Cromartie Versus Agent Ellison and the FBI

[Fbiguy]

I was expecting Cromartie to have much more tissue damaged. Also, anyone notice that Charlie Dixon the paramedic looks kinda like Jack Sheperd from Lost? I luv this scene. But Arnold wuld do it cooler and better than Cromartie.

[WeednBone]

@Fbiguy Who knows what kind of damage he has underneath his clothing. I don't think he looks like Jack at all. He looks eerily like Ryan O'Reilly from Oz, though.

Arnold's got nothing on Dillahunt. In my humble opinion Schwarzenegger could've only upstaged him in his early years.

[oktoberK]

@WeednBone Ya, I bet Ryan would say its like looking in mirror. lol

[mark13hazard]

Wait a sec who's cromartie? I thought the guy's name was John Henry

[WeednBone]

@mark13hazard I dont want to spoil things for you by explaining. If you're not interested in seeing how Cromartie becomes John Henry, please say so and I'll explain.

[ClaRissaBlanca]

so EPIC scene :)

[AvEryBadApPLe]

this vid is jammed packed with some of the best bronze medalist diving ever seen on network television.

[egg64]

You'd think Fox would've learned their lessons from cancelling Family Guy.

[lewisner]

So if you are a SWAT guy and one of your buddies is killed you simply keep charging in until everyone is dead?

[WeednBone]

It isn't about that. Would you expect a guy to keep on standing after two or three headshots? Remember, this is a world in which people think Sarah Connor is either crazy and/or high as a kyte all the time.

[OLDSCHOOLHHSEX]

@WeednBone Try explaining that again...Anybody who has seen SCARFACE seen where the guy was so LOADED with cocaine,he had to be pumped so full of lead just to put him down,The autopsy probably couldve extracted enough LEAD out of him to make 1 Large truck battery(and 1 truck battery can get pretty HUGE!)

[WeednBone]

@OLDSCHOOLHHSEX lol - that was Tony Montana. He's not human. And even if he is, he's a movie human. Normal rules usually don't apply to movies.

[OLDSCHOOLHHSEX]

@WeednBone U should see how normal rules dont apply to movie stunt car DOUBLES*They do apply but only once-Cause after shot is taken,vehicle is ALWAYS TOTALED >=( People have seen that happen most often as that famous DUKES OF HAZZARD 69 CHARGER Jump Scenes* Looks great as vehicle launches,but watch how for a split secont film is stopped & restarted when wrecked vehicles is switched out-U would be interrest on the book telling exactly how many 69 dodge chargers got totaled for all those years

[WeednBone]

@OLDSCHOOLHHSEX I don't think you get my point.

[OLDSCHOOLHHSEX]

@WeednBone Ah know what U was trying to say,I was just Ad-Libbing teaseing with U-Of COURSE Normal rules dont apply to movies-If what passes for some of our"NORMAL" activities got placed in the Script-to-TV or movie screen,Where would be the Entertainment CHALLENGE be IN THAT?-Most likely where the "Art imitates LIFE* statement came from

[Hoot1SFD]

Ellison was wearing the same heavy body armor (NIJ Level IIIA) as the rest of the agents, so even a point-blank pistol round should be stopped, unless Cromartie had armor-piercing rounds.

[omareiden]

FOX 25 were do u live dude? were i live its FOX 5 i live in texas

[brightonhamster]

whats the song

[WeednBone]

When the man comes around by Johnny Cash.

[Kryptonian250]

I liked Sarah's voice over but why was innocence lost in this scene?

[WeednBone]

@Kryptonian250 I think because of the female colleague of Ellison. Not really sure though.

[JordanSayz]

@Kryptonian250 represented ellison's entry to a much more dangerous and crazy world than the one he was accustomed to, and it forced him to call his faith into question

[sandblader]

@Kryptonian250

The innocent nature of both Ellison, and ummm... Whats his name? The EMT. They lost the innocent nature of thinking Sarah was crazy. Upon seeing something like that, you kinda think.

[bristolrocks112]

i laughed at the raining swats

[DocJoshe]

3:35 why dosen't he kill him

[LamonicBomb]

he saw a use for him. thats all. otherwise, he'd be deader than dead.

[DorianMichaelsIII]

@DocJoshe Probably because Ellison posed no immediate threat to him at the moment whatsoever (due to him reloading his pistol); so Cromartie let him live. Not like he'd been a threat to Cromartie WITH his pistol readied, but still, a thought.

[hutzus]

One of the best scenes in this season

[conor12231]

2:21 LOL its raining SWAT

[conor12231]

Does it not belong to virgin 1

[ucemujeproblem]

What model of Terminator is Cameron?

[darklord61]

TOK715 it what said on terminator wikipedia but it unclear if that the real model name for her

[WeednBone]

It was intentional. Do not hate it before you have seen it. Oh, and I am deleting your last post.

[WeednBone]

This is not a parody. It is from the show "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles".

[GN522Chinami]

Cromartie is the best :)

He just punch the FBI units to pool(or used guns )

anyone know what is the name of the song used in this scene?

[WeednBone]

Johnny Cash - When the man comes around

[GN522Chinami]

Thank you sir

I love this song too

[WeednBone]

No thanks. A good question is a question you do not know the answer to - so thank you for asking a good question.

[Odi2883]

did you get the name of this song????? i`m tired to serch but i don`t find it!!!!!!

[fenix4500]

Very surprised someone doesnt know this song,

Its Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around

[GN522Chinami]

When the man comes around

[Maaiku]

This scene is epic. Could just as well have been a movie.

[venomousbroly]

he dont't kill elison because he was a link to the conors

[ToniMontana4000]

why he don`t kill elison

[BillHaverchuk]

In a later episode, Cromartie will tell Ellison that he thinks Ellison will have an important role in the creation of Skynet.

[kellysmash99]

"Skynet doesn't believe in you like I do"

"What do you believe...."

"You will lead me to the Connors"

[nickmitsialis]

Kellysmash: Don't forget the rest of the exchange:

Ellison:"I'll never help you"

Cromartie: "We'll see..."

[RedheadMetalC]

this scene was, horrofying, terminator just punch

f.b.i units to pool, ultra violence.

[ShiekUrBooty]

Sure.

[iNFAMOUSxHAVOC]

One the best scenes of the whole show, I was amazed by the filming of it

[WeednBone]

Too true.

[runnmd]

That is the music from the show, moron. I think he didn't kill him simply because he wasn't a threat.

[WeednBone]

Thank you for your reply. I missed that one.

[runnmd]

NP, thanks for the video.

[Roguemember]

Why do idiots have to put their own choice of music to movie scenes or any other media?

Thanks for ruining a great scene from a great show moron.

[gutsdozer]

Haha...so you think a Youtube user put a song over a scene from a TV show, and then dubbed back in the sound effects from the show, and then mixed down the volume of the song when there was dialogue in the scene? Sure, happens all the time.

[WeednBone]

Also... I didn't wanna say anything... but... I'm not the one here posting vids of some wrestling game.

[Roguemember]

Snob. Before you rush to judgment about my interests, I'm studying to become an accountant.

I also modded that game myself as I like to design my own video games from existing ones.

[WeednBone]

You're studying to be an accountant. Great. I got a masters degree on marketing. What's your point?

[Roguemember]

You were implying that I'm some sort loser.Ok, sorry for being wrong about the video editing thing.

[WeednBone]

Well, aren't you for just assuming stuff? You should know better.

[WeednBone]

If I made you feel like crap, I'm sorry. I am, however, not sorry for defending anything connected with the Sarah Connor Chronicles. You're always welcome in my camp, because I can see you're kinda into this scene.

[Porter621]

whats this song?

[WeednBone]

When the man comes around by Johnny Cash

[AustriaDictator]

i think the music fit perfect to the scene

[Mastadon316]

lmfaooooooooooooo

[Beavisweale]

such a good choice of tune.....

[yourgravedigger]

wtf is that weapon cromartie has?

[WeednBone]

The weapon Cromartie has is called Cromartie.

[judo50]

the pistol is a glock 22 or 23 the model looks the same. The submachine gun is an mp5 or ump45 cant tell with such a quick glimpse he throws away both weapons so probably they were from the cops. so glock 22 and mp5

[Termin8Anim8]

Great Cinematography and story telling.

[platypusguineapig]

wats the songs name

[zeeroj]

Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around

[stormybryant]

I'm gonna miss old Cromartie. Yeah he was bad but he was funny in his own way.

[planetgas]

This is the best SF show since the X-Files. Some episodes are stupid but for the most part the show is EXCELLENT!!!!

[dyingfly]

Think it was a good way to shoot the massacre. They could have just filmed an all action shoot out - but Cromartie would have just blown them all away anyway - this way it just emphasises how futile the siege against him was. I like the way Cromartie wears a black shirt - maybe a hommage to Johnny Cash himself? - the Man in Black

[WeednBone]

I agree - this was a good way. Never thought of the Man in Black thing... have you seen the latest episode?!?

[07ugama]

Oh my bad I meant 3:19

[WeednBone]

It's one of the standard TSCC sounds. That's all I know.

[07ugama]

Hey whats that song that plays at 2:19

[daveshow2]

Wow how shite, he manages to get all the FBI men into the swimming pool and ruin any credibility the scene had.

[WeednBone]

Dude, explain.

[daveshow2]

I think the fact that they all(bar 3?) land in the pool and you don't see any of them getting shot just makes for a cartoonish/comedy effect rather than a shocking scene.

[Legionnaire18]

Take into consideration that Cromartie probably had no weapons. So the best tactic was probably blunt assault(punch the HELL out of them). They just happened to mostly land in the pool.

[AFGalwayz]

i think he crushed them and discarded them like a kid throwing broken toys away lol

[taker39668]

Lol that true. Also Ellison need to avenge his boys. This scene was epic.

[DemiseOTK]

lol at 1:06 did anyone notice Cromartie had chinese take out lol I thot terminators dont eat

[WeednBone]

They don't. It was George Lazlos food - you know, the guy whose face he took.

[tonyserporno]

kill kill.

[madsmile]

epic scene

[elmaskks]

He doesnt´t kill him because that is not Comartie´s mission. I mean, he kills every "enemy", that is, the agents that were attacking him, probably Ellison gets scared and he doesn´t do anything... A terminator cannot kill everything that moves....Don´t you think?

[WeednBone]

The rumors: Ellison quits the FBI and joins this company (led by that Garbage singer) that will complete "The Turk", thus aiding in the coming of Judgment Day.

[gromann]

Im not sure if thats the case, imo it seems more likely that as with usual once your opponent relents theyre no longer of concern if theyre not a directive, kind of like the predator in the movies, no gun, no threat, no need

[AFGalwayz]

no the terminators kill all the witnesses i think his objective from skynet was not to kill ellison

[DemiseOTK]

lol whats with black people starting judgment day

[gromann]

Hell ya never know, bots may just hate the whiteys

[MisterWeed]

No there is definitely a reason beyond that for him sparing Ellison. Normally all witnesses are to be killed.

[bodieblu]

He was spared because Cromartie knows Ellison will lead him to Sarah. Listen to the voice overs on the dvd's. Super interesting.

[DemiseOTK]

Arnie did he killed everybody so did Patrick

[WeednBone]

The both o' ya - STFU about the race thing, okay? Instead, let's celebrate the fact that season 2 definitely has 22 episodes.

[Dflowen]

Christian Bale and Arnold will fight each other in season 2 LOL

[terminator7792]

well didnt cramartie say he needed elison for somthing ?

[WeednBone]

Not as far as I know.

[terminator7792]

he didnt kill ellison because he needed him and sarah remember he was looking for him and sarah

[WeednBone]

Ellison was looking for Cromartie because some guy was seen on a sec cam at a murder scene matching the person who's face was stolen by the Terminator.

[bobbyburner]

Why the hell didnt he kill Ellison!! No way he would've let just him live! Unless its because he too is looking for Sarah??? He knows he has the Conner files

[conquerer1729]

cromartie let ellison live becuz he was also lookin 4 sarah so cromartie can continu tracking sarah & john down for ellison's work

[bobbyburner]

This makes sense, god I cant wait for season 2, FOX better not cancel this show and leave on Are you smarter than a fifth grader jesus christ! :P

[3L24]

or Ellison chould have a part ot play in skynets plan who knows lets watch and find out shall we

[terminator7792]

can som1 tell me

did they make a episode after this 1

i wanna c wht happens after this som1 tell me did they or r they going to at all ?

[playloud90278]

@terminator7792

If you want to see what happens next, you have to tune in to the Season 2 premier on Sept 8th.

[WeednBone]

GTF outta here!!!

[FreshPez]

The big question is how does Ellison avoid getting tossed in jail or the loony bin.

"How many bad guys?"

"Just one."

"uhhhhhh..."

[playloud90278]

@FreshPez

Why would he get thrown in jail? He didn't do anything illegal. He brought a whole SWAT team with him. How could anybody blame HIM for their deaths? They had enough force to handle any situation (with the exception of a Terminator).

[HaloLovingFanatic]

Why didnt it shoot at him?!!! Stupid cliffhangers!! Cant wait for season 2

[Barricade]

1. Directly ends up helping (if not knowing) in the creation of Skynet in someway.

2. Indirectly helps the creation of Skynet. 1st T-800's chip DID result in the tech advances, so perhaps something happens from evidence he collects or something...

[WeednBone]

Maybe he has the a chip similar to Camerons, which makes me think he is capable of learning emotions (compassion, etc.)

[errant3]

what's the name's song??? plase thanks

[WeednBone]

"When the man comes around" by Johnny Cash.

[ShaDHP23]

Now, isn't that nice. >:)

[dass246]

COMO SE LLAMA LA CANCION DE FONDO??

[ShaDHP23]

QUE? En Ingles.

[joeyvader]

This was the coolest scene in the series...I love the way the camera pans around him at the computer, as he looks up and notices someone is coming....gold!

[canislupusnova]

I bet ellison has yet to play a part in the creation of skynet, which is why he's still breathing.

[joeyvader]

yeahhh there has to ba a reason why he didn't fire..Is Reese's brother a Terminator...working with Cameron covertly...? He has done some cold Terminatory shit...could he be...?

[crazyrabbits]

I like that you can hear Ellison shouting "Take cover!" and "Fall back!" as the scene plays. Right before it cuts to the shot from behind Cromartie, you can hear Ellison yell, "Greta!" I guess the scream from right before that was from her.

[cookie5455]

shit i markde that guy/gal as spam!!!i didnt mean to!!!!to youtube to talk to me!!

[afrosamurai22]

damn love that scene... only thing I want to know is how you would explain something like that to your superiors. :P

[zod933]

I feel sorry for the guy that trained them all. Imagine having that person's superior come to him and say "Remember all those agents you trained? Yeah they all got taken down by one guy. Real nice work. No raise for you this year."

[greenscout]

For some weird reason I really feel sorry for that female FBI agent who gets killed.

[pansyhater]

Human nature/ compassion? Sympathy that she never had a chance? xD

[greenscout]

I honestly don't know, I guess it has something to do with the look in her eyes, which suggested she knew or was afraid she as gonna die.

[tonyserporno]

it would have been cooler if they messed him up more.

[DJSparkyA]

yeah, the music makes the scene ^^

[FVSUWildcat]

Cromartie likes Chinese food, or was that left over from the previous tenant?

[zod933]

I wondered about that too. But if you think about it that human flesh around him is still living tissue and that tissue would need nourishment otherwise it would die and fall off. I can only guess that the Terminators have some sort of food processor that would convert the food they eat to nourishment for their flesh covering.

[FVSUWildcat]

That's very interesting. I forgot about the living flesh concept for the Terminators.

[ripbxrinh3]

I think that Terminators don't need food because they have "blood" inside them. Maybe that blood converts theri power to make cells which keep the skin alive.

[cwmagain101]

There was a scene shot where the terminator ate a chocolate bar, wrapper and all, to sustain his 'skin'. It has been cut because the testing audience didn't like the terminator eating chocolate. Also keep in mind that it's actually alive, his skin, as said in the first movie. "Cyborg", not robot.

[FVSUWildcat]

The part of the scene when you hear Ellison screaming "Fall back!" but there is still shooting and the bodies keep hitting the water is what made the scene for me. This scene was even better than the original "I'll be back" police station scene from the 1st Terminator.

[greenscout]

Don't be silly. As good as this scene is and as much as I love it, it's Johnny Cash that's really doing all the work. Scenes in both T1 and T2 were much harder to achieve, and the result shows.

[FVSUWildcat]

I completely agree with you, I wasn't being silly. The scene was gritty, and the Man in Black took it to a whole other level way beyond...

[RicardoDiaz]

If you take away the great and appropiate song it all looks rather simple and poorly shot...

[greenscout]

Yes, a very easy shoot. All the actors had to do was dive in the pool, and all the editors had to do was slow it down.

I think the directors/producers had a big problems in that this was a big scene for the series (probably the biggest) and it was always gonna get benchmarked against the scenes in T1 & T2 where police were involved. They knew they couldn't match what the films did so instead they did the next best thing, not show the action and leave it to the viewers imagination.

[nickmitsialis]

Exactly; From T1 & T2 we already know what will happen when the police confront a T-800--TV probably doesn't have the budget to recreate something like that-not to mention the 'violence on TV' bugaboo...so they found a REALLY creative way of presenting an op that went TOTALLY to hell.

[WeednBone]

Hey, the shot of the fallin' cops was excellent. Look, if ya wanna some shootout, go watch Young Guns or something. Don't diss the best TV-show of the moment cos you're backin' some other show or whatever, okay? Plus: this is not a democracy!!! Meaning I will allow this negative remark to show that I won't allow any kind o' s#!t on TSCC!!!

[stormybryant]

Agreed. This was a unique way to handle the fight. We've all seen Terminators kill people, so what's the point with the same old getting-shot-in-the-face routine?

The music is amazing and the scene leaves a little mystery at the end.

[greenscout]

Were you responding to me or the other guy?

[ChrisMathers3501]

Ricardo, are you a short, fat Colombian coke baron with a mansion that looks like the one in Scarface?

Seriously, though, I disagree. I mean, personally, I'd rather see the agents getting blasted out of Cromartie's doorway and falling into the pool too, but ya gotta remember, this was the last episode before the writer strike almost had the show pushing up daisies and they did pretty damn good. An easy shoot to be sure but the music and imagery really speaks for itself.

[HirosaysYATTA]

A) They had to find some way to make this quite different from the shootouts and fights that we see every week on this show.

B) Damn pretty imagery.

C) I really like the use of that style of song. They're not trying to play up the tension, it really gives the idea that this is child's play for Chromartie and the FBI had no chance.

D) I think underwater scenes actually take quite a while to shoot. They have to train the actors to move underwater and set them up to do something exactly right...

[benzaibang]

pool day in cs....... pwned cts

[TitanHawk1]

the best part is when the car doors open

and i wish u could buy there fbi suits, some fake guns and get aload of friend and make a movie like this

[TitanHawk1]

the best part is when the car doors open

and i wish u could buy there fbi suits, some fake guns and get aload of friend and make a movie like this

[TitanHawk1]

the best part is when the car doors open

and i wish u could buy there fbi suits, some fake guns and get aload of friend and make a movie like this

[glen871]

Thanks for posting the complete scene. They filmed this perfectly, especially the music.

[WeednBone]

I'm just wondering why Cromartie let Ellison live - he could've killed him when Ellison visited him, too...

[wolris]

I'm thinking Cromartie knows something the audience doesn't, like Agent Ellison is useful to Skynet in the future or something.

But I noticed that, too.

[UmbrellaCorp1]

He let Ellison live because it wasn't his mission.

[Props2u]

These advanced terminators dont up the body count if theres not a threat to them. When Cro entered the bank all the SWAT guys had their weapons down and shock on their faces, and his HUD read "No Threat" and we walked inside. Same here when Ellison didnt fire and lowered his gun and head, ill bet it said the same thing.

Plus he knows Ellison is on the Connor case and may need him someday.

[Props2u]

I meant "HE" walked inside, not we.

[salvinorum]

Gives me goosebumps everytime I watch it. Cromartie will have to change appearance or keep a low profile now tho. While lightly armed FBI teams are suicide missions, Ellison will not confront him without .50 calibre machine guns at the least next time, and those alone would stop, if not kill him, and why stop with .50s?

[gs2501sc]

OWNAGE. :)

[bchan003]

that's a understatement

[psychogranddad]

they should have shot cromartie in the eyes.

[pansyhater]

Because, you know, it's really easy to aim for the eyes with an automatic sub-machine gun while an armored titan is taking all the hits without even bothering to shrug em off. Oh yeah, I forgot the part where he's shooting at you.

[WeednBone]

Also, didn't Kyle say that old weapons (which are modern day weapons for Reese) don't work on Terminators due to the material their endoskeletons are made of?

[Barricade]

Except that in the original movie Kyle made a pipebomb that blew the original T-800 in half. Its more a question of firepower. Pistols or assault rifles won't do jack. A bullet from a .50cal however probably would seriously get its attention and at least start denting the armor and the kinetic impact alone would send it flying.

[RobinHood3000]

I doubt it would send it FLYING. A .50 cal round has a lot more momentum than a pistol round, true, but a Terminator has a LOT of mass to move, and the act of denting its armor would drain a lot of the bullet's energy.

[b210436]

one of the best momments in the season!

[wolris]

I agree, that scene alone made the whole season worth it.

[cromartie117]

i love this cromartie rules wanna be a friend

song mathes