagon 100' of structural columns on the first floor, and inside, were knocked INWARD -- just as if something large & wide had hit it.

    Photo: TinyUrl (dot) com/3yu2hz

  • @BlazingFerret "How come normal white people can find lots of photos of airplane debris, all verified by AerospaceWeb"

    Because there are no normal people in the Truther Cult, just a pack of not-very-educated teenagers who are too dumb to find anything themselves, so they swallow everything they're fed by Loose Change, PrisonPlanet, Zeitgeist, etc

  • @BlazingFerret "missiles explode and blow shit OUTWARD ... but at the Pentagon 100' of structural columns on the first floor, and inside, were knocked INWARD"

    You're assuming that Guido and these other twats can actually handle complex comcepts, like IN and OUT without having mommy draw them a diagram.

  • @blueshark69

    Actually I doubt whether these Truthie faggots can wipe their asses without checking with Alex Jones first.

    Most of them couldn't figure out Google without their mother's help.

  • @blueshark69

    All well and good except that you left out the part about how missiles armed with shaped charge payloads are designed to do just the very opposite, direct the full force of the round into the smallest possible area resulting in an INWARD explosion

  • @allenphillyeagles "We could really prove this by our satelites"

    At least six other countries have hi-rez satellite photography also. So now you think countries like China, Russia, Japan & North Korea are part of this silly conspiracy, too?

    Grow up, kid.

  • LMAO....are you stupid? They used google maps to get the distance to the lake. Debris doesnt follow the road, its going to go in a straight line to the lake, which is just over a mile.

  • 3:06 is that not a face on the map??????????

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  • But remember, the enemy will not go down without a fight, and so...we must take it to them...in any and every way we can... Share the truth and work from the inside out. Begin with family and close friends. Be patient with them, help guild them to understanding the truth. it takes time because of all the deception the Government has heaped on the American people...

  • @Realitycleans "the enemy will not go down without a fight, and so...we must take it to them"

    Jesus F. Christ ... another teenage gamer who hallucinates about saving the universe from scary monsters.

  • Like children with special needs, we need to do our best to remain patient and try to use small words...so they can understand...most just can't help it. They fear what they cannot understand. The rest of us, however, must do all we can to see to it that our country gets back to WE THE PEOPLE.

  • Look. Some people just don't posses brains capable of critical thinking. That's the challenge. But we who do, and ask questions about things (like what our Government tells us), need to be resolute and unmovable in our pursuit of TRUTH.

  • Lets play a game!

    Take yer pick fellows.

    1) 4 planes flew on 9\11 (official story)

    2) 2 planes on 9\11 (official conspiracy theory)

    3) 0 planes,

    1=unscientific, 2=agents of deception, 3=truth

    You are out of your mind to think that only 2 planes flew on 9\11 and refusing to research the 2 missing planes. What about the 2 missing planes?

    NO planes flew on 9\11 and you will see it when studing 9\11 all over again.

  • @zumobster when was your last consult with your psychiatrist ?

  • @zumobster : saying "no plane hit the WTC" proves your psychotic paranoid "brain" . You are just a dement , go to consult, quickly !!!

  • @zumobster : I don't care about your paranoids links . You are a dement, saying "no plane hit the WTC" proves your psychotic paranoid "brain" .I can do nothing for you. I am not a psy !!

  • @laminarwing

    look who's paranoid

  • @laminarwing "saying "no plane hit the WTC" proves your psychotic paranoid "brain"

    At the University of Virginia the Psych Dept uses Youtube posts in their introduction to Abnormal Psychology classes, to demonstrate paranoia & the other mental problems displayed by conspiracy freaks.

    So at least they serve a useful purpose, aside from just their humor value.

  • @MsgtSpook : really ? well, that's a good new and in fact not surprising :)

    I'm glad to see a little bit intelligence in this area of stupidity and ignorance .

  • we are in serious trouble.. wake up fools.. americans are painted as the enemy.. wake up folks

  • @adam3176 Yes, treasonous Alqaeda supporting 911 kooks paint we normal americans an enemies.

    911 thurth has declared itself an enemy of the US. I take their word for it.

  • Were is the lost planes ?

  • Well hell you guys better call up the NTSB and tell them the flight data recorder they have (and which any of you twits can go and read all its parameters on their FOI webpage) is the wrong one.

    Oh.. and you might want to call up Wally Miller the county coroner and tell him the autopsies he did in Shanksville were all the wrong people.

    Do you tin foil hat wearing nuts really believe this crap you research and post? Is it time for another whitehouse lawn meeting with the other 20 in "TM"?

  • @roquefortfiles uh, you might want to research anything you say about Coroner Wally Miller. He actually said, "i quit being a coroner after about 20 minutes because there were no bodies". He also said "to this day, i have not seen one drop of blood, not one drop". seriously. look it up. do we believe this crap we research and post? do you believe mainstream media?

  • @324Chas LOL!!! I might say the same thing to you dude!! Watched a documentary last night and they interviewed Miller. He spoke about this oft quoted line.. that is so cherry picked and used to push nonsense agendas like that of that total fucking idiot Dylan Avery.  What he meant was that there was no question what the cause of death was.. Everyone on the plane was reduced to pretty much Jello!!. at 560mph.. There IS nothing to recover. Its paste.

    Research??? LOL!! Get real dude.

  • @roquefortfiles Wow cool! how do you get your recent activity to not show up on your page?...says nothing since a month ago...just tested, and sure enough, make a post and it shows up immediately...Hello Stoogeman!

  • @wolco003 And your point is? Why do all you nuts feel so damn threatened by any one else posting comments on all of this nonsense other than your little cadre of "TM" nuts?. You all act like its only you who have any damn right to say anything about this stuff. Or its only you who have a lock on everything right and factual. Anyone else is greeted with "SHILL" "Disinfo Agent". 

    I just love the sanctimonious sense of Ownership you lot have on this topic.

  • @roquefortfiles "I just love the sanctimonious sense of Ownership you lot have on this topic"

    And they're all such chickenshit little fruits, too. Anyone who catches them in their lies too often gets blocked by the candy-ass owners of these lame videos.

    Whenever a group is afraid to air the other side, it's a flat-ass guarantee they're a fraud.

  • @roquefortfiles Just asked a question...not threatened by you...(your intent?) I just find it interesting how folks who do not question 9/11...end up watching videos by those who do???? Like christians watching jewish videos...it just makes me curious...and then it would be nice if every comment I posted did not get stuck on a page with some videos of my dog...he has no politics...as for "shill" you folks always seem to have strange baggage that suggests you are not really interested in judaism.

  • @wolco003 I was raised Christian. I think its a lot of nonsense. For any rational thinking human being to be told a story that Mary was impregnated by God is a little hard to believe. Especially when the Bible was written at a time when people had no understanding what a molecule or cell was. Much of Judaism i can actually agree with. They don't pin their beliefs on a God or some airy fairy Deity. That was always the problem i had with Christianity.

  • @roquefortfiles Good to know, (careful...someone is going to call you a zionist!) but you kinda missed my point...kind of a dead horse at this point...at least you do not believe in every fairy tale...deep down you know at least some if the Official story is BS...this calls into question the whole thing. Look into the 1500 Architects and Engineers that say physics does not lie, and how non symetrical office fires brought a steel and concrete (bldg 7) down symetrically (no plane, limited debris)

  • @wolco003 "1500 Architects and Engineers that say physics does not lie"

    But YOU lie. That is just a list on a website of people who want a "new investigation." And only a tiny fraction of them are either architects or engineers. You should at least READ what it says on that site.

    And thus far none of these clowns has been able to articulate his theory on paper in any legitimate engineering publication. Calling your own website a "peer-reviewed journal" doesn't make it so.

  • @wolco003 "how folks who do not question 9/11...end up watching videos by those who do"

    For the same reason people used to go to circus sideshows -- to point and laugh.

  • @BlazingFerret Only degenerate human beings point and laugh...it is a marker of a sociopath...one who has no conscience or empathy...the very things that separate us from apes. Hello Stoogeman.

  • @wolco003 "the very things that separate us from apes"

    Nothing separates Truthies from the apes, except that the apes at least show basic reasoning skills.

  • @blueshark69 This is pretty cool...everytime somebody says something like this, I click on the guys name and voila! everydamn comment speaks volumes about who you are...Hello Stoogeman! Keep 'em coming...human evolution is clearly on a continuum!

  • @roquefortfiles

    Why are all you jackasses so threatened that you have to resort to calling anyone who disagrees, regardless of reason, with the official story " Nuts" ? A criminal court must whittle down the resulting evidence in any case to achieve the smallest aspect of a shadow of doubt, for if there is any doubt, there must be no doubt. There are holes galore in the official story, but I'm a nut cuz I smell a rat

  • @JJTheJunkMan1 Who's threatened?? Where is the doubt? I honestly don't understand what is so difficult for people to process about this event. If you got the data recorder of the plane, which the NTSB do.... Then the plane is there!!! I just don't get the degree to which people toss aside RATIONAL logic in their arguments. If there was no plane at the Pentagon.. You don't think 50 families would be screaming.. WHERE IS MY SON/Husband?

    I mean come on!! Use a little common sense.

  • @roquefortfiles : The official story supposes that a near 100 ton bomb of metal and diesel and sinew hurtles into the ground at a forty degree angle and a 180 degree invertion at 563 mph creating the total and complete catastrophic annihilation of itself, and ALL that explosive kinetic energy being exerted in milliseconds only produces a relative dimple and an equally insignificant Poof of a smoke plume as per the only existing photos used as evidence of the crash and that makes sense ??

  • As to the forty degree angle of impact, shouldn't the crest of the, dare I say, impact "crater" be sheered off and asymmetrical in the direction of said impact as opposed to what looks incredibly symmetrical in size and shape ?

  • @JJTheJunkMan1 Dude. take a physics class!!. The answer to your question is..........YES!!

    Are you kidding me? a commercial jet hitting the ground at nearly full throttle? There would be nothing left and the people on board reduced to pretty much jello paste. Which Wally Miller even said himself. They would be scraping people up with a sponge.

    Did you see what happened in Reno? P 51? it was obliterated. Double the weight or speed and the impact is 4x more. A 767 is 350,000 Ibs.

  • @roquefortfiles The energy expended would be catastrophic to say the least. Therefore, if it did go down where and as they said it did, There'd be a "crater", not a 30 ft dimple. Flight 103 blew apart mid-air, impacting over several seperate sites. "Partial" fuselage impact at somewhat less than the speed of #93 caused an impact crater 155 ft x 750 cubic yds in volume, in addition to "vaporizing" not only several homes, but also their foundations and damaging 21 other homes beyond repair

  • The Shanksville site, regardless of shredded metal being present or not, does not fit with what should have been the strength of the impact. You cannot claim the strength of impact that basically vaporized the plane and all occupancy and then have it result in a uniform, symmetrical 30+ ft dimple even though the plane supposedly nosed into the ground ( per FFA investigation ) at 40 degrees. There'd be a huge crater missing a significantly obvious portion of it's crest in the direction of impact.

  • As to the supposed "wing scars ", the plane would have to impact at almost dead 90 degrees with far less kinetic energy behind it to leave marks that perfectly preserved, also negating the assumed energy expelled at impact

  • @JJTheJunkMan1 There is a crater, with a wing outline. Its hitting the ground.. a fairly immovable object. The plane is going to telescope. Which it did.

    Pan Am 103 was a Boeing 747 with a wingspan of nearly 200 ft and a significantly larger body/mass. A 767 has a wingspan of about 124 ft. A 747 is 800,000 pounds. A 767 is less than half that.

    Force is the proportional square of the velocity. Double the weight and the impact is not double.. its 4X more.

    Starting to get it?

  • they came out with that movie of the passengers fighting back and crashing the plane instead of hitting its target...ya..bologna

  • "Sheep"

    A step upward for the Truthies, when they graduate from the inflatable sex dolls.

  • @Poser. yes. ignore us. because you have no need for the scientific method, or any of that other fancy learnins!

    The truth is ALREADY out. Youre a bootlicking Alqada supporter, spreading enemy propaganda in time of war.

    Explain yourself. Defend yourself.

    PS, dont use terms you dont understand. Like "cognitive dissonance." Youre just parroting the retard Griffin. you think it makes you sound smart. But to the educated, its just more confirmation of your utter ignorance. =]

  • @Daddyo930 AMEN!!!!

  • Well, shit. I hate to miss any of this sparkling scientific comment, but I really need to attend a meeting of the secret cabal that is covering up for the government plot.

    The aliens & Freemasons really depend on me bringing donuts to the Saturday meetings.

  • This video is an obvious "donut shop" for the NSA trolls to gather.....and try desperately to revive and defend the DEAD OFFICIAL STORY OF 9/11.....LOL... I love seeing these human shells scrambling for any crumb of propaganda they can lick off of the floor.......only to try and regurigtate it in the faces of informed commentors! LOL

  • @apatriotofusa "in the faces of informed commentors"

    Maybe we'd be as informed as you are if you'd tell us more about these flying aliens and ultra-sophisticated "orbs."

    Are they related to those reptilian alien shapeshifters that the Truthers claim have taken over the UN and the Trilateral Commission?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  • Can someone please explaine to the defunkers what the scientific method is. I will. You form a hypothesis. You test it. You form conclusions. You then test the conclusions. Peer reviewed then verified. NIST won't comply with the scientific method. Therefore everything they say is suspect because it can't be verified with the scientific method that the debunkers just hate. They won't even acknowledge the scientific method or it's existance.

  • @Poser930. We already KNOW what it is.

    Someone needs to explain to the Kooks that the scientific methed is not "Im too stupid to understand it, so that means I can pretend its a controlled demolition!"

    Kooks FAIL the scientific method. Theyve never ONCE passed a legit review. =]

  • @EdgemanLL2 "Kooks FAIL the scientific method"

    You mean you don't consider apatriotofusa's stories about thousands of orbs and UAVs floating around the WTC a legitimate area of scientific research?

    As Truthy evidence goes, it's pretty persuasive. Just like his "flying aliens" video on his home channel. Now there's real science. Can't wait for the Bentham Journal articles on it.

  • "The Truthy Movement ... like a cult, but without the fun stuff like animal sacrifice or sex with underage girls"

    I refuse to join until they upgrade.

    No Truthy has ever had sex with a girl that didn't have an air valve on her back.

  • @MsgtSpook LMAO!!!

    No Truthy has ever had sex with a girl that didn't have an air valve on her back.!!!

  • @MsgtSpook why is it that we can say credible things and all you guys say is stupid shit about inflatible dolls which have no relevance to anything what so ever and were the stupid ones... i bet you get a hard on from getting likes on youtube. congrats man, your mother will probably be proud. give yourself a pat on the back

  • @MsgtSpook hey....thats not an airvalve on your wifes back, genius....and im having it removed....im also thinking about getting her a tramp stamp so i can have some reading material....

    she gets boring after a few hours....

  • "the millions that believe the same thing i do"

    So why can't you lame Truthie fucks even gather a crowd larger than 8 or 9 people anymore, even when Alex Jones provides free transportation?

    The Truthy movement is so dead that it only exists on Youtube anymore.

  • "I'm sorry I am in the presence of a genius"

    That probably happens a lot to you if you really believe that horseshit about no 757 engine parts being found at the Pentagon.

    Even an illiterate ghetto monkey like you should be able to compare the photos to Boeing diagrams.

  • Use your brains people......MINUTES after 9/11, Bush invoked the "National no fly Zone" thru the FAA and ALL flights, whever they were, were required to LAND. It was complete CHAOS! There would be no more perfect COVER to arrange the "disappearance" of 4 airliners! Of course, that means that the airlines themselves were also involved with the Government in staging 9/11......The most elaborate HOAX in the dark history of this Government! False flag events have become their Modus Operandi......

  • @apatriotofusa "perfect COVER to arrange the "disappearance" of 4 airliners!"

    So your brilliant Truthie breakthrough is that they hid four planeloads of passengers somewhere, and sent four OTHER planeloads of passengers in to hit bldgs instead.

    Did your momma do a lot of drugs when she was turning tricks with those Mongoloids and Polacks?

  • @MsgtSpook The passengers were killed. Do you really think a government so evil as to PREMEDITATIVELY MURDER over 2000 people would flinch at exterminating a few more? Grow up and face the ugly reality of government false flag operations! Want more examples? The Maine The Lusitania Pearl Harbor Gulf of Tonkin Oklahoma City London 7/7 1st WTC bomb Marine barracks bomb 9/11 and assorted staged incidents thereafter, like the underwear bomb, shoe bomb, Times Sq non-bomb, etc., etc, etc
  • @apatriotofusa "Want more examples? The Maine The Lusitania Pearl Harbor Gulf of Tonkin Oklahoma City London 7/7 1st WTC bomb Marine barracks bomb"

    Yeah, everything in the world is a gigantic government conspiracy, so sophisticated that it can only be uncovered by a pack of uneducated teenage twats on Youtube, who never took a science class in their short, grubby little lives.

  • @MsgtSpook Careful, your magnificent ignorance is showing......you are a perfect example of how the owners of this planet want you to be......uninformed, propagandized, mind-controlled and obediant. You cannot accept the truth because it conflicts with your PROGRAMMING.......or else you are another government troll, trying DESPERATELY to prop up the RIDICULOUS Govt LIES of 9/11.........

  • @MsgtSpook Also, by the way, there were NO planes on 9/11.....but there were HUNDREDS of ultra-sophisticated orbs and UAV's present at the WTC and the Pentagon. But of course, you wouldn't know about any of that either. Go back to sleep inside your "matrix" pod........the real world is obviously too much for you to handle. I get so tired of cluless sheep............

  • @apatriotofusa "there were HUNDREDS of ultra-sophisticated orbs and UAV's present at the WTC and the Pentagon"

    Yeah, invisible ones, protected by a Klingon cloaking device - right, kid?

    You no-planer whackjobs are the most entertaining of the Truth Fairies, right up there with the alien shapeshifter and UFO freaks.

    You probably think "V for Vengeance" was a documentary, too ... right?

    ROFLMAO. Just keep drinking the Kool-ade.

  • @MsgtSpook Obviously, you are mentally ill-equipped to carry on a rational conversation. You resort to vulgar name-calling, derision, and propaganda to try to defend your position. Much like the State-controlled Lamestream Media. My conclusion is that you are either the most brainwashed sheep I have ever encountered, or you are a traitorous troll, working for one of the Fascist Alphabet Agencies of our now-Fascist Federal Government. In either case, you are not worth any more of my time.........

  • @apatriotofusa "you are mentally ill-equipped to carry on a rational conversation"

    And this coming from some baboon who thinks there were invisible "orbs" and shit flying around all over the Pentagon that day.

    Invisible ones, too, that nobody saw.

    Keep listening to all those little voices in your head, boy.

  • @blueshark69 Then how about something simple then? NIST will not release their data concerning the computer simulation of the building collapse. They also did not release the data generated in the engineering reports generated about the building collapses of 1, 2 and 7. Can we at least agree as freedom loving americans that NIST should release all data and that it should not be kept secret?

  • @Daddyo930 "NIST should release all data"

    Who the fuck says so? You got some hidden place in the Bill of Rights that says every dirtbag cocksucker in the world has a right to everything the government has?

    Funny how no structural engineers in the world think this is necessary, but a tiny pack of illiterate teenagers on Youtube think it's some smoking gun....

    Ten years & you punks haven't grown up yet.

  • @blueshark69 People who have no basis for their arguments, often resort to infantile name-calling and derision. The fact that you are unaware of the ultra-sophisticated technology used against the American people on 9/11 is no surprise. You and those like you are too propagandized and mind-controlled to even begin to realize that America is now 1936 Nazi Germany, but with the Orwellian Gestapo Control Grid of 21st technology microchips. You don't have a clue what's going on.

  • @apatriotofusa "you are unaware of the ultra-sophisticated technology used"

    Oh, PLEASE PLEASE tell us about those invisible "orbs" and UAVs that were floating around the WTC that day.

    The "flying alien" video you posted give us an idea of how completely mind-fucked you are, but we could really use some comic relief here.

    We really want to hear more about those floating orbs.