Ive always wanted to try this, but never had the hho.
im going to try with a fresnel lens: melting together silicate rich rock dust, and another metal with electric potential, if you could attatch wires at both ends, and charge it with HV whilst it's all melting & cooling, the ions are supposed to all line up in one direction only, and you have yourself a battery of sorts.
I was curious if you were willing to have a crack at it :)
The correct term is brazing. It can be done with any metals that will both liqufy in a range of temperature and one does not boil before the other liquifies. It's soldering if the metals will alloy (they are miscable). It's welding if it does both. Brazing is weaker then soldering and both are weaker then welding.
Thanks for posting your video's, step by step. I find them educational and inspiring! Now, for the few people like me, can you tell us what alloy of SS plates, the dimensions, and the content of the electrolyte? I think you said 8 plates per cell at a spacing of 0.015? One last question: What would be the effect if you added more plates per cell? As you can tell, I know very little about electricity. Thanks again and don't stand down wind from d3.
hey that wasn't me, that was the camera guy, and my God it was bad right in my face, in fact I think some of the performance of the torch can be credited to the extra methane in the air:)
Keep in mind this is not an eff. setup, but it is a middle ground between eff. of volume vs watts, and size of the setup, I am sacrificing some wasted electricity for a smaller setup size.
Elyte is 10g per gal distilled water. The spacing is made by putting electrical tape on the edges of the plates, so 2x the thickness e-tape= .015 or there abouts. more plates per cell would draw more amps, which isn't a bad thing really, but means bigger wire to handle it. more area means more conduction of the electricity. I hope that explains it a little bit.
i do hvac work and use a accetelene torch, without oxygen, it's like like steup you got but with another pipe over it, with holes on that pipe right by the tip, so it sucks oxygen with the gas.
thats not what im saying it adds extra oxygenn to the flame, just like the butane lighters that add extra air with the same setup, butane coulnt get that hot without it just like blowing a ash and wathing it light back up,just a thought maybe i'll try it.
the difference between most fuels and hho is they need oxygen to burn, and the more oxy the more they can burn and the hotter the flame you can get. On torches like that they use a venti effect of sorts to suck in o2 with increased fuel. hho has enough o2 and more actually cools it down and slows the burn because it leans out the mixture.
Nope it isn't, I work on hear say, more like hear, try, prove. Its based on some chemical calcs, followed up with a real test to find out if math acted like the real world (sometimes it doesn't). But in this case (2H+ O= H2O + heat) so with water thats what it does, extra Oxygen and Nitrogen (air) would be (2H + 2O + 8N= H2O+O+8N + Heat) and since the heat is spread out on the extra O and 8N the ave temp of everything is less.
That is out standing. I would like to know the voltage that the junction of the Cu/Al is putting out with and with out some heat put on it. Can hardly wait to get mine running, WOW.
That is awesome you guys are on to something realy big here. Next time you do Cu/Al take a mesurement of the voltage it produces with and with out some heat on it. You might get a supprize. Wow keep it up. I can hardly wait to getting mine working soon.
have you seen the video I did showing the voltage between the subject material and the torch head. Next and soon I am gonna shoot the flame into a copper pipe and see what kinda voltage, and if there are any usable amps.
Very interesting. What type of torch are you using? And what type of fuel gas?
nautn 2 years ago
hho, hydrogen derived from water. Type of torch, homemade, using a mig welding tip.
d3adp001 2 years ago
hiya d3adp001. enjoying your vids.
Ive always wanted to try this, but never had the hho.
im going to try with a fresnel lens: melting together silicate rich rock dust, and another metal with electric potential, if you could attatch wires at both ends, and charge it with HV whilst it's all melting & cooling, the ions are supposed to all line up in one direction only, and you have yourself a battery of sorts.
I was curious if you were willing to have a crack at it :)
Cheers mate
bennyglingglo 2 years ago
The correct term is brazing. It can be done with any metals that will both liqufy in a range of temperature and one does not boil before the other liquifies. It's soldering if the metals will alloy (they are miscable). It's welding if it does both. Brazing is weaker then soldering and both are weaker then welding.
RyuDarragh 2 years ago
this would be smelting
pixuma 2 years ago
Wrong
This is melting.those two will not go together
cheeseboat15 2 years ago
Thanks for posting your video's, step by step. I find them educational and inspiring! Now, for the few people like me, can you tell us what alloy of SS plates, the dimensions, and the content of the electrolyte? I think you said 8 plates per cell at a spacing of 0.015? One last question: What would be the effect if you added more plates per cell? As you can tell, I know very little about electricity. Thanks again and don't stand down wind from d3.
dosfossil 3 years ago
hey that wasn't me, that was the camera guy, and my God it was bad right in my face, in fact I think some of the performance of the torch can be credited to the extra methane in the air:)
Keep in mind this is not an eff. setup, but it is a middle ground between eff. of volume vs watts, and size of the setup, I am sacrificing some wasted electricity for a smaller setup size.
But the config is 304 SS, 20 guage, 3"x6".
8 plates per cell 4+,4- (+-+-+-+-)
d3adp001 3 years ago
Elyte is 10g per gal distilled water. The spacing is made by putting electrical tape on the edges of the plates, so 2x the thickness e-tape= .015 or there abouts. more plates per cell would draw more amps, which isn't a bad thing really, but means bigger wire to handle it. more area means more conduction of the electricity. I hope that explains it a little bit.
d3adp001 3 years ago
i do hvac work and use a accetelene torch, without oxygen, it's like like steup you got but with another pipe over it, with holes on that pipe right by the tip, so it sucks oxygen with the gas.
crob227 3 years ago
aka the turbo torch right. The difference is that this one can burn in a vacuum because it is carrying its own oxygen.
d3adp001 3 years ago
thats not what im saying it adds extra oxygenn to the flame, just like the butane lighters that add extra air with the same setup, butane coulnt get that hot without it just like blowing a ash and wathing it light back up,just a thought maybe i'll try it.
crob227 3 years ago
the difference between most fuels and hho is they need oxygen to burn, and the more oxy the more they can burn and the hotter the flame you can get. On torches like that they use a venti effect of sorts to suck in o2 with increased fuel. hho has enough o2 and more actually cools it down and slows the burn because it leans out the mixture.
d3adp001 3 years ago
thanks for that info, i didnt know that, i hope this isnt based on here say though.
crob227 3 years ago
Nope it isn't, I work on hear say, more like hear, try, prove. Its based on some chemical calcs, followed up with a real test to find out if math acted like the real world (sometimes it doesn't). But in this case (2H+ O= H2O + heat) so with water thats what it does, extra Oxygen and Nitrogen (air) would be (2H + 2O + 8N= H2O+O+8N + Heat) and since the heat is spread out on the extra O and 8N the ave temp of everything is less.
d3adp001 3 years ago
No its not, an aquarium pump thrown in the mix answers it pretty easy.
d3adp001 3 years ago
That is out standing. I would like to know the voltage that the junction of the Cu/Al is putting out with and with out some heat put on it. Can hardly wait to get mine running, WOW.
crazzieg 3 years ago
That is awesome you guys are on to something realy big here. Next time you do Cu/Al take a mesurement of the voltage it produces with and with out some heat on it. You might get a supprize. Wow keep it up. I can hardly wait to getting mine working soon.
crazzieg 3 years ago
have you seen the video I did showing the voltage between the subject material and the torch head. Next and soon I am gonna shoot the flame into a copper pipe and see what kinda voltage, and if there are any usable amps.
d3adp001 3 years ago
cool who would have thought that an hho torch would lead to the new tool time...lol
waynedavisband 3 years ago
if you seen what I do with stuff you would laugh at how true that is.
d3adp001 3 years ago
hey d3 let me ask you somtin,what do you think the performance of a jensen motor would be with that torch of yours ?
pi3573 3 years ago
Sorry the video guy has a low attention span, I think he forgets he is filming some times.
d3adp001 3 years ago